Just a quick survey and pure nosiness. Was your club formed by a split from another club?
Club name Parent Club Year of Split Reason
===================================
Errigal Ciaran St Ciarans 1990 ?
Corrinshego Carrickcruppin 1982 ?
Was it not Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen?
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2017, 09:07:17 PM
Was it not Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen?
Yes. My mistake. Over a security related issue?
Clan na Gael - St Pauls
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Quote from: LeoMc on October 03, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Storm Dessie perhaps? ;D
Seriously though, who were Windmill?
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 03, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Storm Dessie perhaps? ;D
Seriously though, who were Windmill?
Windmill were a loughshore team between Moortown, Ballinderry and Coagh area. Had adult teams for a fairly long period and had a very good youth team in late 80's/early 90's but not sure why it never lasted. I assume players went to Moortown or to Ballinderry but maybe someone else could clarify.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/tyronetribulations.com/2013/05/22/terror-in-tyrone-as-windmill-gfc-plan-to-reform/amp/
Pearse Ogs formed out of Armagh Harps. Naoimh Brid were another Armagh City (junior) team for a while in the 80s.
Carrickcruppen spawned Geraldines in Armagh as well?
Quote from: Mikhailov on October 03, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 03, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Storm Dessie perhaps? ;D
Seriously though, who were Windmill?
Windmill were a loughshore team between Moortown, Ballinderry and Coagh area. Had adult teams for a fairly long period and had a very good youth team in late 80's/early 90's but not sure why it never lasted. I assume players went to Moortown or to Ballinderry but maybe someone else could clarify.
Who are the club just outside Coagh on the road to Cookstown then?
Killean had a previous club about a zillion years ago as did Dorsey but their modern incarnations came from killeavy and cullyhanna respectively. Dorsey going strong but think Killean kicked the bucket again
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 11:18:59 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on October 03, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 03, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Storm Dessie perhaps? ;D
Seriously though, who were Windmill?
Windmill were a loughshore team between Moortown, Ballinderry and Coagh area. Had adult teams for a fairly long period and had a very good youth team in late 80's/early 90's but not sure why it never lasted. I assume players went to Moortown or to Ballinderry but maybe someone else could clarify.
Who are the club just outside Coagh on the road to Cookstown then?
Ogra colmcille
Tourlestrane split from Tubbercurry in 1956 ish...
Main reason was its a separate parish and we felt we had enough people to form our own team.
This has worked out well..
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 11:18:59 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on October 03, 2017, 09:36:02 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 03, 2017, 09:30:26 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 03, 2017, 09:19:57 PM
Errigal Ciaran was not strictly a split, more a split / merge.
St Malachys split from St Ciarans and they merged as Errigal Ciaran.
Donemanagh and Aughabrack merged to form Clann naGael.
Not sure where Windmill went to.
Storm Dessie perhaps? ;D
Seriously though, who were Windmill?
Windmill were a loughshore team between Moortown, Ballinderry and Coagh area. Had adult teams for a fairly long period and had a very good youth team in late 80's/early 90's but not sure why it never lasted. I assume players went to Moortown or to Ballinderry but maybe someone else could clarify.
Who are the club just outside Coagh on the road to Cookstown then?
That's Ógra Colmcille in Drummullan - they play in the Derry league
Whats the name of those 2 clubs in Laois that split about 20 years ago? There's a thread on here somewhere about it, there's a lot of hatred from memory.
St Johns ballaghdereen Co Roscommon 1989
oh forgot they werent allowed form and play in their native county
Quote from: Orior on October 03, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2017, 09:07:17 PM
Was it not Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen?
