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#1
Quote from: tonto1888 on Today at 09:57:28 AMI have ot 55:45 in favour of Galway. They have been better in the last couple meetings but that said, havent been able to beat us - I am not counting penalties as they wont happen this Sunday.

Have they been better?  It's a complete coin toss for me. Whoever gets the luck should that be in the form of a bounce of a ball or a refereeing decision will win the match.
#2
Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2024, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 21, 2024, 08:52:25 PMDebates will be entertaining at least  :-\ . Trump can talk all night but without Biden's presidency to constantly pan, and without someone to attack, will he have anything to say that resonates or will he just come across as rambling?
 If it's Harris, she doesn't come across as the sharpest knife, so I'd imagine she'll take a bit of coaching from her team. Maybe attack Trump on age, COVID during his term, his loose adherence to facts when talking could be good attack points but she'll need to talk policy too and not get flustered when confronted or start that idiotic laughing.


She's actually a decent enough debater. And as a former prosecutor, well able to make a coherent argument, especially with the fertile ground that is Trump's character and policies. That inability was one of the most damning failures of Biden during that debate last month.

However, I'd like to see the Dems open it up to the field, and if there are other candidates, have an old style open convention. If there aren't any others, then no one can complain about Harris taking the nomination.

We'll see what happens.

Is there not an issue with is it Ohio and the candidate having to be selected well before the convention in order to appear on the ballot
#3
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on July 21, 2024, 09:49:21 PMThe game is up. That picture has won Trump the election imo.

The Democrats can't attack Trump on morals as he has none and he just brazens it out.

I think the late rally and change of rider is too late.

Is it true that any Super Pac funds can't be switched over to a brand new candidate?

I think so but campaign finance law is very complicated
#4
Quote from: weareros on July 21, 2024, 05:55:31 PMEpic game. Well done Clare. Ref did his best to make a draw but that would have been cruel on Clare.

I thought Clare got every decision going.
#6
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 21, 2024, 12:56:34 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 21, 2024, 11:27:09 AMSo this happened yesterday.

https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/qatar-airways-787-dublin-doha-declares-emergency/

Strangely I can't seem to find any mainstream coverage of it which is the real wtf.

My brother was on the flight and we were getting panicked messages as his phone started to pick up signal during the descent.

They ended up landing on the sand near Basra airport because the run way wasn't long enough for that size of plane.

Thankfully no one was hurt and they got a second plane that was able to land and take off from the run way to them to get them to Doha
Mad that wasn't on RTE News. Not sure I'd be in a hurry to get onto another flight!

I was involved in an emergency landing 9 or 10 years ago at Gatwick. Everyone asked me how I got on another flight straight after and my response was the chances of it happening once are low enough but twice in a day. I felt pretty confident about the second flight
#7
So this happened yesterday.

https://aviationsourcenews.com/emergency/qatar-airways-787-dublin-doha-declares-emergency/

Strangely I can't seem to find any mainstream coverage of it which is the real wtf.

My brother was on the flight and we were getting panicked messages as his phone started to pick up signal during the descent.

They ended up landing on the sand near Basra airport because the run way wasn't long enough for that size of plane.

Thankfully no one was hurt and they got a second plane that was able to land and take off from the run way to them to get them to Doha
#8
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 21, 2024, 11:03:42 AM
Quote from: snoopdog on July 21, 2024, 07:27:06 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 20, 2024, 09:46:40 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on July 20, 2024, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on July 20, 2024, 06:30:12 PMThe casuals were out today in Newry.. Was picking up some stuff in O'Neills and the amount of Armagh ones looking jerseys 😅 Staff looked like they were tired of explaining they don't make the Armagh gear

On that note, the sooner Armagh either go back to O'Neills or McKeever's improve their quality the better.
Wish they'd move to playr fit
I was wondering how mckeevers were managing the demand for jerseys. What shops sell them?
Those looking for Armagh jerseys in ONeills aren't too clued in.
Pop up shop in Cross with them, shop in Craigavon I think and Armagh sports and trophies have them too as far as I know. Also online.

