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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 22, 2021, 09:12:13 AM »
I was referring  to this idea  that the vaccinated are all wearing  masks, doing the right things, whereas the unvaccinated are running around mental, adhering to no guidance . It’s clearly not true, but that’s what people believe

Ah, OK.

Yeah, that is more than a fair point. There are some believe the vaccines are a silver bullet and means they can party like its 2018...

But, that does not mean I am going any less harsh on those that refuse to get vaccinated.

Ok, so you are saying that  vaccinated and unvaccinated people are both to blame?

Take the road safety example, you may still have an accident despite having a well-maintained car and driving safely. Many vaccinated people will become infected although they have taken all reasonable measures. if you drive a car too fast or on bald tyres then you to blame, not getting vaccinated is in this category. Some vaccinated people may be sloppy in other respects, but many are not.

I read the above and I worry about the road ahead. Contrary to what you believe, the unvaxxed are scared people - not of taking a vax but what ransom people like yourself will hold them to. You are the danger in all of this.

Thats summed it up for me. For me its not so much about the vaccine as the controls and measures like covid passports or digital health certificates etc that our governments can introduce without so much as a whimper from politicians, media or the judiciary.
           I don't think its going to end well.

Yes totally agree.

The idea of mandatory vaccination, if that was made law, then why would you need covid passports? Or this digital health app/certificate? If every single person in the country was vaccinated, then there would be no reason for lockdowns, restrictions, curfews, working from home, no effects on businesses etc. Yes, people would still contract the virus, and some will get sick, and some will die, but life would continue as before. But it would basically be the survival of the fittest. If you survive, you survive. If you die, you die.

The government’s wouldn’t have a scapegoat  to pin this on because there would be no unvaccinated. People are turning on each other instead of on government for their handling of this. People would turn and point the finger at Them for the waning vaccines, numbers of infections and hospitalisations, and for their disastrous handling of the whole thing..   They won’t impose mandatory vaccines for  that very reason. They want division. They want control
This is bullshit. Nobody wants this pandemic
 Where did all the paranoid theories come from ?
You are just being played.

Well if Austria proceed with mandatory vaccinations, it will be interesting to see if they get rid of covid passports. Why would they need them if everyone is vaccinated ? If they’re still around by March, you have to wonder.

Who’s getting the blame for this recent surge in cases then? Is it the government for not preparing for this eventuality? The waning effect of vaccines? No, it’s the unvaccinated. It’s all their fault. There’s your scapegoat.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 22, 2021, 01:18:13 AM »
I was referring  to this idea  that the vaccinated are all wearing  masks, doing the right things, whereas the unvaccinated are running around mental, adhering to no guidance . It’s clearly not true, but that’s what people believe

Ah, OK.

Yeah, that is more than a fair point. There are some believe the vaccines are a silver bullet and means they can party like its 2018...

But, that does not mean I am going any less harsh on those that refuse to get vaccinated.

Ok, so you are saying that  vaccinated and unvaccinated people are both to blame?

Take the road safety example, you may still have an accident despite having a well-maintained car and driving safely. Many vaccinated people will become infected although they have taken all reasonable measures. if you drive a car too fast or on bald tyres then you to blame, not getting vaccinated is in this category. Some vaccinated people may be sloppy in other respects, but many are not.

I read the above and I worry about the road ahead. Contrary to what you believe, the unvaxxed are scared people - not of taking a vax but what ransom people like yourself will hold them to. You are the danger in all of this.

Thats summed it up for me. For me its not so much about the vaccine as the controls and measures like covid passports or digital health certificates etc that our governments can introduce without so much as a whimper from politicians, media or the judiciary.
           I don't think its going to end well.

Yes totally agree.

The idea of mandatory vaccination, if that was made law, then why would you need covid passports? Or this digital health app/certificate? If every single person in the country was vaccinated, then there would be no reason for lockdowns, restrictions, curfews, working from home, no effects on businesses etc. Yes, people would still contract the virus, and some will get sick, and some will die, but life would continue as before. But it would basically be the survival of the fittest. If you survive, you survive. If you die, you die.

The government’s wouldn’t have a scapegoat  to pin this on because there would be no unvaccinated. People are turning on each other instead of on government for their handling of this. People would turn and point the finger at Them for the waning vaccines, numbers of infections and hospitalisations, and for their disastrous handling of the whole thing..   They won’t impose mandatory vaccines for  that very reason. They want division. They want control

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:32:23 PM »
I was referring  to this idea  that the vaccinated are all wearing  masks, doing the right things, whereas the unvaccinated are running around mental, adhering to no guidance . It’s clearly not true, but that’s what people believe

Ah, OK.

Yeah, that is more than a fair point. There are some believe the vaccines are a silver bullet and means they can party like its 2018...

But, that does not mean I am going any less harsh on those that refuse to get vaccinated.

