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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:32:36 PM »
I can find no report of it. did you Report it?

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:16:57 PM »
Sorry - but there's nothing tricky about a decision to ban someone who calls another forum member a c*cksucker.


Mod - you signed up for the job to be a moderator. If you don't want to do it - give it up.

what post is that? Was it reported?

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:03:34 PM »
Lads, my final say on this matter. I know people are frustrated with not banning posters who seem to constantly set out to wind others up. I also know that banning people brings its own frustrations and upsets from those who want very light moderation if any at all.

I know that most people actually want the same thing, a forum where they can chat and discuss things without being afraid that everything they say is being monitored, but at the same time in a place where it will not be destroyed by WUMs or by continuous abusive messages between posters spoiling the thread for everyone.

Out of interest I have a poll set up to take a pulse on attitudes towards moderation, but I absolutely accept that some threads have been spoiled by people who have no interest in doing anything other than winding people up.

I'm also aware that there are other posters whose views are absolutely abhorrent to me personally, and to a lot of other people. The tricky thing is trying to decide whether banning them is right, because they are more destructive than they are worth, or should they be left in situ so that other people can tear down their nonsense.

It's a balancing act, and I try to err on the side of less bannings, but perhaps I need to take stock of things, and maybe a purge is needed. I will review some of these reported threads and see if we can tighten things up a bit.

Also, I am aware that people start topics like this, in general, out of an interest in improving the board so I have no problem on that score.

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 02:43:21 PM »
Did you just go all Godwin's law on us? :)

In a way, but in this instance the poster is literally espousing Neo-Nazi sentiments consistently. Just because saying Nazi is a meme now doesn’t mean it shouldn't be used when it actually describes an account’s stance. We’re not talking about Mickey Harte making his players say Hail Marys and someone saying he’s like Hitler.

Please respond to the substantive point being made in the above post.

I'm not sure what the 'point' was. You hypothesised that he would only be allowed here and in Neo Nazi sites. And then said is that the sort of company we want to keep. That's not a point, that's an innuendo based on you making a highly presumptive statement.

So the answer is 'No, I do not want to be associated with Nazi sites, but neither do I believe he'd be banned from all other sites other than this one.'


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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 02:29:07 PM »
Did you just go all Godwin's law on us? :)

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General discussion / More Active/Stricter Moderation - Yes/No
« on: October 06, 2017, 02:11:34 PM »
Genuinely interested in the response to this. In the past the moderation has been seen as too 'heavy handed', now the board is struggling with threads descending into slagging matches, many provocative posts and a significant number of WUMs, Trolls and shit stirrers. Do people on the board want mods to take a much harsher line on posters? Should there be much more frequent bans handed out for those who appear to be just causing angst for the craic?

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 02:03:52 PM »
a) I think you'd be surprised.

b) I think you are right. The site would be better without every second thread descending into a political and/or social viewpoint morass, but it's more than just the 'WUMS' that are causing that. Some (a lot) of people seem to genuinely thrive on that sort of stuff. Once they don't go nuts, why would I tell them what is a valid debating topic?


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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 01:53:17 PM »
You keep alluding to your vast experience in internet technologies. It's amusing.

Anyhow, I'm not the admin, I'm just a lowly mod. But the time consuming bit is sorting out the squabbles if you want to go into that detail. We used to here, in the years BS, and if you truly do have knowledge of that you would know it is a very time consuming task. Again, people wanted you banned, because you are a WUM.

Imagine that multiplied by about 30 people. You have no idea.

I graduated from college with a BSc. in Computer Science, work as a software dev and have used computers since I could walk and have been involved with forums nearly as long (some being very much comparable to this in size, so don’t think I don’t understand the logistics) - there is no ‘alluding’ to my experience with technology - it’s there in black and white.

But trying to personalise it is just distracting from the real issue - the lack of oversight here. Trying to draw equilvence between people not liking what I say and Foxcommader’s blindly obvious status as a dedicated troll account with absolutely no redemptive posts indicating anything other than a desire to cause as much offense as possible is nonsense, to be frank.

There’s a difference between a forum with light moderation and one with non-exsistent moderation - this place falls in the later category yet none of what makes it good would be worse if it was in the former. If anyone thinks troll accounts like Foxcommander add anything to the site they are only fooling themselves.

Well done. So did I. I wasn't trying to 'personalise' it, I was just saying that the 'Technology' of an internet forum is different to the mechanics of actually moderating one, so I wasn't sure why you keep alluding to how well you understand Internet technologies. I wasn't having a go at you or your qualifications in that field.

As for troll accounts, we'll just have to agree to disagree. I can get you any number of posters who would be happy to say that you are a WUM, a Troll, and only post to incite a response. I could show you several reports. I have not acted on any of them because I don't believe you are, I just happen to disagree with a lot of what you say, but I think you are genuine.

