Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels 1-10 Antrim (Saint Galls) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
(Cavan Gaels 1-07 St Galls 1-07 Full Time)
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Loup Saint Patricks) Derry v Fermanagh (Derrygonnelly Harps) (Derry venue)
(Kilcoo Owen Roes) Down v Donegal (Naomh Adhamhnáin) (Down venue)
(Clontibret O'Neills) Monaghan v Tyrone (Dromore Saint Dympnas) (Monaghan venue)
St Galls v Armagh(Pearse Óg) (Antrim venue)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal
Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Antrim
Sunday November 29th
Final:
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Draw:
Gaoth Dobhair v Cill Chartha
Naomh Micheal v An Clochan Liath
Ard A Ratha v Naomh Conaill
Gleann Fhinne v Naomh Adhamhnain
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Draw:
Crossmaglen v Pearse Óg - 5th September - Athletic Grounds - 7pm
Granemore v Killeavy/St Patricks Cullyhanna - 6th September - Athletic Grounds - 7pm
Clan na Gael v Armagh Harps - 12th September - Athletic Grounds - 7pm
Clann Éireann v Whitecross - 13th September - Pearse Óg Park - 5pm
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Draw:
Saint Patricks v Roslea Friday August 21st 7-00pm
Derrygonnelly v Tempo Saturday August 22nd 7-00pm
Lisnaskea v Newtownbutler Saturday August 22nd 7-00pm
Enniskillen v Devenish Sunday August 23rd 7-00pm
Derry SFC Quarter Final draw:
Loup V Newbridge - 22nd August - Slaughtneil
Bellaghy V Magherafelt - 22nd August - Slaughtneil
Dungiven V Coleraine - 23rd August - Foreglen
Ballinderry V Glenullin - 23rd August - Celtic Park
ballinderry must be looking towards ulster already, seen muldoon at crossmaglens last match there....
Quote from: Overthebar! on August 19, 2009, 09:29:11 AM
ballinderry must be looking towards ulster already, seen muldoon at crossmaglens last match there....
:D good winding!
His brother lives there, plays for the 2nds if I remember right.
Cavan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Draw:
Denn v Castlerahan Sunday August 30th 7-00pm
Redhills v Cavan Gaels Saturday September 5th 6-00pm
Belturbet v Mullahoran Saturday September 5th 7-30pm
Gowna v Killygarry Sunday Septmber 6th 7-00pm
All in Breffni Park.
Monaghan
Two Semi-finalist in place Scotstown and Maghercloone
Quarterfinal/Back door play off for place in Semis
Sunday 30th August Blayney Faughs V Clontibret 6.30pm Ballybay
Saturday 29th August Carrickmacross V Latton 6.30pm Clontibret
Powerade Senior Football Champoionship
Friday 21st Aug 6 45 Ballyholland
Burren v Saval (C Reynolds)
Saturday 22nd Aug 6 30 Castlewellan
An Riocht v Loughinisland (D Brogan)
Sunday 23rd Aug 6 30 Clonduff
Mayobridge v Kilcoo (N Cousins)
Monday 24th Aug 7 00 Newcastle
Clonduff v Liatroim (P Brannigan)
I think November 29th will see Crossmaglen playing Glennullin. I wonder what odds you would get on that now?
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on August 19, 2009, 12:37:30 PM
I think November 29th will see Crossmaglen playing Glennullin. I wonder what odds you would get on that now?
about 20/1 I'd say
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on August 19, 2009, 12:37:30 PM
I think November 29th will see Crossmaglen playing Glennullin. I wonder what odds you would get on that now?
St Gall's vs Ballinderry ;)
When was this draw made? Isn't on the Ulster Council website.
Quote from: Doire abú on August 19, 2009, 04:05:33 PM
When was this draw made? Isn't on the Ulster Council website.
Last night i dteach s'againne up the lane over the cow grid past the dogs and hens and through the near always open door(was never sure why that is especially when it is freeezing out - although there is an inside door as well) except there was no teinidh mhónadh as it was warm enough and it being early enough in Autumn round our way.
An old woman who does not have red hair but was on her way to a wake house presided over the whole lot as is traditional on Ulster Club Championship Draw Night and all screwed up bits of paper with the Counties of Ulster written on them were mixed up in the colander which hardstation lent us from the new topic he started which is now on Page Four of the Non Discussion Board.
Antrim fell through the bottom of the colander three times so they can have no complaints about being in the Preliminary Round for the second year in a row.
The details of the draw were sent to the Ulster Council by text ar maidin which is much handier now than the times when a fella on horseback used to deliver them.
Joe Dolan The House with the White Washed Gable Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Galbally Pearse's v Killyclogher St. Mary's Friday Septmber 11th Omagh 7-15pm
Trillick St. Macartan's v Carrickmore St. Colmcille's Friday September 11th Omagh 8-45pm
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa v Omagh St. Enda's Saturday September 12th Pomeroy 6-00pm
Dromore St. Dympna's v Errigal Ciaran Sunday September 13th An Charraig Mhór 6-00pm
Derry SFC Quarter Finals:
Loup 0-09 Newbridge 0-07
Bellaghy 0-14 Magherafelt 1-08
Dungiven 1-12 Coleraine 0-09
Ballinderry 2-08 Glenullin 2-11
Semi Final Draw:
Glenullin v Dungiven
Bellaghy v Loup
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Saint Patricks 0-06 Roslea 2-06
Derrygonnelly 2-08 Tempo 1-07
Lisnaskea 0-07 Newtownbutler 0-09
Enniskillen 0-06 Devenish 2-07
Semi Finals:
Newtownbutler v Roslea Saturday September 5th
Devinish v Derrygonnelly Sunday September 6th
Down Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Burren 1-10 Saval 0-12
An Riocht 0-08 Loughinisland 0-10
Mayobridge 1-08 Kilcoo 1-10
Clonduff 2-10 Liatroim 1-09
Antrim Quarter Finals:
Portglenone 2-16
All Saints 2-09
St. Brigids 2-15
Dunloy 0-08
St. John's 0-06
St. Gall's 1-11
Cargin 2-18
Gort na Mona 1-06
Donegal Senior Football Championship Quarter Finals:
Naomh Micheal 2-07 An Clochán Liath 1-13
Gleann Fhinne 1-06 Naomh Adhamhnáin 1-09
Gaoth Dobhair 1-11 Cill Chartha 1-13
Ard A Ratha 1-08 Naomh Conaill 0-11
Donegal Senior Football Championship Semi Finals Draw:
An Clochán Liath v Naomh Adhamhnáin
Ard A Ratha/Naomh Conaill v Cill Chartha
Monaghan SFC Quarter-Finals:
Latton 1-12 Carrickmacross 0-13
Clontibret 0-11 Castleblayney 0-11
Anyone know if the Intermediate or Junior club championship draws have been made !?
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship:
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
(Ballymaguigan Saint Treas)Derry 0-08 Down(Ballymartin Saint Josephs) 0-09
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Newtown Saint Michaels)Armagh v Donegal(Gaeil Fhanada) (Armagh venue)
(Kinawley Brian Borus)Fermanagh v Cavan(Lavey Joe Biggars) (Fermanagh venue)
(Ahoghill Saint Marys)Antrim v Monaghan(Monaghan Harps) (Antrim venue)
Ballymartin St Josephs v Tyrone(Cookstown Father Rocks)( Down venue)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Armagh/Donegal v Fermanagh/Cavan
Antrim/Monaghan v Tyrone/Down
Sunday November 29th:
Final
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship:
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
(Moville Bun an Phobail)Donegal 5-06 Down(Glenn John Martins) 2-05
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Shane O'Neills)Armagh v Derry(Seán Dolans) (Armagh venue)
(Newtownstewart Saint Eugenes)Tyrone v Monaghan(Emyvale) (Tyrone venue)
(St Teresas)Antrim v Cavan(Butlersbridge Emmetts) (Antrim venue)
(Belnaleck Art McMurroughs)Fermanagh v Moville Bun an Phobail (Fermanagh venue)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Armagh/Derry v Tyrone/Monaghan
Antrim/Cavan v Fermanagh/Donegal
Sunday November 29th
Final
Ulster Senior Hurling Club Championship:
Any other team than Keady winning the Armagh Senior Hurling Championship would compete in the Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship. (Edit: Na Fianna beat Keady)
Sunday October 11th:
Semi Final:
Derry v Down(Ballycran Saint Josephs) (in Casey)
Sunday October 25th
Final (in Casey)
Derry/Ballycran Saint Josephs v Antrim(Dunloy Cúchullains)
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship:
Sunday September 27th
Preliminary Round:
(Sean Treacys)Armagh 1-10 Antrim(Rasharkin Saint Marys) 4-13
Sunday October 4th:
Quarter Finals:
(Lisnaskea Emmetts)Fermanagh 0-12 Down(Warrenpoint Saint Peters) 0-08
(Na Magha)Derry 2-05 Tyrone(Naomh Colum Cille) (Derry venue) 2-12 (Switched to Dungannon)
(Carrickmacross Emmetts)Monaghan 1-05 Donegal(Burt Hibernians) (Monaghan venue) 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys 1-21 Cavan(Mullahoran Saint Josephs) 0-01
Sunday October 11th
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts v Naomh Colmcille (Dungannon 1-30pm)
Burt Hibernians v Rasharkin St Marys (Dungannon 3-30pm)
Sunday October 25th
Final
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship:
Sunday October 4th:
(Lisbellaw Saint Patricks)Fermanagh 1-06 Antrim(Saint Galls) 6-16
Monday October 5th
(Liatroim Fontenoys) Down v Monaghan(Castleblayney Faughs) (Páirc Esler 7-30pm)
Semi Finals:
(Na Fianna)Armagh v Liatroim Fontenoys/Castleblayney Faughs
Sunday October 11th
Saint Galls v Tyrone(Eoghan Ruadh) (Athletic Grounds 3-30pm)
Sunday October 25th
Final
Brilliant, thanks drici !
So Cross, Ballinderry and Mayobridge now all out. Whoever wins this Gaelic Life pick the county winners competition will have made some god choices, think it could come down to runners up etc.
Monaghan semi-finals:
Magheracloone vs. Clontibret
Scotstown vs. Latton
Some weekendy stuff:
Fermanagh Senior Football Semi Finals:
Roslea 1-09 Newtownbutler 1-06
Derrygonnelly 2-09 Devenish 0-06
Armagh Senior Football Quarter Finals:
Pearse Óg 0-07 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-04
Granemore 0-10 Saint Patricks,Cullyhanna 0-07
Donegal Senior Football Quarter Final Replay:
Ard A Ratha 1-11 Naomh Conaill 1-13 (After Extra Time)
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Clontibret 1-18 Castleblayney Faughs 1-16 (After Extra Time)
(The Robinsons did not attend yesterday's match in Emyvale but apparently have promised a large contingent if Clontibret reach the Final)
Cavan Senior Football Quarter Finals:
Denn 1-07 Castlerahan 0-08
Redhills 0-08 Cavan Gaels 1-11
Belturbet 1-11 Mullahoran 2-10
Gowna 0-09 Killygarry 0-13
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Clontibret 1-18 Castleblayney Faughs 1-16 (After Extra Time)
(The Robinsons did not attend yesterday's match in Emyvale but apparently have promised a large contingent if Clontibret reach the Final)
Enjoyed that.
Inniu 11-09-09:
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Finals:
Galbally Pearses v Killyclogher Saint Marys (7-15pm)
Trillick Saint Macartans v Carrickmore Saint Colmcilles (8-45pm)
Down Senior Football Semi Final:
Clonduff v Loughinisland (8-30pm)
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Dia Sathairn 12-09-09:
Armagh Senior Football Quarter Final:
Armagh Harps v Clan na Gael (7-00pm)
Antrim Senior Football Semi Final:
Portglenone Roger Casements v Saint Brigids (6-00pm)
Monaghan Senior Football Semi Final:
Magheracloone Mitchells v Clontibret O'Neills (7-00pm)
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Final:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa v Omagh Saint Endas (6-00pm)
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Dia Domhnaigh 13-09-09:
Donegal Senior Football Semi Finals:
Cill Chartha v Naomh Conaill (3-00pm)
An Clochán Liath v Naomh Adhamhnáin (6-00pm)
Armagh Senior Football Quarter Final:
Clann Éireann v Whitecross Saint Killians (5-00pm)
Derry Senior Football Semi Finals:
Loup Saint Patricks v Bellaghy Wolfe Tones (3-00pm)
Dungiven Saint Canices v Glenullin John Mitchells (5-00pm)
Antrim Senior Football Semi Final:
Saint Galls v Cargin Erin's Own (8-00pm)
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Final:
Dromore Saint Dympnas v Errigal Ciaran (6-00pm)
Monaghan Senior Football Semi Final:
Latton O'Rahillys v An Bhoth Scotstown (3-30pm)
Down Senior Football Semi Final:
Kilcoo v Burren (6-30pm)
Monaghan SFC final, Sunday September 27th
Clontibret vs. Latton
Dia hAoine 11-09-09:
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Finals:
Galbally Pearses 2-09 Killyclogher Saint Marys 1-15
Trillick Saint Macartans 0-07 Carrickmore Saint Colmcilles 0-10
Down Senior Football Semi Final:
Clonduff 1-07 Loughinisland 3-06
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Dia Sathairn 12-09-09:
Armagh Senior Football Quarter Final:
Armagh Harps 1-11 Clan na Gael 1-11
Antrim Senior Football Semi Final:
Portglenone Roger Casements 0-10 Saint Brigids 1-07
Monaghan Senior Football Semi Final:
Magheracloone Mitchells 1-09 Clontibret O'Neills 2-13
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Final:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 1-10 Omagh Saint Endas 2-06
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Dia Domhnaigh 13-09-09:
Donegal Senior Football Semi Finals:
Cill Chartha 1-08 Naomh Conaill 2-15
An Clochán Liath 2-07 Naomh Adhamhnáin 1-17
Armagh Senior Football Quarter Final:
Clann Éireann 2-07 Whitecross Saint Killians 0-12
Derry Senior Football Semi Finals:
Loup Saint Patricks 1-12 Bellaghy Wolfe Tones 0-13
Dungiven Saint Canices 1-08 Glenullin Jo
hn Mitchells 0-10
Antrim Senior Football Semi Final:
Saint Galls 3-08 Cargin Erin's Own 0-11
Tyrone Senior Football Quarter Final:
Dromore Saint Dympnas 1-06 Errigal Ciaran 0-09
Monaghan Senior Football Semi Final:
Latton O'Rahillys 2-06 An Bhoth Scotstown 0-11
Down Senior Football Semi Final:
Kilcoo 0-12 Burren 0-10
What stage are the rest of the county championships at now.
Here is the ones I know of, not sure of Armagh, Cavan, Donegal and Fermanagh.
Antrim - Final - St Galls v Portglenone/St Brigid's
Derry - Final - Loup v Dungiven
Down - Final - Louginisland v Kilcoo
Monaghan - Clontibret v Latton
Tyrone - Semi-finals - Ardboe v Killycloger and Carrickmore v Dromore/Errigal Ciaran
armagh has one quarter final replay harps v clan na gael winners play granemore
pearse og v clan eireann in other semi
Anocht 16-09-09:
Antrim Senior Football Championship Semi Final Replay:
Saint Brigids v Portglenone Roger Casements (8-30pm Casement Park)
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Dia hAoine 18-09-09:
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Armagh Harps v Clan na Gael (Athletic Grounds 7-30pm)
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Dia Sathairn 19-09-09:
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Errigal Ciaran v Dromore Saint Dympnas (An Charraig Mhór 5-45pm)
Cavan Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Denn Dan O'Connells v Mullahoran Dreadnoughts (Breffni Park 6-00pm)
Killygarry v Cavan Gaels (Breffni Park 7-30pm)
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on September 14, 2009, 08:12:18 PM
What stage are the rest of the county championships at now.
Here is the ones I know of, not sure of Armagh, Cavan, Donegal and Fermanagh.
