China Coronavirus

[RadioGAAGAA]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Indeed.

They are obviously going to be more susceptible to it - which should mean a larger number of them being bad enough to be tested & diagnosed.

But that doesn't mean the wider population don't have it in equal proportions - just that they are possibly not bad enough to be tested & diagnosed.

No proof without antibody testing, but its certainly a train of thought that'll gather momentum.

[Rossfan]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Because the residents are all corralled close together all day?

[armaghniac]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Because the residents are all corralled close together all day?

Not only that, but people are holding on to handrails and the like and the staff have to work very closely with them.

[Franko]

is this just lazy journalism or is there something else going on? - https://twitter.com/360_stan/status/1244575113003044865

the #emptyhospitals is also interesting on twitter. is it the calm before the storm?

It is the same in this country, the drunks and hypochondriacs have abandoned the A&E, while there are less accidents on sites, children's playgrounds etc. As mentioned on RTÉ radio this morning, they are worried that actual ill people are also not going to the doctor.

doesn't escape the fact that lots of people have lost their jobs and the world economy is in the shitter.

Yep. Although it was reported on RTÉ that Ireland would be one of the least badly affected, while still getting a dose.

No agreed, but she is peddling a line which gives the impression that many other business can and shouid close. I'm sure by now conor Murphy may have realised that HRMC need the money never mind us needing the services.

She is arguing for the same approach throughout Ireland, which is right and proper. Dampen down this virus and then you can have more business.

But it will not work. Sinn féin have yet to produce a list which they claim would be acceptable to them. Bring solutions not problems

Separated by a single sentence. 

It will not work because sf are calling for a much wider shut down. Any sensible shut down or solution will lead to a list similar to ROI which balances health and economic concerns. Michelle probably knows that, but as someone said, she is playing politics with the anti DUP or FG card

I thought we were into bringing solutions not problems?

That's s my point. The solution is there as good as it can be and in place. But of course Mary lou et al still looking for further shut down. Sin é

O'Neill was arguing for the approaches on both sides of the border to be harmonised.

Currently they are not, so to say "The solution is there as good as it can be and in place." is just factually and demonstrably wrong.

I don't know why you would say that.  Unless you had an agenda.

[RadioGAAGAA]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Because the residents are all corralled close together all day?

Not only that, but people are holding on to handrails and the like and the staff have to work very closely with them.

Is that significantly different from a house where everyone is sharing a kitchen (and normally a bathroom too)?

[LeoMc]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Because the residents are all corralled close together all day?

Not only that, but people are holding on to handrails and the like and the staff have to work very closely with them.

Is that significantly different from a house where everyone is sharing a kitchen (and normally a bathroom too)?

No, which would explain the 24 clusters in private houses.

[Itchy]

Johnson & Johnson, a company with an interesting back story seem to think they have the vaccination for the Coronavirus.

6 months away for production at best

[Itchy]

Has anyone outside Gaaboard proved that once you get this virus you're immune afterwards?

Not yet. Studies on the way. Many other viral infections work out that way but many other viral infections arent this infectious or have this level of mortality. So right now it's not known.

[armaghniac]

Has anyone outside Gaaboard proved that once you get this virus you're immune afterwards?

Not yet. Studies on the way. Many other viral infections work out that way but many other viral infections arent this infectious or have this level of mortality. So right now it's not known.

Notably, they found antibodies to SARS in people 15 years after they have recovered. Given that SARS was a close cousin of this dose, that does provide some encouragement. 

[RadioGAAGAA]

The missus was saying the same earlier about nursing homes. Deaths are explainable due to the nature of the residents but why would the cases be clustered there?

Because the residents are all corralled close together all day?

Not only that, but people are holding on to handrails and the like and the staff have to work very closely with them.

Is that significantly different from a house where everyone is sharing a kitchen (and normally a bathroom too)?

No, which would explain the 24 clusters in private houses.

But, given there are many, many, many more private houses than care homes - why do care homes form such a disproportionately large amount of the clusters?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Has anyone outside Gaaboard proved that once you get this virus you're immune afterwards?

Not yet. Studies on the way. Many other viral infections work out that way but many other viral infections arent this infectious or have this level of mortality. So right now it's not known.

Notably, they found antibodies to SARS in people 15 years after they have recovered. Given that SARS was a close cousin of this dose, that does provide some encouragement.

Do you lose the antibodies or does the virus mutate far enough that the antibodies aren't effective?

Correction: Of course you lose the antibodies - do you lose the ability to make the antibodies or does the virus mutate far enough that the antibody template is ineffective?

[imtommygunn]

More coming and going??

[RadioGAAGAA]

More coming and going??

Surely surely surely people are not visiting care homes at the moment?!?!

[Staff is a valid point I guess]

[laoislad]

17 dead today. Highest number yet.

[imtommygunn]

Would they not have been contracted weeks ago though?

17 dead