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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2021, 09:45:08 PM »
Armagh will win an All Ireland in the next 10 years, you heard it here first!  Set the reminders for September 2031 so we can do a fact check on this statement :-)

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2021, 09:48:21 PM »
Think Cork will be contending in a few years.  They look well off at present, but with better management at Senior level it night help. They had some good underage teams

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2021, 10:07:18 PM »
so basically the same 3 or 4 teams will be winning it and people will think its great

Exactly. Amazing, isn't it!? Personally, I thought the straight knock-out for the couple of years was quite fun!

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2021, 10:48:17 PM »
You have teams that will likely win an All Ireland
Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone

Teams that should win an All Ireland
Mayo

Teams that could win an All Ireland with a fair wind
Donegal, Galway, Cork, Meath, Armagh, Monaghan

Teams that should do better
Kildare, Down, Derry

everyone else. 

If you took Dublin out then the Championship would be quite interesting.
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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2021, 11:26:33 PM »
Shared among Dublin, Kerry and Tyrone might win another 1 or two depending on the form and mood of Kerry, Dublin.

While Donegal, Galway are capable both must first bring in better quality managers. Mayo to reach 5 or 6 finals and lose them all will hardly surprise any one.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2021, 11:37:47 PM by Captain Obvious »

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2021, 09:59:28 AM »
so basically the same 3 or 4 teams will be winning it and people will think its great

Exactly. Amazing, isn't it!? Personally, I thought the straight knock-out for the couple of years was quite fun!
Tipp and Cavan having super days and great runs to the semi finals was fantastic. But led to two dead ducks of semi-finals.

This year, the championship was a little bit dull in the provincials, but the best four teams made the semis and you had two superbly entertaining games. The interesting thing is that both semi finals ended in draws, and in any other year that would have meant replays, and favourites almost always win replays. Extra time is a completely different animal where momentum and/or one moment of magic is more important. 

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2021, 10:14:48 AM »
There's a big 4 appeared in recent years which was hidden somewhat by Dublin's dominance.
No obvious candidates to make it a 5 or dislodge any of the 4.
Donegal probably 5th but never look like getting above that.
Meath has the population, tradition and a lot of AI winners in their midst but are more long term.
No matter how many good Minor or u20 teams come out of Cork hurling's pre eminence will stymie their development of a strong Senior team.
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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2021, 11:11:58 AM »
The likes of Galway, Derry, Armagh , Meath were  once in a generation teams,  where everything came right together at The same time. 

I donít think itís a case of building a decent team/squad  nowadays to achieve success. Itís about building a footballing empire, with top coaches,  up to date. training facilities, all the scientific stuff, development squads, centres of excellence etc etc. and constantly raising enough funding  to sustain all that.

Meath had two very good teams with almost completely different players not that far apart.

I donít understand Galway. They produce some great talent and that 98/01 team shouldnít have been a once in a generation team but it has been. They are producing some great players now and seem to be getting worse.

The others you are probably right on. (Galway too). Dublin, Kerry and maybe Tyrone will win this decade. Tbh canít see much else.

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2021, 11:16:02 AM »
Cork really are the sleeping giant. Reckon they might win one towards the end of the decade if they can get away from the gift from the gods (TM).

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2021, 11:35:00 AM »
Will we be back to backdoor system in football next year or is that still to be decided?

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2021, 11:42:26 AM »
Will we be back to backdoor system in football next year or is that still to be decided?
There is a Special Congress on October 23rd which will decide everything.

There are four possibilities.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40700996.html

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All-Ireland senior football championship structure - four provincial conferences of eight teams (national fixtures review committee)
All-Ireland senior football championship structure - All-Ireland SFC League.

If not enough delegates chose the eights or the league, they must choose between the old qualifier system and Super 8s (national fixtures review committee).

I am hoping for a return to the 2017 format. The new proposals are awful.

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2021, 12:02:36 PM »
Dublin, probably 3, don't think they'll dominate like the past decade
Kerry, probably 3 with the right manager
Mayo, maybe 1, still the nucleus of a decent squad there but need forwards and it needs to be soon
Galway, maybe 1, if they get their act together, should have enough good players. Have never gone as long before without at least a final appearance.
Tyrone, fairly good chance of another, but won't have a year like this again where nearly all the breaks went their way
Cork, Meath, Donegal best of the rest, with maybe Derry an outlier.
Roscommon, Kildare, Down will need something special, Monaghan's ship has sailed I fear.

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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2021, 01:42:23 PM »
The emergence of a great manager somewhere could decide which county takes 3 or 4 of the next 10 All Irelands.
All conquering managers are key to building GAA empires. 
10 years ago Jim Gavin hadn't come to prominence. If the best of the rest were in charge of Dublin, how many would they won after 2011?


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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2021, 02:02:40 PM »
Kerry 4
Tyrone 3
Dublin 2
Mayo 1

We will still be having conversations about the championship structures in 10 years..



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Re: The next 10 all Irelands
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2021, 02:28:55 PM »

This year, the championship was a little bit dull in the provincials, but the best four teams made the semis and you had two superbly entertaining games. The interesting thing is that both semi finals ended in draws, and in any other year that would have meant replays, and favourites almost always win replays. Extra time is a completely different animal where momentum and/or one moment of magic is more important.

Dull yes but the game of the championship was a provincial game between Monaghan and Armagh.

Having watched it back a 2nd time Mayo v Dublin was more intriguing than entertaining, the amount of basic errors by two top 4 teams was striking. Dublin known for their strength and conditioning looked way off it especially in extra time and were making mistakes I haven't seen from them since pre Gavin days. There is no doubt the two semi finals going to extra time instead of a replay was a help to Tyrone and Mayo.

Next year the plan is to have the county season finished by July so remains to be seen how much time in the calendar will allow for replays?



I am hoping for a return to the 2017 format. The new proposals are awful.
I'd hope so too but there is a clear push by HQ to get one of the new proposals in place and the Congress was pushed back with that in mind.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2021, 02:30:26 PM by Cunny Funt »