Antrim - Final - St Galls v Portglenone/St Brigid's
Derry - Final - Loup v Dungiven
Down - Final - Louginisland v Kilcoo
Monaghan - Clontibret v Latton
Tyrone - Semi-finals - Ardboe v Killycloger and Carrickmore v Dromore/Errigal Ciaran
Armagh - Semi Finals - Pearse Ogs V Clan Eireann and Granemore v Armagh Harps/Clan Na Gael
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Armagh)Sean Treacys 1-10 Rasharkin Saint Marys(Antrim) 4-13
Quarter Finals:
(Fermanagh)Lisnaskea Emmetts 0-12 Warrenpoint Saint Peters(Down) 0-08
(Monaghan)Carrickmacross Emmetts 1-05 Burt Hibernians(Donegal) 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys 1-21 Mullahoran Saint Josephs(Cavan) 0-01
(Tyrone)Naomh Colum Cille 2-12 Na Magha(Derry) 2-05
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts 1-04 Naomh Colm Cille 4-12
Burt Hibernians 1-08 Rasharkin St Marys 1-10
Final:
Rasharkin St Marys 2-14 Naomh Colum Cille 4-10 Tyrone
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship:
Quarter Finals:
(Fermanagh)Lisbellaw Saint Patricks 1-06 Saint Galls(Antrim) 6-16
(Down)Liatroim Fontenoys 1-16 Castleblayney Faughs(Monaghan) 1-13
Semi Finals:
(Armagh)Middletown Na Fianna 2-13 Liatroim Fontenoys 1-11
Eoghan Ruadh 1-06 St Galls 5-14
Final:
St Galls 5-11 Middletown Na Fianna 0-12 Antrim
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final:
(Derry)Dungiven Kevin Lynch's 2-13 Ballycran St Josephs(Down0 2-16
Final:
(Antrim)Dunloy Cúchullains 2-16 Ballycran St Josephs 2-11 Antrim
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Donegal)Moville Bun an Phobail 5-06 Glenn John Martins(Down) 2-05
Quarter Finals:[/b]
(Armagh)Shane O'Neills 2-12 Seán Dolans(Derry) 0-09
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys 1-09 Monaghan Harps 1-10
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs 0-08 Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) 2-09
(Fermanagh)Belnaleck Art McMurroughs 1-04 Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) 1-14
Semi Finals:
Shane O'Neills 0-09 Emyvale 0-12
Moville Bun an Phobail 2-07 St Teresas 2-09
Final:
Emyvale 2-06 St Teresas 1-09
Final Replay:
Emyvale 2-14 St Teresas 1-11 Monaghan
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Derry)Ballymaguigan Saint Treas 0-08 Ballymartin Saint Josephs(Down) 0-09
Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Newtown St Michaels 1-07 Gaeil Fhánada(Donegal) 2-08
(Fermanagh)Kinawley Brian Borus 0-13 Lavey Joe Biggars(Cavan) 0-15
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs 0-08 Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) 2-09
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys 1-09 Monaghan Harps 1-10
Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhánada 1-08 Lavey Joe Biggars 1-14
Monaghan Harps 1-09 Cookstown Father Rocks 1-11
Final:
Cookstown Father Rocks 0-09 Lavey 1-04 Tyrone
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels 1-10 Antrim (Saint Galls) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
(Cavan Gaels 1-07 St Galls 1-07 Full Time)
Quarter Finals:
(Derry)Loup St Patricks 1-10 Derrygonnelly Harps(Fermanagh) 1-06
(Down)Kilcoo Owen Roes 0-13 Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) 0-09
(Monaghan)Clontibret O'Neills 0-10 Dromore St Dympnas(Tyrone) 0-08
(Antrim)St Galls 0-10 Pearse Óg(Armagh) 0-08
Semi Finals:
Loup St Patricks 1-12 Kilcoo Owen Roes 1-11
Clontibret O'Neills 0-11 St Galls 2-15[/b]
Final:
St Galls 0-16 Loup St Patricks 0-05 Antrim
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Armagh Harps 3-11 Clan na Gael 1-12
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Errigal Ciaran 0-07 Dromore Saint Dympnas 1-07
Cavan Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Denn Dan O'Connells 1-11 Mullahoran Dreadnoughts 0-04
Killygarry 1-04 Cavan Gaels 1-11
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Dia Sathairn 26-09-09:
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Armagh Harps v Granemore Saint Marys (Athletic Grounds 7-00pm)
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Final:
Derrygonnelly Harps v Roslea Shamrocks (Brewster Park 7-45pm)
Antrim Senior Football Championship Final:
Saint Galls v Portglenone Roger Casements (Casey 7-45pm)
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Dia Domhnaigh 27-09-09:
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Final:
Latton O'Rahillys v Clontibret O'Neills (Clones 3-45pm)
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Pearse Óg v Clann Éireann (Athletic Grounds 7-00pm)
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship Preliminary Round:
Seán Treacys(Armagh) v Rasharkin Saint Marys(Antrim) (Athletic Grounds 3-30pm)
Extra Time if required.
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Armagh Harps 0-10 Granemore Saint Marys 0-06
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Final:
Derrygonnelly Harps 3-09 Roslea Shamrocks 1-07
Antrim Senior Football Championship Final:
Saint Galls 2-20 Portglenone Roger Casements 0-06
Quote from: drici on September 23, 2009, 10:41:36 AM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Armagh Harps 3-11 Clan na Gael 1-12
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Quarter Final Replay:
Errigal Ciaran 0-07 Dromore Saint Dympnas 1-07
Cavan Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Denn Dan O'Connells 1-11 Mullahoran Dreadnoughts 0-04
Killygarry 1-04 Cavan Gaels 1-11
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Dia Sathairn 26-09-09:
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Armagh Harps v Granemore Saint Marys (Athletic Grounds 7-00pm)
Fermanagh Senior Football Championship Final:
Derrygonnelly Harps v Roslea Shamrocks (Brewster Park 7-45pm)
Antrim Senior Football Championship Final:
Saint Galls v Portglenone Roger Casements (Casey 7-45pm)
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Dia Domhnaigh 27-09-09:
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Final:
Latton O'Rahillys v Clontibret O'Neills (Clones 3-45pm)
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Pearse Óg v Clann Éireann (Athletic Grounds 7-00pm)
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship Preliminary Round:
Seán Treacys(Armagh) v Rasharkin Saint Marys(Antrim) (Athletic Grounds 3-30pm)
Extra Time if required.
A Tyrone native board member will be lining out in this fixture tomorrow for Treacys.........
Monaghan Senior Football Championship Final:
Latton O'Rahillys 0-09 Clontibret O'Neills 2-13
Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi Final:
Pearse Óg 0-18 Clann Éireann 0-11
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship Preliminary Round:
Seán Treacys(Armagh) 1-10 Rasharkin Saint Marys(Antrim) 4-13
Ulster SF Club Championship 2009 04 Oct 15:30 - Outright Betting
Selection Price
St Galls 11/4
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 13/2
Loup 7/1
St Eunans 8/1
Clontibret 9/1
Cavan Gaels 10/1
Dromore 14/1
Kilcoo 16/1
Carrickmore 20/1
Ardboe 20/1
Derrygonnelly 20/1
Loughinisland 20/1
Armagh Harps 25/1
Naomh Conall 33/1
Killyclogher St Marys 66/1
Denn 100/1
Dia Sathairn 03-10-09
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
Lisnaskea Emmetts (Fermanagh) 0-12 (Down) Warrenpoint Saint Peters 0-08
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Dia Domhnaigh 04-10-09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
Lisbellaw Saint Patricks (Fermanagh) 1-06 (Antrim) Saint Galls 6-16
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Finals:
Naomh Colum Cille (Tyrone) 2-12 (Derry) Na Magha 2-05
Carrickmacross Emmetts (Monaghan) 1-05 (Donegal) Burt Hibernians 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys 1-21 (Cavan) Mullahoran Saint Josephs 0-01
Derry Senior Football Championship Final:
Loup Saint Patricks 1-08 Dungiven Saint Canices 0-10
Cavan Senior Football Championship Final:
Denn Dan O'Connells 2-11 Cavan Gaels 1-20
Donegal Senior Football Championship Final:
Naomh Conaill 0-07 Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-13
Down Senior Football Championship Final:
Kilcoo Owen Roes 2-09 Loughinisland 1-04
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 1-07 Killyclogher Saint Marys 0-09
Carrickmore Saint Colmcilles 0-10 Dromore Saint Dympnas 2-09
Quote from: topgun on September 29, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Ulster SF Club Championship 2009 04 Oct 15:30 - Outright Betting
Selection Price
St Galls 11/4
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 13/2
Loup 7/1
St Eunans 8/1
Clontibret 9/1
Cavan Gaels 10/1
Dromore 14/1
Kilcoo 16/1
Carrickmore 20/1
Ardboe 20/1
Derrygonnelly 20/1
Loughinisland 20/1
Armagh Harps 25/1
Naomh Conall 33/1
Killyclogher St Marys 66/1
Denn 100/1
Og's and Clontibret look good value to me, especially Og's they beat Cross (any team that can beat Cross should be favs imo)
Dromore are excellent value at 14/1
That's a seriously short price for St Galls given that Cavan Gaels beat them in Casement last year.
10-1 is tasty for Cavan
I like the look of Clontibret but if paper is anything to go by then St Galls are the team to beat. They would not be popular winners as they are a gather up though ;)
Dromore i suppose would be good enough value with Cross away but not just because I am from Carrickmore, but ourselves and Ardboe offer the best value out of Tyrone at 20/1 each. The 2 Derry teams look ludicriously short to me. Cavan Gaels are due a run in this competition
I think Ardboe is worth a sneaky tenner. They'll prob win the Tyrone champ I'd say and bar St Galls no real heavy hitters left in the Competition.
Quote from: sammymaguire on September 30, 2009, 11:03:02 AM
Quote from: topgun on September 29, 2009, 05:47:08 PM
Ulster SF Club Championship 2009 04 Oct 15:30 - Outright Betting
Selection Price
St Galls 11/4
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 13/2
Loup 7/1
St Eunans 8/1
Clontibret 9/1
Cavan Gaels 10/1
Dromore 14/1
Kilcoo 16/1
Carrickmore 20/1
Ardboe 20/1
Derrygonnelly 20/1
Loughinisland 20/1
Armagh Harps 25/1
Naomh Conall 33/1
Killyclogher St Marys 66/1
Denn 100/1
Og's and Clontibret look good value to me, especially Og's they beat Cross (any team that can beat Cross should be favs imo)
were are those odds from sammy?
St Galls are far too short at 11/4.
Dromore at 14/1 is my pick of the bunch.
topgun put them up not I
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
Favourites for what?
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
Favourites for what?
The Tyrone Championship.
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
Favourites for what?
The Tyrone Championship.
Who with?
I doubt it.
Ardboe are only in the semifinal of the championship where they will have a tough game with Killyclogher on Sunday.
From the other semi Dromore stuffed Ardboe in the championship semi final last year while Carrickmore gave them a good pasting in the league in July so I seriously doubt Ardboe are favourites for the Tyrone championship.
Ardboe would be seen as the3rd favourites for the Tyrone championship with the bookies!
Tyrone Winner
Dromore 7/4
Ardboe 2/1
Carrickmore 9/4
Killyclogher 7/1
(Bring back McGranaghans)
Even at 50/1 Ardboe would be poor value to win Ulster and not because their not a good side but because if they win Tyrone they will go on the booze and will drink themselves rotten same as Cargin do when they win Antrim.
Quote from: Master Yoda on September 30, 2009, 02:48:56 PM
Even at 50/1 Ardboe would be poor value to win Ulster and not because their not a good side but because if they win Tyrone they will go on the booze and will drink themselves rotten same as Cargin do when they win Antrim.
True ;D ;D
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:52:25 PM
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
Favourites for what?
The Tyrone Championship.
Who with?
I doubt it.
Ardboe are only in the semifinal of the championship where they will have a tough game with Killyclogher on Sunday.
From the other semi Dromore stuffed Ardboe in the championship semi final last year while Carrickmore gave them a good pasting in the league in July so I seriously doubt Ardboe are favourites for the Tyrone championship.
Killyclogher are going to get relegated. Come on Ardboe all the way! Haven't they won a championship every decade since the 50's or something?
But the point is ...Arboe are not a good team :P
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on September 30, 2009, 03:58:38 PM
But the point is ...Arboe are not a good team :P
There better than Bellaghy.
Quote from: botman on September 30, 2009, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 30, 2009, 01:46:24 PM
Would agree with Max amd Sideline, Dromore look the value pick at 14/1.
You should go into politics lad... Ardboe a raging hot favourites!
They will likely not be favs in the final. They're only favs right now because the bookies have them as very strong favs to get the to the final, whereas the other semi is laid more tightly with Dromore narrow favourites. (for some reason)
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
(Cavan Gaels) Cavan v Antrim (Saint Galls) (Cavan venue)
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Loup Saint Patricks) Derry v Fermanagh (Derrygonnelly Harps) (Derry venue)
(Kilcoo Owen Roes) Down v Donegal (Naomh Adhamhnáin) (Down venue)
(Clontibret O'Neills) Monaghan v Tyrone (Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa/Dromore Saint Dympnas) (Monaghan venue)
(Armagh Harps/Pearse Óg) Armagh v Cavan Gaels/St Galls (Armagh v Cavan Gaels - Armagh venue) (Armagh v St Galls - Antrim venue)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal
Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Cavan/Antrim
Sunday November 29th
Final:
Dia Sathairn 03-10-09
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
Lisnaskea Emmetts (Fermanagh) 0-12 Warrenpoint Saint Peters (Down) 0-08
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Dia Domhnaigh 04-10-09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
Lisbellaw Saint Patricks (Fermanagh) 1-06 Saint Galls (Antrim) 6-16
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Finals:
Naomh Colum Cille (Tyrone) 2-12 Na Magha (Derry) 2-05
Carrickmacross Emmetts (Monaghan) 1-05 Burt Hibernians (Donegal) 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys (Antrim) 1-21 Mullahoran Saint Josephs (Cavan) 0-01
Derry Senior Football Championship Final:
Loup Saint Patricks 1-08 Dungiven Saint Canices 0-10
Cavan Senior Football Championship Final:
Denn Dan O'Connells 2-11 Cavan Gaels 1-20
Donegal Senior Football Championship Final:
Naomh Conaill 0-07 Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-13
Down Senior Football Championship Final:
Kilcoo Owen Roes 2-09 Loughinisland 1-04
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Semi Finals:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 1-07 Killyclogher Saint Marys 0-09
Carrickmore Saint Colmcilles 0-10 Dromore Saint Dympnas 2-09
I'd fancy Dromore to win Tyrone and Ulster this year.
Quote from: nrico2006 on October 05, 2009, 10:22:04 AM
I'd fancy Dromore to win Tyrone and Ulster this year.
I would go along with this. Possibly the only team to thwart St. Galls
Cavan Gaels put up a great score in the final yesterday. they beat us in Casement park last year. this game is Cavan Gaels to lose.
we play them in two weeks down in Cavan. why would they not start favourites? they have won their own championship as much as we have lately
Forde was talking about making a major impact in Ulster this year, so they are looking beyond the men from Milltown Row ;)
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship:
Sunday September 27th
Preliminary Round:
(Seán Treacys)Armagh 1-10 Antrim(Rasharkin Saint Marys) 4-13
Quarter Finals:
(Lisnaskea Emmetts)Fermanagh 0-12 Down(Warrenpoint Saint Peters) 0-08
(Na Magha)Derry 2-05 Tyrone(Naomh Colum Cille) 2-12 (Derry venue) (Switched to Dungannon)
(Carrickmacross Emmetts)Monaghan 1-05 Donegal(Burt Hibernians) 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys 1-21 Cavan(Mullahoran Saint Josephs) 0-01
Sunday October 11th
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts v Naomh Colm Cille (Dungannon 1-30pm)
Burt Hibernians v Rasharkin St Marys (Dungannon 3-30pm)
Sunday October 25th
Final
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship:
Sunday October 4th:
(Lisbellaw Saint Patricks)Fermanagh 1-06 Antrim(Saint Galls) 6-16
Monday October 5th
(Liatroim Fontenoys) Down v Monaghan(Castleblayney Faughs) (Páirc Esler 7-30pm)
Semi Finals:
(Na Fianna)Armagh v Liatroim Fontenoys/Castleblayney Faughs
Sunday October 11th
Saint Galls v Tyrone(Eoghan Ruadh) (Athletic Grounds 1-30pm)
Sunday October 25th
Final
Dia Luain 05-10-09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
Liatroim Fontenoys (Down) 1-16 Castleblayney Faughs (Monaghan) 1-13
Dia Céadaoine 07-10-09
Derry Senior Hurling Championship Final Replay:
Dungiven Kevin Lynch's v Slaughtneil Robert Emmets (Celtic Park 8-00pm)
Dia Domhnaigh 11-10-09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Middletown Na Fianna (Armagh) v Liatroim Fontenoys (Casement Park 1-30pm)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Ballycran St Josephs v Dungiven Kevin Lynch's/Slaughtneil Robert Emmets (Casement Park 3-30pm)
Dia Céadaoine 07-10-09
Derry Senior Hurling Championship Final Replay:
Dungiven Kevin Lynch's 2-15 Slaughtneil Robert Emmets 1-13
Dia Domhnaigh 11-10-09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Middletown Na Fianna (Armagh) v Liatroim Fontenoys (Casement Park 1-30pm)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Ballycran St Josephs v Dungiven Kevin Lynch's (Casement Park 3-30pm)
Quote from: Schkite on October 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
can you give me the link?
Quote from: randomtask on October 08, 2009, 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
can you give me the link?
Well that's what they were last week, here's the updated PP odds, amazed at how a few have drifted:
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/ulster-club-football-championship?ev_oc_grp_ids=30538
Quote from: randomtask on Today at 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
Monaghan champion's Clontibret are a great bet at odds 13/2. Get on them at that price. Heed the Pieman's advice, it's free.
I am the Pieman.
Quote from: The Pieman on October 08, 2009, 08:19:13 PM
Quote from: randomtask on Today at 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
Monaghan champion's Clontibret are a great bet at odds 13/2. Get on them at that price. Heed the Pieman's advice, it's free.
I am the Pieman.
They're now 12-1 Pieman, great value I'd agree!
I wouldn't be too familiar with Cavan or Antrim football but a friend from thereabouts tells me the Ulster champions will be one of the two, gaels or St Galls, with a sneaking feeling for the Gaels. Anyone want to call that match as if their money was on it?
Dungiven look good value at 6/1
Quote from: The Pieman on October 08, 2009, 08:19:13 PM
Quote from: randomtask on Today at 07:23:11 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 01, 2009, 11:03:37 AM
PP odds, bit different:
St Galls 11/4
St Eunans 9/2
Dungiven 6/1
Pearse Ogs 6/1
Cavan Gaels 6/1
Clontibret 13/2
Dromore 10/1
Loup 10/1
Ardboe 18/1
Kilcoo 22/1
Armagh Harps 22/1
Derrygonnelly 25/1
Loughinisland 33/1
Monaghan champion's Clontibret are a great bet at odds 13/2. Get on them at that price. Heed the Pieman's advice, it's free.
I am the Pieman.
Ulster Club Football Championship Sunday 18th October 2009, 15:00 Outright Betting Hide
St Galls 9/4
Loup 9/2
St Eunans 5/1
Pearse Ogs 13/2
Cavan Gaels 13/2
Dromore 13/2
Clontibret 12/1 Kilcoo 16/1
Ardboe 28/1
Derrygonnelly 28/1
Armagh Harps 33/1
Unbelievable value for Clontibret. Drifter from 13/2 to 12/1. Was there a swine flu epidemic in Clontibret?
