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#1
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
July 25, 2023, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: Duine Inteacht Eile on July 25, 2023, 05:54:40 PM
Surely that's highly unlikely. They weren't a joint ticket at Lavey, just their previous 3 managers?

Why would they join up now?

No Godfather + 2dads (God Children)?
#3
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
July 21, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 21, 2023, 12:17:01 PM
Did he have any success with loup?
What happened at galbally?
Did he not manage Errigal Ciaran to County final the year Dungannon won it
#4
Quote from: redzone on July 17, 2023, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 17, 2023, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 17, 2023, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on July 17, 2023, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Derryman forever on July 17, 2023, 09:38:16 AM
Regardless of the debate whether Ryans challenge was a foul, in the interest of protecting the player, was mc Quillan  obligated to stop play for a potential head injury?

That is a very valid point.

Yes he is but when players (not in this case) keep holding their heads at every 'tackle' it can be the a bit much to keep working out was he hit, how bad or where was it on the body.

In this particular incident, the ball was played across the pitch? so the position the keeper was in was natural enough? plus he was really reaching for it and collected it, the aftermath was worse than what I had thought though, but it wasn't a charge, I thought he caught the ball first and collided second.

It's all about opinions though, people want a physical game and when it suits them and non contact when it doesn't


Wise up.
You are making a fool of yourself.
The referee had unobstructed vision from less than 20 yards.

Mcguigan is great at inviting contact and getting the free. He had plenty of time to put his hands up to protect himself but he tryed to take one for the team. Joe didn't buy it. And rightly so

So putting your hand up was going to protect yourself.

This was a 13-14 stone man coming full pelt.

The only way you were going to protect yourself was to get the hands up and forcibly push him to the side which would more than likely have resulted in fairly heavy fall

Would Shane have seen yellow or red for doing this

More than likely
#5
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
July 09, 2023, 11:52:53 PM
Quote from: bannside on July 09, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
Thanks DK, and fair play to Creggan for staying around and respecting the occasion. Great club.

I can tell you our club makes no apology in saying we partied hard tonight, massive night in and around our social club. We completely understand this dosent necessarily translate into championship success, but PG1 will mark this down as a considerable step on our journey from division three to the top of division one.
The poor PG1 cows

Won't be milked for a fortnight
#6
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
June 05, 2023, 05:00:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 05, 2023, 03:57:42 PM
No -  there are definitely subs getting no game time not playing at all for their clubs.

Tbh I dunno but it's working so I don't want to knock it too much. There must be some reason for Lynch but who knows what it is.

Don't know the ins and outs or the inner workings but whatever medicine had to be given looked to be accepted by those who had to take it and the other squad members  must have been happy with it as well.

That was as hard working.  committed and disciplined display as Antrim football has produced in many years.

Yes there were  mistakes, some poor execution, might not have been the best 15 players in Antrim on display but AMcE would have gone down the road knowing he got a performance and is gradually getting the building blocks in place.

As mentioned in the SG report there was every opportunity to throw in the towel... Shakey start, hit for 1.3 at the start or second half to go 4 down, already qualified, blistering hot day.... They didn't. Stuck to the task, kept the shape, kept the discipline.

This was typified by a 2-3 minute arm wrestle around the middle of the first half. Fermanagh had possession probed left and right for a good 2_3 minutes trying to stretch and break the defence. Typically Antrim wouldn't hold their Shape and discipline, someone would go for a big hit, a lunge, someone would step out of sync. They didn't got the turnover quick transition. Al point @ the other end.

They might struggle with some of the stronger harder running teams further down the line but there was a bit of a statement made.   

Hard work and discipline is a prerequisite. Being selfless and giving to the guy in the best position. This will allow the talent to flourish CJ's first touch an assist for ALs goal. Only for a slight miss control his 2nd touch was more than likely going to end up in someone hitting the net as well. OD's first touch hitting the net although a miss hit. His 2nd or 3rd an assist for RMcC goal.

Small steps but you can see that there is clear buy in and work being put in. Just need to keep making the small steps and build confidence and belief.

Plenty to work on but the age profile of the finishing 15 should give scope for improvement over the next few years



#7
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
June 04, 2023, 06:53:59 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 04, 2023, 06:48:40 PM
How many has he thought right enough? I am sure he mustn't be a kick in the arse away from double figures between league and championship. Four in championship and how many in league?

(Edit) at a guess seven or eight?
In contention for the 2023 Golden Boot
#8
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 31, 2023, 02:19:18 PM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 01:55:58 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 11:21:41 AM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 31, 2023, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: ck on May 31, 2023, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: geezer on May 30, 2023, 11:23:39 PM
Doesnt matter how many Cargin have missing. Their depth of squad is unreal. Best squad in the county by a distance.

But is the quality there? Older players are all hanging on and well past it.
Surely if the quality was there they'd have more starting county players?

