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screenexile

Hopefully he's sold out the DUP!!

maddog

Quote from: screenexile on October 10, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Hopefully he's sold out the DUP!!

Are the words "unionist fury" just around the corner ?

Rossfan

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Quote from: screenexile on October 10, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Hopefully he's sold out the DUP!!
To look after the 56%

Edit - I hear Bercow on Late Late Friday night.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

omaghjoe

Is this all not typical of BoJo tho.
Appear to be leaning one way, then the other.

Fact is his support base is now the the ERG and co... so when he goes back to Downing St and is talking to Cummings et al he will be back on to the hard Brexit line..... prob all for someone to make money on the swings on the pound.... or maybe its just Boris getting caught up in the mood of the company that he is in at any one time.

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 10, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Is this all not typical of BoJo tho.
Appear to be leaning one way, then the other.

Fact is his support base is now the the ERG and co... so when he goes back to Downing St and is talking to Cummings et al he will be back on to the hard Brexit line..... prob all for someone to make money on the swings on the pound.... or maybe its just Boris getting caught up in the mood of the company that he is in at any one time.

And feeling them up under the table, while he's getting 'caught up'.

mouview

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 10, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Is this all not typical of BoJo tho.
Appear to be leaning one way, then the other.

Fact is his support base is now the the ERG and co... so when he goes back to Downing St and is talking to Cummings et al he will be back on to the hard Brexit line..... prob all for someone to make money on the swings on the pound.... or maybe its just Boris getting caught up in the mood of the company that he is in at any one time.

Supposedly some cabinet ministers close to giving Bojo an ultimatum to ship Cummings out.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: maddog on October 10, 2019, 04:26:19 PM
Quote from: screenexile on October 10, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
Hopefully he's sold out the DUP!!

Are the words "unionist fury" just around the corner ?

Of course. There'll be a U-turn in the morning after Snarlene gives BoJo a good talking to.

omaghjoe

Quote from: mouview on October 11, 2019, 12:01:32 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 10, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Is this all not typical of BoJo tho.
Appear to be leaning one way, then the other.

Fact is his support base is now the the ERG and co... so when he goes back to Downing St and is talking to Cummings et al he will be back on to the hard Brexit line..... prob all for someone to make money on the swings on the pound.... or maybe its just Boris getting caught up in the mood of the company that he is in at any one time.

Supposedly some cabinet ministers close to giving Bojo an ultimatum to ship Cummings out.

Aye Nicky Morgan, Cox etc.... but sure hes only trying to keep things half middling together.
Sounds of things he caved for Leo on something big... most likely NI... so hows he gonna sell that to the rest of his right wing cabinet and a healthy portion of his MPs? He cant...

Only way he can get this thru is with Jeremy Corbyns support as he will need  prob most Labour MPs to back it considering he will have lost the DUP the ERG, no way the LDs will vote for any type of Brexit, likewise SNP unless he includes Scotland in whatever NI gets not to mention the various MPs that left or got booted out of the party....cant see either of those happening.

Basically any deal he comes up with is gonna be in the same boat as May's deal.

By this time next week I dare say this chunk of light will be fairly well extinguished but he may keep it floating around as an excuse for an extension.

Eamonnca1

Betting markets latest:

No deal Brexit in 2019: 9/2
Either withdrawal agreement ratified, Article 50 extended beyond 2019, or Article 50 revoked: 1/7

2nd EU referendum before 2020:
No: 1/100
Yes: 20/1

I'd say an extension of Article 50 is the most likely scenario here.

Rossfan

I suspect Bozo wants to have a good excuse for extending Art 50.
So "we're nearly there, need more time to finalise...."

6 Cos arrangements to be put to a Plebiscite?
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

johnnycool

Quote from: omaghjoe on October 11, 2019, 04:45:27 AM
Quote from: mouview on October 11, 2019, 12:01:32 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on October 10, 2019, 04:48:09 PM
Is this all not typical of BoJo tho.
Appear to be leaning one way, then the other.

Fact is his support base is now the the ERG and co... so when he goes back to Downing St and is talking to Cummings et al he will be back on to the hard Brexit line..... prob all for someone to make money on the swings on the pound.... or maybe its just Boris getting caught up in the mood of the company that he is in at any one time.

Supposedly some cabinet ministers close to giving Bojo an ultimatum to ship Cummings out.

Aye Nicky Morgan, Cox etc.... but sure hes only trying to keep things half middling together.
Sounds of things he caved for Leo on something big... most likely NI... so hows he gonna sell that to the rest of his right wing cabinet and a healthy portion of his MPs? He cant...

Only way he can get this thru is with Jeremy Corbyns support as he will need  prob most Labour MPs to back it considering he will have lost the DUP the ERG, no way the LDs will vote for any type of Brexit, likewise SNP unless he includes Scotland in whatever NI gets not to mention the various MPs that left or got booted out of the party....cant see either of those happening.

Basically any deal he comes up with is gonna be in the same boat as May's deal.

By this time next week I dare say this chunk of light will be fairly well extinguished but he may keep it floating around as an excuse for an extension.

If Boris comes back with some modification on the customs alignment that doesn't mean checks at the border and meets Leo's and the EU's requirements then he'll be heavily reliant on a large body of Labour MP's to get it over the line and he just might get it.

There were enough soundings about bringing back Mays deal for a fourth time as you get the impression the body of both the Tories and Labour want this out of the way with as little economic impact as possible.

An Watcher

Are the DUP finally getting thrown under the bus? About time

imtommygunn

I wouldn't be too sure just yet. Never trust Boris...

Dougal Maguire

I think Labour are in some diffs. A lot of their MPs represent constituencies that voted leave. If they scupper Bozo's plan to get out by 31 October they'll get hammered at the polls.
Careful now

armaghniac

Quote from: Dougal Maguire on October 11, 2019, 09:20:33 PM
I think Labour are in some diffs. A lot of their MPs represent constituencies that voted leave. If they scupper Bozo's plan to get out by 31 October they'll get hammered at the polls.

They can hardly leave in an orderly way by 31 October at this stage, they'll need an extension, there isn't time to pass all the legislation.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B