The hurling championship needs two good semi finals
There hasn't been a real top quality game all year that went down to the last 10 minutes
I fancy Waterford to give Kilkenny plenty of it in Sunday and maybe play a bit more off the cuff than they have all year. The overly defensive gameplan was found out v Tipp who caught the ball and handpassed past the cover. Kilkenny are even better at this aspect of gameplay.
Kilkenny by 2 or 3 is my prediction
Yawn! Tipp/KK final!
Quote from: Thy Kingdom Come on August 04, 2016, 01:00:30 AM
Yawn! Tipp/KK final!
Hopefully . There will be a decent final .
Waterford haven't the personnel to play man to man up front and appear totally dependent on their current system of play which they now know isn't going to get you all Ireland's. Tough decision for them as squad to know how best to play it. Also think they'll play up the pitch a bit but it'll cost them. KK by 12
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 04, 2016, 12:17:11 AM
The hurling championship needs two good semi finals
There hasn't been a real top quality game all year that went down to the last 10 minutes
I fancy Waterford to give Kilkenny plenty of it in Sunday and maybe play a bit more off the cuff than they have all year. The overly defensive gameplan was found out v Tipp who caught the ball and handpassed past the cover. Kilkenny are even better at this aspect of gameplay.
Kilkenny by 2 or 3 is my prediction
I don't think Tipp's handpassing was the key. I think what they did was tried to attack the sweeper directly at times, and then switched play up with diagonal balls other times. The amount of times they pucked the ball in directly at de Burca, but high, and got players around him, was stark. They basically negated his ability to 'sweep' and they knew this was the plan, so all the other forwards were immediately moving to pick up a break, or to take a pass if Tipp won it clean.
Waterford gave away 2 soft goals in Munster final and the players were like rabbits in headlights . Also they were facing a strong wind in second half. It seemed to me that the players had such belief in "the system" they were shocked when it malfunctioned due to individual errors .
There is no way "the system" will beat Kk on Sunday . Waterford need a respectable result and to win u21 AI now .
At the end of the day, systems just put players in positions. They still have to be able to play the game in those positions. Systems are just tactics, players need to carry them out and execute the skills of the game.
Easy wins for KK and Tipp again methinks. Waterford might but it up for half an hour or so but KK will just step it up like they always do. Galway will make it interesting but to be honest I still fancy Tipp by 7/8.
Galway have a great record v Tipp recently in semi finals
Think Waterford can put it up to Kilkenny. I expect it to be closer than many seem to be predicting.
Quote from: Zulu on August 05, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
Think Waterford can put it up to Kilkenny. I expect it to be closer than many seem to be predicting.
Bookies are giving it -5 for Kilkenny ...purely based on their recent games I can't see Waterford beating that handicap
Hogan is some operator.
Sometimes hard to work out what constitutes a foul in hurling.
Good game though.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 03:50:26 PM
Hogan is some operator.
Sometimes hard to work out what constitutes a foul in hurling.
Good game though.
Deserved a red
Clear strike
Decent game but Kk forwards starting to make space .
Be great to see watrford win but with kilkenny in tight games, especially in the first half, there just seems a certain inevitability. Hopefully i'm wrong. A waterford galway final would be good.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 07, 2016, 04:18:02 PM
Be great to see watrford win but with kilkenny in tight games, especially in the first half, there just seems a certain inevitability. Hopefully i'm wrong. A waterford galway final would be good.
Waterford butchered their goal chance, Kilkenny won't
Great stuff from the Déise if they can keep going
Bad misses here from Waterford will probably cost them
The cats are like late vintage Fergie Man Utd.
Some game
Waterford left it behind them.
Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Some game
Waterford left it behind them.
looked like a serious amount of steps taken for the goal
And the winners are the GAA and Kilkenny. Losers, everybody else!
Wow!! Unreal... Fair fecks to both teams fir giving us a cracking game... They are dead on their feet!!
Fennelly ran straight into three defenders like a rugby player and then laid it off to the other panzer Walter to score.
All John Power did all day was run into lads looking for frees
Super Waterford performance. Didn't think they had that in them at all. Can't see them winning replay though.
fearsome game between 2 teams going full till, hurling at its best, Waterford outstanding, Kilkenny good too though not at the height of the 4 in a row team, had a number of panicked misses before the goal. Football cries out for stuff like this
Quote from: Minder on August 07, 2016, 05:20:27 PM
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Quote from: laoislad on August 07, 2016, 05:05:08 PM
Some game
Waterford left it behind them.
looked like a serious amount of steps taken for the goal
I counted 9
Could have been a foul and advantage given with extra steps, loads of extra steps taken in games now.... Needs to be reviewed and new measures taken ...