With some others, I'm not sure, but again I can guarantee you that if they were banned, you have an equal number of people complaining about the ban. So, on the basis that you can never please everyone, I try to do light touch moderation, and only get involved when things get serious with regards to racist posts, abuse or some sort of needlessly out of order remark about a real person, especially in the GAA.

Apologies if you don't agree with that philosophy, but sure that's life.

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 01:13:40 PM »
*laoislad is banned*

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 01:06:30 PM »
You keep alluding to your vast experience in internet technologies. It's amusing.

Anyhow, I'm not the admin, I'm just a lowly mod. But the time consuming bit is sorting out the squabbles if you want to go into that detail. We used to here, in the years BS, and if you truly do have knowledge of that you would know it is a very time consuming task. Again, people wanted you banned, because you are a WUM.

Imagine that multiplied by about 30 people. You have no idea.

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 12:46:49 PM »
PS. My absolute favourite is when people post stuff that they know will provoke a response, and then report it when the response is generated. My 4 year old uses the same tactic with her brother !

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General discussion / Re: Foxcommander
« on: October 06, 2017, 12:43:54 PM »
Syferus, I'm a mod here. And I can completely agree that I don't spend a lot of time moderating here. I like to post here myself, but I don't have time to go moderating every single thread, or trying to decide whether someone is a WUM, a Troll, or just a genuine contradictorian. I will look at FoxCommanders latest post, as he and several others are on a thin line already and have been told so.

As for the Mickey Harte comment, I'm not sure what you're getting at, but if you think I am from Tyrone, you're off base. Where the bias (if any) comes in is trying to protect people and families of people who might actually read this board. So anyone having a big go at a GAA person will be a lot more likely to provoke action than someone talking about Ryan Giggs. Maybe that's not consistent, but I don't apologise for trying to protect our own. Some people say I don't go far enough.

As for WUMs, Trolls and generally banning people, I'm not in favour of it because one man's trolling is another man's valid opinion. I just try to make sure they don't descend into outright abuse. Quite a lot of people called for your banning, for example, as a troll/WUM. I didn't agree with it, as I felt you hadn't broken any rules and were genuine enough.

It's not always as black and white as you suggest. That being said I have, and other mods have, banned people in the past. And if we need to do it again, we will.

I freely admit I don't moderate every thread and every post. I have a life outside of this board and if that means I'm a bad moderator, so be it. I'm comfortable in trusting people to at least be adult, and when things escalate, then I step in.

One thing I have learned over the years is EVERYONE wants close moderation of those people they disagree with. NOBODY wants to see someone they agree with sanctioned or posts edited.

In short, if everyone was just grown up, you wouldn't need any moderation.

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General discussion / Re: Cross dressing school kids on Isle of Wight
« on: September 15, 2017, 10:15:29 AM »
Lads, I've been slack on the moderating for a good while now. Apologies for that. Sometimes it's not easy to catch up on all the nonsense that's happening on here, and live in the real world at the same time. I think it's pretty clear that the standards have dropped on here. Every post is an argument, which is fine to a certain extent, but every argument pretty quickly descends into name calling, and other petty, childish rubbish.

I have no grá for banning people on this board, but I've sent several PMs to people just on a few things, so please, just dial it back. Try and argue without name calling. Try not to write horrible crude stuff about real people, or groups of people. If you disagree on something like this particular issue here, it's easy to articulate your position without calling other posters names, or without denigrating a whole section of the community.

In short, please cop on.

Cheers.

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General discussion / Re: Manchester Arena
« on: May 25, 2017, 11:09:54 AM »
Lads just tried to clean up this thread a bit as a tangential discussion had the potential to descend into petty stuff, and was making it hard to follow the point of this thread, which is the horrific attack in Manchester.

No problem with the discussion being had, per se, but I don't think this thread was appropriate.

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Hi Lads.. I have been following this thread, and while I fundamentally disagree with the OP's opinion on this, I don't believe he has specifically breached Rule 2, although he has made, in my opinion, some outrageously silly comments and drawn ridiculous conclusions. However, it is obvious to me that we are venturing towards that sort of territory, and obviously other people feel a lot differently about it, and are veering towards breaching Rule1 themselves. Therefore I am going to close this thread, and ask that it not be restarted. The makeup of our county panels, and debating the reasons for a players decision to play/not play are worthy of discussion, which is why I didn't close it earlier. However, I am cogniscant that some of the comments would be at best uncomfortable reading for the player, or his friends and family, so let's just leave it there. Any comments or disagreements, feel free to IM me, but I will tolerate no more debate on Jamie Clarke and his decision to live his own life. Best of luck to him.

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