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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football - Rules & ...

Last post by David McKeown - Today at 03:20:13 PM

Even this bit doesnt make sense

5.44   
When an Aggressive Foul is committed, the Referee may allow the play to continue if the referee considers that this presents the potential of a goal-scoring opportunity or another advantage to the team offended by creating or capitalising on time and space. The Referee shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright and shall allow the advantage to run by maintaining that arm in the upright position for up to five seconds after the foul or for less time if it becomes clear that no advantage has accrued. If the referee deems no advantage to have accrued, the Referee may subsequently award a free for the foul from where it occurred, except as provided under Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2

The referee may allow the play to continue if there is a potential for an advantage in the next five seconds but can allow less if no advantage accrues in that lesser time.  What if no advantage accrues after say 3 seconds but one might still occur.  What does the ref do?  The tenses are wrong are they not?

I am even more confused now by the rule than I was when i didnt actually know what it was

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GAA Discussion / Re: All Ireland U20 football c...

Last post by the_daddy - Today at 02:53:09 PM

In Breffni Park

A fairly central venue - where else would you play it?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht senior football c...

Last post by twohands!!! - Today at 02:50:14 PM

How does "Scoring chances converted" relate to the next two rows? In Galway's case there is a only a difference of one in the sum of the frees and scores from play, but in Mayo's case there is a difference of 9?

Forget it jake, it's chinatownRTE

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tailteann Cup 2024

Last post by twohands!!! - Today at 02:45:41 PM

Could easily see Sligo having a right go at this.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Joe Brolly

Last post by RedHand88 - Today at 02:41:47 PM

And as Joe (rightly and constantly) bemoans the likes of Trump, the Tories, Israeli gov't etc for getting the lie out first, because that's the message that'll stick more the actual truth, he does the very same re the GAA.

Even our red hand neighbours would love to see us win Sam the year to see the hooer squirm, yes? Surely 

Thought about it there.

It wouldn't be worth it sorry!

Fergal McCusker is the one texting brolly one line sentences after games now according to his Indo post this week.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht senior football c...

Last post by weareros - Today at 02:11:44 PM

Bit of a contrast for Mayo compared to semi-final with Ros when they only registered 4 wides, and converted 16/24 chances - even though losing 8 out of their own kickouts. They tend to shoot better in the Hyde. Any chance we could give them home advantage for the group game.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Connacht senior football c...

Last post by armaghniac - Today at 02:08:48 PM

Does anyone have the statistics? Galway seemed to have been more efficient. Neither team were in peak condition either. Mayo lacked a bit of energy towards the end I thought.
Ultimately this match was only an appetiser

RTÉ stats.

How does "Scoring chances converted" relate to the next two rows? In Galway's case there is a only a difference of one in the sum of the frees and scores from play, but in Mayo's case there is a difference of 9?

[Foul Subsequent to Advantage AwardIf, during the advantage period, a foul is committed by a player of the team which was originally fouled then the advantage is cancelled and a free kick/puck awarded for the "second" foul.]

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football - Rules & ...

Last post by JoG2 - Today at 02:07:21 PM

And how is the fouled player to know he has an advantage? eyes in the back of his head?
It's a totally idiotic advantage rule when you can lose the advantage inside 4 seconds.

If a player does happen to notice that he has the advantage, can he stop play and say, 'thanks ref but I want the free kick not the so called advantage'?

No, he has to 'honestly' play on and make the ref call it that no advantage is being gained.

I think a ref would give the free in the case of getting bottled up, as it would be clear no advantage is being gained at the start of the bottling up.

It's where the attacking player overcarries for no ones fault but their own that a foul would be called.

A simple rule made into a minefield by the powers that be. The addition to the rule in the official guide / rules (effective from March 2024), in the referee's handbook (which was obviously news to me yesterday, and I want state on record that I'm delighted to have this new rule add-on learnt to let rip at a future game) states:

Foul Subsequent to Advantage Award
If, during the advantage period, a foul is committed by a player of the team which was originally fouled then the advantage is cancelled and a free kick/puck awarded for the "second" foul.

