Tyrone County Football and Hurling

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trueblue1234

Quote from: Scoring Zone on January 21, 2022, 08:56:22 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on January 21, 2022, 02:56:55 PM
https://tyronegaa.ie/2022/01/gaa-champions-tyrone-welcome-mcaleer-rushe-back-on-board-as-main-sponsors/?fbclid=IwAR2wZI6yhy_Sl7bH_HcRuvGjJrqX8ms3MUC2y9YrhMn0TzysAOx1rEBPf_g

Yes, that's the jersey design.

They could have put in more effort.I wonder is there a lot of cost involved in doing a new design? I wouldn't expect so and surely a new design would boost jersey sales. I wish they would bring back the hoops a la '03. I'd be more inclined to get a retro 2003 jersey, haven't liked or bought any of the jerseys since target express.

At least the logo is fine. I wasn't a fan of the Tyrone fabrications logo, though it was better than Hunky Dorys...


The cost of the design surely be labour and hourly rate of the artworkers plus material and sewers (which by my guess would be €10-15 if that, on the shelf), but imo to cough this up again so soon is v hard to justify, is reeks of laziness and has a hint of f**k them (us the consumers) they'll buy what we cough up, hope ONeills get hit in the sales for this bullshit, which they would deserve

To be fair O'Neill's work to the county's brief. O'Neill's have any number of different designs that clubs and counties can go for. Think you just find that counties tend to be fairly conservative.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

LeoMc

I would assume McAleer & Rushe wanted to keep it consistent with the jersies of the other teams they are sponsoring and are thinking of the fans rather than the profits.

toby47

Very good & honest interview in the Irish News by Ronnie O'Neill. Part 2 is in Monday's paper.

RedHand88

Quote from: bigtogs on January 21, 2022, 04:21:10 PM
Bought 4 Jerseys at christmas for my kids and nephew feck that old hat now!!!!!!!

There was always going to be a new jersey with the 4 stars on it. Should have held off.

God14

Quote from: toby47 on January 23, 2022, 08:20:53 AM
Very good & honest interview in the Irish News by Ronnie O'Neill. Part 2 is in Monday's paper.

Brilliant interview
It's easy to critique players in the stands or even on here, but we are all too forgetful of the sacrifices these lads make, and the turmoil they themselves go through when things don't go to plan
The story about his brothers wedding, and not making the 26.... Whao.

omagh_gael

For those who haven't seen it...


FOR the best part of a decade Ronan O'Neill loved playing for Tyrone. For him, it was the ultimate privilege.

Some years it was pure magic – the chipped goals, ridiculous points, the 'Dab' celebrations, podium appearances and the chaos and imagination he brought to a football field.

Other years, playing for Tyrone tortured his soul.

Last season, which turned out to be his last, was one of those years. During Tyrone's incredible run to the 2021 All-Ireland title, O'Neill didn't know from one game to the next whether he would be involved.

He was part of the victorious Ulster final squad that overcame Monaghan, coming on as a 66th minute substitute, and was named in the Tyrone squad for the All-Ireland semi-final against Kerry a month later.

Would the St Enda's Omagh clubman make Feargal Logan and Brian Dooher's 26-man All-Ireland final squad?

The form line and the steady selection policy suggested yes, but if he'd learned anything in his 10 years with Tyrone, absolutely nothing was guaranteed.

"We'd normally train Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday, but after the Kerry game we went Monday, Wednesday, Friday and my brother's wedding was on the Friday in Carlingford and I was best man," O'Neill explains.

"Management said: 'Go to the wedding'.

"And I said: 'Well, I'm not going if it's going to impact on me getting into the squad because it's the All-Ireland final. I'm not doing anything to jeopardise my place in the squad because I was in the squad for the Kerry game.

"But Feargal said: 'It'll not jeopardise it at all.'"

Management were giving no guarantees – just an assurance that attending his brother's wedding eight days out from the final wasn't going to have any tangible impact one way or the other.