When are where is the replay ?
Quote from: stiffler on August 07, 2016, 06:21:59 PM
When are where is the replay ?
Thurles. Next Saturday at 6.45
Déise are much improved on the sacred munster final.
Why not a double header in croker next Sunday. Seems a bit of a wasted opportunity?
Quote from: del_carroll on August 07, 2016, 10:32:53 PM
Why not a double header in croker next Sunday. Seems a bit of a wasted opportunity?
Not really. Thurles will be hopping. Great venue for it imo.
Where can a neutral get tickets for Saturday's replay does anyone know? Thanks in advance.
By the way I can't remember who I was talking to about this, but yesterday was another example of Hawkeye buzzing down to overrule an incorrect umpires decision so I think that puts that topic to bed.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 09:01:22 PM
By the way I can't remember who I was talking to about this, but yesterday was another example of Hawkeye buzzing down to overrule an incorrect umpires decision so I think that puts that topic to bed.
Antrim v Meath final... When it happen I thought the same
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 08, 2016, 09:22:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 08, 2016, 09:01:22 PM
By the way I can't remember who I was talking to about this, but yesterday was another example of Hawkeye buzzing down to overrule an incorrect umpires decision so I think that puts that topic to bed.
Antrim v Meath final... When it happen I thought the same
Yeah Hawkeye is in use for every score, regardless of ref asking for it
I know that. That was my point back then and there was some doubt or disagreement.
Two semi finals this coming weekend!
Have to go for Kilkenny again. Very rarely do they let a team dominate a replay.
Galway v Tipp is hard to call. Galway played well the last day and Tipp beat a non functioning Waterford team. I'm going to go for Galway
Looking forward to Thurles, saw the drawn league final there hopefully Waterford haven't wasted their chance, the two camogie matches should be good too, can't wait.
Hope to God that Waterford finish the job this time, although I have my doubts. So many times teams have had the Cats on the ropes and they don't finish them off. You get weary of seeing teams lose their nerve so close to the finish line.
Waterford vs Galway final would be a nice change.
Quote from: thejuice on August 09, 2016, 11:17:49 PM
Hope to God that Waterford finish the job this time, although I have my doubts. So many times teams have had the Cats on the ropes and they don't finish them off. You get weary of seeing teams lose their nerve so close to the finish line.
Waterford vs Galway final would be a nice change.
Its all about who recovers the quickest, the younger Waterford lads or the older Kilkenny lads!! And which manager is going to learn the most from the last game... Will TJ and Hogan have as bad a games again?
Quote from: qwerty123 on August 08, 2016, 01:58:17 PM
Where can a neutral get tickets for Saturday's replay does anyone know? Thanks in advance.
You can get them from tickets.ie or Supervalu or Centra supermarkets.
Great game last Sunday and looked like we were finally going to beat Kilkenny. Some wides in last 10 minutes cost us as even 1 more point would probably have been enough and a well worked Walter Walsh goal saved the Cats. Great point from Fogarty in fairness to level it too. Waterford fans disappointed at end but hopefully we haven't missed our chance and last Sunday gives them the confidence to know they can do it.
I hope that Waterford can finish the job. they put in a great shift the last day. A goal or two today might do it.
TTpp must be favourites after the Munster final but Galway are improving
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Tipp look to be the form team at present and they have a good FB line and a much-improved midfield. Forwards are free-scoring if given space but the HF line mightn't be as good as perceived where the presence of Bonnar Maher is always reassuring for opponents. Galway's HF line isn't the strongest either - failures and inconsistency here cost them mostly in the Leinster final. Mgmt. have rectified some of the problems from then by bringing Coen to midfield and dropping Niall Burke. However questions remain about the form and - again - consistency of a lot of Galway's forwards, Whelan, C Mannion, Flynn, C Cooney; will there ever be a full 70 minutes in Joseph Cooney and will rookies Tuohy and McInerney be found wanting as they step up again? Galway's bench could be worse where the right noises are being made about Tan's return from injury.
Think one of the outsiders will win this weekend but unfortunately it's more likely to be Waterford :-(
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Tipp look to be the form team at present and they have a good FB line and a much-improved midfield. Forwards are free-scoring if given space but the HF line mightn't be as good as perceived where the presence of Bonnar Maher is always reassuring for opponents. Galway's HF line isn't the strongest either - failures and inconsistency here cost them mostly in the Leinster final. Mgmt. have rectified some of the problems from then by bringing Coen to midfield and dropping Niall Burke. However questions remain about the form and - again - consistency of a lot of Galway's forwards, Whelan, C Mannion, Flynn, C Cooney; will there ever be a full 70 minutes in Joseph Cooney and will rookies Tuohy and McInerney be found wanting as they step up again? Galway's bench could be worse where the right noises are being made about Tan's return from injury.