Ok, so you are saying that  vaccinated and unvaccinated people are both to blame?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:31:08 PM »
RadioGaaGaa:

I would absolutely be in favour of either. Or if that's not an option, if people want to opt out of public healthcare measures (i.e. vaccines), then they opt out of public healthcare for covid full stop.

'cos right now, their stupidity is without recourse until they are occupying/dying in a hospital bed that someone else could use.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We all know the dangers of smoking, drinking, eating unhealthy food, playing sports, driving vehicles, doing diy - should we also refuse medical treatment to people who participate in these?

I’d be fairly sure everyone on here participates in a  number of these. And their families. So if One of us fell off a ladder, sustained an injury playing Hurling or needed medical attention for a lung/liver problem... it’s fine to not let them  into the hospital?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:09:04 PM »
Come on man,  that’s like the “vaccinated = good, unvaccinated =  bad”

Its not a narrative.

Only dumb f*kkers who aren't a fraction as smart as they think they are think its some kind of narrative or sleight of hand by new world order or similar bull.

Vaccinated is good.
Unvaccinated is both stupid and selfish in the extreme.

I was referring  to this idea  that the vaccinated are all wearing  masks, doing the right things, whereas the unvaccinated are running around mental, adhering to no guidance . It’s clearly not true, but that’s what people believe

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 08:45:33 PM »
Benny what part of "ICU patients and deaths are predominantly unvaccinated" are you struggling with?! That's not MSM - I have 2 sisters in law working in Craigavon as a theatre nurse and a consultant. I know what is going on there. Are they in the pay of big Pharma to come home and tell people lies. Maybe Craigavon is an anomaly and across Ireland and Europe everyone else in ICU is double vaxxed.

The vast majority of "free-thinkers" I know personally and see posting on social media are typically unemployed and/or thick as two short planks. They are not free thinkers; they have f**k all else to do all day apart from brainwash themselves on social media, whilst the rest of go out to work and pay taxes to keep the useless cnuts alive in hospital.

Should your relatives be coming home telling you anything? Is, what goes on their place of work not confidential? If you worked in a  shop, would you come home and tell everyone how much the shops takings were for the day, who came in and what they bought?  I don’t doubt there are unvaccinated in hospital but predominantly could mean anything from 51% to 99%.

What’s the deal with boosters? Is there a time limit on vaccines? Technically do you need to be topped up before the 6 months have elapsed, otherwise you are classified as unvaccinated?  They are saying Vaccines wane after 3-4 months , so do you become classed as unvaccinated after 3 months then.  Or 4 months?

That last bit is only your own perspective.  People who are sceptical are lazy hoors with nothing else to do basically?  So if someone happens to be out of work, they’re a bit of a headcase, running around getting up to all sorts.. whereas those working are sensible citizens, doing what they’re told? Come on man,  that’s like the “vaccinated = good, unvaccinated =  bad” narrative  all over again... influenced by the media

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 01:34:25 PM »
Not reporting or misleading reporting. Its still not reporting the reality or the truth. Like I said earlier, it’s all to divide people (which it is doing), and divert people away from the real problems.

Thanks non vaccinated ****s, another death on ye're hands.

Look at that comment from this morning. Anyone who gets sick or does is automatically blamed on the small percentage that are unvaccinated. Nothing to do with failing vaccines, people putting themselves in danger due to a false sense of protection that vaccines/passports give, the fact that some who died are already very vulnerable, or maybe not even died with covid at all. 

The media reports it (and people believe it) that unvaccinated are all loons and vaccinated are good guys doing everything right. But I suppose some people will swallow anything they’re told, even though facts and figures have been deliberately distorted for nearly 2 years now

f**k off with your conspiracies.. I done with it.. that f**king idiot you posted up a few days ago is now arriving in push notifications on my phone... if you act like a loon don't surprised when you are considered one... 

I haven't  seen any black and white reporting your describing... you are mis representing msm to push your view that they are not reporting and misreporting your point off view... wake up sheep!!

To be honest, you’re the one shouting “wake up sheep” and making personal insults.  And anything i comment on  is ignored and the usual insult follows. That’s been a pattern with a lot of people.

How about addressing my point in the above  post, that was posted by another member? Do you agree with it? Do you see a problem with it?

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 12:28:32 PM »
Not reporting or misleading reporting. Its still not reporting the reality or the truth. Like I said earlier, it’s all to divide people (which it is doing), and divert people away from the real problems.

Thanks non vaccinated ****s, another death on ye're hands.

Look at that comment from this morning. Anyone who gets sick or does is automatically blamed on the small percentage that are unvaccinated. Nothing to do with failing vaccines, people putting themselves in danger due to a false sense of protection that vaccines/passports give, the fact that some who died are already very vulnerable, or maybe not even died with covid at all. 