Craigavon store closed and moved to Lurgan a few months ago. Just in case anyone tries going to the old store location that still appears in some Google searches.
#9
Quote from: Main Street on July 21, 2024, 12:20:45 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 07:41:13 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 20, 2024, 07:18:45 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2024, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 19, 2024, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 18, 2024, 08:59:58 PMhttps://www.thejournal.ie/man-who-attacked-tourist-with-a-machete-called-him-a-fking-immigrant-is-jailed-6440780-Jul2024/

Some animals about. Bit of a joke sentence too. Key should be thrown away.

Sentence is an absolute joke, the act it self of course, but you factor in attracting tourists into the country. Disgusting
How the fcuk can there be mitigating circumstances (warranting a sentence reduction) for almost hacking someone to death with a machete because you thought they were an immigrant.

The problem lies with the Orichetas then. The judge was constrained by the range set by the sentencing guidelines. They set the sentence as between 7.5 and 12 years for this type of sentence. There's very good reason for a discount for a plea (which this was). So following the guidance the 8 year sentence was towards the higher if not at the highest end of what parliament says is needed for this type of offending. That it's a joke is down to Parliament not the Judge
Sentenced to 5.5 yrs. Why not the full 8? He has 29 previous convictions and was arrested at the scene with plenty of footage showing he did it so why does he get any discount for pleading to something he clearly did?

There's a number of good reasons for discount for pleas. The key amongst those is the cost saving to the state of having to run expensive trials and having to dot every I and Cros's every T in terms of preparing cases for trial. It also allows court time to deal with more cases.

More significantly though is that guilty pleas spare victims from being retraumitised. That's a major factor in discount for pleas that should always be maintained.

The 5.5 years has a footing in government policy as well. Sentences are not simply punitive, there also has to be an element of deterrence to them but also elements of rehabilitation and reintegration. Parliament has set sentencing law in the south so that parts of sentences can be suspended subject to certain conditions like good behaviour etc. This acts as a carrot for prisoners to try and rehabilitate themselves and helps with good order in prisons. In the north parliament has chosen a different approach with the same underlying principles.
Ah here, stop David. You come out with this every time there is a serious serious offence. This is not your run of the mill, one size fits all case. This animal is GOING TO KILL SOMEONE. If we cannot spend a couple of bucks to make sure he is locked away properly, the system is a complete and utter joke. And I'm willing to bet in this case, as in every other serious crime case, the joke of a sentence is far far far more retraumatizing than anything that could be possibly said in the courtroom.

I'm struggling to see the alternative here. The victim was the victim of a savage attack. Parliament has set a range of sentences for that offence. The Judge heard all the facts and then followed that guidance. He set a sentence length within that guidance (in fact at the higher end of it so he reflected that it was very serious even for that type of offence). He then applied the discount for the plea again as Parliament has advised should be done. He's then determined how that sentence should be split. As per the guidelines.

If he didn't follow the guidelines in any of those respects then inevitably there would have been an almost guaranteed to succeed appeal. Which would have been costly, time consuming and no doubt stressful for the victim.

I'm not for a single second defending the sentence in this case. I'm defending the process that arrived at it. I can see good reason for the process. The fact it results in a reprehensible sentence is due to Parliament who clearly need to change the guidance for this type of offending.
I've never heard the Dáil referred to as the parliament. We don't have a prime minister, we have a Taoiseach in the Dáil. We don't have MPs, we have TDs. Some of our Nordie cousins just don't understand us at all. They´re just totally ignorant of our historic struggle to cast out the British shackle just so (among other things) we can name our legislature the Dáil. Do they not realise the pride we take in being able to call a Dáil, a Dáil.

3 things. 1 I am dyslexic and struggle with the spelling particularly when on a phone that doesn't auto correct words in Irish.

2. I use Parliament as short hand for the combination of legislature and executive. As the legislature sets the statutes and the executive is by and large responsible for guidelines and/or the appointments to the bodies that set the guidelines.