O'Neill mulled it over, chatted to his brother and after some torturous deliberation he felt he couldn't afford to miss Friday night's training session.

He went to his brother's wedding, gave his best man speech, left the hotel at 6pm, raced up the road and arrived at Garvaghey at 7.25pm still in his tuxedo. The best dressed man ever to attend a Tyrone training session.

"When I arrived the team were doing video work, I got changed, trained, back in the tuxedo, back down to the wedding and stayed. I obviously didn't drink, it didn't enter my head.

"We were training on Sunday morning at nine o'clock, up the road again, trained, did well. It was match scenarios – four 10-minute games. Not that I thought that that would swing it in my favour but I was doing well to merit staying in the squad."

A teacher at St Joseph's College, Coalisland, the kids were the perfect distraction for O'Neill in the week leading up to the All-Ireland final against Mayo.

Sitting on 99 appearances for his county, the All-Ireland final would bring it up to a cool century.

"I knew after the Ulster final against Monaghan that I was on 99 games and I would target the All-Ireland semi-final or final. Id get to 100 and that would be it.

"I'd mentioned to a couple of close friends – Tiernan McCann, Conor Meyler, and a few other boys - at the start of the year it would be my last year and that I would give my all.

"I got myself into ridiculous shape. I worked with Meyler over lockdown, I went to the well. I was in a really good place when Tyrone started up again."

After Tyrone's All-Ireland breakthrough win over Kerry at the end of August, the drum roll had well and truly begun around the O'Neill County, with the schools being the excitable hub.

Some pupils would whisper and point in the corridors: 'Mr O'Neill is playing for Tyrone in the All-Ireland final."

****************

THURSDAY night before the final. The moment of truth. Ronan O'Neill is called to speak to management.

He can't believe what he's hearing. He hasn't made the squad.

"I knew it was coming once I was called over," he says.

"They pulled me aside and I said: 'This cannot be happening.' I kept saying: 'I'm always the fall guy'. As soon as they talked I just zoned out.

"This was potentially my last game and I was not even in the squad. I remember trying not to be an energy-sapper. It was hard. I put my hoodie up and they were talking to the team. The boys could see I was annoyed. A number of boys came over to me and were saying: 'Keep the head up. We need you to help the team on the day.' And I was thinking: 'How am I not going to play this last game for Tyrone?'

"I got into the car and burst out crying. I was in a bad way. I got home and went straight to my bed. Next day the school was giving me a send-off and I didn't want to be there.

"As soon as I left school, I said: 'Right, I need to get my head around this. We've a final to play, I'm one of the more experienced members of the team and I need to be positive because if I don't it's going to seep into the rest of the group.'

"In the changing room before the game it was hard and I was thinking: 'I'd just love to be one of those boys togging out. I imagined all week that I would come on and kick a point, do something in the game, and that was taken away. It was really hard to deal with, but I just had to give whatever I had to other boys... Thankfully we got over the line on the day."

****************

UPON Logan and Dooher taking the reins in 2021, opportunities in the Tyrone team had opened up significantly.

A few more out-and-out forward berths had been created in the starting line-up – good news for O'Neill – plus Gaelic football appeared to be coming back into the light from the defensive darkness of the previous decade.

The 29-year-old attacker didn't feature in Division One North wins over Donegal and Armagh or in the drawn game against Monaghan.

With things going from bad to worse down in Killarney, however, O'Neill was thrust into the action for the start of the second half in place of Paul Donaghy against a rampant Kerry.

He nabbed a point but was helpless to stop the Kingdom putting six goals past the Ulstermen.

Tyrone were forced to re-appraise everything, and that entailed personnel changes. Darragh Canavan also suffered injury in Killarney which opened up a space in the attack.

The squad was laced with attacking quality. Darren McCurry was moving well, Niall Sludden too, Conor McKenna seemed a shoo-in most days, Mattie Donnelly, Mark Bradley, Paul Donaghy's star burned brightly at the beginning of the NFL campaign and Cathal McShane was inching back to full fitness.

