Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021

Started by RedHand88, July 31, 2021, 05:56:14 PM

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Who will win?

Tyrone by 1-3
Tyrone by 4+
Kerry by 1-3
Kerry by 4+

clarshack

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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2021, 10:11:57 PM
Tickets still on sale???

Every fkcer from Kerry be sorted for a ticket if they make the final though 🙄

If you as a Mayo fan have been to a provincial final and all-Ireland semi final in Croke Park then you deserve a final ticket this year imo. Same goes for the loyal Tyrone fans if they get there.

Main Street

Quote from: armaghniac on August 25, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 05:17:47 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 24, 2021, 09:35:45 PM
I always loved the Football ranking table that Laoiseman does on Boards.ie I dunno did he ever post it here too...

Anyway, here's the current top 10 with the 4 provincials and the other semi final making up the movement you see.

1|▲2|Mayo|109.70|6.14
2|▼-1|Dublin|107.58|-4.30
3|▼-1|Kerry|104.48|0.00
4|=|Tyrone|103.25|1.43
5|▲2|Donegal|93.40|0.00
6|▼-1|Galway|92.84|-1.84
7|▼-1|Monaghan|92.56|-1.43
8|=|Kildare|91.10|0.00
9|=|Meath|90.84|0.00
10|=|Cork|89.48|0.00

he hasn't done his predictions based on the model for this weekend which tend to be a lot more detailed than just "team a is above team b so they will win", I think it takes past results between the teams, current form etc also into account so it could be interested.

I was actually really shocked at how close Tyrone and Kerry are and how far Donegal are off the top 4.
Hmm Armagh should be on that list... Monaghan above Galway and close or ahead of Donegal. Armagh similar level to those 2. Kerry a whole pile further ahead of Tyrone... verry little between the big 3. Imo of course.

Armagh is at 11 on this list, only a decimal point different to Cork. They were in 7th place in July, I'm not sure why they dropped so much in a two point defeat.
10 minutes aside,  it was more than a 2 points  defeat.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 26, 2021, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 26, 2021, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 25, 2021, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 05:17:47 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 24, 2021, 09:35:45 PM
I always loved the Football ranking table that Laoiseman does on Boards.ie I dunno did he ever post it here too...

Anyway, here's the current top 10 with the 4 provincials and the other semi final making up the movement you see.

1|▲2|Mayo|109.70|6.14
2|▼-1|Dublin|107.58|-4.30
3|▼-1|Kerry|104.48|0.00
4|=|Tyrone|103.25|1.43
5|▲2|Donegal|93.40|0.00
6|▼-1|Galway|92.84|-1.84
7|▼-1|Monaghan|92.56|-1.43
8|=|Kildare|91.10|0.00
9|=|Meath|90.84|0.00
10|=|Cork|89.48|0.00

he hasn't done his predictions based on the model for this weekend which tend to be a lot more detailed than just "team a is above team b so they will win", I think it takes past results between the teams, current form etc also into account so it could be interested.

I was actually really shocked at how close Tyrone and Kerry are and how far Donegal are off the top 4.
Hmm Armagh should be on that list... Monaghan above Galway and close or ahead of Donegal. Armagh similar level to those 2. Kerry a whole pile further ahead of Tyrone... verry little between the big 3. Imo of course.

How/why should Armagh be on that list?
Because they were a brain fart away from beating Monaghan in the championship, they're definitely clear of Cork, Galway, Kildare and Meath. Drew with Donegal in the league and gave Tyrone a game after being crippled with injuries. For me there is the top 3 who are well clear with not an awful pile between any of them, then the 4 Ulster teams with not a whole pile between them (Armagh probably admittedly the weakest but not by much.) Then the rest.

