Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021

Started by RedHand88, July 31, 2021, 05:56:14 PM

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Who will win?

Tyrone by 1-3
Tyrone by 4+
Kerry by 1-3
Kerry by 4+

Milltown Row2

Was there allowances for games to be rearranged at the semifinal stage rather than provincial championships?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyHarp

Quote from: Louther on August 16, 2021, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 16, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 16, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
Seems people are forgetting covid was in the camp before the final. About 5 people had it before the final and any celebrations. Its possible more ones had it during the final without knowing it. Lateral flow tests are not 100% accurate

My point exactly too.  This virus has risen its head in the squad before the so called 'celebrations'.

Then why in the holy mother of god would they go to the pub collectively and Logan has said in his interview that mid ulster had some of the highest numbers in UK and Ireland at the time.

Yes. They've won Ulster, celebrate surely. But in a pandemic, with covid on the rise, knowing it already in the squad and you've an all Ireland semi in two weeks.

Absolute stupidity of the highest level. Did they think heading to the pub would help wash it away.

It's mad how worked up people get about something that they don't even know actually happened. Who told you they all went to the pub "collectively"? You do realise pubs aren't the only places where the virus can spread?
That was never a square ball!!

Main Street

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2021, 11:39:34 PM
Was there allowances for games to be rearranged at the semifinal stage rather than provincial championships?
There were no allowances up to the semi final stage. But from the semi final stage onward the GAA central had the prerogative to make decisions according to circumstances. It would not have been practical to postpone an earlier round game due to a covid outbreak. The argument that there's one rule for the top teams  doesn't hold muster.

Louther

Quote from: BennyHarp on August 17, 2021, 12:27:36 AM
Quote from: Louther on August 16, 2021, 08:53:35 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 16, 2021, 08:41:45 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on August 16, 2021, 05:28:52 PM
Seems people are forgetting covid was in the camp before the final. About 5 people had it before the final and any celebrations. Its possible more ones had it during the final without knowing it. Lateral flow tests are not 100% accurate

My point exactly too.  This virus has risen its head in the squad before the so called 'celebrations'.

Then why in the holy mother of god would they go to the pub collectively and Logan has said in his interview that mid ulster had some of the highest numbers in UK and Ireland at the time.

Yes. They've won Ulster, celebrate surely. But in a pandemic, with covid on the rise, knowing it already in the squad and you've an all Ireland semi in two weeks.

Absolute stupidity of the highest level. Did they think heading to the pub would help wash it away.

It's mad how worked up people get about something that they don't even know actually happened. Who told you they all went to the pub "collectively"? You do realise pubs aren't the only places where the virus can spread?

Are you green? Blindingly obvious some form of celebrations took place. Logan's response to twice been asked the question was the best form of deflection you see.

If there was none, it was very easy to say so at that time and since the game it's been well know that there was a gathering, Tyrone people have even said it.

Silver hill

That was a very astute political performance by Tyrone.
They called it out, made their withdrawal statement then stood back and watched things unfold.
It was a strategic masterclass. 👏👏
However, regarding the celebrations after the Ulster final, let's put that one to bed; there was a collective gathering with drink involved.
Hindsight is 20/20 but with Covid rampant in the group and the wider community, it was reckless and ill advised at best.
Not sure what outcome was expected when they decided to celebrate as a group; an escalation was inevitable. (And the management knew well just how bad it was prior to sanctioning it, given the absentees in CP that day).

trueblue1234

It'll be interesting to hear the news from the Tyrone camp to see how players are progressing. Fingers crossed we start to hear good news coming through and as many as possible recover without longer ill effects.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

RedHand88

Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 17, 2021, 09:29:41 AM
It'll be interesting to hear the news from the Tyrone camp to see how players are progressing. Fingers crossed we start to hear good news coming through and as many as possible recover without longer ill effects.

Nearly a full house last night. I've a feeling we'll do well...

nrico2006

So is everybody back training?

As for this covid blame game, why is there such a focus on the post Ulster Final activities given that these infections are more than likely from before the Ulster Final.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

yellowcard

The precedent has now been set and it will be interesting to see if/when there are Covid outbreaks during the upcoming club championships and individual teams seek postponement, how it is dealt with by county boards. The response of the Tyrone supporters has shown the tribal nature of the GAA and in many ways that is understandable. But lets not pretend that it is anything other than looking after their own interests. The Tyrone management have played a blinder from a strategic point of view, they forced the GAA's hand and got the outcome they wanted. 

tyrone08

In regards to the sligo situation last year I was reading about it there now and for some reason sligo wouldn't say how many of their players were affected by it. Surely that had to go against them. If there 4 or 5 players affected by tit then then game should have gone on if over half the panel were affected as in tyrones case then they should have gotten a reschedule.

Armamike

31 counties against Tyrone in a big game.  A bit like the old days.
That's just, like your opinion man.

Under Lights

Quote from: nrico2006 on August 17, 2021, 09:51:01 AM
So is everybody back training?

As for this covid blame game, why is there such a focus on the post Ulster Final activities given that these infections are more than likely from before the Ulster Final.

Stems from an ill fated BBQ after the Donegal game I'm afraid. Shutter to think how many played the UF not knowing they were carrying the disease.


trueblue1234

Quote from: yellowcard on August 17, 2021, 10:04:27 AM
The precedent has now been set and it will be interesting to see if/when there are Covid outbreaks during the upcoming club championships and individual teams seek postponement, how it is dealt with by county boards. The response of the Tyrone supporters has shown the tribal nature of the GAA and in many ways that is understandable. But lets not pretend that it is anything other than looking after their own interests. The Tyrone management have played a blinder from a strategic point of view, they forced the GAA's hand and got the outcome they wanted.

Let's be honest, so have all the Armagh posters on here. Again, understandable I suppose. But let's not dress it up as anything else.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

Armagh18

Quote from: Corkscrew on August 16, 2021, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 15, 2021, 08:50:38 PM
I don't get the backslapping over this Kerry statement at all.

To do anything else would be heartless and a spectacular own-goal. Also, the statement is loaded with digs. The lowest one is that...'what are Tyrone at? We have been angels and it's not our fault'. God forbid there's an outbreak in the Kerry camp. They also don't say what they asked Croke. We'll never know.

Only for Kerry's intervention Tyrone would be out of the championship so you would need to rethink your opinion.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40360100.html
Fair play to Kerry and especially Mayo. No one wants to see the match not played. Hopefully Kerry tank them off the field fair and square.

Redhand Santa

Quote from: yellowcard on August 17, 2021, 10:04:27 AM
The precedent has now been set and it will be interesting to see if/when there are Covid outbreaks during the upcoming club championships and individual teams seek postponement, how it is dealt with by county boards. The response of the Tyrone supporters has shown the tribal nature of the GAA and in many ways that is understandable. But lets not pretend that it is anything other than looking after their own interests. The Tyrone management have played a blinder from a strategic point of view, they forced the GAA's hand and got the outcome they wanted.

A precedent has not been set. The gaa rules said that once teams got to the all ireland semi finals they would be accommodated if there was a covid outbreak. In earlier championship games or the league teams would have to concede a walkover if couldn't field. What happened with Tyrone was in line with this. It's much easier to postpone a few games later in the championship than at the beginning.

What happens in the club championships will come down to the individual county board rules and time available to play the competitions.