O'Neill, though, was firmly in Logan and Dooher's eye-line.

But come Tyrone's first Ulster Championship outing of the summer against a Cavan team at a low ebb, O'Neill didn't make the cut.

"Now, it was cut throat all year," O'Neill says. "It kept people on their toes. I just felt I should have got a chance. You can ask any of the boys. During that period of eight weeks after the Kerry hammering I was going extremely well.

"I felt after the Kerry defeat the script would be ripped up and I'd get a chance on my home ground against Cavan. You get in the team and stay there, but it didn't happen. I was scratching my head when I didn't even make the squad.

"I remember thinking then I didn't want to go back. It was a couple of weeks to a semi-final and a possible Ulster final; anything could happen. I just wanted to play football. I was in the shape of my life and I was playing well, I wanted people to see this..."

Against his own instincts he went to training on the Tuesday after the Cavan win. He spoke to no-one, played centre half-forward in an in-house game and kicked four points.

'Right," he thought. 'They have to put in the squad for the next match.'

Days before the eagerly awaited semi-final with Donegal, numbers 16 to 26 were called out.

Still no O'Neill.

"What is going on here? Boys were coming up to me and asking: 'Why are you not playing?'

"I'd have a deadly relationship with most of the forwards because you know what type of balls to kick in. I played well alongside 'Sparky' [Mark Bradley] and Darren McCurry all year, and the other forwards too. I remember McCurry saying in training: 'That man has to play.'

"If he's saying it and the backroom team is saying I'm close, I was going home so confused. I wasn't nice to be around all year. But how can I question Feargal and Brian – they won the All-Ireland at the end of the day."

All-Ireland heartache awaited Richie Donnelly too. Playing the shirt off his back against Cavan, O'Neill's 2010 All-Ireland minor team-mate suffered an injury, had to withdraw and never got back in the squad for the rest of the campaign.

Rory Brennan was another. Picked up a black card against Donegal and couldn't muscle his way back into the reckoning.

Ronan O'Neill turns on the style for Omagh in the Ulster Club Championship Picture: Margaret McLaughlin 

AFTER Tyrone seized their fourth All-Ireland title on September 11 O'Neill masked his disappointment by enjoying every last drop of the celebrations that last three or four days.

But 2021 has had scarring effect – to the point where O'Neill sought professional help from a sports psychologist in a bid to make sense of a torturous year.

"That's why I couldn't go for another year. I couldn't go through that again, mentally," he says.

"I had to go and see somebody. I went to a sports psychologist. I needed somebody to talk to about it, somebody to bounce off. I was in a bad way.

"I couldn't go back another year, play in the McKenna Cup, play the first few rounds of the League, Tyrone lose, you have an okay game, but I'm getting sacked because x, y and z are coming back from rehab and they're coming straight in again and then you're wondering why you're not playing.

"Then you're complaining to your girlfriend, your mummy and daddy. It's just a constant cycle. I don't want to do that. The best football I played was after lockdown, I played eight games and I ended up top scorer in Tyrone all year because I was playing with complete freedom. I was happy. There's nothing worse when you're not playing football."

A couple of weeks after Tyrone's All-Ireland victory, O'Neill is lining out for Omagh down in Derrylaughan: "They're playing 15 men behind the ball, rain pissing down...I just didn't want to be there."

***************

SITTING in a café on the outskirts of Dungannon on a dank Wednesday at tea-time, you sense the emotion in O'Neill's voice as he tells how his Tyrone career ended at just 29.

There's not a trace of resentment towards Logan or Dooher. They did what they had to do. They won the All-Ireland. They delivered on Tyrone's rich promise.

O'Neill totally gets that. He also knows that other team-mates suffered a similar fate.

Since he was a teenager, Ronan O'Neill was destined for great things.

He starred in Tyrone's 2010 All-Ireland minor winning team and was truly humbled and forever indebted to Mickey Harte for calling him into the senior squad in 2012.