Think one of the outsiders will win this weekend but unfortunately it's more likely to be Waterford :-(
That is like late Fergie Man U. They won the title because of psychology.
Last week they never managed the second half intensity push. If Waterford score a goal at the right time they could do it.
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Delighted someone else has spotted the lack of hurling in J Power, W Walsh and C Fennelly. Their job is to bulldoze through defenders and lay off the ball to a finisher.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 12, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Delighted someone else has spotted the lack of hurling in J Power, W Walsh and C Fennelly. Their job is to bulldoze through defenders and lay off the ball to a finisher.
Kieran Joyce was also all at sea, I'm surprised at him retaining a start, presume big Lennon is injured as to why he didn't feature.
Still wouldn't bet against the hoors though
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 12, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Delighted someone else has spotted the lack of hurling in J Power, W Walsh and C Fennelly. Their job is to bulldoze through defenders and lay off the ball to a finisher.
God knows how many finals they have won between them, throw in your all stars and hurler of the year awards and young hurler of the year awards..... Hmmm rubbish
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2016, 12:38:22 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 12, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Delighted someone else has spotted the lack of hurling in J Power, W Walsh and C Fennelly. Their job is to bulldoze through defenders and lay off the ball to a finisher.
God knows how many finals they have won between them, throw in your all stars and hurler of the year awards and young hurler of the year awards..... Hmmm rubbish
Where was rubbish mentioned?
They have a specific role on the team - win ball, run directly, draw in defenders lay off ball to a finisher.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 13, 2016, 09:51:29 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2016, 12:38:22 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 12, 2016, 09:26:54 PM
Quote from: mouview on August 12, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
Maybe it's aspirational, but I do think that a lot of teams approach playing KK with fear and a lack of belief, much to their detriment. Deise had a right go last Sunday and it oh-so nearly got them across the line. No reason again why they can't do the same. Much has rightfully been made about KK's record in replays, but 6 days isn't a lot of time to put right the problems from the drawn game, i.e. Mick Fennelly's legs, the lack of outright hurling ability in Cl Fennelly, J Power, W Walsh among others, the lack of depth on the bench. KK as I've often said are greater than the sum of their parts, but renewed conviction and a goal or two might just do it for the Blaas.
Delighted someone else has spotted the lack of hurling in J Power, W Walsh and C Fennelly. Their job is to bulldoze through defenders and lay off the ball to a finisher.
God knows how many finals they have won between them, throw in your all stars and hurler of the year awards and young hurler of the year awards..... Hmmm rubbish
Where was rubbish mentioned?
They have a specific role on the team - win ball, run directly, draw in defenders lay off ball to a finisher.
Walsh, and Fennelly scored during this game, Walsh getting the game changer... To say that they just draw defenders in and lay off ball is silly, they win their own ball they run at players and shoot, if they easy choice at that moment is to give it to someone in a better position then that's as clever as taking a score, their skill level is as good if not better than most players in the top four teams... They are far from just work horses, or whatever you're trying to describe them
Fennelly is definitely not just that. Walsh is on a bad day. John power maybe is though.
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 13, 2016, 10:57:09 AM
Fennelly is definitely not just that. Walsh is on a bad day. John power maybe is though.
John Power has been on that panel a seriously long time, I'm sure he was player of the year one year also, and that's hard to do while Shefflin was about.... Walsh has changed his game from being that target man, took a great score on the wing last week, not to mention the goal
You're thinking of Richie Power Milltown
Quote from: theskull1 on August 13, 2016, 01:41:02 PM
You're thinking of Richie Power Milltown
Aye... I'm thinking Richie!! My bad... I'll get my coat
Colin Fennelly having a quare different game to last week. Lovely touch from Walsh for the second goal.
Unreal game so far.
Another hard encounter, Waterford were on top for a long time but Kilkenny kept in touch, last 10 mins kilkenny have got on top and its starting to show, 2nd half should be good, first half had some pace to it, with none of the embarrassing stuff with players lying down and sledging which is a regular feature in the football
Rather enjoy Brendan Cummins as a commentator .He has a nice calm demeanor and does not talk for the sake of talking
Quote from: gallsman on August 13, 2016, 06:57:55 PM
Colin Fennelly having a quare different game to last week. Lovely touch from Walsh for the second goal.