Yes. My mistake. Over a security related issue?
when I was a kid Cruppen were the only senior team in the area, indeed 5 championship finals in a row 77-82
corrinshego set up by Gerry Oreilly and a few( he had been a full back on the cruppen team
poynpass then were set up( the Canavans who played with the county were from poyntspass
Shane O Neills were around in the 60s then were set up again in the 80s with regard to a fall out etc
geraldines were set up as cruppen were not allowed to put a second team in the league, it was blocked by cross ( who funnily enough have a second team now that St Johns who were set up in cross in the 80s disbanded) It fell away when cruppen began struggling for numbers
all the clubs save for the pass are doing ok at senior,
its underage which will eventually catch up with them
Did Newbridge (Derry) split in two to form Newbridge and Ballymaguigan? Could be wrong but I heard that it was due to the outbreak of WW2 making it hard for players from the Ballymaguigan side to reach the pitch?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on October 04, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
Whats the name of those 2 clubs in Laois that split about 20 years ago? There's a thread on here somewhere about it, there's a lot of hatred from memory.
Arles/Killeen and Arles/Kilcruise.
We had a split in Owenmore Gaels in 1997 when Ballisodare reformed their club after about 30 years together, which lasted to 2010. They don't field any more and their lads play with us these days. St. Michael's split away from Shamrock Gaels in 1983, and Cloonacool from Tubbercurry in the late 70's.
Wildmill (Coagh county tryone) formed with Littlebridge (drummullan county derry) to get Ogra Colncille but split off again mid 80's to form Windmill again for a short timek
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 04, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
Wildmill (Coagh county tryone) formed with Littlebridge (drummullan county derry) to get Ogra Colncille but split off again mid 80's to form Windmill again for a short timek
Must be wile twisted around there.
The border I mean.
Quote from: LeoMc on October 04, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 04, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
Wildmill (Coagh county tryone) formed with Littlebridge (drummullan county derry) to get Ogra Colncille but split off again mid 80's to form Windmill again for a short timek
Must be wile twisted around there.
The border I mean.
Windmill should be booming now with the amount of wind farms in Tyrone. They play in white, blustery days suit them.
Quote from: Aaron Boone on October 04, 2017, 04:58:17 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 04, 2017, 03:39:41 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 04, 2017, 02:13:11 PM
Wildmill (Coagh county tryone) formed with Littlebridge (drummullan county derry) to get Ogra Colncille but split off again mid 80's to form Windmill again for a short timek
Must be wile twisted around there.
The border I mean.
Windmill should be booming now with the amount of wind farms in Tyrone. They play in white, blustery days suit them.
Maybe that's why Tyrone men are always falling down looking frees. They're used to being blown over by them windmills.
Ogra and Ballinderry be 2 parishs both in derry and tyrone
Quote from: BennyCake on October 04, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Maybe that's why Tyrone men are always falling down looking frees. They're used to being blown over by them windmills.
That's not how they work ... must try harder ::)
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 04, 2017, 02:03:27 PM
Did Newbridge (Derry) split in two to form Newbridge and Ballymaguigan? Could be wrong but I heard that it was due to the outbreak of WW2 making it hard for players from the Ballymaguigan side to reach the pitch?
Not 100% sure but had heard in the past something similar , with the airfield in ww2 causing logistical problems.
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2017, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 04, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Maybe that's why Tyrone men are always falling down looking frees. They're used to being blown over by them windmills.
That's not how they work ... must try harder ::)
Come on, play the game, skull ;)
Quote from: BennyCake on October 04, 2017, 10:25:29 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 04, 2017, 06:55:15 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 04, 2017, 05:00:56 PM
Maybe that's why Tyrone men are always falling down looking frees. They're used to being blown over by them windmills.
That's not how they work ... must try harder ::)
Come on, play the game, skull ;)
You're asking me to cheat .... like a Tyrone man :)
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 04, 2017, 05:52:10 PM
Ogra and Ballinderry be 2 parishs both in derry and tyrone
And not the only 2 in the county
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Bloody hell is Carney a Donegal man!! Never knew that :-X :-X
Pretty sure he was on their team of the Millenium
The head on him here hahaha
(https://ssl.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000p_.csf4c2u0/fit=1000x750/22-08-1972-AISFSF103.jpg)
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
There was a book done some years back on the club championship there which I think said that the county convention had voted not to allow amalgamations in the SFC any more around 78/79, so the two clubs went their separate ways.