Theres a top 3 in Ulster and then the rest.  Wouldn't say Armagh are clear of Cork, Galway, Kildare or Meath as I would fancy any of those teams to take Armagh in the championship.  You are also putting alot of credit on the league performances/results.
Armagh a kick of a ball away from Monaghan in a freak game. Donegal squeezed past Derry. Very little between the best teams in Ulster.
pa
Apart from 10 or so minutes when Monaghan lads were winded, Armagh were humped by Monaghan.
Tyrone 1
Monaghan 2
Donegal 3
a bit of space to
Armagh 4

You Armagh boys are just a bit too desperate and  obsessed in claiming the right to be a part of the upper tier.
See how it goes after a few years in Div 1 of the league.

yellowcard

Quote from: Main Street on August 27, 2021, 12:52:44 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 25, 2021, 10:28:42 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 05:17:47 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 24, 2021, 09:35:45 PM
I always loved the Football ranking table that Laoiseman does on Boards.ie I dunno did he ever post it here too...

Anyway, here's the current top 10 with the 4 provincials and the other semi final making up the movement you see.

1|▲2|Mayo|109.70|6.14
2|▼-1|Dublin|107.58|-4.30
3|▼-1|Kerry|104.48|0.00
4|=|Tyrone|103.25|1.43
5|▲2|Donegal|93.40|0.00
6|▼-1|Galway|92.84|-1.84
7|▼-1|Monaghan|92.56|-1.43
8|=|Kildare|91.10|0.00
9|=|Meath|90.84|0.00
10|=|Cork|89.48|0.00

he hasn't done his predictions based on the model for this weekend which tend to be a lot more detailed than just "team a is above team b so they will win", I think it takes past results between the teams, current form etc also into account so it could be interested.

I was actually really shocked at how close Tyrone and Kerry are and how far Donegal are off the top 4.
Hmm Armagh should be on that list... Monaghan above Galway and close or ahead of Donegal. Armagh similar level to those 2. Kerry a whole pile further ahead of Tyrone... verry little between the big 3. Imo of course.

Armagh is at 11 on this list, only a decimal point different to Cork. They were in 7th place in July, I'm not sure why they dropped so much in a two point defeat.
10 minutes aside,  it was more than a 2 points  defeat.
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 26, 2021, 03:58:11 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 26, 2021, 03:03:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 25, 2021, 03:37:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on August 25, 2021, 05:17:47 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 24, 2021, 09:35:45 PM
I always loved the Football ranking table that Laoiseman does on Boards.ie I dunno did he ever post it here too...

Anyway, here's the current top 10 with the 4 provincials and the other semi final making up the movement you see.

1|▲2|Mayo|109.70|6.14
2|▼-1|Dublin|107.58|-4.30
3|▼-1|Kerry|104.48|0.00
4|=|Tyrone|103.25|1.43
5|▲2|Donegal|93.40|0.00
6|▼-1|Galway|92.84|-1.84
7|▼-1|Monaghan|92.56|-1.43
8|=|Kildare|91.10|0.00
9|=|Meath|90.84|0.00
10|=|Cork|89.48|0.00

he hasn't done his predictions based on the model for this weekend which tend to be a lot more detailed than just "team a is above team b so they will win", I think it takes past results between the teams, current form etc also into account so it could be interested.

I was actually really shocked at how close Tyrone and Kerry are and how far Donegal are off the top 4.
Hmm Armagh should be on that list... Monaghan above Galway and close or ahead of Donegal. Armagh similar level to those 2. Kerry a whole pile further ahead of Tyrone... verry little between the big 3. Imo of course.

How/why should Armagh be on that list?
Because they were a brain fart away from beating Monaghan in the championship, they're definitely clear of Cork, Galway, Kildare and Meath. Drew with Donegal in the league and gave Tyrone a game after being crippled with injuries. For me there is the top 3 who are well clear with not an awful pile between any of them, then the 4 Ulster teams with not a whole pile between them (Armagh probably admittedly the weakest but not by much.) Then the rest.