Quote from: yellowcard on October 09, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
Unbelievable value for Clontibret. Drifter from 13/2 to 12/1. Was there a swine flu epidemic in Clontibret?
I can vouch that there wasn't! I'd say it was more to do with the performance of Dromore in Tyrone, was it that impressive by the way, to justify the change in odds? Assuming they win Tyrone, which I think they will, I'd imagine the odds will drift further. Wait til then to get your money on! ;)
Quote from: Schkite on October 09, 2009, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 09, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
Unbelievable value for Clontibret. Drifter from 13/2 to 12/1. Was there a swine flu epidemic in Clontibret?
I can vouch that there wasn't! I'd say it was more to do with the performance of Dromore in Tyrone, was it that impressive by the way, to justify the change in odds? Assuming they win Tyrone, which I think they will, I'd imagine the odds will drift further. Wait til then to get your money on! ;)
prob was down to dromore's performance, and wile it was impressive, they havnt been playing well up to that, before the carrickmore game they were 14/1 which was great value, down to 13/2 now which is a massive cut due to one decent performance
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on October 09, 2009, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: Schkite on October 09, 2009, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 09, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
Unbelievable value for Clontibret. Drifter from 13/2 to 12/1. Was there a swine flu epidemic in Clontibret?
I can vouch that there wasn't! I'd say it was more to do with the performance of Dromore in Tyrone, was it that impressive by the way, to justify the change in odds? Assuming they win Tyrone, which I think they will, I'd imagine the odds will drift further. Wait til then to get your money on! ;)
prob was down to dromore's performance, and wile it was impressive, they havnt been playing well up to that, before the carrickmore game they were 14/1 which was great value, down to 13/2 now which is a massive cut due to one decent performance
Aye and it's not like Clontibret's win in Monaghan wasn't impressive itself, amazing there was such a drift in odds just down to other teams performances. Obviously the Tyrone champs will be favourites in Ulster quarter final then, perfect!
Clontibret down to 10-1 in PP now.
Might be better suited in another thread given that this one is just about Ulster, but here's the odds for the All-Ireland club:
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/all-ireland-club-football?ev_oc_grp_ids=2697
Quote from: dowling on October 09, 2009, 01:11:42 AM
I wouldn't be too familiar with Cavan or Antrim football but a friend from thereabouts tells me the Ulster champions will be one of the two, gaels or St Galls, with a sneaking feeling for the Gaels. Anyone want to call that match as if their money was on it?
Id would have to be St Gall's for me. Seen them both quite a bit in Ulster this last few years and watched Cavan Gaels beat Gall's a year or two back. Just think Gall's have the better team on paper and seem quite fired up this year, Rory Gallagher isn't a bad addition either.
The only concern is both have coasted to their respective county titles and have yet to be really tested.
best value has to be the Tyrone winners. should it be Ardboe then i fancy us to win that one. a bit of ulster championship history in that one. Our manager played in a game years back that i remember, and we owe them.
dromore, different kettle of fish. good team and unlucky last year against Cross. pretty fit and have beaten all th good teams in Tyrone to get to the final.
Gaels beat us last year and truth be told we are stronger and panel is back to full strength. Playing the Gaels in their own back yard will make them favourites and Seanie is taking some scores lately, coupled with the high scoring final they had, I'd say its very even.
but i might have a go at the 10/1 for Dromore if i were betting
Quote from: milltown row on October 09, 2009, 11:48:18 PM
best value has to be the Tyrone winners. should it be Ardboe then i fancy us to win that one. a bit of ulster championship history in that one. Our manager played in a game years back that i remember, and we owe them.
dromore, different kettle of fish. good team and unlucky last year against Cross. pretty fit and have beaten all th good teams in Tyrone to get to the final.
Gaels beat us last year and truth be told we are stronger and panel is back to full strength. Playing the Gaels in their own back yard will make them favourites and Seanie is taking some scores lately, coupled with the high scoring final they had, I'd say its very even.
but i might have a go at the 10/1 for Dromore if i were betting
The game in Cookstown in '87 when Ardboe beat Galls is what I presume you are referring to?
Aye Loughshore lad, is that the pitch beside the cop shop and school?
some fisty cuffs and Ardboe came through in the end. how did they do that year?
Quote from: milltown row on October 10, 2009, 11:00:38 AM
Aye Loughshore lad, is that the pitch beside the cop shop and school?
some fisty cuffs and Ardboe came through in the end. how did they do that year?
Aye thats the pitch alright!
Burren beat Ardboe in Burren in the next game from memory that year.
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship:
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts 1-04 Naomh Colm Cille 4-12
Burt Hibernians 1-08 Rasharkin St Marys 1-10
Dia Domhnaigh 25-10-09
Final:
Rasharkin St Marys v Naomh Colum Cille
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Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship:
Semi Finals:
Middletown Na Fianna 2-13 Liatroim Fontenoys 1-11
Saint Galls v Eoghan Ruadh(Tyrone) (Dia Máirt 20-10-09 Athletic Grounds 7-30pm)
Dia Domhnaigh 25-10-09
Final
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Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Dungiven Kevin Lynch's 2-13 Ballycran St Josephs 2-16
Dia Domhnaigh 25-10-09
Final:
Dunloy Cúchullains v Ballycran St Josephs (Casement Park)
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Dia Domhnaigh 18-10-09
Ulster Senior Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels(Aye) v Saint Galls(Antrim) (Breffni Park 3-30pm)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Ballymaguigan Saint Treas(Derry) v Ballymartin Saint Josephs(Down) (Celtic Park 3-30pm)
Ulster Junior Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) v Glenn John Martins(Down) (O'Donnell Park 3-30pm)
Armagh Senior Football Championship Final:
Armagh Harps v Pearse Ógs (Athletic Grounds 4-00pm)
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Final:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa v Dromore Saint Dympnas (Omagh 4-00pm)
Kicks off today with Cavan hosting Galls - a revenge mission for the Belfast side after last year's smash and grab in Casement.
Dromore through from Tyrone, will be tough going for Clontibret, they came through one hell of a battle and never lay down. Will give them great confidence heading into ulster, I wonder how much their odds will drop?
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship:
Semi Finals:
Saint Galls v Eoghan Ruadh(Tyrone) (Dia Máirt 20-10-09 Athletic Grounds 7-30pm)
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Ulster Senior Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels 1-10 Saint Galls 1-12 (After Extra Time)
(Cavan Gaels 1-07 St Galls 1-07 Full Time)
Cavan Gaels (D Graham 0-1, C Collins 0-1, D Reilly 0-1, S Johnston 0-3, N Walsh 1-1, N Murray 0-1, P Smyth 0-1, P O'Donnell 0-1)
St Galls (T O'Neill 0-1, S Kelly 0-2, Rory Gallagher 0-2, CJ McGourty 1-4, K Stewart 0-2, M Kelly 0-1)
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Ballymaguigan Saint Treas 0-08 Ballymartin Saint Josephs 0-09
Ulster Junior Football Championship Preliminary Round:
Moville Bun an Phobail 5-06 Glenn John Martins 2-05
Armagh Senior Football Championship Final:
Armagh Harps 0-04 Pearse Ógs 0-08
Tyrone Senior Football Championship Final:
Ardboe O'Donovan Rossa 1-13 Dromore Saint Dympnas 1-14
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship:
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
(Ballymaguigan Saint Treas)Derry 0-08 Down(Ballymartin Saint Josephs) 0-09
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Newtown Saint Michaels)Armagh v Donegal(Gaeil Fhanada) (Athletic Grounds 2-30pm)
(Kinawley Brian Borus)Fermanagh v Cavan(Lavey Joe Biggars) (Brewster Park 2-30pm)
(Ahoghill Saint Marys)Antrim v Monaghan(Monaghan Harps) (Loughgiel 2-30pm)
Ballymartin St Josephs v Tyrone(Cookstown Father Rocks) (Páirc Esler 12-45pm)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Armagh/Donegal v Fermanagh/Cavan
Antrim/Monaghan v Tyrone/Down
Sunday November 29th:
Final
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Ulster Junior Football Club Championship:
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
(Moville Bun an Phobail)Donegal 5-06 Down(Glenn John Martins) 2-05
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Shane O'Neills)Armagh v Derry(Seán Dolans) (Athletic Grounds 12-45pm)
(Newtownstewart Saint Eugenes)Tyrone v Monaghan(Emyvale) (Omagh 2-30pm)
(St Teresas)Antrim v Cavan(Butlersbridge Emmetts) (Casement Park 12-45pm)
(Belnaleck Art McMurroughs)Fermanagh v Moville Bun an Phobail (Brewster Park 12-45pm)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Armagh/Derry v Tyrone/Monaghan
Antrim/Cavan v Fermanagh/Donegal
Sunday November 29th
Final
Sunday October 18th
Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels 1-10 Antrim (Saint Galls) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
(Cavan Gaels 1-07 St Galls 1-07 Full Time)
Sunday November 1st
Quarter Finals:
(Loup Saint Patricks) Derry v Fermanagh (Derrygonnelly Harps) (Celtic Park 2-30pm)
(Kilcoo Owen Roes) Down v Donegal (Naomh Adhamhnáin) (Páirc Esler 2-30pm)
(Clontibret O'Neills) Monaghan v Tyrone (Dromore Saint Dympnas) (Clones 2-30pm)
St Galls v Armagh (Pearse Óg) (Casement Park 2-30pm)
Sunday November 15th
Semi Finals:
Derry/Fermanagh v Down/Donegal
Monaghan/Tyrone v Armagh/Antrim
Sunday November 29th
Final:
Here's my predictions. Anyone know the odds???
(Loup Saint Patricks) Derry v Fermanagh (Derrygonnelly Harps) (Derry venue)
(Kilcoo Owen Roes) Down v Donegal (Naomh Adhamhnáin) (Down venue)
(Clontibret O'Neills) Monaghan v Tyrone (Dromore Saint Dympnas) (Monaghan venue)
St Galls v Armagh (Pearse Óg) (Antrim venue)
No odds up on paddy power on ladbrokes as yet UTB.
To win ulster you need a fair slice of luck i feel i.e the way it is ran of quit quickly keeping players free of injury and suspension is essential, especially if strength in depth is an issue.
Think st gall's are rightly favourites, coming through yesterdays battle should stand to them as they barely got out of 3rd gear in antrim. Ogs will celebrate well and rightly so, think galls will have too mcuh up front.
Dromore were very lucky to win yesterday but tough side of the draw.
Connor McManus has been on fire for Clontibret so alot of their hopes will be on him.
Loup are dogged and pretty experienced at grinding out results and with home advantage would be favoured to pass Derrygonnelly. Depends how much derrygonnelly really want it or just content with county championship.
Think kilcoo and eunan's is very hard to gauge.
Latest odds from Paddy Power
15/8 St Galls
4 Loup
5 St Eunans
11/2 Dromore
6 Pearse Ogs
6 Clontibret
16 Kilcoo
28 Derrygonnelly
Quote from: yellowcard on October 19, 2009, 03:00:28 PM
Latest odds from Paddy Power
15/8 St Galls
4 Loup
5 St Eunans
11/2 Dromore
6 Pearse Ogs
6 Clontibret
16 Kilcoo
28 Derrygonnelly
Dromore still look good value @ 11/2
Unreal how Dromore are seemingly unanimous favourites against Clontibret in Ulster, they were shorter odds for Ulster even before the final for a while. Sounds like they scraped through in a game Ardboe were very unlucky to lose, while Clontibret's demolition of the reigning champs in Monaghan was forgotton about not even a week later. Dromore hot favourites across the board, couldn't have asked for any more really.
aye but monaghan teams are never any good
I'd take a piece of that.
Clontibret aren't bad - but I do think it'll be close.
Clontibrets biggest problem is that according to the results in their run through Monaghan - no one got near enough to touch them at all.
Clontibret have the Mone's, your man Corey and Conor McManus seems to be hitting big totals every game for them. They won't be easy beat.
Not trying to take anything away from Dromore by the way, think they're a very good team and will be a tough proposition for anyone. And certainly not trying to play ourselves up, but I must admit I was a bit surprised at how some people think Dromore have it in the bag and are talking up a Dromore-Galls semi already(not specifically talking about here). Looking forward to the game and I think both teams are at that stage now that they're ready for a serious crack at Ulster after a few good years in their county championships.
The Konica, in the semi and final we won by good scores in the end alright(though we were behind at half time in the semi and it was a fantastic effort to turn it around), but I believe the turning point for us was the games against Blayney. Now they were real battles, we only got won by 2 pts after a replay and extra time. The replay was one of the best games I've seen in the county for a good while and that test has stood us in good stead ever since, and gave us great confidence to win the following two games, scoring well in the process. Step up now anyway, should be a good contest.
Quote from: Schkite on October 19, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Not trying to take anything away from Dromore by the way, think they're a very good team and will be a tough proposition for anyone. And certainly not trying to play ourselves up, but I must admit I was a bit surprised at how some people think Dromore have it in the bag and are talking up a Dromore-Galls semi already(not specifically talking about here). Looking forward to the game and I think both teams are at that stage now that they're ready for a serious crack at Ulster after a few good years in their county championships.
The Konica, in the semi and final we won by good scores in the end alright(though we were behind at half time in the semi and it was a fantastic effort to turn it around), but I believe the turning point for us was the games against Blayney. Now they were real battles, we only got won by 2 pts after a replay and extra time. The replay was one of the best games I've seen in the county for a good while and that test has stood us in good stead ever since, and gave us great confidence to win the following two games, scoring well in the process. Step up now anyway, should be a good contest.
Ah yes - just checked the scores again - Castlebaney must have been good
Quote from: Schkite on October 19, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Not trying to take anything away from Dromore by the way, think they're a very good team and will be a tough proposition for anyone. And certainly not trying to play ourselves up, but I must admit I was a bit surprised at how some people think Dromore have it in the bag and are talking up a Dromore-Galls semi already(not specifically talking about here). Looking forward to the game and I think both teams are at that stage now that they're ready for a serious crack at Ulster after a few good years in their county championships.
The Konica, in the semi and final we won by good scores in the end alright(though we were behind at half time in the semi and it was a fantastic effort to turn it around), but I believe the turning point for us was the games against Blayney. Now they were real battles, we only got won by 2 pts after a replay and extra time. The replay was one of the best games I've seen in the county for a good while and that test has stood us in good stead ever since, and gave us great confidence to win the following two games, scoring well in the process. Step up now anyway, should be a good contest.
Schkite, take a look at all the scores from some of the winners. St Galls, Cavan Gaels and the Donegal champs, they sailed through their county games. Come the Ulster championship teams rarely score more than 1-12.
Quote from: Captain Black on October 19, 2009, 05:46:10 PM
aye but monaghan teams are never any good
And where are you from? F**king Derry by any chance.
Ar***le!!
Quote from: milltown row on October 19, 2009, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 19, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Not trying to take anything away from Dromore by the way, think they're a very good team and will be a tough proposition for anyone. And certainly not trying to play ourselves up, but I must admit I was a bit surprised at how some people think Dromore have it in the bag and are talking up a Dromore-Galls semi already(not specifically talking about here). Looking forward to the game and I think both teams are at that stage now that they're ready for a serious crack at Ulster after a few good years in their county championships.
The Konica, in the semi and final we won by good scores in the end alright(though we were behind at half time in the semi and it was a fantastic effort to turn it around), but I believe the turning point for us was the games against Blayney. Now they were real battles, we only got won by 2 pts after a replay and extra time. The replay was one of the best games I've seen in the county for a good while and that test has stood us in good stead ever since, and gave us great confidence to win the following two games, scoring well in the process. Step up now anyway, should be a good contest.
Schkite, take a look at all the scores from some of the winners. St Galls, Cavan Gaels and the Donegal champs, they sailed through their county games. Come the Ulster championship teams rarely score more than 1-12.
Eh, that's nothing to do with the original point I was making. The only reason I was talking about scores is because Konica was saying noone got close to us, and I was saying that the Blayney game was very tight and gave us confidence for the next two games. I'm well aware of the low-scoring nature of Ulster games.
who won the galls hurling game last nite
Dia Máirt 20/10/09
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Semi Final:
Eoghan Ruadh 1-06 St Galls 5-14
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Dia Domhnaigh 25/10/09
Ulster Junior Hurling Championship Final:
Rasharkin St Marys v Naomh Colum Cille (Casement Park 12-45pm)
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Final:
Dunloy Cúchullains v Ballycran St Josephs (Casement Park 2-30pm)
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Championship Final:
Middletown Na Fianna v St Galls (Páirc Esler Newry 2-30pm)
Extra hour's sleep offset by earlier throw in times though St Galls also have to adjust to daylight.
Pearse Ogs V St Galls, Day, Time and Venue anyone?