Just asking btw, I'm not overly familiar with the younger players.
What older player is still hanging on and is well past it lol

McCanns, Crozier, KOB?
The opinion of most would be that these boys best years are well behind them. You'll be closer to the action EOC so feel free to correct me.
Says more about the quality lacking of other teams players that these lads can still win championships well into their 30s.
We have a nice mix of old and young which will be even more evident at the business end with likes of Conhiur Johnston, Conan Johnston, Eunan Quinn and Tom Shivers making the breakthrough to be first choice players. All top quality talent

Fair enough EOC. Sounds like the quality is there but just hasnt come through yet? Would Cargin folk think they should have more starters on current Antrim team?
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15 starters and first 5 subs.... scroll back a few pages... Half the current squad wouldn't get on good club team😁😁😁
#9
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 24, 2023, 04:38:15 PM
Quote from: InnocentByStander on May 24, 2023, 04:23:04 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 24, 2023, 03:57:43 PM
We've also won our last two championship games. Showing signs of improvement. Positivity!

Improvement? beating two div 4 teams?
will be improvement if they can beat Fermanagh and top the group
We got beat quite comprehensively by 2 Div 4 teams last year..(Granted 1 of them had gained promotion) Very few of the pesky South Belfast upstarts or North Antimers who wouldn't make a good club team. Surprisingly there were lots of players from a strong club team..... Only an opinion or maybe a fact
#10
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 23, 2023, 09:20:50 AM
Quote from: Spike on May 22, 2023, 10:52:57 PM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 21, 2023, 09:34:21 AM
Quote from: Gold on May 21, 2023, 09:24:06 AM
Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young
With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂

I am.

I want Antrim to be successful and he is obviously one of our most talented players

He's still young and hopefully will fulfil his potential.  We are all on the same side here....he 100percent needs to work of his conditioning,  speed , sharpness and fitness and should be pushed by all to do so, for the good of the County

Pat was used to playing MacRory Cup football not McLarnon Cup. Could be he sees more value heading back to his club to do the hard work than playing County friendlies

Sounds like you are in the same camp as the hurling snobs

"a sort of Gaelic football Grand National for disappointed also rans".
#11
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 12:32:26 PM
Quote from: Flanker on May 21, 2023, 12:29:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 12:17:43 PM
Watched the first 40 minutes, I didn't see one issue with cards, calls or sending offs, mouthing at the ref is a black card, he'll not do it again. Anyone trying to defend it, is wrong.

I yellow carded someone the other week for constantly trying to tell me how to ref, needless to say he was very quiet the rest of the game. Morgan didn't just mouth but ran over like a petulant child waving and jumping. Brilliant

The red card was easy, not sure why he even consulted other than conditions underfoot and was it a slip, that could only have been his get out, but nah, seen his opportunity and didn't pull out

MR2 what did you think on the Niall Morgan take on the high ball in the goal mouth just prior to black card incident. Slightly surprised that it hasn't been mentioned.... Looked a lot more aggressive than just having the knee up to protect.... Any view on it?

Hmmm I thought when I first seen it it was dangerous, when seen the replay there was not much in it, and while the commentators were saying players put their knees up to protect themselves, that's pure shite, had he connected (which he didn't really) I'd have blown a free in

I would need to have a further look. When it showed the replay it looked a very unnatural way to come for the ball. Leading head high with studs up. Granted he did not connect but if he had it would have caused a fair bit of damage.
#12
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 21, 2023, 12:17:43 PM
Watched the first 40 minutes, I didn't see one issue with cards, calls or sending offs, mouthing at the ref is a black card, he'll not do it again. Anyone trying to defend it, is wrong.

I yellow carded someone the other week for constantly trying to tell me how to ref, needless to say he was very quiet the rest of the game. Morgan didn't just mouth but ran over like a petulant child waving and jumping. Brilliant

The red card was easy, not sure why he even consulted other than conditions underfoot and was it a slip, that could only have been his get out, but nah, seen his opportunity and didn't pull out

MR2 what did you think on the Niall Morgan take on the high ball in the goal mouth just prior to black card incident. Slightly surprised that it hasn't been mentioned.... Looked a lot more aggressive than just having the knee up to protect.... Any view on it?
#13
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 15, 2023, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: FrMaginn on May 15, 2023, 03:34:00 PM
Quote from: Flanker on May 14, 2023, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
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Who would you have started and where?

Really.... Your surprised by someone asking how no player from the best club side in Antrim for the last 10 years started

No dispute on Cargin being the top side for the last 10 years

Feel free to answer the question. Answer should include only those that have currently made themselves available and are fit for selection.
#14
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 14, 2023, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:48:56 PM
Pat shivers corner forward, and although Sean O Neil injured and unavailable obviously isn't rated at all by McEntee or McCrudden.
Just seen the highlights great to see Adam Loughran showing what a great player he is.

Would you not say Pat has had a fair bit of game time to date

A minimum of at least 2 more likely at least 3 further games in TC he will get opportunity

Sean very talented and maybe a bit like Adam who you mentioned above might just take a little patience and he will get opportunity to show his ralent

2 early to be throwing in the towel.....

#15
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
May 14, 2023, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: EOC1923 on May 14, 2023, 10:10:12 PM
Quote from: bannside on May 14, 2023, 09:19:27 PM
Simple question to answer EOC. If Antrim hadn't won today there would have been a fair few queuing up to say we are no better off. But now most will agree (concede even) that we are. A 19 point turnaround in a year is not too shabby.

Enjoy the occasion, the pride that took a hammering this time last year has been restored.

Now we can move on....
A good win, we have rightly took it seriously this year as this is Antrims level.Disappointed we had no representation on the starting team to be honest. I'd say the men we have there maybe won't be there much longer.
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Who would you have started and where?