The media reports it (and people believe it) that unvaccinated are all loons and vaccinated are good guys doing everything right. But I suppose some people will swallow anything they’re told, even though facts and figures have been deliberately distorted for nearly 2 years now

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 11:55:06 AM »
Yes,  And note the language that they use.  Countless others they could report but they choose that one.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: November 21, 2021, 11:36:37 AM »
Back when David Moyes was giving us all laughs as Man United manager we were told he wouldn’t be sacked as it wasn’t the Manchester United way… since then 4 managers have been sacked.
The Manchester United way is a load of bollox really isn’t it?

Im not sure who peddled that “Man Utd way” nonsense. United didn’t have to worry about sacking a manager for 25 years. You’ll never see that sort of reign again. Even a very successful manager is unlikely to spend more than 6/7 years in a job now. Football has changed now. Fans/clubs want success yesterday.

It’s similar to the talk of the “Down way” of playing Gaelic. Down have good teams in the 60’s and 90’s, but you can’t have that swashbuckling style with every team. You have to play a style that suit the players you have.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 11:28:04 AM »
"Sheeple" seems to be the in word in rwnj circles for the sensible people who got vaccinated, wear masks and try to avoid getting Covid.
Meanwhile a transplant had to be postponed in the Mater yesterday due to no ICU beds being available.
Thanks non vaccinated ****s, another death on ye're hands.

See what I mean?  ::)

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 11:26:25 AM »
It’s strange how any article that questions the narrative is dismissed as an anti-vaccine rag, right wing rag, left wing rag, or whatever else... yet we clearly have skewed figures from MSM, and fake polls from RTE in recent days.

There are millions protesting around Europe (and around the world), about lockdowns and vaccine passports, and have been going on for months. But not a word about them on MSM. But 4 people glue themselves to the M25 and Greta Thunberg brings 5 mates to the Climate thing and it makes worldwide news. I honestly think millions of people are waking up to this nonsense. None of it is making any sense. Regulations/lockdowns/vaccines and passports are clearly not working, but let’s continue pushing the nonsense that the unvaccinated are all to blame for this, push this agenda on MSM And it will get the the large number of frightened and those who don’t question things on our side, and divide the people.

that's a load of bollox.... there is and has been loads of articles and media time for the protests in Ireland UK NZ Austria Netherlands to name a few...

claiming there is false narrative in MSM or hiding something when peddling outright falsehoods  is hilarious 😂  wake up sheep!!

The only thing I seen was a quick flash of a few protesters in London. “15 headcases in attendance at a lockdown protest”, and then the cops go in heavy handed and they show a bit of a scuffle, with people watching at homes shaking their heads thinking “look at those loons “. It’s no wonder cases are high, they are clearly all to blame for this.

 It reminded me of BBCNI or UTV sports reports. GAA now, and yesterday two fenian teams beat the shite out of each other in the club championship. Look at this, 4 men sent off, and a woman jumped the fence to beat the referee with her handbag. We don’t have any scores to show you but look at this right hook from  the big full forward.

Go look for footage of the protests in Paris, Rome, Germany, Britain, Australia, Hungary, Croatia etc etc and the numbers in attendance. You’re unlikely to find it on BBC/RTE but you’ll see a lone climate activist sellotape himself to the M1 for sure

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
« on: November 21, 2021, 10:06:31 AM »
It’s strange how any article that questions the narrative is dismissed as an anti-vaccine rag, right wing rag, left wing rag, or whatever else... yet we clearly have skewed figures from MSM, and fake polls from RTE in recent days.

There are millions protesting around Europe (and around the world), about lockdowns and vaccine passports, and have been going on for months. But not a word about them on MSM. But 4 people glue themselves to the M25 and Greta Thunberg brings 5 mates to the Climate thing and it makes worldwide news. I honestly think millions of people are waking up to this nonsense. None of it is making any sense. Regulations/lockdowns/vaccines and passports are clearly not working, but let’s continue pushing the nonsense that the unvaccinated are all to blame for this, push this agenda on MSM And it will get the the large number of frightened and those who don’t question things on our side, and divide the people.

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: November 21, 2021, 09:50:51 AM »
Gone.
That’s sad news to wake up to.
I’m astonished they gave him so long in the job when it was obvious very early on that he wasn’t good enough. Everyone could see that apart from Man United fans though.
A shame that the fun is over.

I don’t think that was the case. As I said before, he did well initially, and should have been kept until the end of the season, patted on the back for a reasonably good job well done. He was never the right man. It was always going to come to this. It was just  a matter of when.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2021
« on: November 20, 2021, 07:19:24 PM »
£10 on Ulster Gaa TV (which isn't too bad tbf) but the way this seems to be playing out- TG4 Sundays are going to be a thing of the past pretty soon.

There’s an Ulster GAA TV?  :o

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