The above is not stated in the Official Playing Rules.

5.44   
When an Aggressive Foul is committed, the Referee may allow the play to continue if the referee considers that this presents the potential of a goal-scoring opportunity or another advantage to the team offended by creating or capitalising on time and space. The Referee shall signal that advantage by raising an arm upright and shall allow the advantage to run by maintaining that arm in the upright position for up to five seconds afterthe foul or for less time if it becomes clear that no advantage has accrued. If the referee deems no advantage to have accrued, the Referee may subsequently award a free for the foul from where it occurred, except as provided under Exceptions (v) and (vi) of Rule 2.2

For clarity Rule 2.2 (v and vi)

(v)When play is restarted by throwing in the ball after a foul(s) within 13m ofthe sideline, the throw-in shall be given 13m from the sideline and directly infield from where the foul(s) occurred.
(vi) When play is restarted by throwing in the ball after a foul(s) between the endline and the 20m line, the throw-in shall be given on the 20m line opposite where the foul(s)        occurred, subject to the provisions stated in



On the rule itself, if a player (hypothetical scenario, the player is bursting into the big D, 20m out from goal) is fouled, the ref's hand goes up to signal 5 seconds advantage, the player breaks free and shoots from 15m out, dead centre, misses, the ref will call it back. 2 bites of the cherry if you will.
Now, the same player takes 6 steps trying evade another defender, maybe he's been knocked off balance during the first tackle, commits a technical foul, maybe charges into another player, and loses the advantage.
Before the advantage rule was brought in, the player would have just got the very scorable free. Now, he could get either 2 easy shots for a score or nothing. Once the hands goes up, he has 5 seconds to not foul or he loses the free. He can't shout to ref  'here, I'll take the free thanks'..

If, for example, Conor Loftus during the final play in yesterday's Connacht final had been initially fouled and Gough's hand was up giving Loftus his 5 seconds advantage when the 2 Galway players tackled him (you can't tackle a man's neck and face, but that's for another day), Loftus was deemed to have committed a technical foul ie over carried the ball and would therefore have lost his advantage. In the olden days, Loftus gets his free, batters it up the pitch, game over.

Advantage 101 by the GAA

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GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Senior football cha...

Last post by armaghniac - Today at 02:05:06 PM

Yesterday morning on the Met.ie website the forecast for Sunday had rain the later part of the day. Yesterday evening the forecast for rain was gone, and it predicted dry and sunny, Today the rain is back but a bit earlier and likely to be a problem. The BBC website predicts light showers. Weather forecasting in Ireland is not yet able to predict this far in advance.

Two types of meteorologist in the world. Those who don't know what the weather will be like and those who don't know that they don't know what the weather will be like.

The Irish weather is like supporting Armagh, things seem that they will be good or bad, but you never know what will happen on the day.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Gaelic Football - Rules & ...

Last post by weareros - Today at 02:04:52 PM

And how is the fouled player to know he has an advantage? eyes in the back of his head?
It's a totally idiotic advantage rule when you can lose the advantage inside 4 seconds.

If a player does happen to notice that he has the advantage, can he stop play and say, 'thanks ref but I want the free kick not the so called advantage'?

No, he has to 'honestly' play on and make the ref call it that no advantage is being gained.

I think a ref would give the free in the case of getting bottled up, as it would be clear no advantage is being gained at the start of the bottling up.

It's where the attacking player overcarries for no ones fault but their own that a foul would be called.

Thanks,  are you saying if the ref plays advantage but subsequently the player gets caught in a swarm and holds onto the ball too long, the ref would generally call the play back for the advantage as you alluded to?

But that in the event of the player committing a technical foul on his own accord (too many steps), the ref will generally call the foul against the player?

Refs rarely penalise steps when advantage is given. Tommy Conroy was given an advantage in the 1st half yesterday, proceeded to take way too many steps. Gough stopped play and gave original free to Mayo, which they pointed.