Two carthorses' sure
Ref absolutely riding Kilkenny at times here.
A real shame to see that happen Mick Fennelly, looked very nasty. He'd been having a monster of a game.
Quote from: gallsman on August 13, 2016, 08:00:12 PM
Ref absolutely riding Kilkenny at times here.
Some game
That was a free there for Big Maurice there before going down on the ball
some game again!!
Great game.
What an incredible display by both teams.
Heartbroken for Waterford, so many of their players were incredible.
Amazing game. How Kilkenny keep going to the well is beyond me!! Something else and to watch it in Spain with a decent Guinness!! Bring on tomorrow!
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Don't ruin a good post by blaming the ref fs
The worst one was the free given against Liam Blanchfield for an absolutely perfect shoulder. Maurice came and and promptly should have been blown for charging and instead got tap over free.
gutted for waterford.
Agree re Austin Gleeson, I have never seen a player dominate so much in the air ever. Especially against Kilkenny. Every time Austin came down from the clouds with the ball he was completely surrounded. I think Waterford could have given him a little more support in that department. For me Kilkenny utilizing the corners of the pitch and the side lines just give them that wee split second more on the ball. Waterford had to work much harder to get their scores. Credit to both teams but I'm sad to see Waterford gone.
Waterford didn't get Gleeson and Mahoney on the ball enough in second half
Great game though.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Don't ruin a good post by blaming the ref fs
He was brutal MM2. Refs can have bad games too you know.
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 09:47:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 13, 2016, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Don't ruin a good post by blaming the ref fs
He was brutal MM2. Refs can have bad games too you know.
He wouldn't be Cody's first choice to be fair, some calls looked easy but I could pick out 3 easy call by the reg in first half i thought Waterford got easy ... Just from a neutral view and a refs view, and to be fair I would have prefered Waterford to win
Great game with more Kilkenny lads standing up to the challenge than the last day and fair play to Waterford they were in it to the end, hopefully they will get their day in the sun shortly.
On Austin Gleeson, a fantastic talent who was outcatching TJ Reid, no mean task, but his decision making needs to improve for the betterment of the team.
Mick Fennelly was immense and could be a big loss to the cats. Hope it isn't seriously
Football should be banned after watching that game tonight.
:)
Brilliant game of hurling. Hard luck to Waterford. They'll be back.
It looked like a hard game to ref
I actually thought the referee done well enough. Remember the rules are merely only guide lines. There not supposed to be implemented in every play otherwise it would be a game of frees. Thought the referee tried to give advantage when ever he thought he could. Some times you can get lucky "letting it go" otherwise it could get niggly very easy. A lot depends on the players. Ive been turning my hand to refereeing lately and I look at refs in a total different light now. An impossible job. If you get 95% of you're decisions right people will gravitate towards the 5% you didn't get right.
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Great talent alright. Fantastic athlete although he has constant major rushes of blood to the head. Takes on far too many ridiculous shots. Very wasteful at times. That said he's still young.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 14, 2016, 02:30:46 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 13, 2016, 08:39:14 PM
Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Great talent alright. Fantastic athlete although he has constant major rushes of blood to the head. Takes on far too many ridiculous shots. Very wasteful at times. That said he's still young.
Imagine a 21 year old making wrong decisions!!! Fantastic player and he has a great future.
This was an unreal game and both teams played it out the way it should be. Hard, on the edge without any malice. Some great performances but Richie Hogan is a real 'clutch' player. Pulls key scores out of nothing. This was a real 'Cody' performance.
As for the ref I'm not a hurling man but I thought he did ok. He let a lot go in the first half but there was no real dangerous stuff. He maybe favoured Waterford slightly but that happens sometimes. I think he did ok.
The poor Galway minor goalie is having a nightmare today. Tipp have 7 goals scored and a few of the, have been errors. I hope Tipp stop going for goals now.
That is some Tipp minor team
Anyone got a decent live stream. Watching a very pixelated version, not great to spot the sliotar.
Good to get an early goal
thought the rule was side to side now not shoulder to shoulder, dont think that one on canning was neither!!
Quote from: seafoid on August 14, 2016, 03:12:32 PM
That is some Tipp minor team
Class
Centre back v v good
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
thought the rule was side to side now not shoulder to shoulder, dont think that one on canning was neither!!
Yeah that was a foul
Quote from: Minder on August 14, 2016, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
thought the rule was side to side now not shoulder to shoulder, dont think that one on canning was neither!!