Ulster Club Senior Football Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Clontibret (Monaghan) Dromore (Tyrone) St. Tiernachs Park Clones Mona 01/11/2009 14:30 Jimmy White Q-Final
Loup (Derry) Derrygonnelly (Fermanagh) Celtic Park Derry 01/11/2009 14:30 Jimmy McKee Q-Final
Kilcoo (Down) St Eunans (Donegal) Pairc Esler Newry Down 01/11/2009 14:30 Martin Sludden Q-Final
Pearse Og (Armagh) St Galls (Antrim) Casement Park Belfast Antrim 01/11/2009 14:30 Con Reynolds Q-Final
Ulster Club Intermediate Football Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
Cookstown (Tyrone) Ballymartin (Down) Pairc Esler Newry Down 01/11/2009 12:45 Gregory Walsh Q-Final
Ahoghill (Antrim) Monaghan Harps (Monaghan) Loughgiel 01/11/2009 14:30 Leo Smyth Q-Final
St Michaels (Armagh) Fanad Gaels (Donegal) Athletic Grounds Armagh 01/11/2009 14:30 Gavin Corrigan Q-Final
Kinawley (Fermanagh) Lavey (Cavan) Brewster Park Enniskillen Ferm 01/11/2009 14:30 Ciaran Branagan Q-Final
Ulster Club Junior Football Championship
Team 1 Team 2 Venue Date Time Referee Comment
St Teresas (Antrim) Butlersbridge (Cavan) Casement Park Belfast Antrim 01/11/2009 12:45 Barry Cassidy Q-Final
Shane ONeills (Armagh) Sean Dolans (Derry) Athletic Grounds Armagh 01/11/2009 12:45 Eugene McConnell Q-Final
Belnaleck (Fermanagh) Moville (Donegal) Brewster Park Enniskillen Ferm 01/11/2009 12:45 Eamon McHugh Q-Final
Newtownstewart (Tyrone) Emyvale (Monaghan) Healy Park Omagh Tyrone 01/11/2009 14:30 Raymond Doone Q-Final
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Quote from: Schkite on October 19, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
Not trying to take anything away from Dromore by the way, think they're a very good team and will be a tough proposition for anyone. And certainly not trying to play ourselves up, but I must admit I was a bit surprised at how some people think Dromore have it in the bag and are talking up a Dromore-Galls semi already(not specifically talking about here). Looking forward to the game and I think both teams are at that stage now that they're ready for a serious crack at Ulster after a few good years in their county championships.
The Konica, in the semi and final we won by good scores in the end alright(though we were behind at half time in the semi and it was a fantastic effort to turn it around), but I believe the turning point for us was the games against Blayney. Now they were real battles, we only got won by 2 pts after a replay and extra time. The replay was one of the best games I've seen in the county for a good while and that test has stood us in good stead ever since, and gave us great confidence to win the following two games, scoring well in the process. Step up now anyway, should be a good contest.
Clontibret are favs with most bookies and are the biggest movers in the outright all ireland and ulster betting, so i don't think there's too many (with much of a clue) talking about the 'dream' semi between galls and dromore.
Well Dromore would have to be favourites now anyway, JP Mone and Conor McManus out injured. :-\ Two big men to be missing, it leaves a big gap both in midfield and attack.
Quote from: Schkite on October 26, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
Well Dromore would have to be favourites now anyway, JP Mone and Conor McManus out injured. :-\ Two big men to be missing, it leaves a big gap both in midfield and attack.
did you mean to put one of these in after the JP Mone and McManus out injured ;) ;) ;)
Quote from: Bogball XV on October 26, 2009, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Schkite on October 26, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
Well Dromore would have to be favourites now anyway, JP Mone and Conor McManus out injured. :-\ Two big men to be missing, it leaves a big gap both in midfield and attack.
did you mean to put one of these in after the JP Mone and McManus out injured ;) ;) ;)
I wish I was joking! Not sure just how bad the injuries are but to be ready in a week is asking too much.
Any games on the box?
Home Draw Away
14:30 Pearse Og v St. Galls 9/4 13/2 4/9
14:30 Clontibret v Dromore evens 13/2 evens
14:30 Loup v Derrygonnelly 2/7 8/1 3/1
14:30 Kilcoo v St. Eunans 13/8 13/2 8/13
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports
I really don't know how anyone could pick a favourite for the Clontibert Dromore game. What's that based on (apart from Schkite's recent report)
Those odds would be right with both teams at full strength, I just feel the injuries we have currently tips the scales in Dromore's favour.
Given what you've said I'll be doing Dromore, St Gall's, The Loup and St Eunan's.
Quote from: ExiledGael on October 26, 2009, 09:32:06 PM
Given what you've said I'll be doing Dromore, St Gall's, The Loup and St Eunan's.
galls are at home as well aren't they?? Loup are dodgy favs (boyles have them at 1/7!!), but Derrygonnelly may be very poor, and Eunan's are traditionally content with a county title (see mattock rangers presumably), Kilcoo didn't look too bad from what i saw of them in the down final either.
Club Football - 2009 Provincial Ulster Club Football Championship - (Tournament winner)
Sunday 1st of November, 2009
Time Selection Odds
10:00 St Galls Antrim 5/2
Loup Derry 9/2
Dromore Tyrone 5/1
Pierse Og Armagh 6/1
St Eunans Donegal 6/1
Clontibret Monaghan 8/1
Kilcoo Down 20/1
Derrygonnelly Fermanagh 33/1 atLadbrokes
Quote from: Schkite on October 26, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
Those odds would be right with both teams at full strength, I just feel the injuries we have currently tips the scales in Dromore's favour.
Speaking of odds are you willing to offer odds that Mone and McManus won't play???
Having originally fancied Clontibret to beat Dromore I believe that now without Mone and more especially McManus that Dromore are a great bet at Evens to win this game.
Quote from: tyssam5 on October 27, 2009, 10:32:46 AM
Quote from: Schkite on October 26, 2009, 09:27:34 PM
Those odds would be right with both teams at full strength, I just feel the injuries we have currently tips the scales in Dromore's favour.
Speaking of odds are you willing to offer odds that Mone and McManus won't play???
Well JP had a knee operation recently, and despite how badly he will want to recover in time that's highly unlikely. And McManus went off injured in the league semi-final on Sunday with a suspected fractured arm, and even if it's not that bad it still looked too bad to be ready in a week's time. That's the extent of my knowledge, unless it's some big elaborate plan that's being kept within the panel which I doubt! I hope the injuries are being exaggerated, it would be fantastic news if even one of them were fit enough to play some part but at this moment it would seem it's too soon for both. We're not a one man team, but that's two huge players to be missing when going into a tough Ulster game. JP's experience will be missed badly in midfield and he's had a fine year, but missing McManus up front especially is the killer. We've other good forwards, including current and past county players, but McManus has been the player of the year in Monaghan and top scorer by quite a margin. He's racked up big scores in every game and everything good in an attacking sense has gone through him. Just saying that to show what a loss he'll be for us. The other lads will just have to step it up and try and fill the void, and the defence in particular will have to keep Dromore to as low a score as possible if we're to have a chance.
Quote from: Zapatista on October 26, 2009, 08:11:40 PM
Home Draw Away
14:30 Pearse Og v St. Galls 9/4 13/2 4/9
14:30 Clontibret v Dromore evens 13/2 evens
14:30 Loup v Derrygonnelly 2/7 8/1 3/1
14:30 Kilcoo v St. Eunans 13/8 13/2 8/13
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports
I really don't know how anyone could pick a favourite for the Clontibert Dromore game. What's that based on (apart from Schkite's recent report)
There is usually a draw or two in the quarter final ties!!!!
fancy the ogs to win by 1 in low scoring game, with ogs defence able to curtail the galls forwards. their defence has been o/s all year holding cross to 4 and harps to 4.
Quote from: thewanderer on October 28, 2009, 02:03:13 PM
fancy the ogs to win by 1 in low scoring game, with ogs defence able to curtail the galls forwards. their defence has been o/s all year holding cross to 4 and harps to 4.
Fancy ST Galls. by 5 points
Knowing you Kaaat ,you would fancy all the st galls boys. 1st into the shower and last out ;D
Club Football - (Match betting)
Sunday 1st of November, 2009
Time Match Home Draw Away More bets Stats
Kilcoo vs St Eunan's - (Ulster Club Championship) 13/8 7/1 4/7
14:30 Clontribet vs Dromore - (Ulster Club Championship) 11/8 13/2 8/11
14:30 St Galls vs Pearse Og - (Ulster Club Championship) 2/5 13/2 5/2
14:30 Loup vs Derrygoneely - (Ulster Club Championship) 1/5 8/1 4/1
Dromore by 3
St Galls by 4
Loup by 5
Kilcoo draw
any games on TG4?
Dromore by 1
Ogs by 3
Loup by 6
St Eunans by 1
Quote from: milltown row on October 28, 2009, 09:11:53 PM
Dromore by 3
St Galls by 4
Loup by 5
Kilcoo draw
any games on TG4?
I'd agree with them, but Dromore to draw too, beware the team with 'injuries'. Re TG4 and tv coverage, apparently they're planning to show deferred coverage of the final, if it doesn't clash with a munster first round hurling game that is (although this weeks munster hurling match should be a cracker).
Dromore by 2
Galls by 3
Loup by 10
Eunan's by 3
Dromore by 4
St. Galls by 5
Loup by 3
Kilcoo by 2
I'm loving all the Dromore predictions! Though to be fair it's all pointing in that direction. :-\
St Gall's by 4
Dromore by 1
The Loup by 7
Kilcoo St Eunan's draw
it looks like the ogs shouldnt bother to turn up too ;)
Quote from: thewanderer on October 29, 2009, 01:42:57 PM
it looks like the ogs shouldnt bother to turn up too ;)
course they should turn up, just because they beat Cross on their way to the Armagh Championship doesn't mean they will be a good bet to win on Sunday. thats like saying, had Portglenone beat Naomh gall in Antrim that they would be a good bet for Ulster. (no offence to Portglenone)
people are predicting a galls win based on past performances in Ulster, Ogs to their credit last appeared in an Ulster final in 92. so you can see why 'others' are going for a Galls win.
those odds are false, in my eyes anyway.
Looks like the money is talking in the Dromore v Clontibret game. Clontibret can be backed at 8/5 with Bet 365 having started the week at evens. Massive drift in odds which suggests only one outcome.
The value bet has to Pearse Ogs at a ridiculously big 11/4 with Paddy Power. An Armagh team will have no fear against an Antrim side and with a very tight defence they must have a good chance of getting past an over-rated St Galls outfit. Thats where my money will be going this weekend anyway.
Ulster Senior Hurling Club Championship Final:
Dunloy Cúchullains 2-16 Ballycran St Josephs 2-11
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship Final:
St Galls 5-11 Middletown Na Fianna 0-12
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship:
Rasharkin St Marys 2-14 Naomh Colum Cille 4-10 (a cracker)
(quote KIDDO 4)
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship
(Monaghan)Clontibret O'Neills v Dromore St Dympnas(Tyrone) Clones 14:30 Jimmy White
(Derry)Loup St Patricks v Derrygonnelly Harps(Fermanagh) Celtic Park 14:30 Jimmy McKee
(Down)Kilcoo Owen Roes v Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) Páirc Esler Newry 14:30 Martin Sludden
(Antrim)St Galls v Pearse Óg(Armagh) Casement Park 14:30 Con Reynolds
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs v Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) Páirc Esler Newry 12:45 Gregory Walsh
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys v Monaghan Harps Loughgiel 14:30 Leo Smyth
(Armagh)Newtown St Michaels v Gaeil Fhanada(Donegal) Athletic Grounds 14:30 Gavin Corrigan
(Fermanagh)Kinawley Brian Borus v Lavey Joe Biggars(Cavan) Brewster Park 14:30 Ciaran Branagan
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship
(Antrim)St Teresas v Butlersbridge Emmetts(Cavan) Casement Park 12:45 Barry Cassidy
(Armagh)Shane ONeills v Seán Dolans(Derry) Athletic Grounds 12:45 Eugene McConnell
(Fermanagh)Belnaleck Art McMurroughs v Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) Brewster Park 12:45 Eamon McHugh
(Tyrone)Newtownstewart St Eugenes v Emyvale (Monaghan) Healy Park Omagh 14:30 Raymond Doone
See the fixtures list provided by the Ulster Council now comes with an "Extra Time if required" message which was not there before the first three Preliminary Round games.
Danny Murphy seems to have told John Campbell "This was made very clear before the current competition got underway. No-one should be in any doubt." (This was after the Cavan Gaels v St Galls match had taken place and gone to Extra Time).
A free pint in Casey on Sunday to the 1st poster who can find the "made very clear" being on the internet before the Preliminary Round match. (There was no mention in either Gaelic Life or the Irish News beforehand either).
Does anyone know the price into Casement tomorrow? Heard that it was £15 and I think that is a ridiculous price >:( Can anyone confirm that for me?
Quote from: ogshead on October 31, 2009, 10:42:24 PM
Does anyone know the price into Casement tomorrow? Heard that it was £15 and I think that is a ridiculous price >:( Can anyone confirm that for me?
I assume that is into the covered stand.
Well worth it as the weather forecast is not good at all. Strong winds and very heavy rain throughout the afternoon.
To tell the truth, if it is £15 in tomorrow it f***in disgrace. I had heard reports in the last couple of years of people giving out about prices in to Ulster club matches. In the current economic climate, the ulster council are taking the hand out of loyal supporters. I will be there though cheerin the lads on :)
Will St Galls turn up though?
Quote from: ogshead on October 31, 2009, 10:42:24 PM
Does anyone know the price into Casement tomorrow? Heard that it was £15 and I think that is a ridiculous price >:( Can anyone confirm that for me?
Was gonna head up, but with that price and the weather forecast I'm beginning to have second thoughts.
Are there student rates at these games, the out of date student card could be worth a try. Why is this pretty basic info never available on the website, or anywhere else for that matter?
all ulster club games off apparantly
Weather hits Ulster GAA matches
The Loup v Derrygonnelly game is the only AIB Ulster Senior Club Football tie still on following overnight rain.
St Gall's clash with Pearse Og at Casement, Clontribret v Dromore at Clones and Kilcoo v St Eunan's at Newry have all fallen victim to the weather.
All Ulster intermediate and junior championship games scheduled for Casement, Newry, Loughgiel and Omagh have also been postponed.
The game between Kilcoo and St Eunan's will take place at Newry next Sunday.
More details to follow.
Quote from: Shortso79 on November 01, 2009, 11:02:13 AM
Weather hits Ulster GAA matches
The Loup v Derrygonnelly game is the only AIB Ulster Senior Club Football tie still on following overnight rain.
St Gall's clash with Pearse Og at Casement, Clontribret v Dromore at Clones and Kilcoo v St Eunan's at Newry have all fallen victim to the weather.
All Ulster intermediate and junior championship games scheduled for Casement, Newry, Loughgiel and Omagh have also been postponed.
The game between Kilcoo and St Eunan's will take place at Newry next Sunday.
More details to follow.
Hardly surprising. Some rainfall last night and it's still coming down. Yesterday was some day too.
christ, we could have played our under 21 game!!
Quote from: milltown row on November 01, 2009, 11:41:27 AM
christ, we could have played our under 21 game!!
With Burke and McGourty or without?
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Newtown St Michaels 1-07 Gaeil Fhanada(Donegal) 2-08
(Fermanagh)Kinawley Brian Borus 0-13 Lavey Joe Biggars(Cavan) 0-15
Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhanada v Lavey Joe Biggars
Antrim/Monaghan v Tyrone /Down
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Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Shane O'Neills 2-12 Seán Dolans(Derry) 0-09
(Fermanagh)Belnaleck Art McMurroughs 1-04 Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) 1-14
Semi Finals:
Shane O'Neills v Tyrone/Monaghan
Moville Bun an Phobail v Antrim/Cavan
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Dia Sathairn 07-11-09
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Quarter Final:
(Tyrone)Newtownstewart St Eugenes 0-08 Emyvale(Monaghan) 0-09
Dia Domhnaigh 08-11-09
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Monaghan)Clontibret O'Neills v Dromore St Dympnas(Tyrone) Clones 14:30 Jimmy White
(Derry)Loup St Patricks v Derrygonnelly Harps(Fermanagh) Celtic Park 14:30 Jimmy McKee
(Down)Kilcoo Owen Roes v Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) Páirc Esler Newry 14:30 Martin Sludden
(Antrim)St Galls v Pearse Óg(Armagh) Casement Park 14:30 Con Reynolds
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs v Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) Páirc Esler Newry 12:45 Gregory Walsh
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys v Monaghan Harps Loughgiel 14:30 Leo Smyth
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Quarter Finall:
(Antrim)St Teresas v Butlersbridge Emmetts(Cavan) Casement Park 12:45 Barry Cassidy
Extra Time in all matches if required.
Miserable conditions again. Can we expect all the games to go ahead this weekend?
Quote from: Zapatista on November 06, 2009, 08:29:06 AM
Miserable conditions again. Can we expect all the games to go ahead this weekend?
Are the Semi-finals still fixed for next weekend?
I don't know Leo. I've heard no different.
With conditions looking poor for this weekend a couple of draws (And there are some tasty ties there) could leave some teamd playing 3-4 weekends in a row. A big test of a panels strength in depth and the endurance of key performers.
A week ago I felt Dromore would beat Clontibret handy enough. Now I am not too sure, the extra week will have given JP Mone and Conor McManus good recovery time. Could be a close thing!
Quote from: redhandloo on November 06, 2009, 10:58:16 AM
A week ago I felt Dromore would beat Clontibret handy enough. Now I am not too sure, the extra week will have given JP Mone and Conor McManus good recovery time. Could be a close thing!
A week is little good for the boys considering the injuries they have. Perhaps JP may be able to take a bench spot at a stretch, but the only thing that's different with McManus now is that he's had a broken wrist for two weeks instead of one, hardly a significant advantage over last week. I'll tell you this though, Dromore may beat Clontibret, but this Clontibret team won't be beaten handy at all, by Dromore or anyone else for that matter. Either way it'll be low scoring I'd imagine, bad weather all week and I wouldn't say the Clones pitch will be in good nick at all.
Any idea what the weather has been doing up in Clones the last few days?
Well it's been crap weather all week round here in general so I'd imagine the same would probably apply to Clones and the pitch will be in fairly poor condition. Bad choice of venue anyway considering the recent rain.
Naomh Adhamhnáin who stayed in the Armagh City Hotel last Saturday night before heading into Newry on Sunday have decided just to travel straight from Donegal to Páirc Esler the marra.
