Donegal - A mess

[From the Bunker]

This is the kind of thing that takes years to recover from.

This happened in Cork Hurling in the mid-90's. They've never really recovered from it.

Sometimes you need a civil war to clear the air and move on.

You're a decade too early for Cork. Though it would have been great if they shot themselves in the foot back in the 90s.

Yes, you're right there. Seemed like a lot longer in my head.

[Rudi]

The recovery should start with a clean sweep of the county board. The chairman is new, but this needs a new start and some serious soul searching within the county.

Pretty much this - professionals like Lacey, Kavanagh, McGuiness coming into an amateur set up. Its not hard to lose your job when managing an inter county team, however county board officials are close to impossible to get rid of. The academy was well run, but costing serious dosh. All clubs in Donegal notified about meeting this Thursday to discuss pathway forward for re opening of Academy. Position advertised for U16 manager. Looks like all previous academy coaches won't be back unless major re-form of county board. Personally I think Donegal have to reach rock bottom, before they can find a way back. STEP 1 is admitting they have a problem, the rest of the steps will follow after.
All of this pain is for the long term betterment of football in Donegal.

[Rudi]

Morale should be good for the Hyde on Sunday.

We have had our fair share of poor morale & managers leaving mid season. We can give Donegal folk a shoulder to cry on & an ear for listening. 

[Blowitupref]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

[seafoid]

Morale should be good for the Hyde on Sunday.

They might get a caretaker manager bounce and have enough motivation to get Armagh relegated.

[Rudi]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

[Blowitupref]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

Heard that story at the time also but it appears going by what Jim McGuinness said that they would come on board if selected.

[armaghniac]

Morale should be good for the Hyde on Sunday.

They might get a caretaker manager bounce and have enough motivation to get Armagh relegated.

That would require a large loss by Armagh, a large victory by Donegal and Monaghan to draw.  If you think that all that will happen then lump on, there will be great odds. Recent Armagh football might be turgid, but I do not see them conceding a huge score for that reason.

[Rudi]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

Heard that story at the time also but it appears going by what Jim McGuinness said that they would come on board if selected.

Chat about Lacey in as manager, with Jim as head coach. Seemed to be a major hangover with Lacey not content with county board soon after. Feel sorry for Paddy Carr in all of this, a decent footballing man who left his principal post in a Meath school early. He's the fall guy, would have huge sympathy for him. But it was never going to work.

[seanyb]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

Heard that story at the time also but it appears going by what Jim McGuinness said that they would come on board if selected.

Chat about Lacey in as manager, with Jim as head coach. Seemed to be a major hangover with Lacey not content with county board soon after. Feel sorry for Paddy Carr in all of this, a decent footballing man who left his principal post in a Meath school early. He's the fall guy, would have huge sympathy for him. But it was never going to work.

moneybags Jim will have to drop his involvement with Down if that's true

[samuel maguire]

What was the original fall out with Lacey and the co board over? Was it money? Was he looking money to coach the academy? If so, by all reports he would have deserved a wage out of it saying how well it was run.

[blasmere]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

Heard that story at the time also but it appears going by what Jim McGuinness said that they would come on board if selected.

Chat about Lacey in as manager, with Jim as head coach. Seemed to be a major hangover with Lacey not content with county board soon after. Feel sorry for Paddy Carr in all of this, a decent footballing man who left his principal post in a Meath school early. He's the fall guy, would have huge sympathy for him. But it was never going to work.

moneybags Jim will have to drop his involvement with Down if that's true

Thought he took just the one session

[Cunny Funt]

Jim McGuinness on Irish Examiner podcast recently said that himself and Karl Lacey was to be part Rory Kavanagh's Donegal management team and were expected to get the job only for county board to selected Paddy Carr.  He didn't like the way the Donegal county told the media as to say they pulled out of the running.

Jim thought at the time something fishy was going on with the selection committee and he a few on the selection committee went on to join Paddy Carrs management team.

Kavanagh steeped out because he got dogs abuse from supporters during & after St Eunans county final loss to Glenties.

Heard that story at the time also but it appears going by what Jim McGuinness said that they would come on board if selected.

Chat about Lacey in as manager, with Jim as head coach. Seemed to be a major hangover with Lacey not content with county board soon after. Feel sorry for Paddy Carr in all of this, a decent footballing man who left his principal post in a Meath school early. He's the fall guy, would have huge sympathy for him. But it was never going to work.

moneybags Jim will have to drop his involvement with Down if that's true

January news that ended such rumours

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/01/29/news/mcguinness_not_part_of_down_management_laverty-3025049/

[Truth hurts]

I hope mcguinness will go to donegal since he has been with Down they have played a bland style.

And he has been to more than 1 session with Down, far more than 1

[seafoid]

Morale should be good for the Hyde on Sunday.

They might get a caretaker manager bounce and have enough motivation to get Armagh relegated.

That would require a large loss by Armagh, a large victory by Donegal and Monaghan to draw.  If you think that all that will happen then lump on, there will be great odds. Recent Armagh football might be turgid, but I do not see them conceding a huge score for that reason.

Every little helps