Yeah that was a foul
You'd still be proud of that one though
Good man Ger - Joe Canning holding his hamstring and Ger thinks he has a calf injury.
Galway's chance probably popped the same moment Canning's hamstring did.
Does Tipp's back line appear overly physical, have given up a lot of frees so far and one could argue could have been more
Good game this but why oh why do commentary have to persistently tell us what a great game it is. If game that good we will get it. Another "huge one" by Ger Canning.
Quote from: thejuice on August 14, 2016, 04:08:50 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 14, 2016, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 14, 2016, 03:55:21 PM
thought the rule was side to side now not shoulder to shoulder, dont think that one on canning was neither!!
Yeah that was a foul
You'd still be proud of that one though
Same man would ;)
Another cracker
Great aul game, Galway need to settle themselves and get on the ball now after those two goals.
Galway shouldn't be trying to win 50-50s. Keep possession
Wow
Nightmare final in store.
Hurling Is Great™
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2016, 05:04:32 PM
Nightmare final in store.
Hurling Is Great™
Don't be a dick. Hurling is great. Tipp did their best to throw it away with the wides, but they'll be delighted to get through a tough game and not playing very well.
Tipp got out of jail there and will really need to up the intensity for the final. Galway faded badly and had some mad misses and poor touches and decision making in the last ten mins.
Quote from: gallsman on August 14, 2016, 05:07:43 PM
Tipp got out of jail there and will really need to up the intensity for the final. Galway faded badly and had some mad misses and poor touches and decision making in the last ten mins.
Absolutely. But that will stand to them.
Gutted. Although I didn't think we'd do it at half-time when Canning and Tuohy went off injured. Felt we were just about the better side today in general play but margins are so tight if you make a mistake or two. Frees were keeping Tipp in touch for a long time in the game. Bad error from Hanbury for the first Tipp goal when he misjudged the flight of the ball and missed it. First time all game Tipp managed to get in behind our defence and they really needed a goal at that point. Cathal Mannion could have tapped over his handy point and we'd be looking at a replay. Tight margins in games like that. Just like last year's game.
Disappointing but there was nothing in it. Best post all ireland final season in a long time. Will be there or thereabouts for the next 5 years.
The mol an óige agus tiocfaidh sí policy that Cunningham started is building consistency. They have to work on the fade outs in the last 10 minutes too. But it is way better than 2006-11.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 14, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2016, 05:04:32 PM
Nightmare final in store.
Hurling Is Great™
Don't be a dick. Hurling is great. Tipp did their best to throw it away with the wides, but they'll be delighted to get through a tough game and not playing very well.
They played as well as they were let play - GalwY should have won that, the 2 injuries before HT and especially JC were crucial.
Kilkenny beat Waterford and Galway to get to the final.
Tipperary beat Waterford and Galway to get to the final.
Galway defence was poor at the start throughout - so many aimless passes out of the defence.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 14, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Galway defence was poor at the start throughout - so many aimless passes out of the defence.
I thought the defence were pretty decent to be honest. The failure of a few forwards to win primary possession was more of an issue as the game played out.
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 14, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Galway defence was poor at the start throughout - so many aimless passes out of the defence.
The Galway midfield was all at sea for first fifteen minutes . Thought after that Galway were far better and should have won . It Galway folk were told this morning that seam us callinan would be held they would have expected to win .
Today's game was not as good as last nights imho .
I don't see how Galway "should" have won. I can see they "could" have won but to me it was a game that both sides dominated at different times. Tipp hit some woeful, unusual wides but Galway had chances too. Galway mopped up around the middle for long periods but then Tipp did the same and Tipps defence was well on top for long stretches of the second half.
A game between two well matched sides that either could have won and Tipp just about held on despite criminal shooting in the last 5 minutes.
That's a good Galway team and I think its a good Tipp team too. I think they'll give Kilkenny their fill of it.
Don't think Galway can have any complaints with the result to be honest.
Could have gone either way but Tipp grabbed it in the crucial last 10 minutes when it was there for the taking.
I knew Callanan would be quietened if they put Daithi Burke on him.
A real warrior.
I have a feeling Tipp will win the final now.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 14, 2016, 08:38:15 PM
I don't see how Galway "should" have won. I can see they "could" have won but to me it was a game that both sides dominated at different times. Tipp hit some woeful, unusual wides but Galway had chances too. Galway mopped up around the middle for long periods but then Tipp did the same and Tipps defence was well on top for long stretches of the second half.
A game between two well matched sides that either could have won and Tipp just about held on despite criminal shooting in the last 5 minutes.