Fantastic Day in Newry today - sun is shining
All the best to Kilcoo and the Ogs today
st eunans, dromore, pearse ogs and loup
Half Times
Loup 0-07 Derrygonnelly 0-06
Kilcoo 0-06 St Eunans 0-04
St Galls 0-06 Ogs 0-04
Clontibret 0-06 Dromore 0-04
Three same half time scores
kilcoo up by three, will be very good result for them if they win
Full Time
St Galls 0-10 Ogs 0-08
Clontibret 0-10 Dromore 0-08
Loup 1-10 Derrygonnelly 1-6
Kilcoo 0-13 St Eunans 0-09
Semi Finals
Clontibret v St Galls
Kilcoo v Loup
some odds on that last 4 at the start of the season !
where will these be at ? Omagh for Galls match and Athletic Grounds for the other ?
fancy clontibret for ulster. havta be a very good team to beat dromore. howd mc manus manage to play today, thought he broke his wrist? or was it bull?
Well done the Magpies & St Galls. Prediction: this pair will provide our Ulster Champions 09.
What price can I get on Kilcoo fopr Ulster?.
mc manus is some free taker, difference betwen the two teams today
Quote from: randomtask on November 08, 2009, 04:20:03 PM
fancy clontibret for ulster. havta be a very good team to beat dromore. howd mc manus manage to play today, thought he broke his wrist? or was it bull?
Yeah he broke his wrist alright, but had the cast took of this morning apparently and it was heavily bandaged. Fair play to the lad for having the balls to come out and play only 2 weeks after the break, and playing well enough considering. 4 or 5 points, solid frees and a great one from play. It'll be tough for him now having played a full game and Galls coming up in a week's time, but he'll do his best.
Great result, good end to end game and thankfully we came out on the right side. After going 4 pts up straight away and then up 5 early in the second half, things looked good. But credit to Dromore, their fighting spirit showed once again and it was a very nervy finish. We missed a few very scorable chances at times when it could have gave us a bit of a lift, but things were tight up front. Both defences looked good I thought. No doubt Dromore will be back up there next year and will be favourites for Tyrone, very good team.
Very good performance from Clontibret, well done.
Dromore tried their best to make up the hard points on the heavy pitch.
Clontibret v Dromore was a close fought typical Ulster Club c'ship game and fair dues to McManus for playing the way he did through the pain. It will be some battle with them and St Galls next week. I'd imagine St Galls will be favourites but I think the winner of this game will be Ulster Champions this year.
Well done to Kilcoo. What a show off football.
Quote from: yellowcard on November 08, 2009, 05:38:40 PM
Clontibret v Dromore was a close fought typical Ulster Club c'ship game and fair dues to McManus for playing the way he did through the pain. It will be some battle with them and St Galls next week. I'd imagine St Galls will be favourites but I think the winner of this game will be Ulster Champions this year.
Having been at the Ogs v St Galls game today, I'd say St Galls have gone backwards from the team that contested an AIF a while back. Ogs should have won, missed a sitter with a few mins to go and hit too many shots wide or dropped them into the keeper's hands.
I'd imagine Grimley will be onto his fellow Ogs clubmen now to get the full dossier on St Galls in preparation for the semi-final..
Where is the St Galls v Clontibret game?
Quote from: bennydorano on November 08, 2009, 05:52:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 08, 2009, 05:38:40 PM
Clontibret v Dromore was a close fought typical Ulster Club c'ship game and fair dues to McManus for playing the way he did through the pain. It will be some battle with them and St Galls next week. I'd imagine St Galls will be favourites but I think the winner of this game will be Ulster Champions this year.
Having been at the Ogs v St Galls game today, I'd say St Galls have gone backwards from the team that contested an AIF a while back. Ogs should have won, missed a sitter with a few mins to go and hit too many shots wide or dropped them into the keeper's hands.
After watching that today I'd say St Galls are still very much favourites for Ulster. Is Kevin McGourty the boy running for Fine Fail? He did some mouthing today.
What part of of Milltown does Rory Gallagher live in?
Anyone got odds for Ulster now?
Clontibert may be a good shout for it.
Congratulations to Clontibert in winning a good game of football in tough conditions.
Clontibert were out of the blocks early and stormed into a good 4 point lead before Dromore replied. Dromore fought back and brought it to two points at the break. I wasn't too worried at that stage as Dromore fininshed the half strong. Clonibert started really well again hitting two and puting themselves in a great position. Dromore came back at them and pushed very hard wining in defence and getting a better grip in mid field. When clontibert dominated in parts they did so all over the field. When Dromore dominated Clontibert defended very well. Dromore dominated most of the second half but were shooting under pressure and sometimes foreced into decision making. Clontiberts attacks were more economical and accurate.
It was encouraging to see Dromore push all the way to the end in a very tough battle but they were always chasing the game and Clontibert seemed to get it right in front of goal.
Clontibert were very impressive and good luck to them in the rest of the Champioship.
Kilcoo were 20 to 1 for Ulster with Sean Graham before today. Ridiculous odds but we'll see.
Quote from: Zapatista on November 08, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
Congratulations to Clontibert in winning a good game of football in tough conditions.
Clontibert were out of the blocks early and stormed into a good 4 point lead before Dromore replied. Dromore fought back and brought it to two points at the break. I wasn't too worried at that stage as Dromore fininshed the half strong. Clonibert started really well again hitting two and puting themselves in a great position. Dromore came back at them and pushed very hard wining in defence and getting a better grip in mid field. When clontibert dominated in parts they did so all over the field. When Dromore dominated Clontibert defended very well. Dromore dominated most of the second half but were shooting under pressure and sometimes foreced into decision making. Clontiberts attacks were more economical and accurate.
It was encouraging to see Dromore push all the way to the end in a very tough battle but they were always chasing the game and Clontibert seemed to get it right in front of goal.
Clontibert were very impressive and good luck to them in the rest of the Champioship.
I don't hear you complaining about the ref. I see another poster on Tyrone thread complaining about the ref. Did you think he undone Dromore?
Not at all. He got some decisions wrong but I think Clontibert got the better of us and it's credit to them they won not the ref.
Is how I saw it but was only watching it on TV. Anyway you are a magnanamous loser...fair play to you.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on November 08, 2009, 07:55:18 PM
Is how I saw it but was only watching it on TV. Anyway you are a magnanamous loser...fair play to you.
The Bastards!!!! >:( >:(
:D
Quote from: Banna Man on November 08, 2009, 05:46:39 PM
Well done to Kilcoo. What a show off football.
Ye reckon???
I thought at times we were quite poor in their half. Sure, some good individual displays, but as a unit, our forward line never really functioned. We never cut to the core of Eunans once.
None of the fast flowing football in the final third that has been produced earlier in the year - although the heavy pitch may be a big factor in that.
The defence came onto a game at the end, but up front, much margin for improvement IMO (not that that's a bad thing).
was not at the game today, but some were saying we were shite.
Clontibert on todays performance should beat us handy next week. Ogs should have put that chance away near the end.
Obviously the tough season has taken its toll and a fresh Monaghan team should win next week in Armagh.....
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 10:07:27 PM
was not at the game today, but some were saying we were shite.
Clontibert on todays performance should beat us handy next week. Ogs should have put that chance away near the end.
Obviously the tough season has taken its toll and a fresh Monaghan team should win next week in Armagh.....
I'm not sure of your situation but Clontibert can't be considered fresh. The changes they made reflected their injury worries and it was a tough game today in which they are bound to have picked up a few bruises. Dromore looked fitter as the game was closing. Clontibert played a smart game and were aided by a strong bench from what I seen.
Have to say I thought Clontibret looked very good today. Resilient and have a few players, McManus in particular, who can take a score.
I think St Galls may get beat in this one though I hope I'm wrong. JP Mone will likely get fitter the next day.
On a side note Dessie Mone once again got his man sent off today - a recurring theme. Him and the McGourtys against each other should be fun to watch.
Still an outside chance of a repeat of Loup - St Galls final though...
Is the Gall's v Clontibret fixed for next sunday in Armagh?
yes next sunday at the Athletic Gounds
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 11:57:01 PM
yes next sunday at the Athletic Gounds
is the other match in omagh?
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2009, 10:24:41 PM
On a side note Dessie Mone once again got his man sent off today - a recurring theme.
How?
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 10:07:27 PM
was not at the game today, but some were saying we were shite.
Clontibert on todays performance should beat us handy next week. Ogs should have put that chance away near the end.
Obviously the tough season has taken its toll and a fresh Monaghan team should win next week in Armagh.....
Hardly worth your while turning up eh! ;)
But I suppose yez will go along just for the day out, give it a lash and all that.
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 10:07:27 PM
was not at the game today, but some were saying we were shite.
Clontibert on todays performance should beat us handy next week. Ogs should have put that chance away near the end.
Obviously the tough season has taken its toll and a fresh Monaghan team should win next week in Armagh.....
The bookies don't agree, St Galls now hot favourites
Latest Odds
6/4 St Galls
11/4 Loup
11/4 Clontibret
9/2 Kilcoo
Good price for Kilcoo.
Quote from: Zapatista on November 08, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
Congratulations to Clontibert in winning a good game of football in tough conditions.
Clontibert were out of the blocks early and stormed into a good 4 point lead before Dromore replied. Dromore fought back and brought it to two points at the break. I wasn't too worried at that stage as Dromore fininshed the half strong. Clonibert started really well again hitting two and puting themselves in a great position. Dromore came back at them and pushed very hard wining in defence and getting a better grip in mid field. When clontibert dominated in parts they did so all over the field. When Dromore dominated Clontibert defended very well. Dromore dominated most of the second half but were shooting under pressure and sometimes foreced into decision making. Clontiberts attacks were more economical and accurate.
It was encouraging to see Dromore push all the way to the end in a very tough battle but they were always chasing the game and Clontibert seemed to get it right in front of goal.
Clontibert were very impressive and good luck to them in the rest of the Champioship.
Mickey Garry not as influential as previous games and Dromore did not get Shaun O'Neill and Ronan McNabb on the ball ofter enough as they always looked like they could do something. McCusker and Snowy were well marshalled while Conor McManus gave cathal McCarron bother all day and it is the first time I have seen Fabian O'Neill struggling as badly.
Thought the first 10 minutes of the second half were the turning point of the match, Clontibrets dominance at this point undid the previous 20 minutes fight back by Dromore and some of the Dromore players almost looked beaten at that point but they roused themselves for the last 15 and but for some unforced errors could have levelled it.
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Newtown St Michaels 1-07 Gaeil Fhánada(Donegal) 2-08
(Fermanagh)Kinawley Brian Borus 0-13 Lavey Joe Biggars(Cavan) 0-15
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs 0-08 Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) 2-09
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys 1-09 Monaghan Harps 1-10
Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhánada v Lavey Joe Biggars
Monaghan Harps v Cookstown Father Rocks
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Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Shane O'Neills 2-12 Seán Dolans(Derry) 0-09
(Fermanagh)Belnaleck Art McMurroughs 1-04 Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) 1-14
(Tyrone)Newtownstewart St Eugenes 0-08 Emyvale(Monaghan) 0-09
(Antrim)St Teresas 1-07 Butlersbridge Emmetts(Cavan) 0-08
Semi Finals:
Shane O'Neills v Emyvale
Moville Bun an Phobail v St Teresas
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Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Quarter Finals:
(Derry)Loup St Patricks 1-10 Derrygonnelly Harps(Fermanagh) 1-06
Loup 1-10 (J McBride 0-1, A McAlynn 1-0, P McFlynn 0-5(3 frees), G Mallon 0-1, S McFlynn 0-1( a free), Declan McVey 0-2)
Derrygonnelly 1-06 (R Jones 0-4(all frees), P Ward 0-1(a free), K Cassidy 0-1)
(Down)Kilcoo Owen Roes 0-13 Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) 0-09
Kilcoo 0-13 (M McClean 0-1, P Devlin 0-6(2 frees, 1 fifty), B Kane 0-2, D Kane 0-3(all frees), A Devlin 0-1)
Naomh Adhamhnáin 0-09 (K Rafferty 0-1, M McGowan 0-1, C Dunne 0-5(4 frees), B Devenney 0-1, C Sharkey 0-1)
(Monaghan)Clontibret O'Neills 0-10 Dromore St Dympnas(Tyrone) 0-08
Clontibret 0-10 (P McGuigan 0-2(1 fifty), F Mone 0-1, C Mc,Manus 0-5(4 frees), JP Mone 0-2)
Dromore 0-08 (C McCullagh 0-3(all frees), E McCusker 0-4(2 frees), S O'Neill 0-1)
(Antrim)St Galls 0-10 Pearse Óg(Armagh) 0-08
St Galls 0-10 (S Kelly 0-1, S Burke 0-1, Kieran McGourty 0-2, Rory Gallagher 0-1, CJ McGourty 0-3(2 frees),K Niblock 0-1(a free) K Stewart 0-1)
Pearse Óg 0-08 (P Duffy 0-2(1 fifty), R Clarke 0-2, D McManus 0-1, M Cullen 0-1(a free) C Clarke 0-1(a free), S Moore 0-1)
Semi Finals:
Loup St Patricks v Kilcoo Owen Roes
Clontibret O'Neills v St Galls
Quote from: milltown row on November 08, 2009, 10:07:27 PM
was not at the game today, but some were saying we were shite.
Clontibert on todays performance should beat us handy next week. Ogs should have put that chance away near the end.
Obviously the tough season has taken its toll and a fresh Monaghan team should win next week in Armagh.....
:D Don't worry, yous are hot favourites and we're underdogs again. That was a tough game yesterday and we picked up another couple of knocks to go along with McManus and JP being less than fully fit. We're far from fresh, and we're coming up against one of the favourites for the AI, nevermind Ulster. We're very much up against it, but sure all we can do is give it a lash.
How many st galls lads actually play for antrim or are on the sqaud as a matter of interest?
Currently with antrim:
McClean
burke
a gallagher
o'neill
niblock
brady
not on squad but have plaed championship football in the past for antrim
3 mcgoartys
k stewart
o'hare
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 08, 2009, 10:24:41 PM
Have to say I thought Clontibret looked very good today. Resilient and have a few players, McManus in particular, who can take a score.
I think St Galls may get beat in this one though I hope I'm wrong. JP Mone will likely get fitter the next day.
On a side note Dessie Mone once again got his man sent off today - a recurring theme. Him and the McGourtys against each other should be fun to watch.
Still an outside chance of a repeat of Loup - St Galls final though...
Ah Dessie's reputation precedes him again, I'd really love to what what exactly he did to ensure McCullagh got sent off. McCullagh elbowed him in the face right in front of the ref after a minor tussle, which opened his nose up and forced us to use a blood sub while he was cleaned up and got another jersey. And yet McCullagh was sent off for a second yellow for giving out to the ref apparently. Don't think McCullagh is a dirty player, not what I've seen of him anyway, but it would appear in this case he only has himself to blame.
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 09, 2009, 11:22:56 AM
Currently with antrim:
McClean
burke
a gallagher
o'neill
niblock
brady
not on squad but have plaed championship football in the past for antrim
3 mcgoartys
k stewart
o'hare
Good starting point for antrim. But they need a few more clubs to get to that standard.
cargin are n a similar footing but not quite as good as galls. st brigids are in their infancy as a club but are very strong given where they've come from.
Quote from: Zapatista on November 08, 2009, 10:21:54 PM
I'm not sure of your situation but Clontibert can't be considered fresh. The changes they made reflected their injury worries and it was a tough game today in which they are bound to have picked up a few bruises. Dromore looked fitter as the game was closing. Clontibert played a smart game and were aided by a strong bench from what I seen.
I would question just how much the strong bench aided Clontibret as they effectively only replaced one from the starting 15.
JP Mone came on but was replaced later by a sub, the third sub came on in the last seconds.
More than a few of the Clontibret players were out on their feet in the last 15 minutes.
Grimley is a hard taskmaster.
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 09, 2009, 11:22:56 AM
Currently with antrim:
McClean
burke
a gallagher
o'neill
niblock
brady
not on squad but have plaed championship football in the past for antrim
3 mcgoartys
k stewart
o'hare
Can't remember Karl Stewart ever playing Championship football for Antrim.
You also missed Sean Kelly, probably the most talented of all the St. Gall's men.
Match betting on PP:
St Galls 8/15
Clontibret 15/8
Draw 13/2
Loup 8/13
Kilcoo 13/8
Draw 13/2
Quote from: Schkite on November 09, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Match betting on PP:
St Galls 8/15
Clontibret 15/8
Draw 13/2
Loup 8/13
Kilcoo 13/8
Draw 13/2
Decent double on the underdogs there.
Match betting on Ladbrokes:
St Galls 4/9
Clontibret 9/4
Draw 13/2
Loup 4/6
Kilcoo 6/4
Draw 13/2
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 09, 2009, 12:05:24 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on November 09, 2009, 11:22:56 AM
Currently with antrim:
McClean
burke
a gallagher
o'neill
niblock
brady
not on squad but have plaed championship football in the past for antrim
3 mcgoartys
k stewart
o'hare
Can't remember Karl Stewart ever playing Championship football for Antrim.
You also missed Sean Kelly, probably the most talented of all the St. Gall's men.
How could i miss kelly - best footballer in antrim.
fairly sure stewart has played all right
Stewart has never played championship for Antrim. I don't even think he's played in the league though I think he has played McKenna cup.
They also have one current Fermanagh and one former Fermanagh... (The goalie is Gallagher still isn't he?)
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 09, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
Stewart has never played championship for Antrim. I don't even think he's played in the league though I think he has played McKenna cup.
They also have one current Fermanagh and one former Fermanagh... (The goalie is Gallagher still isn't he?)
You may be able to make that two current Fermanagh players as Rory is in the McKenna Cup panel
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 09, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
Stewart has never played championship for Antrim. I don't even think he's played in the league though I think he has played McKenna cup.
They also have one current Fermanagh and one former Fermanagh... (The goalie is Gallagher still isn't he?)
think Karl played under Mickey Culbert a couple of times, no Championship games though. from 82 to the late 90's there could have been a stack of 'Antrim' players that only played one or two Championship games ;)
anyone know the venues for the games this weekend?
