China Coronavirus

[Angelo]

There wasn't 1 single flu recorded this year. Do you not think the positive covid cases were in fact a flu?
Why didn't our cases go through the roof when we opened up in June last year? We had affectively every single thing open in June July august and September?
Work that one out

The lads who bang the drum about lockdowns working were all held back in the slow learners class.

The penny might eventually drop.

Angelo you've been referring to flu's and no flu's recorded, just new variants of Covid.

What do you mean exactly?

Am I too assume from your references that, Covid is just a new flu variant that has mutated to becoming more life threatening to the worldwide and not just in the winter months?

Or that Covid is actually flu and we should have just treated it as such and continued with limited restrictions?
Or Covid is real and not flu at all and with a closed border attitude we could have saved more lives?

Plus seasonally,  is it just in the winter months that it's worse or do we take in Autumn and Spring?

You want to rehash this debate all over again?

The data proves that lockdowns are a blunt and ineffectual measure to manage Covid. They are neither practical or sustainable.

[GetOverTheBar]

Really had enough of this all now. After the fiasco of last night. Basically you can do what you want criminally now but the rest of us can do nothing that try to abide by the rules.

Embarrasing scenes in the North last night. People were willing to look past the Rangers thing, can't see the message being heeded any longer.

There has been loads of protests, last nights was just another example of people not giving a shit, but opening the pubs won't make it any better.

I'd open today if there was to be no more lockdowns. Can you guarantee that the admissions will continue to fall if we open up?

Of course not, but to the normal regular man on the street who is sitting in the house bored stupid this 4 months can you justify it anymore when this nonsense goes unpunished as if its acceptable?

I know a couple turned away by the PSNI there on Friday from somewhere as a non essential trip.....it's becoming very tiring now when you see them 100 metres away letting people literally run riot.

[imtommygunn]

They do need to start opening more stuff up and more importantly giving a plan to businesses to do so. The numbers are not going to get that much lower.  Gradually yes but action is needed. Just don't go mad like Christmas and open everything and have a week "off".

[Milltown Row2]

There wasn't 1 single flu recorded this year. Do you not think the positive covid cases were in fact a flu?
Why didn't our cases go through the roof when we opened up in June last year? We had affectively every single thing open in June July august and September?
Work that one out

The lads who bang the drum about lockdowns working were all held back in the slow learners class.

The penny might eventually drop.

Angelo you've been referring to flu's and no flu's recorded, just new variants of Covid.

What do you mean exactly?

Am I too assume from your references that, Covid is just a new flu variant that has mutated to becoming more life threatening to the worldwide and not just in the winter months?

Or that Covid is actually flu and we should have just treated it as such and continued with limited restrictions?
Or Covid is real and not flu at all and with a closed border attitude we could have saved more lives?

Plus seasonally,  is it just in the winter months that it's worse or do we take in Autumn and Spring?

You want to rehash this debate all over again?

The data proves that lockdowns are a blunt and ineffectual measure to manage Covid. They are neither practical or sustainable.

So why is France using these blunt measures to shut everything down during this third wave they are having?

[Angelo]

There wasn't 1 single flu recorded this year. Do you not think the positive covid cases were in fact a flu?
Why didn't our cases go through the roof when we opened up in June last year? We had affectively every single thing open in June July august and September?
Work that one out

The lads who bang the drum about lockdowns working were all held back in the slow learners class.

The penny might eventually drop.

Angelo you've been referring to flu's and no flu's recorded, just new variants of Covid.

What do you mean exactly?

Am I too assume from your references that, Covid is just a new flu variant that has mutated to becoming more life threatening to the worldwide and not just in the winter months?

Or that Covid is actually flu and we should have just treated it as such and continued with limited restrictions?
Or Covid is real and not flu at all and with a closed border attitude we could have saved more lives?

Plus seasonally,  is it just in the winter months that it's worse or do we take in Autumn and Spring?

You want to rehash this debate all over again?

The data proves that lockdowns are a blunt and ineffectual measure to manage Covid. They are neither practical or sustainable.

So why is France using these blunt measures to shut everything down during this third wave they are having?

Because they are idiots.

It's a failed strategy that has not worked for them on three previous occasions.