Theres a top 3 in Ulster and then the rest.  Wouldn't say Armagh are clear of Cork, Galway, Kildare or Meath as I would fancy any of those teams to take Armagh in the championship.  You are also putting alot of credit on the league performances/results.
Armagh a kick of a ball away from Monaghan in a freak game. Donegal squeezed past Derry. Very little between the best teams in Ulster.
pa
Apart from 10 or so minutes when Monaghan lads were winded, Armagh were humped by Monaghan.
Tyrone 1
Monaghan 2
Donegal 3
a bit of space to
Armagh 4

You Armagh boys are just a bit too desperate and  obsessed in claiming the right to be a part of the upper tier.
See how it goes after a few years in Div 1 of the league.

A game lasts 75 plus minutes, so to pull out the 10 minutes that suits your own narrative is laughable. A bit like the Kerry manager stating after the League encounter with Tyrone that if you took out the 6 goals there was nothing between the 2 teams. Apart from stirring up a debate I doubt whether too many people care about fictional rankings, it means absolutely nothing.

Keyser soze

FS can we stop we stop with the Armagh nonsense on this thread. 

Armagh18

Quote from: Keyser soze on August 27, 2021, 10:12:00 AM
FS can we stop we stop with the Armagh nonsense on this thread.
Yep apologies my fault with the initial comment. Anyway Armagh are behind Tyrone who imo are well behind Kerry but we'll know more tomorrow. Canavan, McCurry, McShane and McKenna can all do damage but don't think Tyrone will be able to stop the Cliffords, O'Shea and Geaney.

seafoid

This match should indicate where Tyrone are in the pecking order.
Mayo, Kerry and Tyrone all suffered during the 6 in a row but it's not clear which is strongest now.

BennyCake

That ranking has as much relevance as the FIFA rankings. Belgium have been ranked No 1 for the last few years and what have they achieved? Feck all.

Mayo4Sam14

Quote from: clarshack on August 26, 2021, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2021, 10:11:57 PM
Tickets still on sale???

Every fkcer from Kerry be sorted for a ticket if they make the final though 🙄

If you as a Mayo fan have been to a provincial final and all-Ireland semi final in Croke Park then you deserve a final ticket this year imo. Same goes for the loyal Tyrone fans if they get there.

I'm hearing that both competing are only allocated 5k tickets each which is an absolute shambles
You can forget about Sean Cavanagh as far as he's a man!

Blowitupref

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 27, 2021, 11:46:22 AM
Quote from: clarshack on August 26, 2021, 10:57:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2021, 10:11:57 PM
Tickets still on sale???

Every fkcer from Kerry be sorted for a ticket if they make the final though 🙄

If you as a Mayo fan have been to a provincial final and all-Ireland semi final in Croke Park then you deserve a final ticket this year imo. Same goes for the loyal Tyrone fans if they get there.

I'm hearing that both competing are only allocated 5k tickets each which is an absolute shambles

For the 82,000 All-Ireland finals the County allocations was between 55k and 60k so one can do the maths on a 40k attendance.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Rossfan

Was told Cork and Limerick Co Boards got 11,900 each for the Hurling Final.
No idea whether that's true or not though.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Rossfan on August 27, 2021, 12:06:43 PM
Was told Cork and Limerick Co Boards got 11,900 each for the Hurling Final.
No idea whether that's true or not though.

That's the amount they got, the rest divided up with the counties, sponsors, county players and so on
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on August 27, 2021, 10:57:43 AM
That ranking has as much relevance as the FIFA rankings. Belgium have been ranked No 1 for the last few years and what have they achieved? Feck all.
Look at the odds then

BennyCake

Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2021, 02:37:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 27, 2021, 10:57:43 AM
That ranking has as much relevance as the FIFA rankings. Belgium have been ranked No 1 for the last few years and what have they achieved? Feck all.
Look at the odds then

What  odds?

the goal was on

Gavin Devlin helping Kerry with there team talk I see!!

tyrone08

Quote from: the goal was on on August 27, 2021, 05:52:43 PM
Gavin Devlin helping Kerry with there team talk I see!!

Yeah thought that was a bit strange myself. Maybe he's trying to put the pressure on the current management