Dia Domhnaigh 15-11-09
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhánada v Lavey Joe Biggars Brewster Park 14:30 S McNamee Donegal Cavan
Monaghan Harps v Cookstown Father Rocks Athletic Grounds 12:45 M McErlane Monaghan Tyrone
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Semi Finals
Shane O'Neills v Emyvale Casement Park 12:45 JJ Cleary Armagh Monaghan
Moville Bun an Phobail v St Teresas Brewster Park 12:45 J Galligan Donegal Antrim
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Semi Finals:
Loup St Patricks v Kilcoo Owen Roes Casement Park 14:30 P Hughes Derry Down
Clontibret O'Neills v St Galls Athletic Grounds 14:30 J McQuillan Monaghan Antrim
Schkite, your very quiet leading up to this game. seems ya have no chance. reading todays' Irish news the manager was looking for rain and players aren't fit and blah blah blah.
all managers say the same things (well accept Dinny) but really we all know that all the players are fit and raring to go. should be a good game. should be 1-3 points in it to the winners. the Loup game should also be tight. the Derry teams have a great record in Ulster so i expect Loup by two
any of these games televised ???? Probably be the hurling this week saying we had Clontibret last week
Quote from: milltown row on November 12, 2009, 11:11:44 PM
Schkite, your very quiet leading up to this game. seems ya have no chance. reading todays' Irish news the manager was looking for rain and players aren't fit and blah blah blah.
all managers say the same things (well accept Dinny) but really we all know that all the players are fit and raring to go. should be a good game. should be 1-3 points in it to the winners. the Loup game should also be tight. the Derry teams have a great record in Ulster so i expect Loup by two
Ah sure you're right, we've no chance going by the bookies and who most people are tipping! ;) Read Declan saying that in the Irish news yesterday alright, in fairness the Dromore game being postponed because of the rain helped us out with the two lads recovering, so I can understand him looking for more bad weather! Playing again only 7 days later won't help with a couple of knocks we picked up, but you're absolutely right, the players are raring to go, that was seen last week with Conor and JP playing through the pain barrier. Hopefully they're ready for another battle on Sunday. I hear yous have a couple of players with knocks yourselves, hopefully all are ready for what should be a good tight game.
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 13, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
any of these games televised ???? Probably be the hurling this week saying we had Clontibret last week
2 hurling games on this week -
Portumna and Loughrea deferred -
Ballygunner and Cratloe live.
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 13, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
any of these games televised ???? Probably be the hurling this week saying we had Clontibret last week
sure its only fair that they have hurling and football every other week. equality is one thing TG4 are really good at!!!
unlike the the Irish News and the other rags
Quote from: milltown row on November 13, 2009, 02:45:21 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 13, 2009, 11:54:36 AM
any of these games televised ???? Probably be the hurling this week saying we had Clontibret last week
sure its only fair that they have hurling and football every other week. equality is one thing TG4 are really good at!!!
unlike the the Irish News and the other rags
This is a football thread ;D
see your manager was talking shite today again in the paper, said that the referee will give us easy frees!!! this coming from a team that 'earned' frees to win the game last week!!
unfair pressure on the referee right away. i'm a referee myself, if i read that today and was refereeing i'd certainly have a different view on things.....
Yeah I see he's been talking again, don't really see why he'd do that to be honest. Don't think we need to talk like that and I don't see the benefit of talking to the papers anyway, especially the likes of the Irish News who, lets face it, are hardly going to side with the view of a Monaghan team against an Antrim side.
Don't know what you mean however about us being a team that "earned" frees last week. Every scorable free we got was very clear-cut if you're suggesting they were soft.
He gave off like ya never won a free!! course you earned them but to think that we will try and con the referee is silly.
should be a good game, not looking forward to finding a parking space tomorrow. two games at the venue tomorrow will e mental for traffic.
stayed away from the betting for it. no goals seems the best bet at 5/2
Milltown are you not an ex-referee?
Quote from: milltown row on November 14, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
He gave off like ya never won a free!! course you earned them but to think that we will try and con the referee is silly.
should be a good game, not looking forward to finding a parking space tomorrow. two games at the venue tomorrow will e mental for traffic.
stayed away from the betting for it. no goals seems the best bet at 5/2
As I say, don't know what he was thinking talking to the papers, but I'll leave it at that.
Traffic bound to be brutal alright, not been at the Athletic Grounds for a while so not too sure what parking wil be like.
5/2 for no goals seems good enough value alright, I know we've been defending well recently, at preventing goals especially(hopefully that continues tomorrow), and yous seem to have a solid defence aswell, going by reports and the amount you concede. It'll probably be a low-scoring encounter again, as Ulster games usually are, and hopefully it'll be a good game too.
Quote from: Minder on November 14, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Milltown are you not an ex-referee?
i'm a brilliant referee ;) sure during all the games i'm the one telling the referee if he's doing alright
refereed a few games this year (mainly football :()
Half time from casement
Kilkoo 0 7
Loup 0 4
Martin mclean sent of for Kilkoo about 25 mins in
H/T @ Armagh
Galls 0-08
Clontibret 0-05
Extremely disappointed after that, it's been a long time since I've been as down after a game. The one point defeats to Cross were hard to take because of how close we were to winning, but this is completely different. I can't remember the last time we've been well beaten like that, it must be years.
First of all, hats off to St. Galls. A superb performance all over and we had no answer for their attacking which came from everywhere. Some of the play was excellent, in particular the pass for the second goal was sublime.
But it's hard to stomach when we played so poorly, nowhere near our potential and the final scoreline reflects badly on a team which is alot better than it suggests. We were making elementary mistakes all over, the kind these lads would never make, and passes were going astray etc, and whenever we made a mistake there were always a few Galls men there to take advantage. Their tackling and workrate was very impressive, we would usually do well in that department but not today. Things were looking alright early on, but when we missed 2 goal chances in a row when we were about 2 points up, you always had the feeling it would come back to haunt us. And McManus the man that missed them, usually he'd put them away in his sleep, but he tried very hard today and landed a few fantastic points. Who knows what could have been if even one of them went in. But once Galls got a foothold and scored a few points in a row, our heads went down. Very surprising, as this team would be mentally tough but there was no sign of that today. We were cleaned out at midfield and any time the was a breaking ball it was usually one of the Antrim men who collected it.
We were beaten by a much better team at the end of the day, but it's annoying to know we could have put up a much better fight. Good luck to Galls, it was a virtuoso performance and I think they'll win Ulster and have an excellent chance of landing the All Ireland.
Quote from: Schkite on November 15, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
Extremely disappointed after that, it's been a long time since I've been as down after a game. The one point defeats to Cross were hard to take because of how close we were to winning, but this is completely different. I can't remember the last time we've been well beaten like that, it must be years.
First of all, hats off to St. Galls. A superb performance all over and we had no answer for their attacking which came from everywhere. Some of the play was excellent, in particular the pass for the second goal was sublime.
But it's hard to stomach when we played so poorly, nowhere near our potential and the final scoreline reflects badly on a team which is alot better than it suggests. We were making elementary mistakes all over, the kind these lads would never make, and passes were going astray etc, and whenever we made a mistake there were always a few Galls men there to take advantage. Their tackling and workrate was very impressive, we would usually do well in that department but not today. Things were looking alright early on, but when we missed 2 goal chances in a row when we were about 2 points up, you always had the feeling it would come back to haunt us. And McManus the man that missed them, usually he'd put them away in his sleep, but he tried very hard today and landed a few fantastic points. Who knows what could have been if even one of them went in. But once Galls got a foothold and scored a few points in a row, our heads went down. Very surprising, as this team would be mentally tough but there was no sign of that today. We were cleaned out at midfield and any time the was a breaking ball it was usually one of the Antrim men who collected it.
We were beaten by a much better team at the end of the day, but it's annoying to know we could have put up a much better fight. Good luck to Galls, it was a virtuoso performance and I think they'll win Ulster and have an excellent chance of landing the All Ireland.
Who were best for st galls?
Well done to Loup on beating us today. They finished stronger with the extra man killing us. Paul Youngs goal was worthy off winning any game. I would like to applaud our lads on a wonderful display. However, Paudie Hughes was a disgrace. He firstly harshly sent off Marty McClean for very little, he gave Loup many handy free kicks and he denied us a very scorable free at the end to draw it. Ive said it before this w**ker should not be geting big games. An absolute scum bag. Well done Loup.
Quote from: stiffler on November 15, 2009, 05:01:42 PM
Quote from: Schkite on November 15, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
Extremely disappointed after that, it's been a long time since I've been as down after a game. The one point defeats to Cross were hard to take because of how close we were to winning, but this is completely different. I can't remember the last time we've been well beaten like that, it must be years.
First of all, hats off to St. Galls. A superb performance all over and we had no answer for their attacking which came from everywhere. Some of the play was excellent, in particular the pass for the second goal was sublime.
But it's hard to stomach when we played so poorly, nowhere near our potential and the final scoreline reflects badly on a team which is alot better than it suggests. We were making elementary mistakes all over, the kind these lads would never make, and passes were going astray etc, and whenever we made a mistake there were always a few Galls men there to take advantage. Their tackling and workrate was very impressive, we would usually do well in that department but not today. Things were looking alright early on, but when we missed 2 goal chances in a row when we were about 2 points up, you always had the feeling it would come back to haunt us. And McManus the man that missed them, usually he'd put them away in his sleep, but he tried very hard today and landed a few fantastic points. Who knows what could have been if even one of them went in. But once Galls got a foothold and scored a few points in a row, our heads went down. Very surprising, as this team would be mentally tough but there was no sign of that today. We were cleaned out at midfield and any time the was a breaking ball it was usually one of the Antrim men who collected it.
We were beaten by a much better team at the end of the day, but it's annoying to know we could have put up a much better fight. Good luck to Galls, it was a virtuoso performance and I think they'll win Ulster and have an excellent chance of landing the All Ireland.
Who were best for st galls?
Ah they were all good to be honest! A real team performance. The wing-backs did very well on the attack, set up a good few scores and at the same time keeping our half-forwards on the back foot at the same time. The midfield did well as I say and their players in the middle third mopped up alot of breaking ball, can't remember who in particular. Rory Gallagher and CJ hit some very nice scores. Couldn't really give you a name who was best, it was all a bit of a blur at times! :-[
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 15, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
Well done to Loup on beating us today. They finished stronger with the extra man killing us. Paul Youngs goal was worthy off winning any game. I would like to applaud our lads on a wonderful display. However, Paudie Hughes was a disgrace. He firstly harshly sent off Marty McClean for very little, he gave Loup many handy free kicks and he denied us a very scorable free at the end to draw it. Ive said it before this w**ker should not be geting big games. An absolute scum bag. Well done Loup.
I have to agree with that. The performance of Hughes today was shameful. As well as doing his best to prevent the game flowing he also gave many, many soft frees to the Loup. Kilcoo players and spectators have every right to feel annoyed and angry at his performance. However well done to the Loup, they didn't pick him and got on with it. Their No 15, Paul Young was very handy and was their outlet for nearly every ball. They also were very accurate with their shooting and only kicked a few wides at the death.
Well done to the loup. Unfortunately I think Galls may have too much for them to handle.
I reckon the referee put a swing of at least 6 points in that game through frees awarded/not-awarded.
His performance was that bad it wasn't inept, it was sinister... definitely leaves you wondering about impartiality.
Galls will hammer the Loup. On another day with another referee, we'd have put 20 points on them.
Hughes was a disgrace to say the least, all he had to do was award the free and xtra time would have done the rest, totally biased destroyed Kilcoo,s chances absolute disgrace.. Ulster Council want to take a rethink on Refs, made a hash at UUJ game midweek also, not up to the task full stop.
Paudi keeping up the good work I see :D
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 15, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
Well done to Loup on beating us today. They finished stronger with the extra man killing us. Paul Youngs goal was worthy off winning any game. I would like to applaud our lads on a wonderful display. However, Paudie Hughes was a disgrace. He firstly harshly sent off Marty McClean for very little, he gave Loup many handy free kicks and he denied us a very scorable free at the end to draw it. Ive said it before this w**ker should not be geting big games. An absolute scum bag. Well done Loup.
He might have had a bad day at the office but surely this is OTT ?. Do you think he deliberately went out to "do" you'se ??
finally St Galls let loose, might have been a different game had those chances had have went in. but seriously good football from just about everyone in Blue. expected more From Clonibret but their main men, bar McManus failed to show up. the support play was top drawer and so many men having opportunities to score. think Clontibret scored 2 from play. Referee must have read the Irish News ;)
we'd a few boys down with injuries early on, would be a sweat for them making the final. we've a great bench at the minute
so the Final will be against The Loup, a lot of our lads played in that final 6 years ago, young pups at the time so this will have a little edge to it. said earlier that Derry teams have great tradition in this competition. and The Loup grind out results. i expect it to be tough. hopefully the game will not be in Clones. too far away. Healy Park or Armagh please.
1/2 was a great price Schkite don't ya think?
I was at the game today - the ref was a disgrace for such a high profile game, I honestly couldnt believe it.
Kilkoo no 14 and 8 are County Standard players.I was dissapointed with C Laverty, or maybe he was well Marked. The ball to him could have been better, & I cant help but feel that Kilkoo beat themselves.
Quote from: orangeman on November 15, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 15, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
Well done to Loup on beating us today. They finished stronger with the extra man killing us. Paul Youngs goal was worthy off winning any game. I would like to applaud our lads on a wonderful display. However, Paudie Hughes was a disgrace. He firstly harshly sent off Marty McClean for very little, he gave Loup many handy free kicks and he denied us a very scorable free at the end to draw it. Ive said it before this w**ker should not be geting big games. An absolute scum bag. Well done Loup.
He might have had a bad day at the office but surely this is OTT ?. Do you think he deliberately went out to "do" you'se ??
Ahem! Don't you try and start that shite.
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 26, 2008, 04:27:50 PM
The ref is a disgrace to the GAA. First 50mins was as bias a performance against a team as i ever seen. He favoured westmeath in everything giving crazy decisions to glennon.
Then he goes and sends off healy for at most yellow card. The other incident wouldnt of happened.
Moral of the story that ref shouldnt be let ref a game ever again. And remember im a neutral.
One of the worst refereeing displays of all time !!!
Should never get another championship game - a reserve referee on a good day.
And what about that decision by the umpire to give a 45 just after half time ??? >:( >:( >:( >:(
unfortunetly lads if you were from clubs in Armagh you would see that this is the particular standard all over in fact Hughes would be rated as one of the better ones lol if you ever get a chance to have a game refereed by a certain mr Quigley then you will most definetly be frustrated to say the least. The standard of referees in Armagh are shocking i have been saying it for years. I hope this is mentioned in the game reports if nothing else it might spark some reformation:)
Quote from: tyrone86 on November 15, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
Quote from: orangeman on November 15, 2009, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 15, 2009, 05:09:19 PM
Well done to Loup on beating us today. They finished stronger with the extra man killing us. Paul Youngs goal was worthy off winning any game. I would like to applaud our lads on a wonderful display. However, Paudie Hughes was a disgrace. He firstly harshly sent off Marty McClean for very little, he gave Loup many handy free kicks and he denied us a very scorable free at the end to draw it. Ive said it before this w**ker should not be geting big games. An absolute scum bag. Well done Loup.
He might have had a bad day at the office but surely this is OTT ?. Do you think he deliberately went out to "do" you'se ??
Ahem! Don't you try and start that shite.
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 05:46:01 PM
Quote from: SLIGONIAN on July 26, 2008, 04:27:50 PM
The ref is a disgrace to the GAA. First 50mins was as bias a performance against a team as i ever seen. He favoured westmeath in everything giving crazy decisions to glennon.
Then he goes and sends off healy for at most yellow card. The other incident wouldnt of happened.
Moral of the story that ref shouldnt be let ref a game ever again. And remember im a neutral.
One of the worst refereeing displays of all time !!!
Should never get another championship game - a reserve referee on a good day.
And what about that decision by the umpire to give a 45 just after half time ??? >:( >:( >:( >:(
Memory / elephant.
Heat of the moment stuff that day. ;)
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 15, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
I reckon the referee put a swing of at least 6 points in that game through frees awarded/not-awarded.
His performance was that bad it wasn't inept, it was sinister... definitely leaves you wondering about impartiality.
Galls will hammer the Loup. On another day with another referee, we'd have put 20 points on them.
::) Rubbish. Accept your beating, the ref was poor but he wasn't why yous lost.
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 15, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
::) Rubbish. Accept your beating, the ref was poor but he wasn't why yous lost.
We should have stuffed them regardless of the referee's decisions. Missed too many good chances.
However, to suggest the result would not have been different with a decent referee is ludicrous.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 09, 2009, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: Schkite on November 09, 2009, 01:41:47 PM
Match betting on PP:
St Galls 8/15
Clontibret 15/8
Draw 13/2
Loup 8/13
Kilcoo 13/8
Draw 13/2
Decent double on the underdogs there.
Except it wasn't. I know my stuff.
Any betting for the final yet?
after todays results i'm going to say
Naomh Gall 4/9
The Loup 2/1
handicap betting Galls - 4 11/10
we wont beat the handicap
Quote from: milltown row on November 15, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
after todays results i'm going to say
Naomh Gall 4/9
The Loup 2/1
handicap betting Galls - 4 11/10
we wont beat the handicap
First part won't be far off, maybe a bit skinny for yourselves.
Doubt handicap will be more than 3, was 2 for Clontibret.
You'll cover it and then some.
I heard the milltown sledge of choice today was "Peter Robinson shagged your ma".
When is the final?