That's a good Galway team and I think its a good Tipp team too. I think they'll give Kilkenny their fill of it.
+1 a good summation I think Az
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on August 14, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 14, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Galway defence was poor at the start throughout - so many aimless passes out of the defence.
I thought the defence were pretty decent to be honest. The failure of a few forwards to win primary possession was more of an issue as the game played out.
Thought the Galway backs were on top of their men generally. Just made two mistakes for the two Tipp goals. First was Hanbury getting out in front of his man but then completely missing the ball. Allowed Tipp in behind us for the first time in the entire game. Then for the second goal too many defenders were drawn towards Callanan and he could handpass the ball to a free man running in on goal. For long spells Tipp were really surviving on frees and points from their midfielders.
Galway backs have been very good this year. If anything the forwards have misfired compared to last year. Flynn, Mannion and Whelan's form has been up and down. All young men in fairness. Glynn is in the US. Conor Cooney has been good since he came back and Joseph Cooney has been a revelation considering I thought he wouldn't make it as an intercounty hurler.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 14, 2016, 08:43:34 PM
Quote from: GaillimhIarthair on August 14, 2016, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on August 14, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Galway defence was poor at the start throughout - so many aimless passes out of the defence.
I thought the defence were pretty decent to be honest. The failure of a few forwards to win primary possession was more of an issue as the game played out.
Thought the Galway backs were on top of their men generally. Just made two mistakes for the two Tipp goals. First was Hanbury getting out in front of his man but then completely missing the ball. Allowed Tipp in behind us for the first time in the entire game. Then for the second goal too many defenders were drawn towards Callanan and he could handpass the ball to a free man running in on goal. For long spells Tipp were really surviving on frees and points from their midfielders.
Galway backs have been very good this year. If anything the forwards have misfired compared to last year. Flynn, Mannion and Whelan's form has been up and down. All young men in fairness. Glynn is in the US. Conor Cooney has been good since he came back and Joseph Cooney has been a revelation considering I thought he wouldn't make it as an intercounty hurler.
Yeah, the first goal looked awful soft, maybe it was well worked but Callinan was beaten from a tight angle from I could see from my spot in the Cusack. I thought Gearoid Mac and Daithi were excellent through out. In fairness they are 2 very evenly matched teams and I would expect Tipp to give the Cat a fair rattle in 3 weeks time, could very well win it too.
Very little between all four teams in the semi finals. Rarely have I enjoyed three games within a week so much.
Thought there was serious overcarrying of the ball by both sides yesterday. Needed to get away from the tackles flying in and make space and wonder if time now to increase the number of steps allowed.
All three games hinged on the much quoted "inches" . Credit to all involved.
Quote from: Canalman on August 15, 2016, 10:51:42 AM
Very little between all four teams in the semi finals. Rarely have I enjoyed three games within a week so much.
Thought there was serious overcarrying of the ball by both sides yesterday. Needed to get away from the tackles flying in and make space and wonder if time now to increase the number of steps allowed.
All three games hinged on the much quoted "inches" . Credit to all involved.
Yeah there was obviously very little between the four teams and I agree about the steps, they need to look at it as the current rule isn't working.Colin Fennelly took close to 10 steps before offloading to Walter Walsh for the goal last week, and in that case he wasn't being held or boxed in.
Sure DJ made an art form of that. He used to take more steps than the winner of the 100m at the f**king olympics.
The Galway, Tipp game was a very good game in its own right, the result in doubt up until the last minute with fast, physical, skillfull hurling throughout.
Galway have finally shored up their defence in a big way with Daithi Burke outstanding in the fullback line, completely nullifying Seamus Callanan and it was interesting to hear one of the analysts suggesting that Tipp only got goal side of Galway once Callanan started to drift out the field with Burke following him.
I remember at the time thinking Hanbury had over stretched himself in a attempt to get the ball in front of O'Dwyer who maybe helped him on his way with a nudge, but once he was rounded the goal was on and was well taken with the strike into the ground to avoid the body of the keeper, if only Joe Cooney had shown the same awareness in the first half when in a similar position when hooked by Paudie Maher, Joe jnr had a great game, but like a lot of the Galway half forwards seemed to drift out of the game in the last 10 minutes when the Tipp half back line started to get a lot of time and space on the ball. Granted having to put Coen back into corner back may have taken a bit of the impetus from that area.
What of Tipp?