[seafoid]

There wasn't 1 single flu recorded this year. Do you not think the positive covid cases were in fact a flu?
Why didn't our cases go through the roof when we opened up in June last year? We had affectively every single thing open in June July august and September?
Work that one out

The lads who bang the drum about lockdowns working were all held back in the slow learners class.

The penny might eventually drop.

Angelo you've been referring to flu's and no flu's recorded, just new variants of Covid.

What do you mean exactly?

Am I too assume from your references that, Covid is just a new flu variant that has mutated to becoming more life threatening to the worldwide and not just in the winter months?

Or that Covid is actually flu and we should have just treated it as such and continued with limited restrictions?
Or Covid is real and not flu at all and with a closed border attitude we could have saved more lives?

Plus seasonally,  is it just in the winter months that it's worse or do we take in Autumn and Spring?

You want to rehash this debate all over again?

The data proves that lockdowns are a blunt and ineffectual measure to manage Covid. They are neither practical or sustainable.

So why is France using these blunt measures to shut everything down during this third wave they are having?

The EU vaccine rollout has been atrocious
The bigger risk, however, is a new variant emerging from a poor part of the world with sloppy monitoring of Covid.

[Hound]

Very good news from the US this week, with a study showing the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines not only stop the development of symptoms, but they are 90% effective at stopping people getting infected at all. This is brilliant in terms of stopping all spreading of the disease.

Less good is what's going on in Brazil. Half of their patients in ICU are in their 20s, 30s and 40s. It seems the Brazilian P1 variant is much more severe to young people than previous variants. It's in Ireland but in low numbers so far, so very important to keep it that way.

I really don't see the sense in asking 1st to 4th years return to school at this stage. I'm all for easing restrictions for outdoor activity, but I'd leave it another number of weeks until we ease indoor activities. In Dublin especially.

[imtommygunn]

That is good. I still do think that a significant factor in spikes round December, January, February was variants - more the London one- and spreading like wildfire. Lessons need to be learned for the Brazilian one and people coming from Brazil should definitely have to be quarantined.

The vaccine is no doubt having an impact but younger generations haven't got it so surely it is not just the vaccine making things better?

[seafoid]

The system is no good unless the weakest part is strong. That goes for corner backs as well as pandemics. Covid mutates and vaccines may not be able to defend against the mutations.
This thing could persist for several more years.

I miss hurling league finals on Easter Sunday. We are not in business as usual.

[Cunny Funt]

ROI weekly update. Good progress all round.

Cases 3638 (354 fewer than last week)
Reported deaths 52 ( 29 fewer than last week)

In hospital 242 (80 fewer than a week ago)
In ICU 58 (8 fewer than last Sunday)

[armaghniac]

It is noticeable that the 6 counties have ramped up their testing, while still finding fewer people. The walk in testing centres in the hotpots in the 26 counties likewise keep the testing up nad help mop up clusters.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah it is good to see a significant increase in testing definitely. Cases down and testing up is great to see.

SF corner backs are well protected by blanket defenses these days

[Smurfy123]

I will tell you this now. If we had no furlough life would have been back to normal a long time ago and the daily updates would be scrapped
Why can u not answer me?
Why have we had not 1 flu this year?
Not 1
Michael Martin had an event on December 19th with at least 30 in attendance where masks were mandatory at the time and indoor events were forbidden but yet he gets away with it
They are taking the piss at this stage both north and south
O Neill attends a funeral with thousands but the general public can
Wise up Milly
Enough is enough

[Milltown Row2]

I will tell you this now. If we had no furlough life would have been back to normal a long time ago and the daily updates would be scrapped
Why can u not answer me?
Why have we had not 1 flu this year?
Not 1
Michael Martin had an event on December 19th with at least 30 in attendance where masks were mandatory at the time and indoor events were forbidden but yet he gets away with it
They are taking the piss at this stage both north and south
O Neill attends a funeral with thousands but the general public can
Wise up Milly
Enough is enough

So is it flu or Covid?

[imtommygunn]

For anyone doubting that variants are a thing Tory mp David Davis said today in an interview that variants are "biological nonsense "  (that's Davis the great brexit negotiator  ).

Milly had the flu. Sure he said that. Do you mean not one died?