Quote from: naka on October 04, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 03, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2017, 09:07:17 PM
Was it not Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen?
Yes. My mistake. Over a security related issue?
when I was a kid Cruppen were the only senior team in the area, indeed 5 championship finals in a row 77-82
corrinshego set up by Gerry Oreilly and a few( he had been a full back on the cruppen team
poynpass then were set up( the Canavans who played with the county were from poyntspass
Shane O Neills were around in the 60s then were set up again in the 80s with regard to a fall out etc
geraldines were set up as cruppen were not allowed to put a second team in the league, it was blocked by cross ( who funnily enough have a second team now that St Johns who were set up in cross in the 80s disbanded) It fell away when cruppen began struggling for numbers
all the clubs save for the pass are doing ok at senior,
its underage which will eventually catch up with them
I remember Cruppen's set dancing team in the 80s in the Scór. They were hard to beat.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 05, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
Quote from: naka on October 04, 2017, 02:03:08 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 03, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2017, 09:07:17 PM
Was it not Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen?
Yes. My mistake. Over a security related issue?
when I was a kid Cruppen were the only senior team in the area, indeed 5 championship finals in a row 77-82
corrinshego set up by Gerry Oreilly and a few( he had been a full back on the cruppen team
poynpass then were set up( the Canavans who played with the county were from poyntspass
Shane O Neills were around in the 60s then were set up again in the 80s with regard to a fall out etc
geraldines were set up as cruppen were not allowed to put a second team in the league, it was blocked by cross ( who funnily enough have a second team now that St Johns who were set up in cross in the 80s disbanded) It fell away when cruppen began struggling for numbers
all the clubs save for the pass are doing ok at senior,
its underage which will eventually catch up with them
I remember Cruppen's set dancing team in the 80s in the Scór. They were hard to beat.
Decent ballad group also, iirc.
St Brigid's Castleknock and in Dublin
Two big clubs
Timely one from Leitrim - Leitrim Gaels was a split out from Allen Gaels (Drumshanbo) and St Mary's (Carrick) about 20 years ago. They have slowly come up the ranks and are in the Interemdiate final this Sunday.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 05, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Bloody hell is Carney a Donegal man!! Never knew that :-X :-X
Ballyshannon man.
His brother, a priest, was principal of St Eunan's College for years. I'm assuming Carney himself moved to and played for Mayo due to work?
Quote from: Owenmoresider on October 05, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
There was a book done some years back on the club championship there which I think said that the county convention had voted not to allow amalgamations in the SFC any more around 78/79, so the two clubs went their separate ways.
So I'm assuming their "super club" dominance was the reason for this action?
Quote from: J70 on October 06, 2017, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 05, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Bloody hell is Carney a Donegal man!! Never knew that :-X :-X
Ballyshannon man.
His brother, a priest, was principal of St Eunan's College for years. I'm assuming Carney himself moved to and played for Mayo due to work?
Jackie Carney was either his Grandfather or Uncle and was an All Ireland winner with Mayo in 1936 and trainer of the All Ireland winning 50/51 teams.
In a sense Martin came home.
Quote from: stephenite on October 06, 2017, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: J70 on October 06, 2017, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 05, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Bloody hell is Carney a Donegal man!! Never knew that :-X :-X
Ballyshannon man.
His brother, a priest, was principal of St Eunan's College for years. I'm assuming Carney himself moved to and played for Mayo due to work?
Jackie Carney was either his Grandfather or Uncle and was an All Ireland winner with Mayo in 1936 and trainer of the All Ireland winning 50/51 teams.
In a sense Martin came home.
Some of his Midwest radio commentary
https://youtu.be/lEp1NZwD1Gg
Quote from: PW Nally on October 06, 2017, 11:13:48 AM
Quote from: stephenite on October 06, 2017, 11:04:50 AM
Quote from: J70 on October 06, 2017, 10:54:41 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on October 05, 2017, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 05, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Bundoran and Aodh Rua were formed when St. Joseph's split in the late 70s (Joseph's formed, in turn, from an amalgamation in the early 60s).