Their forwards were denied the time and space they had been afforded up until now and struggled for long periods to exert any great threat on the Galway backs, but they did come up with the two goals when needed so kudos to them for that, but Kilkenny will be applying the same if greater pressure in three weeks and some will need to step up along with Bonner Maher who scavenged like a badger yesterday and whilst he doesn't bother the scoreboard operator much is central to this Tipp forward divisions operation. They still lack primary ball winners in the air which has been their Achilles heel and one of the few clean catches made resulted in a goal for them, something they need to improve upon if they're to get goals against Kilkenny.
With Mick Fennelly possibly out of the final, that's a big loss to the cats as he was having a stormer when the ankle went and could be a big loss to them.
Mick Fennelly ruptured Achilles' tendon
Quote from: Minder on August 15, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
Mick Fennelly ruptured Achilles' tendon
Shame
Big loss for the final
Big loss for Kilkenny. Tipperary would not want to have it in their minds that that is decisive mind you.
Last time Tipp beat Kilkenny in a final, a high profile injury derailed the Cats. Could it be an omen?
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 14, 2016, 12:35:04 PM
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Austin Glesson will be spoken about as one of, if not the best, hurler of all time by the time he is finished. A bold statement for a 21 year old I know but I can't ever recall seeing a guy look like a senior player playing against minors. He just owns games. Great game but shocking stuff from the referee.
Great talent alright. Fantastic athlete although he has constant major rushes of blood to the head. Takes on far too many ridiculous shots. Very wasteful at times. That said he's still young.
Imagine a 21 year old making wrong decisions!!! Fantastic player and he has a great future.
This was an unreal game and both teams played it out the way it should be. Hard, on the edge without any malice. Some great performances but Richie Hogan is a real 'clutch' player. Pulls key scores out of nothing. This was a real 'Cody' performance.
As for the ref I'm not a hurling man but I thought he did ok. He let a lot go in the first half but there was no real dangerous stuff. He maybe favoured Waterford slightly but that happens sometimes. I think he did ok.
He was inconsistent at best, his inconsistency as you have pointed out slightly benefitted Waterford. Every county footballer in the country should watch this video of this match sport as it should be played, man to man no sledging and sheer will to win from both teams. the shoulder was not a free and was no different to the one on Canning the next day. Which was another epic and should also be watched by our big ball colleagues.
I'm about to get controversial here, I watched both Semi Finals on Sky. Commentary was a joy compared to RTE and Nicky English, JJ and Ollie are refreshing to listen too. RTE need to up their game.
I think that's the case for both codes Apples. Sky's coverage is positive, informative and Rachel Wyse. Now I prefer the hurling men on RTE to their football counterparts, but Ger Lock is starting to go down the Spillane road a bit. Every so often his natural love for hurling drags him back, but he looks like a lad that wants to be controversial. So much of RTE's analysis seems artificial and designed to drive controversy. Given that they have employed Dunphy, Brolly and Hook on their 3 main sports, it appears to be formulaic and intentional.
The problem with Sky is that only a relative few have Sky Sports in Ireland, and so any exclusive games they have are going to be unavailable to large amounts of people. I'm a bit blasé about that, partly because I have Sky, but mainly because those games were not available to people until relatively recently, you had to go to the game to see them. That said I do understand the point about pay TV versus Licensed TV/Free to Air.
But if you take the free to air argument out of it, I think Sky's presentation has been so much more Rachel Wyse.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
I think that's the case for both codes Apples. Sky's coverage is positive, informative and Rachel Wyse. Now I prefer the hurling men on RTE to their football counterparts, but Ger Lock is starting to go down the Spillane road a bit. Every so often his natural love for hurling drags him back, but he looks like a lad that wants to be controversial. So much of RTE's analysis seems artificial and designed to drive controversy. Given that they have employed Dunphy, Brolly and Hook on their 3 main sports, it appears to be formulaic and intentional.
The problem with Sky is that only a relative few have Sky Sports in Ireland, and so any exclusive games they have are going to be unavailable to large amounts of people. I'm a bit blasé about that, partly because I have Sky, but mainly because those games were not available to people until relatively recently, you had to go to the game to see them. That said I do understand the point about pay TV versus Licensed TV/Free to Air.
But if you take the free to air argument out of it, I think Sky's presentation has been so much more Rachel Wyse.
The 2 straights and one clown formula is knackered.
Quote from: seafoid on August 16, 2016, 09:45:45 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
I think that's the case for both codes Apples. Sky's coverage is positive, informative and Rachel Wyse. Now I prefer the hurling men on RTE to their football counterparts, but Ger Lock is starting to go down the Spillane road a bit. Every so often his natural love for hurling drags him back, but he looks like a lad that wants to be controversial. So much of RTE's analysis seems artificial and designed to drive controversy. Given that they have employed Dunphy, Brolly and Hook on their 3 main sports, it appears to be formulaic and intentional.