Dont know how kilcoo men can complain about he ref when he gave you some handy decisions. Firstly gave a handy free in defence when it wasnt and you ended up getting a point from it. Secondly hopping the ball when our forward was for taking a free kick and said he took too long to take it even though we were 2 points down and no need to waste time - its just the way he takes them. Thirdly giving an easy 20 yard free kick for a third man tackle when your man kicked out as ours first. Allowing an extra 30secs to a min to try and let you equalise. Granted your mans sending off was cruel but you have to careful when on a yellow. And after that he booked any loup player for coughing wrong so he could try and even things up. The booking after Paul Devlin was shot sorry fouled and dived like he had been watching Tyrone DVDs for the last week was a joke. Cant blame the ref for all your misses and the fact that you should have been 6 points up at half time. Once we scored the goal there was only one winner.
Thing about it is I would have wished any Kilcoo man all the best in the final so no point having sour grapes. Anything after the county final until your in the ulster final is a bonus. So celebrate your county victory and stop your complaining. Yes if we were beat i'd have complained about the ref but would have said ah well we would have loved being in this position at the start of the year.
Sorry if my English isn't the greatest tonight but i'm just home from the club celebrating with a few pints.
PS St Galls willl be very very tough.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 15, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 15, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
::) Rubbish. Accept your beating, the ref was poor but he wasn't why yous lost.
We should have stuffed them regardless of the referee's decisions. Missed too many good chances.
However, to suggest the result would not have been different with a decent referee is ludicrous.
I repeat, the ref wasn't the reason yous lost. He was bad for both teams, the sending off was harsh but after that he did his best to even it up.
Do as the rest of the posters on here have done and accept defeat gracefully, instead of saying "Oh we'd have won with a different referee".
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 15, 2009, 09:41:45 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 15, 2009, 09:36:45 PM
after todays results i'm going to say
Naomh Gall 4/9
The Loup 2/1
handicap betting Galls - 4 11/10
we wont beat the handicap
First part won't be far off, maybe a bit skinny for yourselves.
Doubt handicap will be more than 3, was 2 for Clontibret.
You'll cover it and then some.
I heard the milltown sledge of choice today was "Peter Robinson shagged your ma".
what!! ;D oh yes reference to the Village take over by the Red berets
Quote from: fiftyfiftyball on November 15, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Dont know how kilcoo men can complain about he ref when he gave you some handy decisions. Firstly gave a handy free in defence when it wasnt and you ended up getting a point from it. Secondly hopping the ball when our forward was for taking a free kick and said he took too long to take it even though we were 2 points down and no need to waste time - its just the way he takes them. Thirdly giving an easy 20 yard free kick for a third man tackle when your man kicked out as ours first. Allowing an extra 30secs to a min to try and let you equalise. Granted your mans sending off was cruel but you have to careful when on a yellow. And after that he booked any loup player for coughing wrong so he could try and even things up. The booking after Paul Devlin was shot sorry fouled and dived like he had been watching Tyrone DVDs for the last week was a joke. Cant blame the ref for all your misses and the fact that you should have been 6 points up at half time. Once we scored the goal there was only one winner.
Thing about it is I would have wished any Kilcoo man all the best in the final so no point having sour grapes. Anything after the county final until your in the ulster final is a bonus. So celebrate your county victory and stop your complaining. Yes if we were beat i'd have complained about the ref but would have said ah well we would have loved being in this position at the start of the year.
Sorry if my English isn't the greatest tonight but i'm just home from the club celebrating with a few pints.
PS St Galls willl be very very tough.
Sorry but i guess its just the manner of what happened that has annoyed a lot of us. There is geniunely no malice towards the Loup and we do wish them all the best in the final. They've a good game plan and a few superb players. St. Galls will be a step up in class from ourselves but hopefully yous can take the game to them and win the title.
Where I say yous were strong against us was your accuracy when shooting and the delivery of the ball into Young and the layoffs he provided. You did struggle though when we ran at you after a defender was either stucked in or caught on an overlap. Hopefully that can be patched up for the final though! Also you'd need to watch the bookings, some were debatable but many for pulling and dragging and off the ball tackles weren't. The two cases where Loup players were booked for tripping Kilcoo players making a run are case in point. Both of these were picked up by the umpires.
In terms of the referee. Yes the examples above are correct, however with the exception of the extra time (also worth bearing there was a subsitution and injury during it) all the examples occured earlier in the first half. After 15 minutes we seemed to get nothing... The Loup goal as well taken as it was should have been a free out to Kilcoo 30 seconds before and as well as that the ball in came from a Loup "free" where the linesman had already signaled a line ball to Kilcoo.
Perhaps is a case that the step up from the static game in Armagh was too great for him. Where skills such as the solo run and disiplined tackle disappeared during the late 90s. Maybe as a result of Francie's exploits over the last decade physical contact has resulted in that big a casuality list that its been outlawed. Whether the man was biased (in my view) or just plain useless doesn't matter now. The fact that the so many are discussing him is never good. Lets just hope lessons are learned and thats the last time he's allowed to venture beyond the whin strewn borders of armagh.
Come on the Loup! Get stuck into them frankies and win it for the clutchies!
I was in Casement yesterday and, as a neutral, I enjoyed two good competitive games of football. Having read previous posts concerning the ref's performance in the senior game, I would have to say that if I were a Kilcoo supporter I would be asking some questions.
However, yesterday I witnessed one of the worst scenes of thuggery I have ever seen at a GAA match. After the game as the ref was leaving the pitch a Kilcoo supporter in the stand stood up and threw a bottle at the ref.
Now, before you ask how I knew the thug - I deliberately use the word - game from Kilcoo, well, I was sitting beside this group throughout the game and the fact that they were holding black and white flags and wearing Kilcoo tops just might give it away.
Is this how far down the mire we have gone? Who does this thug think he is? What gives him the right to throw anything at any GAA official?
Does anybody believe that such an act is acceptable?
The point is that no matter how bad an official performs we must have standards of respect and decency. Without them we have nothing.
St. Galls were fantastic yesterday, particularly in the second half as Clontibret's belief vanished altogether. Not a chance the two teams are as far apart as suggested though, and it might have been a different game had McManus (lovely player btw) tucked away either of the goal chances. Think it was Gribbies made a last ditch shoulder for the one that resulted in a free out, which was obviously the correct decision!
Think Clontibret got a bit desperate even before the second goal went in. JP Mone touched the ball twice I think after he came on and was clearly nowhere close to fit.
CJ and Gallagher took some lovely scores, and CJ's ball in for the first goal was fantastic. Enormous work rate meant Clontibret never had any time on the ball and particularly within our own 45, an attacker was often swallowed up by three defenders. Some of Kevin and Aidso's catches were magnificent, although Kevin couldn't go the game without letting his mouth run at least once and was deservedly booked for it. Favourite moment of the match was in the last five mins or so. Aidso was coming out with the ball and hand-passed it over the no. 15, who tried to body-check him and got absolutely flattened for his efforts!
Repeat of 2003, when like many of our Ulster final defeats, the team had the ability to win, but didn't deserve to on the day. I too hope that the Ulster Council sees sense and doesn't put it on in Clones. The Bellaghy final was in Omagh, although I'd prefer the Athletic Grounds again. I left where I live in Meath at 12.35 yesterday, caught the last ten mins of the Harps-Cookstown match, and was back home for 5.15.
Also, congratulations to St. Teresa's.
If I was a Kilcoo man I'd definitly feel hard done by yesterday, thought the big midfielder getting sent off was very harsh but as somebody posted earlier when your on a yellow you have to be very careful, as for you RadioGaaGaa you are an idiot to suggest that you would you's would have stuffed the Loup with a different ref, this was always going to be a tight game and if the 2 teams played 10 times there would never be more than a couple of points in it.
I think you's would have got more decisions from the ref if a couple of your players hadn't fell over looking a free every time there was a gust of wind.
Don't think we have much of a chance against St Galls in the final but sure its great to be there!
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 16, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Don't think we have much of a chance against St Galls in the final but sure its great to be there!
It's too early for mind games- wait a few days!
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship
Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhánada 1-08 Lavey Joe Biggars 1-14
Monaghan Harps 1-09 Cookstown Father Rocks 1-11
Final:
Lavey Joe Biggars v Cookstown Father Rocks Cavan Tyrone
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Semi Finals
Shane O'Neills 0-09 Emyvale 0-12
Moville Bun an Phobail 2-07 St Teresas 2-09
Final:
Emyvale v St Teresas Monaghan Antrim
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Semi Finals:
Loup St Patricks 1-12 Kilcoo Owen Roes 1-11
Loup 1-12 (B McVey 0-1, B Doyle 0-1, J McBride 0-1, P McVey 0-5(all frees), P McFlynn 0-1(a free),Declan McVey 0-1, P Young 1-2)
Kilcoo 1-11 (D McEvoy 0-2, P Devlin 0-2(1 free),C Laverty 0-1, D Kane 1-4(2 frees), B Kane 0-2)
Clontibret O'Neills 0-11 St Galls 2-15
Clontibret 0-11 (A Rooney 0-1, C McManus 0-9(2 frees), F Mone 0-1)
St Galls 2-15 (S Kelly 0-1, Kieran McGourty 0-3, Kevin McGourty 0-1, T O'Neill 0-1, Rory Gallagher 2-3(1 free), CJ McGourty 0-3(2 frees), Kevin Niblock 0-2, K Stewart 0-1)
Final:
Loup St Patricks v St Galls Derry Antrim
Quote from: gallsman on November 16, 2009, 09:22:47 AM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 16, 2009, 09:10:29 AM
Don't think we have much of a chance against St Galls in the final but sure its great to be there!
It's too early for mind games- wait a few days!
Gallsman, it's never too early for mind games, I normally start each year around about May!!!
An interesting stat is that in 31 years only 17 teams have won the title with over half of the shared between Armagh and Derry. Obviously my own clubs figure skew this a small bit but I reckon there would have been at least 1 winner out of the teams we beat in Armagh.
I will be cheering on St Gall's, if The Loup win that puts Derry football ahead of Armagh football and we can't have that now. Also I reckon the St Gall's have a very strong chance of winning the AI this year. There are no stand out candidates who you would be scared off and I would love to see Antrim get the success that it deserves and maybbe give them the belief that they can really do something at county level.
once again that clown paudie hughes has to get himself in the limelight. he may not have beaten kilcoo but once again he is the talkin point. Can anyone tell me the last time he refereed a match, intercounty or club that something controversial didn't happen with him. a complete clown and the ulster council should start to notice this and stop appointing him
crossbar would go along with that. Havin spoke to the cross boys prior to our championship match in armagh with them, they stated that who ever won the game it would be between us and st galls to win ulster. That u may call cocky but they know the strength of opposition and i can tell you that we had of had the rub of the green ( clarkie) we would be in the final now. but good luck to galls.
Quote from: thewanderer on November 16, 2009, 10:02:55 AM
crossbar would go along with that. Havin spoke to the cross boys prior to our championship match in armagh with them, they stated that who ever won the game it would be between us and st galls to win ulster. That u may call cocky but they know the strength of opposition and i can tell you that we had of had the rub of the green ( clarkie) we would be in the final now. but good luck to galls.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D If your granny had balls she'd be your granda :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
The Loup will beat St. Gall's in the final. Get your money on now before the odds shorten. I'm never wrong!
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 16, 2009, 11:49:45 AM
The Loup will beat St. Gall's in the final. Get your money on now before the odds shorten. I'm never wrong!
You were wrong about the Loup V Bellaghy semi final lad. ;)
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 16, 2009, 11:59:06 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 16, 2009, 11:49:45 AM
The Loup will beat St. Gall's in the final. Get your money on now before the odds shorten. I'm never wrong!
You were wrong about the Loup V Bellaghy semi final lad. ;)
He is wrong about quite a lot so pay him no heed :P
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 16, 2009, 11:59:06 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 16, 2009, 11:49:45 AM
The Loup will beat St. Gall's in the final. Get your money on now before the odds shorten. I'm never wrong!
You were wrong about the Loup V Bellaghy semi final lad. ;)
Maybe, but I couldn't go against my own club. We beat you in the row after it but! ;D.
I'll even give the score. 0-9 to 0-7. Johnny McBride will have McGourty sent off in the first half and another St. gall's player will also get the line.
Having only seen St Gall's once (AIF they lost to Salthill despite imo being by far the better team) I think that they will win any club game if the pitch is dry. Saw them in person in a huddle on the CP pitch and me and my mate both commented how physically slight they were. Maybe they have bulked up since then.
Personally always like to see the city teams do well in this competition.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 16, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 16, 2009, 11:59:06 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on November 16, 2009, 11:49:45 AM
The Loup will beat St. Gall's in the final. Get your money on now before the odds shorten. I'm never wrong!
You were wrong about the Loup V Bellaghy semi final lad. ;)
Maybe, but I couldn't go against my own club. We beat you in the row after it but! ;D.
I'll even give the score. 0-9 to 0-7. Johnny McBride will have McGourty sent off in the first half and another St. gall's player will also get the line.
You know thats not true tones. :D
Who said Jeroma could go on a holiday. Where are his updates? http://www.vimeo.com/user1785268/videos
Anyone any access to any footage from either of the semis?
Showed the goals on BBC news there. UTV just mentioned that the 2 teams would meet in the final. TG4 have a highlights programme on tonight @ 00.17, might be something on there.
Also, what was up with Gallaghers celebration for his goals yesterday?
How Rory Gallagher never got busted is beyond me, he just roared in various Clontibret players faces for about the last 20 mins, total knob. Good discipline from Clontibret I suppose.
Clontibret's disallowed goal was dubious. I can only assume the ref gave a free out for a touch on the ground, but it clearly came off the 14's knee/leg. Could have made a big difference.
Quote from: bennydorano on November 16, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
How Rory Gallagher never got busted is beyond me, he just roared in various Clontibret players faces for about the last 20 mins, total knob. Good discipline from Clontibret I suppose.
Clontibret's disallowed goal was dubious. I can only assume the ref gave a free out for a touch on the ground, but it clearly came off the 14's knee/leg. Could have made a big difference.
I wonder what club he will play for next year.
I personally thought he did touch the ball on the deck but would not have surprised nor upset if the goal had stood. Should never have been in that position.
Think kevin mcgourty showed a lot of self discipline in not to react to his constant harassment by clontibrets no. 5 whereas the old kevin would have reacted.
Also think the turning point was in moving terry oneill to the half back line and anto healy to the full back line. Both would be naturally attacking players and immediately put their markers on the back foot and terry also won a lot of dirty breaking ball.
Quote from: Minder on November 16, 2009, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 16, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
How Rory Gallagher never got busted is beyond me, he just roared in various Clontibret players faces for about the last 20 mins, total knob. Good discipline from Clontibret I suppose.
Clontibret's disallowed goal was dubious. I can only assume the ref gave a free out for a touch on the ground, but it clearly came off the 14's knee/leg. Could have made a big difference.
I wonder what club he will play for next year.
Well, if we beat the Loup he'll most defo be playing for Naomh Gall next year (feb anyway)
Quote from: bennydorano on November 16, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
How Rory Gallagher never got busted is beyond me, he just roared in various Clontibret players faces for about the last 20 mins, total knob. Good discipline from Clontibret I suppose.
Clontibret's disallowed goal was dubious. I can only assume the ref gave a free out for a touch on the ground, but it clearly came off the 14's knee/leg. Could have made a big difference.
on the goal I was a bit unsure of what happened, first i thought he bounced the ball twice, then someone said he touched it along the ground. as it happened I thought it was a goal. could have been a different game though on Clontibret's performance i doubt the result would have been different.
how he missed the other one :o he'll have nightmares over that
I too think it was disallowed due to a double hop, however I think this was very harsh as the 2nd hop was an attempt to control the ball after McManus lost his footing with his attempted dummy of the keeper.
The Cargin boys said Rory Gallagher was a complete p***k against them as well. Hope the Loup boys don't take any of his sh1t!
Something was done on him that day though for him to lose the rag... Didn't exactly see what but there was definitely something happened to him off the ball and he spent the first half runnin round like a mad man after whoever did it...
Would doubt he's like that every game.
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 16, 2009, 08:31:17 PM
I too think it was disallowed due to a double hop, however I think this was very harsh as the 2nd hop was an attempt to control the ball after McManus lost his footing with his attempted dummy of the keeper.
If that's true, why would it matter? Just because you lose your footing doesn't give you the right to touch the ball with the hand again does it? The question people should be asking is why he didn't have the confidence to go for goal without having to round Gallagher, especially considering how well he'd been showing earlier in the match.
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 16, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
The Cargin boys said Rory Gallagher was a complete p***k against them as well. Hope the Loup boys don't take any of his sh1t!
Sambo you'd have lost the plot also had you've been subjected to the abuse he got during the match against Cargin.
again there is always people out there who will give off about 'outside players'. of course had these players turned up at their club, they would reject them at the gate!!!!
fullback line - all Galls men.
half back line - all Galls men -
midfield - all Galls men -
half forward line all Galls men,
full forward all but one - Galls men.
Ronan has played for the club for the last load of years and his bro turned up this year. Big deal, seems scoring those goals yesterday has brought out the shite talk
Quote from: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 16, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
The Cargin boys said Rory Gallagher was a complete p***k against them as well. Hope the Loup boys don't take any of his sh1t!
Sambo you'd have lost the plot also had you've been subjected to the abuse he got during the match against Cargin.
again there is always people out there who will give off about 'outside players'. of course had these players turned up at their club, they would reject them at the gate!!!!
fullback line - all Galls men. half back line - all Galls men - midfield - all Galls men - half forward line all Galls men, full forward all but one - Galls men.
Ronan has played for the club for the last load of years and his bro turned up this year. Big deal, seems scoring those goals yesterday has brought out the shite talk
What shite talk? ??? I never mentioned where he was from or anything about it, you just brought it up!
As for abuse, I don't know how bad it was but its hardly the first time a player has got abused in a match. Someone of his experience should know to let it go past him. Reacting by celebrating in front of players will always come back to haunt.
Quote from: bennydorano on November 16, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
How Rory Gallagher never got busted is beyond me, he just roared in various Clontibret players faces for about the last 20 mins, total knob. Good discipline from Clontibret I suppose.