In March of that year, he suffered a cruciate injury while training with the U21s and it probably took him longer than expected to get back to his flamboyant best.

When O'Neill hit the high notes there was none better. He was simply awesome.

Club and county honours followed in a roller-coaster career that experienced as many highs as it did lows.

Defensive formations undoubtedly hurt the trajectory of his career. In another era his narrative may have been different.

Logan and Dooher wanted him to stay on for the 2022 season, but after some soul-searching O'Neill thanked both men and politely declined.

On New Year's Eve, while on the team holiday in Orlando, O'Neill confirmed the news on his Twitter account.

"Tough to go. Was worth it all. Been a pleasure. Thanks to all who helped me achieve my dream, especially my family and Justina. Onto the next chapter."


HokeyPokey

Quote from: toby47 on January 23, 2022, 08:20:53 AM
Very good & honest interview in the Irish News by Ronnie O'Neill. Part 2 is in Monday's paper.

I remember thinking he looked the real deal when I saw him play for the Tyrone minors.There were times where he had really good games, but often he just didn't make an impact which seemed to be the case more and more the last few years. I think he missed a bit more speed or strength to be able to really push on and establish himself.

Maybe he deserved to be stuck with when the ground was drier, there certainly seemed to be a core group of players Harte would always stick with, but then the likes of McAliskey, O'Neill, Brennan, McCurry etc were dropped if they didn't make an impact. Obviously you want that competition there, but Logan and Dooher showed how sticking with and having confidence in someone like McCurry can reap rewards. 

HokeyPokey

#14452
https://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/60102870

That's McCann gone now too. Thought he had a real renaissance last year, after a few patchy years, and had a big impact. He'll be a big miss. I wonder would Cassidy have withdrew if McCann had already announced?

tyrone08

Quote from: HokeyPokey on January 23, 2022, 11:16:10 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/60102870

That's McCann gone now too. Thought he had a real renaissance last year, after a few patchy years, and had a big impact. He'll be a big miss. I wonder would Cassidy have withdrew if McCann had already announced?

He will be a loss for sure. I am a but concerned at the amount of people stepping away from the setup. A few injuries this year and tyrone could find themselves very light on high quality options coming off the bench.

Tyrone11234

O'Neill and mccann have been great servants to Tyrone football- O'Neill one of the best club players I've seen in Tyrone also.

HokeyPokey

Quote from: tyrone08 on January 23, 2022, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on January 23, 2022, 11:16:10 AM
https://www.bbc.com/sport/gaelic-games/60102870

That's McCann gone now too. Thought he had a real renaissance last year, after a few patchy years, and had a big impact. He'll be a big miss. I wonder would Cassidy have withdrew if McCann had already announced?

He will be a loss for sure. I am a but concerned at the amount of people stepping away from the setup. A few injuries this year and tyrone could find themselves very light on high quality options coming off the bench.

I'd be concerned too, especially the ability to change the game from the bench. McCann, Cassidy and Bradley is a lot of pace gone and O'Neill could pick a pass.

That said, a bit of fresh blood and hunger could help keep things fresh. It might push some other young players on, now they see an opening. The main core of the panel hasn't changed much the last few years so it could be a blessing in disguise.

Baile an tuaigh

That Ronan O Neill article gives you an insight to the commitment panel players give to the cause.

That's alot of class and experience that will be badly missed at training and in house games.

With the travel restrictions last year in the US a lot of American clubs have been saving up for this year and one club I know has 300k in their account.

I could see alot of quality players going state side this Summer.

APM

That Ronan O'Neill article was a tough read.  It would have been a tougher read for his family.

Keeping a big positive head on you, when you have been devastated by the selectors - that's tough.  The right response is to train hard and come back stronger next year. That can't be easy when you have been left on the fringes by successive management teams, but kept around the panel at the same time.  Useful for in-house matches? It would take a very strong personality not to finish up resentful. 



toby47

just read part 2 there in the paper. Very good interview in full.


03,05,08

Can anyone put in part 2 of the O'Neill interview