Hurling 2024

Started by seafoid, January 01, 2023, 08:24:25 PM

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Blowitupref

FT Kilkenny 1-25 Clare 1-22 so it will be a repeat of last years All Ireland final.  Some outstanding saves by both goalkeepers today.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

jcpen

How did he save that at the end there, unbelievable save.
Tomorrow is promised to no one.

joemamas

tremendous game, Q how were there only 3 mins additional time, farcical should have been 6 or 7 with all the injuries, hawk eye etc.
Who makes that decision and what is it based off.

seafoid

Quote from: imtommygunn on July 09, 2023, 02:48:39 PM
I see the top level camogiers throw it too...
Kilkenny, Cork and Galway are interchangeable.

Capt Pat

Clare kind of blew that. The gift of a goal and the wrong tactics in the first half. There is always next year for Clare with good under age players coming through.


Onthe40

Yet again probably didn't get the top performance from Tony Kelly that was needed to get them over the line. TJ Reid stood up at the right times

seafoid

Clare lost the match in the first half

Milltown Row2

Quote from: joemamas on July 09, 2023, 05:38:40 PM
tremendous game, Q how were there only 3 mins additional time, farcical should have been 6 or 7 with all the injuries, hawk eye etc.
Who makes that decision and what is it based off.

Personally I was looking at 4 or at a push five, Hawkeye would be 20/30 seconds subs 20 depending on faffing about, maybe one or two injuries seconds half?

3 was shy for sure...

Anyway on the game, it was always going to be a close encounter but the intensity the Kilkenny bring is savage and they'll need that in spades next day.

Huge difference bring Limerick will not allow the momentum to change once they are in control, today when Clare levelled they didn't push on and get the killer scores, the Cats just redoubled their efforts and took their chances.

Kilkenny left behind 5 wides, that some efficiency with the ball, especially in hurling.

The save at the end ruin my bet but that was unreal and proved to be the winner

Whistler did a fine job, couple of calls were 50/50's but nothing he could do about the 5 seconds, that's all ya get. I counted it back again and it was five seconds depending on how slow/fast you count it.

Not sure Kilkenny's bench is enough but they are there and Clare need to rethink.

Clare's goal btw was some effort, Shane wouldn't be the tallest but his fielding and strength is something else
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

clonadmad

Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 04:47:01 PM
It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals. They are so earnest. Galway have lost enough. Losing All Ireland finals is horrible.

"It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals"

Jesus you talk some rot

No county least of all Kilkenny will want to lose serial all ireland finals

They will relish the opportunity of stopping a Limerick 4 in a row

seafoid

Quote from: clonadmad on July 09, 2023, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: seafoid on July 09, 2023, 04:47:01 PM
It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals. They are so earnest. Galway have lost enough. Losing All Ireland finals is horrible.

"It's better for Kilkenny to lose serial all Ireland finals"

Jesus you talk some rot

No county least of all Kilkenny will want to lose serial all ireland finals

They will relish the opportunity of stopping a Limerick 4 in a row
Every team that wins a semi is motivated to win  the final. Kilkenny will lose again .

marty34

Quote from: BuzzCagney on July 09, 2023, 04:58:07 PM
A lof Kilkenny support gone home at half time. An awful shower of people.

What?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: marty34 on July 09, 2023, 07:36:21 PM
Quote from: BuzzCagney on July 09, 2023, 04:58:07 PM
A lof Kilkenny support gone home at half time. An awful shower of people.

What?

Well based on that Clare supporter beating up a girl in Hill 16 I'm not surprised
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Kidder81

Rodgers had the ball in his hand on 5 seconds to take his shot, ref should have let it play out for the 5 seconds. Bad call

Should it not have been a black card penalty for the free awarded on Eoin Cody when he cut in along the end line ? As opposed to a yellow card


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Kidder81 on July 09, 2023, 08:27:38 PM
Rodgers had the ball in his hand on 5 seconds to take his shot, ref should have let it play out for the 5 seconds. Bad call

Should it not have been a black card penalty for the free awarded on Eoin Cody when he cut in along the end line ? As opposed to a yellow card

Yes 5 seconds and ref either blows or allows it to continue, he pulled it back unfortunately with hindsight he could have gave him 6 seconds

Is the ruling a goal scoring opportunity not taken because of a foul black card penalty, or yellow card for dangerous use of hurl?

Cody got shot off cleanly and not hindered so maybe the ref was correct



None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Kidder81

Brian Gavin: Clare had strong grounds for grievances with some of the officiating

It had all started so well for Colm Lyons in the second of the All-Ireland semi-finals. Giving good and clear advantage, the likes of David McInerney and Huw Lawlor were allowed the opportunity to score fine points as a result.


Seadna Morey was picked up for a yellow card on Tom Phelan but then things started to slip. Colm missed a yellow card for an over-zealous foul by Conor Fogarty on Tony Kelly, which first drew the frustration of the Clare supporters.
Adam Hogan was rightly booked for slapping across Eoin Cody but as Colm played advantage Phelan then ploughed into John Conlon and he did nothing about it. That there was no sanction beggared belief.


To make matter worse, a few minutes later he pulled back the action for a foul on Peter Duggan just as Mark Rodgers was finding the Kilkenny net. Clare fans were seething with that and rightly so but across the two games the advantage rule was being butchered with far too much time given for attacks to develop.


In that second half, Colm looked lost. Richie Hogan should have been whistled for overcarrying before Diarmuid Ryan took him out and was booked. Walter Walsh was clever in how he drew the late free from David McInerney too. Those couple of borderline placed balls scored by TJ Reid sure made Kilkenny's life easier.
There's no doubt that Clare contributed to their own downfall with the concession of the goal. Eoin Murphy's saves and Conor Fogarty's block were factors too. But Clare had strong grounds for grievances with some of the officiating. Colm, when he reviews the game, might not like some of what he sees.


Going into the weekend, I felt Saturday's game was going to be the tougher of the two to ref just because of the physical nature of the teams involved. For the first 45 minutes or so, it was a test for James Owens but he showed some great advantage in the opening half, especially for Aaron Gillane's goal and a Conor Whelan point.
Kyle Hayes rightly went into the book for a chop on Brian Concannon, who had started the game at 100 miles an hour. And James was keeping a tight rein on proceedings, refusing to let too much go.
The big talking point in the first half was the stoppage in play as Nickie Quaid took off his helmet when it appeared he was signalling about a stomach issue. This is the second time the Limerick goalkeeper has done that in this championship and you can't but think it's a tactical move.


Let's be honest, Limerick were under the pump at that stage. Six points down and their puckouts in a bit of bother, the breather was welcomed and they ended up outscoring Galway 1-18 to six points for the rest of the match. No doubt if it is repeated in the final, the referee will have to take a dim view.
James' control of the game loosened in the second half as proven by Galway not receiving a free out for a foul on Seán Linnane just before Cian Lynch put in motion the move for Gillane's second goal. In the first half, it would have been a Galway free but the refereeing style had changed.


Grappling with Seamus Flanagan on the ground and guilty of a high tackle, Jack Grealish could have been booked twice but only saw yellow once. Cathal O'Neill was rightly carded for a wild pull late on and James had done reasonably well before the game as a contest petered out.


Having said that, and it was a trend across both matches, the amount of questionable handpasses and steps taken. It's something you almost come to expect around the end of the championship but in the league or start of the provincial championships these offences would be punished accordingly.
Onto the final on Sunday week and if GAA politics don't get in the way John Keenan should be getting ready for his first All-Ireland final. I sure hope they don't deny him this earned opportunity.