3. Old habits die hard. I tend to use parliament to allow a more stock response and don't tend to alter it when discussing the position in Northern Ireland where of course some of the guidance comes from UK parliament (if for example the offence is contrary to a UK wide statute or order in council) and some comes from Stormont.

No offence was intended but again some of southern cousins don't understand the difficulties we have in the North having to operate under such hybrid systems and want to derive offence where none is intended. 
#10
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 20, 2024, 08:46:05 PMThat's all very well but the judge is Martin Nolan so I'd be very skeptical. 6 years for importing garlic. But a stalker sc**bag deported from the US who then decides to take a blowtorch to a toddlers face, for just ya know, the craic. Lets just suspend the bulk of the sentence.

Fair enough I'd missed that bit. I don't know enough about those other cases.
#11
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 20, 2024, 07:18:45 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2024, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 19, 2024, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 18, 2024, 08:59:58 PMhttps://www.thejournal.ie/man-who-attacked-tourist-with-a-machete-called-him-a-fking-immigrant-is-jailed-6440780-Jul2024/

Some animals about. Bit of a joke sentence too. Key should be thrown away.

Sentence is an absolute joke, the act it self of course, but you factor in attracting tourists into the country. Disgusting
How the fcuk can there be mitigating circumstances (warranting a sentence reduction) for almost hacking someone to death with a machete because you thought they were an immigrant.

The problem lies with the Orichetas then. The judge was constrained by the range set by the sentencing guidelines. They set the sentence as between 7.5 and 12 years for this type of sentence. There's very good reason for a discount for a plea (which this was). So following the guidance the 8 year sentence was towards the higher if not at the highest end of what parliament says is needed for this type of offending. That it's a joke is down to Parliament not the Judge
Sentenced to 5.5 yrs. Why not the full 8? He has 29 previous convictions and was arrested at the scene with plenty of footage showing he did it so why does he get any discount for pleading to something he clearly did?

There's a number of good reasons for discount for pleas. The key amongst those is the cost saving to the state of having to run expensive trials and having to dot every I and Cros's every T in terms of preparing cases for trial. It also allows court time to deal with more cases.

More significantly though is that guilty pleas spare victims from being retraumitised. That's a major factor in discount for pleas that should always be maintained.

The 5.5 years has a footing in government policy as well. Sentences are not simply punitive, there also has to be an element of deterrence to them but also elements of rehabilitation and reintegration. Parliament has set sentencing law in the south so that parts of sentences can be suspended subject to certain conditions like good behaviour etc. This acts as a carrot for prisoners to try and rehabilitate themselves and helps with good order in prisons. In the north parliament has chosen a different approach with the same underlying principles.
Ah here, stop David. You come out with this every time there is a serious serious offence. This is not your run of the mill, one size fits all case. This animal is GOING TO KILL SOMEONE. If we cannot spend a couple of bucks to make sure he is locked away properly, the system is a complete and utter joke. And I'm willing to bet in this case, as in every other serious crime case, the joke of a sentence is far far far more retraumatizing than anything that could be possibly said in the courtroom.

I'm struggling to see the alternative here. The victim was the victim of a savage attack. Parliament has set a range of sentences for that offence. The Judge heard all the facts and then followed that guidance. He set a sentence length within that guidance (in fact at the higher end of it so he reflected that it was very serious even for that type of offence). He then applied the discount for the plea again as Parliament has advised should be done. He's then determined how that sentence should be split. As per the guidelines.

If he didn't follow the guidelines in any of those respects then inevitably there would have been an almost guaranteed to succeed appeal. Which would have been costly, time consuming and no doubt stressful for the victim.

I'm not for a single second defending the sentence in this case. I'm defending the process that arrived at it. I can see good reason for the process. The fact it results in a reprehensible sentence is due to Parliament who clearly need to change the guidance for this type of offending.
#12
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 20, 2024, 06:36:28 PMApart from the fact it was attempted murder. He has several knife offences and was carrying around a f**king machete in the city centre. Clearly a hate crime too. But yeah, lets concentrate on the mitigating factors. Pleaded guilty to something he was caught doing on multiple CCTV cameras plus plenty of eye witnesses. I'm gonna call BS on the poor auld judge, hands tied line.

