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The Munster Council could pull up Castlehaven for their behaviour in today's Munster club final, which was pretty disgraceful.

Horrendous team Castlehaven, the lack of many real challenges in Munster could hurt Crokes down the line.

What went on ?

Destiny's child, independent woman.

The car I'm driving I bought it" sounds suspiciously like " the car I'm driving, I farted"

[think]

That wasn't your original question.

To answer your second question, I think he's a smooth operator who, I'm sure, puts across various confidence tricks and visualisation techniques to players. I would imagine he's a bit of a cheerleader for the players, who become somewhat reliant on him.

Think they'd do as well without him.

Just my opinion.

He's more of a poor man's Enda McNulty / Jimmy McGuinness than a good kicking coach.

Recently moved into golf, acting as coach to Harrington. Ridiculous in my opinion. Why can't Harrington trust himself?

http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/harrington-backing-rugby-guru-to-help-kickstart-his-revival-2989262.html

That's a no to my original question I assume.

You may be right, he could in all well be a chancer. However, the fact that these guys are actively seeking him out  must mean something.
Chancers are nearly always get found out. Either he is a very talented chancer who has yet to be found out, or he maybe is good at whatever he does. However, without seeing him in action it is hard to gauge an opinion on him, which was what my original post was about.

You didn't answer my question. On what grounds do you think he is a chancer?

[one of life's chancers in my view]

Does anyone have any ideas how to kick the ball further off the ground? I can score from anywhere inside about 35 metres but I'd like to be able to get it from further out.

I would always have thought that Maurice Fitzgerald and Bryan Sheehan's techniques ( Sheehan based his on Maurice Fitz, they are from the same club) were as close to perfection as you could get.

But Cluxton kicks the ball in a very different style and has a very very good record. He cuts across the ball where Sheehan and Fitzgerald would kick the ball at a point just below the big toe. His go straight at the goal in a direct line over the balckspot where Fitz/Sheehan curl in from a point outside the black spot of the crossbar. Cluxton aims at the blackspot where Fitz/Sheehan do not.

For the Sheehan/Fitzgerald style

Head down all through (until well after you've kicked the ball. When you lift the head, as in golf, the whole kick/swing plane changes)
Kick the ball with a point on the foot just below the big toe (this will come with practice though)
Keep the same number of steps in the run up ( five is enough I think, no need for Charlie Redmond/Anthony Tohill Riverdance type run ups)
Approach the ball at about a 45 degree angle

That's a lot to be remembering!

Just keep kicking and the natural kick will find itself. It's like when you're practicing kicking off the hands after not kicking for a while.

The first few shots might be poor, then you'll kick one over. You'll try and replicate this good one and again and again. Muscle memory will then kick in and say 'here is the correct body position and foot point for kicking the ball'

I think the same principle is true of all sports. The likes of Dave Alred (an England rugby kicking coach and one of life's chancers in my view) giving advice to the likes of Kildare players like Johnny Doyle (I think this happened) is complete madness I feel.

I could give you all the techniques you like, but your body will automatically do the right techniques if you practice enough!

My fee is $100 a word!

Do you know the man? Johnny Wilk and O'Gara seem to have a high opinion of him

We aren't as bad as I was thinking a fortnight ago. How did Cookstown Doohamlet go?

That's a very bad result for St. Galls and a big step backwards.

Really hard to see them cutting the mustard outside of Antrim in the near future.

Cross are always improving and I think Kilcoo will only improve. I'm not sure there is much more in St. Galls.

That loss will be a real kick in the stones for them.

Arriving 25Min's before throw in was hardly ideal preparation-one wag commented that Galls were sufferin from jet-lag in the 1st half!

That is strange alright but they were winning at HT!!

Lads when our club played at Athletics ground couple of weeks ago unbeknown to us we weren't allowed to warm up on field and had to warm up on gravel car park. Perhaps St Galls warmed up else where and arrived at the ground after. I find it hard to believe that it's a case of rocking up, changed and play.

Well done to Warrenpoint and Kilcoo. An port mor cakewalked there semiby 13 points which leaves a huge regret for us.

However, I remember 14 or 15 years ago going to watch our seniors play Kilcoo and now they are in an Ulster Senior club final. An achievement beyond words. All you can do is say fair play to them.

Looking at the talk of Jim Mc corry in BBC page " we will bring our own game and intensity to the final" they won't be fearing cross and like a lot of teams beat before they get on the field. The whole of 09 they were underdogs and thrived with that tag. Be a difficult task but I hope they can do it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2231239/My-kidney-op-devastating-truth.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Martin Sludden down to ref the Kilcoo game. Is he the boy who took the Loup semi final in 2009?

dundrum beaten by 2-5 to 1-4!! Very unlucky

Spade a spade beat by better team on the day. Doesn't make it any easier to stomach but.
Good luck to Kilcoo and Warrenpoint, be great if an Down club could get this Ulster monkey off the County's back

[On a worrying note we are now into November and no clearer on who will join James and Jerome in the new look Down Senior set-up]

So the Down senior club season finally comes to an end tomorrow night, relatively early for us in Down as we normally manage to venture into December before we can get all our league play off games played, I actually think in the late 90's we had a division 1 league final played on Boxing day if memory serves me right, so Pol deserves credit in his debut season. On a worrying note we are now into November and no clearer on who will join James and Jerome in the new look Down Senior set-up. This is a major major concern, are there going to be trials, should players not be doing much needed weights programmes like Donegal, Armagh, Derry, Tyrone, Antrim and Monaghan all currently are, will there be a much needed clear out of dead wood and hangers on both on the field and off it? Decisions need to be made and made quickly but then again we are Down and we like to do things "the down way."

                                    o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-The Real Real Gael takes no prisoners-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

I think its going to be poacher to be honest.  A whisper a few weeks ago was that it will be announced when the club season ends and that is tomorrow night for the county gaels.  Apparently Poland is standing down in Mayobridge after this game tomorrow night and i would think Poacher would have made his intentions clear at this stage if he wanted it.  Things could get crazy on the sideline next year...

I know Stevie quite well from talking to him this is 100% untrue and he isn't the next Down coach

Lads steven mc namee down to ref a game we are involved in on sunday. what's his style?

His style is not so good but hes a good referee.

Very good 

Lads steven mc namee down to ref a game we are involved in on sunday. what's his style?

[Bford]

Hopefully I'll be smart enough to stay out of his road. To your original point, Neil cousins is a good ref in my opinion probably one of the best in Down. Also have been impressed with Ronan Barry and Ciaran brannagan Bford. Boys that have played the game know seem to know the Craic.

brannigan:are you mad. There has never been a good ref to come from hilltown

New refs on the scene this year I was specifically talking about, as in Bryansford man. The hilltown one is obviously doing something right though, he has the Ballinderry Eirrigal game, sure to be a cracker