St Joseph's won an Ulster club back in the mid-70s and the first two "unofficial" ones in the late 60s. Not bad for 15 years or so of existence! Not sure if their dominance is why they split (7 Donegal senior championships in 11 years and 4 in a row before they split up again)
McEniff and Martin Carney would be their best known players.
Bloody hell is Carney a Donegal man!! Never knew that :-X :-X
Ballyshannon man.
His brother, a priest, was principal of St Eunan's College for years. I'm assuming Carney himself moved to and played for Mayo due to work?
Jackie Carney was either his Grandfather or Uncle and was an All Ireland winner with Mayo in 1936 and trainer of the All Ireland winning 50/51 teams.
In a sense Martin came home.
Some of his Midwest radio commentary
https://youtu.be/lEp1NZwD1Gg
WTF?? ;D ;D
Midwest radio is the place for his commentary in fairness. Terrible.
In Dublin I can think of Ballymun Kickhams and Na Fianna, Ballyboden St. Endas and Ballyboden Wanderers for starters.
Garrycastle came out of Athlone
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 10, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
Garrycastle came out of Athlone
Then there's the St Brigid's debacle
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 10, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
Garrycastle came out of Athlone
Garrycastle had actually formed prior to the Athlone split. They weren't making much inroads though, and may well have fallen apart. The Athlone incident led to an injection of influential men in to Garrycastle, such as Des Dolan.
I remember half time a the county final, about 2008 I reckon, and Athlone were the 25 year team getting commemorated. There were only about 6 former players on the field.
Quote from: shark on October 10, 2017, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on October 10, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
Garrycastle came out of Athlone
Garrycastle had actually formed prior to the Athlone split. They weren't making much inroads though, and may well have fallen apart. The Athlone incident led to an injection of influential men in to Garrycastle, such as Des Dolan.
I remember half time a the county final, about 2008 I reckon, and Athlone were the 25 year team getting commemorated. There were only about 6 former players on the field.
What was the Athlone incident you refer of?
Was St Johns (Belfast) not formed when they split from Rossa?
Quote from: Tyrdub on October 11, 2017, 01:28:55 PM
Was St Johns (Belfast) not formed when they split from Rossa?
Oh!!!! but who owns the song?
Dripsey in Cork, is a very new club having only formed in 2004. It was as a result of a split in the Inniscarra club. Dripsey went on to win the County and Munster Junior hurling in 2008. There is a serious battle for "hearts and minds" around there now as they are in the same parish and neighbours, cousins, friends often end up playing on opposing sides.
Down in South Kerry, the famous Dromid Pearses (Jack O'Connor, Declan O'Sullivan) would be in the same parish as Waterville and despite forming in the 40s, they disbanded for a long time again, with players from the area lining out with Waterville. They setup again themselves in the 70s I think and in the last 25 years or so, Dromid have solidified and despite operating off "the slopes of a few mountains" as a club member said to me, they have a good pitch and field decent teams, despite the low numbers all over South Kerry.
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on October 11, 2017, 03:36:19 PM
Dripsey in Cork, is a very new club having only formed in 2004. It was as a result of a split in the Inniscarra club. Dripsey went on to win the County and Munster Junior hurling in 2008. There is a serious battle for "hearts and minds" around there now as they are in the same parish and neighbours, cousins, friends often end up playing on opposing sides.
Down in South Kerry, the famous Dromid Pearses (Jack O'Connor, Declan O'Sullivan) would be in the same parish as Waterville and despite forming in the 40s, they disbanded for a long time again, with players from the area lining out with Waterville. They setup again themselves in the 70s I think and in the last 25 years or so, Dromid have solidified and despite operating off "the slopes of a few mountains" as a club member said to me, they have a good pitch and field decent teams, despite the low numbers all over South Kerry.
Dromid would be with Waterville in all underage competitions, but they are holding their own at adult level alright. They field 2 teams I think at Adult level. They are back in the premier Junior Final too, and looking to get back into Munster.