Brexit.

[Milltown Row2]

And Carrick is in South East Antrim

[JPGJOHNNYG]

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10155453593501939/

Our "fellow citizens" don't even know where the 6C are. The  "Southern Irish"  supposedly just have to "lump it" because they didn't get what they want and they can't obstruct what Britain wants. The arrogance is unbelievable. They expect everyone else to pick up the pieces and take the hit as a consequence of their stupidity.

Slightly better than the channel 4 efforts but seriously that person that just drew 2 horizontal lines across Britain needs to be put down for their own sake. How they even managed to dress themselves and make it to the high street is beyond me.

Saw it last night. Incredible. One just drew a line straight across the Midlands.

A Dub once asked me was Laois anywhere near Portlaoise. Another told me Clonmel was just outside Naas and she was a teacher.
I wouldn't be bothered about brits not knowing much about us when some of our own don't even know where places are in their own country.
How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/1129/923781-can-you-draw-the-border-with-northern-ireland/

You asked, RTE delivered.

[armaghniac]

Rumours in tomorrow's papers that the Brits are beginning to cave. Not a border in the Irish sea, you understand, but "devolving a package of powers to Northern Ireland to enable customs convergence with the Irish Republic on areas such as agriculture".
This is the minimum required, but probably not enough.

Notwithstanding sounding off by the likes of Fox, the British seem to be making a real effort to get a deal before the summit.

[seafoid]

How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?

That's easy - it's in County Down, up near Castlewellan.

an Ríocht is there somewhere too

[seafoid]

Rumours in tomorrow's papers that the Brits are beginning to cave. Not a border in the Irish sea, you understand, but "devolving a package of powers to Northern Ireland to enable customs convergence with the Irish Republic on areas such as agriculture".
This is the minimum required, but probably not enough.

Notwithstanding sounding off by the likes of Fox, the British seem to be making a real effort to get a deal before the summit.

There is a huge struggle in the Tory party between fantasists and realists. Somehow the bills have to be paid

This is much bigger than the DUP and what it might want. Things can and do fall apart.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/paisley-says-uk-should-use-fisheries-deal-to-punish-ireland-for-disgraceful-behaviour-in-negotiations-36365840.html

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/30/special-relationship-theresa-may-discovers-she-has-no-friend-in-donald-trump

There are many layers of humiliation here for May to get her head around over breakfast. Not only is it personally demeaning, it is also politically toxic.

The prospect of a successful or at least survivable Brexit is posited on a strong relationship with Washington. In that regard, May's successful rush to Washington in January to become the first foreign leader received at the Trump White House was presented as a coup.

Under EU rules, the two countries are not allowed even to start negotiating a trade deal until the UK is truly out of Europe, but the warm words and the pictures of the Trump and May holding hands at least struck an encouraging tone. The prime minister got to Washington in time to help the state department and Congress stop the president lifting sanctions on Russia, and squeezed out of him his first grudging words of support for Nato.

It has been downhill since then.

May had to tell the president off in September for speculating about a terrorist attack in London. On Wednesday she had little choice but to rebuke him for retweeting Islamophobic videos put out by the UK far right, and that earned her the acid riposte from the thin-skinned president on Wednesday night.

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So what can May do to limit the damage? She can be stern or she can try to laugh it off. But whichever mode she adopts, she will have to distance herself from Trump in the short term while sending reassuring noises that all will be fine in the long term.

All the signs suggest however, that it will not be fine.

May is in open disagreement with Trump over a major foreign policy issue, the nuclear deal with Iran, which the president would like to destroy and which the UK is anxious to salvage. To that end, May's strongest card is European solidarity. Top diplomats from the UK, Germany and France are in Washington this week to do a triple act in defence of the agreement.

The Europeans are also desperate to steer the Trump administration from the path to war with North Korea, that is being paved with the help of Trump's sound-bite bellicosity.

The irony is that it is just such European unity of purpose that May is committed to undermine. Having a US president who is so erratic and extreme that he makes disagreements with EU seem petty by comparison is a bad look for a prime minister championing Brexit.

[Farrandeelin]

How many Dubs would know where Leitrim was on the map?

That's easy - it's in County Down, up near Castlewellan.

an Ríocht is there somewhere too

As is Mayobridge

[Ronnie]

Rumours in tomorrow's papers that the Brits are beginning to cave. Not a border in the Irish sea, you understand, but "devolving a package of powers to Northern Ireland to enable customs convergence with the Irish Republic on areas such as agriculture".
This is the minimum required, but probably not enough.

Notwithstanding sounding off by the likes of Fox, the British seem to be making a real effort to get a deal before the summit.

Is this a special status that would be agreeable to the DUP?

[armaghniac]

Rumours in tomorrow's papers that the Brits are beginning to cave. Not a border in the Irish sea, you understand, but "devolving a package of powers to Northern Ireland to enable customs convergence with the Irish Republic on areas such as agriculture".
This is the minimum required, but probably not enough.

Notwithstanding sounding off by the likes of Fox, the British seem to be making a real effort to get a deal before the summit.

Is this a special status that would be agreeable to the DUP?

I'd say the DUP would find it hard to oppose the agriculture bit, as a start. And of course, once the principle is established.........

[Rossfan]

The DUPUDA want border walls, minefields etc but no doubt the business and commercial real world people will be getting to them.

[armaghniac]

Sammy does not seem happy, so some good must be taking place
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-negotiations-could-compromise-duptory-deal-sammy-wilson-36367922.html

[lenny]

Sammy does not seem happy, so some good must be taking place
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-negotiations-could-compromise-duptory-deal-sammy-wilson-36367922.html

They're threatening to bring the tory government down. The problem is that if they do they run the risk of jeremy corbyn becoming pm which wouldn't be good news for them. I think they'll be pulled into line here quite easily. This would be monumental because it is a small psychological break from the uk for the north. First step to a united ireland in many people's eyes.

[seafoid]

Sammy does not seem happy, so some good must be taking place
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-negotiations-could-compromise-duptory-deal-sammy-wilson-36367922.html

The DUP are majority Brexit wingnuts.  They are far less rational than the Tories.

[armaghniac]

Sammy does not seem happy, so some good must be taking place
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-negotiations-could-compromise-duptory-deal-sammy-wilson-36367922.html

The DUP are majority Brexit wingnuts.  They are far less rational than the Tories.

By the standards of the 17th century they are not that bad.

[Milltown Row2]

This is class! By actually supporting Brexit the DUP could bring down the Tories and a different Brexit deal for the North! Where did they get their degree in politics? 10p lucky bag