The problem with Sky is that only a relative few have Sky Sports in Ireland, and so any exclusive games they have are going to be unavailable to large amounts of people. I'm a bit blasé about that, partly because I have Sky, but mainly because those games were not available to people until relatively recently, you had to go to the game to see them. That said I do understand the point about pay TV versus Licensed TV/Free to Air.
But if you take the free to air argument out of it, I think Sky's presentation has been so much more Rachel Wyse.
The 2 straights and one clown formula is knackered.
Old fogeys should be put out to pasture.
Eddie Brennan is excellent and McGrath isn't bad. Henry will never upset anyone. Sheedy is still relevant
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 16, 2016, 09:14:50 AM
I'm about to get controversial here, I watched both Semi Finals on Sky. Commentary was a joy compared to RTE and Nicky English, JJ and Ollie are refreshing to listen too. RTE need to up their game.
I always watch on Sky now, when the choice is available. Much better analysis and no Canning, Spillane, Carney, Loughnane, Tommy Carr, Mulcahy etc.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 16, 2016, 09:22:25 AM
I think that's the case for both codes Apples. Sky's coverage is positive, informative and Rachel Wyse. Now I prefer the hurling men on RTE to their football counterparts, but Ger Lock is starting to go down the Spillane road a bit. Every so often his natural love for hurling drags him back, but he looks like a lad that wants to be controversial. So much of RTE's analysis seems artificial and designed to drive controversy. Given that they have employed Dunphy, Brolly and Hook on their 3 main sports, it appears to be formulaic and intentional.
The problem with Sky is that only a relative few have Sky Sports in Ireland, and so any exclusive games they have are going to be unavailable to large amounts of people. I'm a bit blasé about that, partly because I have Sky, but mainly because those games were not available to people until relatively recently, you had to go to the game to see them. That said I do understand the point about pay TV versus Licensed TV/Free to Air.
But if you take the free to air argument out of it, I think Sky's presentation has been so much more Rachel Wyse.
you'd have loved RTÉ's camogie analysts on Saturday then!!!
Skys HD coverage is far superior although Jamsie O'Connors suit nearly made me turn it over on saturday!
Never mind the coverage the fact that almost all of RTEs coverage this year has been on RTE1, with no HD, is reason enough to pick Sky (if you have it)
I've RTE HD on my Panasonic PVR box using freeview (or whatever its called)
Quote from: theskull1 on August 16, 2016, 02:52:11 PM
I've RTE HD on my Panasonic PVR box using freeview (or whatever its called)
There is HD on RTE2 but I don't think there is on RTE1?
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 16, 2016, 02:52:11 PM
I've RTE HD on my Panasonic PVR box using freeview (or whatever its called)
There is HD on RTE2 but I don't think there is on RTE1?
I have it on my Panasonic TV, but the Sky commentary in particular is good and Nicky English actually watches the game and gets the calls right. On RTE you have Marty and Ger trying to commentate through the medium of rhyming slang.
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 16, 2016, 03:58:47 PM
Quote from: Minder on August 16, 2016, 03:32:48 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 16, 2016, 02:52:11 PM
I've RTE HD on my Panasonic PVR box using freeview (or whatever its called)
There is HD on RTE2 but I don't think there is on RTE1?
I have it on my Panasonic TV, but the Sky commentary in particular is good and Nicky English actually watches the game and gets the calls right. On RTE you have Marty and Ger trying to commentate through the medium of rhyming slang.
Canning hasn't a fuppin clue
This is brilliant.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/wonderful-gesture-from-pauric-mahony/343074
That was class. I saw the girl consoling him on Saturday, and thought it was a lovely sight, and to see what the Waterford lads have done since is brilliant.
Few of us heading down for the finals, any spare tickets available would find a good home, my usual source for tickets is banged upon a Brazilian gaol ffs!!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 11:27:11 PM
Few of us heading down for the finals, any spare tickets available would find a good home, my usual source for tickets is banged upon a Brazilian gaol ffs!!
There will be plenty around : no novelty .
Quote from: ashman on August 19, 2016, 11:55:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 19, 2016, 11:27:11 PM
Few of us heading down for the finals, any spare tickets available would find a good home, my usual source for tickets is banged upon a Brazilian gaol ffs!!
There will be plenty around : no novelty .
There generally is but there are six of us heading down, never had problems getting them as on the Sunday outside Quinns or Mahers you'll get sorted