Brexit.

[armaghniac]

John Major speech, well worth a read.

http://www.johnmajorarchive.org.uk/2015-2/sir-john-majors-speech-middle-temples-treasurers-lecture-the-state-were-in/

Great article by Major, to be fair to him he was saying a lot of this pre brexit vote but wasn't listened to. Northern Ireland policy aside he was by far one of the best UK prime ministers they ever had

Yet at the time he was regarded a grey non entity, except perhaps for his fling with the egg woman. The passage of time has improved his reputation.

[johnnycool]

John Major speech, well worth a read.

http://www.johnmajorarchive.org.uk/2015-2/sir-john-majors-speech-middle-temples-treasurers-lecture-the-state-were-in/

Great article by Major, to be fair to him he was saying a lot of this pre brexit vote but wasn't listened to. Northern Ireland policy aside he was by far one of the best UK prime ministers they ever had

Yet at the time he was regarded a grey non entity, except perhaps for his fling with the egg woman. The passage of time has improved his reputation.

and in comparison with the current incumbent of 10 Downing Street Major is an intellectual heavyweight

[Real Talk]

Although its easy to have the effect of a good PM/Politician when you're not in power and your reputation is not depending on votes to win the next election ... all PM's from the Conservative party where saddled with the 'European Sceptics' within their ranks and hoe to keep them on board ... that worked until the fear of the threat of Nigel Farage eventually screwed David Cameron

[imtommygunn]

John Major speech, well worth a read.

http://www.johnmajorarchive.org.uk/2015-2/sir-john-majors-speech-middle-temples-treasurers-lecture-the-state-were-in/

Great article by Major, to be fair to him he was saying a lot of this pre brexit vote but wasn't listened to. Northern Ireland policy aside he was by far one of the best UK prime ministers they ever had

Yet at the time he was regarded a grey non entity, except perhaps for his fling with the egg woman. The passage of time has improved his reputation.

and in comparison with the current incumbent of 10 Downing Street Major is an intellectual heavyweight

The standard now seems to be appalling all round. Every one of those tories has a weaselly face on them too. I think they're just people who are basically owned by big backers. Major wasn't fantastic but he didn't seem like someone who was owned by backers etc. (Though he is a Tory so there is bound to be an element of that somewhere)

[imtommygunn]

Speculation Cummings might resign. Don't know much about it but apparently Johnson forced his press mate Lee cain out and he's no happy.

[Sportacus]

The "oven ready" crew are baling out ahead of 1 January and leaving us with their sh!t show.  Desperate.

[GJL]

Biden winning is their worst nightmare. Wheels are coming off..

[Jell 0 Biafra]

John Major speech, well worth a read.

http://www.johnmajorarchive.org.uk/2015-2/sir-john-majors-speech-middle-temples-treasurers-lecture-the-state-were-in/

Great article by Major, to be fair to him he was saying a lot of this pre brexit vote but wasn't listened to. Northern Ireland policy aside he was by far one of the best UK prime ministers they ever had

Yet at the time he was regarded a grey non entity, except perhaps for his fling with the egg woman. The passage of time has improved his reputation.

He isn't Thatcher or Johnson.  Not a high bar in fairness.

[RedHand88]

Biden winning is their worst nightmare. Wheels are coming off..

True.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1351351/brexit-news-US-trade-deal-EU-Donald-trump-US-election-2022-joe-biden-brexit-boris-johnson/amp

Its almost like they didn't account for the fact that Trump had an election first for which he was a massive underdog.

[seafoid]

https://www.ft.com/content/c7f77aa3-2640-475c-87b9-c0ef229f3ef0

He can afford to pay less attention to London and turn to Berlin and Paris in resetting the transatlantic relationship. The cost for the UK promises to be one it finds hard to bear: a slow drift to irrelevance. 

[mackers]

Maybe I'm reading too much into it but is it a coincidence that these two hard line Brexiteers jumped ship after the Biden victory? Would it be down to the fact that Biden has Johnson by the nads now and Johnson will have to broker a softer Brexit deal or forget about the Internal Markets Bill to get his trade deal with the US and these nutjobs don't want to be associated with this climbdown?

[Franko]

That's Kuenssberg fcuked then.

No more 'Downing St. source tells me....'

[armaghniac]

Cummings leaving is a nice Xmas present for sensible British people.

The Tories have realised that Covid has fecked up the economy even more than other places, whatever about 1966 on Covid the Germans won 5-0. So some reality about Brexit is needed. The planning has not been done, hence the talk now about transitional arrangements. The EU will allow transitional arrangements so that they are not blamed for chaos in January, but they will ensure that everything is done properly by March or April.

[clonadmad]

Cummings leaving is a nice Xmas present for sensible British people.

The Tories have realised that Covid has fecked up the economy even more than other places, whatever about 1966 on Covid the Germans won 5-0. So some reality about Brexit is needed. The planning has not been done, hence the talk now about transitional arrangements. The EU will allow transitional arrangements so that they are not blamed for chaos in January, but they will ensure that everything is done properly by March or April.

Johnson ruled out any transitional agreements by his government and the deadline was 15th October.

He also ruled out agreeing to any transitional agreements if they were to put forward by the EU side

Id be taking him at his word

and Out you on go on the first chime of midnight new years eve.

It shouldnt be allowed to drag on and on and on,by the British side who cant get their shite together.

[Rossfan]

Cummings gone already? Or is it some media wishful thinking.
Softer stance on the EU deal coming?