Was it though?  I haven't read anywhere that he was convicted of attempted murder which is probably the hardest charge to prove of any of the offences again the person.

I'm not suggesting the sentence is right but it's within the guidelines set forth by Parliament from what I know of it. So I don't see what else the judge could do and I think more needs done to tackle the legislators on the issue
#13
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 20, 2024, 06:05:08 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 20, 2024, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on July 19, 2024, 10:00:33 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on July 19, 2024, 12:04:15 AM
Quote from: Look-Up! on July 18, 2024, 08:59:58 PMhttps://www.thejournal.ie/man-who-attacked-tourist-with-a-machete-called-him-a-fking-immigrant-is-jailed-6440780-Jul2024/

Some animals about. Bit of a joke sentence too. Key should be thrown away.

Sentence is an absolute joke, the act it self of course, but you factor in attracting tourists into the country. Disgusting
How the fcuk can there be mitigating circumstances (warranting a sentence reduction) for almost hacking someone to death with a machete because you thought they were an immigrant.

The problem lies with the Orichetas then. The judge was constrained by the range set by the sentencing guidelines. They set the sentence as between 7.5 and 12 years for this type of sentence. There's very good reason for a discount for a plea (which this was). So following the guidance the 8 year sentence was towards the higher if not at the highest end of what parliament says is needed for this type of offending. That it's a joke is down to Parliament not the Judge
Sentenced to 5.5 yrs. Why not the full 8? He has 29 previous convictions and was arrested at the scene with plenty of footage showing he did it so why does he get any discount for pleading to something he clearly did?

There's a number of good reasons for discount for pleas. The key amongst those is the cost saving to the state of having to run expensive trials and having to dot every I and Cros's every T in terms of preparing cases for trial. It also allows court time to deal with more cases.

More significantly though is that guilty pleas spare victims from being retraumitised. That's a major factor in discount for pleas that should always be maintained.

The 5.5 years has a footing in government policy as well. Sentences are not simply punitive, there also has to be an element of deterrence to them but also elements of rehabilitation and reintegration. Parliament has set sentencing law in the south so that parts of sentences can be suspended subject to certain conditions like good behaviour etc. This acts as a carrot for prisoners to try and rehabilitate themselves and helps with good order in prisons. In the north parliament has chosen a different approach with the same underlying principles.
#14
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on July 20, 2024, 12:17:57 PMThe Armagh folk pointing at Galway's poor performance vs Sligo have short memories. They were nearly turned over by Down themselves.

I forgot they played Sligo. Very confusing season. Playing Armagh and Sligo both in Sligo.
#15
Quote from: Armagh18 on July 20, 2024, 09:30:28 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 20, 2024, 09:05:17 AM3 championship games in the last 3 years, 1 win, 1 draw, 1 X PK defeat, encouraging enough stats from an Armagh perspective but as always the stats don't tell the true story. I've always felt Galway have had our number in these games, they've always looked that wee bit better, but I think we've progressed, maybe more than them, so for a change I go into a game reasonably confident.

I do worry about Hurson's appointment, I do not understand the thinking behind it at all, an really unnecessary sideshow.
We've probably only played in patches across all of those games and still dug it out even though we could have been dead and buried. Thats bound to be in the back of Galways minds as well- no matter what we throw at these f**kers we can't seem to put them away.

2 things will likely decide this- who has got it in the legs in the last 10 and who has the impact off the bench. Think Galway are stronger than Kerry in those aspects but hopefully we're that bit better.

I don't buy that Galway had our number in any of those games. In Sligo, for me at least, they got some key decisions at the right time and still didn't win the match. I think a lot will come down to the fine margins, the referee, the bounce of the ball, that element of luck etc. Far too close to call for me.

Really want to see Armagh mix up its defensive strategy the way it did last week and get some pressure on the ball out the field at times and hopefully force turnovers