Tyrone v Kerry - All-Ireland SF 2021

Started by RedHand88, July 31, 2021, 05:56:14 PM

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Who will win?

Tyrone by 1-3
Tyrone by 4+
Kerry by 1-3
Kerry by 4+

Estimator

#390
Tyrone not fielding a team next week.
County Board released a statement.
Ulster League Champions 2009

yellowcard

Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielded a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain. 

Estimator

Quote from: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielding a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain. 
Putting the pressure on early to get the extra week??
But, how much of a difference will another 7days actually make?
Ulster League Champions 2009

imtommygunn

I think they are right to do this. What's the point in pulling boys who haven't been near a county setup into a team to just put up a show and likely get hammered. It would do nothing for anyone. If boys are properly sick too then they shouldn't be under pressure to play.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2021, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielded a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain.
You cannot realistically expect them to pull men out of the air to play an AI Semi Final.


That is exactly the expectation. Terribly sorry lads, but field a side or pull out.

yellowcard

Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:23:43 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielding a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain. 
Putting the pressure on early to get the extra week??
But, how much of a difference will another 7days actually make?

It will keep them in the championship a week longer than they would otherwise have been!

I do have some sympathy for the players affected but the county board also have a duty to play the fixture regardless. I previously thought that this was just an idle threat and honestly never thought they would actually withdraw. I still think there is a bit of brinksmanship around this decision and that they are just trying to see can they squeeze another week from the GAA.

RedHand88

Right call from Tyrone. Poor form from the GAA expecting players to play an all ireland semi final a few days after ending isolation. It's just dangerous to expect that intending

Captain Obvious

Allow Monaghan re-enter the championship.

RedHand88

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 14, 2021, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2021, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielded a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain.
You cannot realistically expect them to pull men out of the air to play an AI Semi Final.


That is exactly the expectation. Terribly sorry lads, but field a side or pull out.

Isn't pulling out exactly what they're doing?

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 14, 2021, 01:35:11 PM
Allow Monaghan re-enter the championship.
I wonder is there any precedence for this?

Eire90

can the gaa not play final in october

twohands!!!

QuoteTyrone GAA Statement Re- All Ireland Football Semi-Final V. Kerry
August 14th, 2021

This morning, the Tyrone GAA Management Committee has decided that it is not in a position to field its senior football team in the rescheduled All-Ireland football championship semi-final in Croke Park, on next Saturday.
Having received expert medical opinion on the existing, and future health and welfare of the players who contracted the Covid19 virus during the period of this last two weeks, and following consultation with the team's management, this decision has been made with the greatest reluctance, and with deep regret.
It is acknowledged that the decision taken will cause major disappointment and significant inconvenience for the Association, in general, the GAA fraternity of Kerry, and especially for Tyrone's patrons and supporters, but the welfare and safety of players has been the over-riding factor in all considerations of this difficult situation.

https://tyronegaa.ie/2021/08/tyrone-gaa-statement-re-all-ireland-football-semi-final-v-kerry/

I always thought that if the number of cases was as high as rumoured that it was always likely that Tyrone wouldn't be able to field.
Probably won't ever come out but it would be interesting to know how exactly there were two outbreaks in the same squad and what sort of percentage of the squad was vaccinated.
I've younger relatives who were absolutely racing to get the vaccine as soon as they could for fear they would miss county championship games.
Hopefully none of those infected suffer any long-term damage.

GlenMan

Quote from: twohands!!! on August 14, 2021, 01:55:46 PM
QuoteTyrone GAA Statement Re- All Ireland Football Semi-Final V. Kerry
August 14th, 2021

This morning, the Tyrone GAA Management Committee has decided that it is not in a position to field its senior football team in the rescheduled All-Ireland football championship semi-final in Croke Park, on next Saturday.
Having received expert medical opinion on the existing, and future health and welfare of the players who contracted the Covid19 virus during the period of this last two weeks, and following consultation with the team's management, this decision has been made with the greatest reluctance, and with deep regret.
It is acknowledged that the decision taken will cause major disappointment and significant inconvenience for the Association, in general, the GAA fraternity of Kerry, and especially for Tyrone's patrons and supporters, but the welfare and safety of players has been the over-riding factor in all considerations of this difficult situation.

https://tyronegaa.ie/2021/08/tyrone-gaa-statement-re-all-ireland-football-semi-final-v-kerry/

I always thought that if the number of cases was as high as rumoured that it was always likely that Tyrone wouldn't be able to field.
Probably won't ever come out but it would be interesting to know how exactly there were two outbreaks in the same squad and what sort of percentage of the squad was vaccinated.
I've younger relatives who were absolutely racing to get the vaccine as soon as they could for fear they would miss county championship games.
Hopefully none of those infected suffer any long-term damage.

Being vaccinated doesn't stop you from getting Covid and testing positive though?

Agreed that it's going to be a big issue during the Club Championship.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: RedHand88 on August 14, 2021, 01:35:33 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on August 14, 2021, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on August 14, 2021, 01:29:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 14, 2021, 01:17:59 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 14, 2021, 01:12:44 PM
Tyrone not fielded a team next week.

Very bad form from Tyrone, there are 25 fit players within Tyrone to fulfill the fixture. They were massive underdogs before Covid so it will likely make no difference to the predicted outcome. Unless they are taking the huff and are simply trying to call the GAA's bluff. The biggest losers if the game doesn't go ahead will be Kerry who have cakewalked their way into an All Ireland final without any sort of test. Does this now mean the final will revert to the original date? All sorts of questions remain.
You cannot realistically expect them to pull men out of the air to play an AI Semi Final.


That is exactly the expectation. Terribly sorry lads, but field a side or pull out.

Isn't pulling out exactly what they're doing?

If you take it at face value, yes. I suspect its a strategy

LCohen

My understanding is that Tyrone have not withdrawn from the competition.

They have advised HQ that they will not be fulfilling the scheduled fixture.

The 2 are not the same.

Ball is in GAA's court.

What flexibility the GAA have and what their assessment of the position within Tyrone is will both be interesting reading.