Clontibret's disallowed goal was dubious. I can only assume the ref gave a free out for a touch on the ground, but it clearly came off the 14's knee/leg. Could have made a big difference.
Paddy Heaney in today's IN said that it looked a certain goal but Mc Quillan ruled it out for over carrying - if this is true, then why was he consulting with his umpires ?
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Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 16, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
The Cargin boys said Rory Gallagher was a complete p***k against them as well. Hope the Loup boys don't take any of his sh1t!
Sambo you'd have lost the plot also had you've been subjected to the abuse he got during the match against Cargin.
again there is always people out there who will give off about 'outside players'. of course had these players turned up at their club, they would reject them at the gate!!!!
fullback line - all Galls men. half back line - all Galls men - midfield - all Galls men - half forward line all Galls men, full forward all but one - Galls men.
Ronan has played for the club for the last load of years and his bro turned up this year. Big deal, seems scoring those goals yesterday has brought out the shite talk
Have always though he was a bollocks from reading his newspaper articles, the amount of clubs he has played for doesn't come into either, although he does seem to be a bit of a glory hunter
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Quote from: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 10:29:03 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 16, 2009, 09:55:20 PM
The Cargin boys said Rory Gallagher was a complete p***k against them as well. Hope the Loup boys don't take any of his sh1t!
Sambo you'd have lost the plot also had you've been subjected to the abuse he got during the match against Cargin.
again there is always people out there who will give off about 'outside players'. of course had these players turned up at their club, they would reject them at the gate!!!!
fullback line - all Galls men. half back line - all Galls men - midfield - all Galls men - half forward line all Galls men, full forward all but one - Galls men.
Ronan has played for the club for the last load of years and his bro turned up this year. Big deal, seems scoring those goals yesterday has brought out the shite talk
What shite talk? ??? I never mentioned where he was from or anything about it, you just brought it up!
As for abuse, I don't know how bad it was but its hardly the first time a player has got abused in a match. Someone of his experience should know to let it go past him. Reacting by celebrating in front of players will always come back to haunt.
answered you in the first line, the rest of my post was for the posters who have a problem when two players have not grown up in Milltown Village.
Bit of paranoia ther milltown. No one except minder seemed to say much. More of a reflection on the player than the club too...
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2009, 11:43:22 PM
Bit of paranoia ther milltown. No one except minder seemed to say much. More of a reflection on the player than the club too...
everyone is against us imtommygunn, they are always out to get us, its not on. talking about us it just seems that everyone wants us to lose, the referees hate us the county board are out to sabotage us and even swine flu us after us ............(in a scottish accent :P)
Quote from: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 16, 2009, 11:43:22 PM
Bit of paranoia ther milltown. No one except minder seemed to say much. More of a reflection on the player than the club too...
everyone is against us imtommygunn, they are always out to get us, its not on. talking about us it just seems that everyone wants us to lose, the referees hate us the county board are out to sabotage us and even swine flu us after us ............(in a scottish accent :P)
You know what they say - just 'cos you're paranoid does'nt mean they're not out to get you.
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Good man milltown, build up the "everyone hates us but we don't care", it never did us any harm ;)
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
What are you talking about you clown.
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 17, 2009, 09:08:56 AM
Good man milltown, build up the "everyone hates us but we don't care", it never did us any harm ;)
You weren't lying about the mind games, were you? :D
We're disliked as a club in Antrim, and Belfast in particular because we win things. A lot. When I was playing, all the rows that broke out were in matches against the Johnnies or Gort na Mona, those were where the real arseholes lay, although I'll happily sit down and have a laugh with many of y former nemeses. My brother's team won every championship, football and hurling from U10 up as far as I know, setting the foundations for the senior team these days. That team was followed by my own team from which players like CJ, Mark Kelly and Burky have come. We've had a blessed generation of extremely talented and dedicated footballers, don't hold it against us folks! ;)
Fair play to St Galls, when these boys are training and playing football it means they are not out stealing cars and the like.
Quote from: milltown row on November 16, 2009, 11:31:21 PM
I answered you in the first line, the rest of my post was for the posters who have a problem when two players have not grown up in Milltown Village.
I've never heard of Milltown Village. Sounds interesting. Tell us all more.
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Quote from: fiftyfiftyball on November 15, 2009, 09:48:31 PM
Dont know how kilcoo men can complain about he ref when he gave you some handy decisions. Firstly gave a handy free in defence when it wasnt and you ended up getting a point from it. Secondly hopping the ball when our forward was for taking a free kick and said he took too long to take it even though we were 2 points down and no need to waste time - its just the way he takes them. Thirdly giving an easy 20 yard free kick for a third man tackle when your man kicked out as ours first. Allowing an extra 30secs to a min to try and let you equalise. Granted your mans sending off was cruel but you have to careful when on a yellow. And after that he booked any loup player for coughing wrong so he could try and even things up. The booking after Paul Devlin was shot sorry fouled and dived like he had been watching Tyrone DVDs for the last week was a joke. Cant blame the ref for all your misses and the fact that you should have been 6 points up at half time. Once we scored the goal there was only one winner.
Thing about it is I would have wished any Kilcoo man all the best in the final so no point having sour grapes. Anything after the county final until your in the ulster final is a bonus. So celebrate your county victory and stop your complaining. Yes if we were beat i'd have complained about the ref but would have said ah well we would have loved being in this position at the start of the year.
Sorry if my English isn't the greatest tonight but i'm just home from the club celebrating with a few pints.
PS St Galls willl be very very tough.
Sorry but i guess its just the manner of what happened that has annoyed a lot of us. There is geniunely no malice towards the Loup and we do wish them all the best in the final. They've a good game plan and a few superb players. St. Galls will be a step up in class from ourselves but hopefully yous can take the game to them and win the title.
Where I say yous were strong against us was your accuracy when shooting and the delivery of the ball into Young and the layoffs he provided. You did struggle though when we ran at you after a defender was either stucked in or caught on an overlap. Hopefully that can be patched up for the final though! Also you'd need to watch the bookings, some were debatable but many for pulling and dragging and off the ball tackles weren't. The two cases where Loup players were booked for tripping Kilcoo players making a run are case in point. Both of these were picked up by the umpires.
In terms of the referee. Yes the examples above are correct, however with the exception of the extra time (also worth bearing there was a subsitution and injury during it) all the examples occured earlier in the first half. After 15 minutes we seemed to get nothing... The Loup goal as well taken as it was should have been a free out to Kilcoo 30 seconds before and as well as that the ball in came from a Loup "free" where the linesman had already signaled a line ball to Kilcoo.
Perhaps is a case that the step up from the static game in Armagh was too great for him. Where skills such as the solo run and disiplined tackle disappeared during the late 90s. Maybe as a result of Francie's exploits over the last decade physical contact has resulted in that big a casuality list that its been outlawed. Whether the man was biased (in my view) or just plain useless doesn't matter now. The fact that the so many are discussing him is never good. Lets just hope lessons are learned and thats the last time he's allowed to venture beyond the whin strewn borders of armagh.Come on the Loup! Get stuck into them frankies and win it for the clutchies!
I think it is quite obvious to all what even Armagh men think of the afore mentioned ref, he is not up to the standard but it does not warrant this bullsh-t Magpies. His refereeing is not a reflection on football in his club never mind county. We will not churn out the records from the late 90's regarding club and couty titles won by the folk from the orchard compared to the mourne men it would only depress you more.
As a Kilcoo man you should be proud of what the boys have achieved and having seen them in most championship games they are a credit to the club and county (at least 3 or 4 should get a run out next year in the red and black) Ten minutes into the second half against Mayobridge you could only dream of waht has happened since. I won't argue the ref done you no favours and quite possibly an Ulster Final spot was denied by his actions but it is simply down to him being a below standard ref no matter where he comes from.
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Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
Whats balls?
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
and armagh is easy ? with the best team in ireland over the last 13 years in it, . dry ur eyes if cross had been in any other county they still would have created the records. and some of the other teams in armagh would have won titles in the other counties, namely dromintee and pearse ogs.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 10:32:14 AM
Fair play to St Galls, when these boys are training and playing football it means they are not out stealing cars and the like.
Small, petty man.
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Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
and armagh is easy ? with the best team in ireland over the last 13 years in it, . dry ur eyes if cross had been in any other county they still would have created the records. and some of the other teams in armagh would have won titles in the other counties, namely dromintee and pearse ogs.
Wise up you fool.
No doubt Cross where/are a great team and would have won alot of titles in any County but there is no way in hell they would have won half of what they had won if they had to play in the Derry Championship as last 15 years.
For f**k sake they could set their training so that they would peak for the ulster club because they where up against f**k all in Armagh.
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 10:20:07 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
and armagh is easy ? with the best team in ireland over the last 13 years in it, . dry ur eyes if cross had been in any other county they still would have created the records. and some of the other teams in armagh would have won titles in the other counties, namely dromintee and pearse ogs.
your taws wanderer, It is clear to be seen that there is a better standard of football overall in both Tyrone and Derry than in Armagh. Having played club football over the years ie Armagh senior championship and division one football i can say this without hesitation. Now don't get me wrong the top 4 or 5 teams in Armagh would have competed but they certainly wouldn't have been successful in either of the two counties . Cross are obviously an exception, they would have been challenging for every honour in either county but they wouldn't have won 13 county titles in a row and a couple less ulster and All Irelands. But it is all hypothetical talk because they don't play in Derry or Tyrone they play in Armagh and they can only beat what is put in front of them. But i think you have to acknowledge a better overall standar of football exists in Derry and Tyrone.
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Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
and armagh is easy ? with the best team in ireland over the last 13 years in it, . dry ur eyes if cross had been in any other county they still would have created the records. and some of the other teams in armagh would have won titles in the other counties, namely dromintee and pearse ogs.
Wise up you fool.
No doubt Cross where/are a great team and would have won alot of titles in any County but there is no way in hell they would have won half of what they had won if they had to play in the Derry Championship as last 15 years.
For f**k sake they could set their training so that they would peak for the ulster club because they where up against f**k all in Armagh.
This is whats balls. Derry people go on about how tough their Championship is. Yet can they really back it up? How many of your teams have gone on to win Ulster in the last 10 years? Genuine question by the way. I know Ballinderry and Loup did.
Derry people talking about Derry football reminds me of English people talking about English soccer. They claim to have the best league/championship around, they claim their players are all elite yet when it comes to the big tournaments they flatter to deceive.
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Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 09:04:49 AM
milltown a bit of the old former falls road siege mentality comin out there. Cross was still right they could name the winners at an early stage. Loup have had the easy end of the draw in derry and ulster wonder how they will do now with better opposition
Unlike Armagh there are no easy championships in Derry
I'm no Armagh man, but thats balls.
and armagh is easy ? with the best team in ireland over the last 13 years in it, . dry ur eyes if cross had been in any other county they still would have created the records. and some of the other teams in armagh would have won titles in the other counties, namely dromintee and pearse ogs.
your taws wanderer, It is clear to be seen that there is a better standard of football overall in both Tyrone and Derry than in Armagh. Having played club football over the years ie Armagh senior championship and division one football i can say this without hesitation. Now don't get me wrong the top 4 or 5 teams in Armagh would have competed but they certainly wouldn't have been successful in either of the two counties . Cross are obviously an exception, they would have been challenging for every honour in either county but they wouldn't have won 13 county titles in a row and a couple less ulster and All Irelands. But it is all hypothetical talk because they don't play in Derry or Tyrone they play in Armagh and they can only beat what is put in front of them. But i think you have to acknowledge a better overall standar of football exists in Derry and Tyrone.
:D :D
Just to state, I'm not saying Cross would have won so many titles in a row in Derry, but to say they were up against f**k all and could use Armagh as nothing more than a training session is disrepectful, and ultimately, a load of shite.
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
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This is whats balls. Derry people go on about how tough their Championship is. Yet can they really back it up? How many of your teams have gone on to win Ulster in the last 10 years? Genuine question by the way. I know Ballinderry and Loup did.
Derry people talking about Derry football reminds me of English people talking about English soccer. They claim to have the best league/championship around, they claim their players are all elite yet when it comes to the big tournaments they flatter to deceive.
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Year Winner County Opponent County
2008 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Armagh Ballinderry 1-04 Derry
2007 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh St Gall's Antrim
2006 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Ballinderry Derry
2005 St Galls Antrim Bellaghy Derry
2004 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Mayobridge Down
2003 An Lúb Derry St Galls Antrim
2002 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
2001 Ballinderry Derry Mayobridge Down
2000 Bellaghy Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1999 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
1998 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1997 Dungiven Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1996 Crossmaglen Rangers* Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1995 Mullabawn Armagh Bailieboro Cavan
1994 Bellaghy Derry Clontibret O'Neills Monaghan
1993 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Downpatrick Down
1992 Lavey* Derry Burren Down
1991 Castleblayney Faughs Monaghan Killybegs Donegal
1990 Lavey Derry Kingscourt Cavan
In the past 20 years Derry have had a team in all but 7 of the finals, thats why Derry people reckon that we have a very competitive club championship here.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
Forgot about Bellaghy, thought there was another one.
I was meaning in general, a lot of Derry people constantly go on about how good their championship is. Competitive yes, and probably the most amount of teams who have a genuine chance of winning it. Not the greatest of matches though, and I don't think the quality of teams winning it is as high as, say 10 years ago.
I have no doubt Cross had off days, but the likes of Pearse Ogs, Dromintee and and one are 2 others have tested them to the max over the last few years. As I said, to describe the Armagh championship as nothing more than a training session is disrepectful to the likes of these teams.
I never mentioned Antrim football, but I don't think its fair to say its at a far lower level than Armagh. Depends what you are talking about. Our club champions beat their club champions. Our county team got to an Ulster final and should have beaten the eventual All-Ireland champions, if they'd had a bit more confidence. If you are meaning strength of the Division 1 league, then I'd say we are a bit behind.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
This would be fair to say if you were talking purely in terms of footballing ability, but I don't think many outside Armagh realise the psychological stranglehold Cross had on everyone. Of course they had off days when they should've been beaten, but other clubs shat themselves on one or two occasions and threw away the chance to topple them. Clubs outside the county didn't quite have the same mental block. Ogs win this year was massive, the fear factor is severely diminished.
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Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
This would be fair to say if you were talking purely in terms of footballing ability, but I don't think many outside Armagh realise the psychological stranglehold Cross had on everyone. Of course they had off days when they should've been beaten, but other clubs shat themselves on one or two occasions and threw away the chance to topple them. Clubs outside the county didn't quite have the same mental block. Ogs win this year was massive, the fear factor is severely diminished.
Nail on head.........and just because a championship is competitive doesn't mean it's good, Derry people would sicken your hole about their club football. I also reckon the standard is dropping in Derry with an exceptional Ballinderry team appearing to be past their peak, Bellaghy and Lavey going through a dip, a Derry man said to me recently that it was a worrying sign when Loup won the title. ;)
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
Forgot about Bellaghy, thought there was another one.
I was meaning in general, a lot of Derry people constantly go on about how good their championship is. Competitive yes, and probably the most amount of teams who have a genuine chance of winning it. Not the greatest of matches though, and I don't think the quality of teams winning it is as high as, say 10 years ago.I have no doubt Cross had off days, but the likes of Pearse Ogs, Dromintee and and one are 2 others have tested them to the max over the last few years. As I said, to describe the Armagh championship as nothing more than a training session is disrepectful to the likes of these teams.
I never mentioned Antrim football, but I don't think its fair to say its at a far lower level than Armagh. Depends what you are talking about. Our club champions beat their club champions. Our county team got to an Ulster final and should have beaten the eventual All-Ireland champions, if they'd had a bit more confidence. If you are meaning strength of the Division 1 league, then I'd say we are a bit behind.
I agree with you here, alot off he games in the Derry Championship are awful to watch even between the so called stronger teams, the reason I think Derry teams do well in Ulster is because when they win the Derry Championship they are full of confidence and rightly or wrongly they feel they have won the hardest ( not nessacerly best ) club championship in ulster and they fear no one in the competition.
PS. Was only giving you a dig about Antrim football Samba, I don't really know how strong it is after St Galls & Cargin.
PPS. I didn't say Cross used the Armagh Championship as training , I said they planned their training to peak for the Ulster Club such was their confidence in winning Armagh and I was told that by a cross man but I suppose he could have been telling porkies.
Quote from: mackers on November 17, 2009, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 17, 2009, 02:07:20 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
This would be fair to say if you were talking purely in terms of footballing ability, but I don't think many outside Armagh realise the psychological stranglehold Cross had on everyone. Of course they had off days when they should've been beaten, but other clubs shat themselves on one or two occasions and threw away the chance to topple them. Clubs outside the county didn't quite have the same mental block. Ogs win this year was massive, the fear factor is severely diminished.
Nail on head.........and just because a championship is competitive doesn't mean it's good, Derry people would sicken your hole about their club football. I also reckon the standard is dropping in Derry with an exceptional Ballinderry team appearing to be past their peak, Bellaghy and Lavey going through a dip, a Derry man said to me recently that it was a worrying sign when Loup won the title. ;)
Must be more worrying for him that they are in the Ulster final then. ;D
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 02:26:34 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on November 17, 2009, 02:06:47 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Bellaghy won it in 2000 as well don't forget Samba.
Who is talking about Derry football being elite?
All I am saying is it is very competitive and I don't think any team no matter how good they are would win 13 titles in a row, like be realistic about the thing in the 13 years that Cross won the Armagh title they are bound to have had bad days but none of the teams that they where playing against where good enough to take advantage of this, to be this suggests the rest of the teams hadn't much quality as when Cross had a off day in one of their many Ulster campaigns they where normally beat.
PS. By the way Samba outside of St Galls & Cargin Antrim football is at a far lower level than Armagh.
Forgot about Bellaghy, thought there was another one.
I was meaning in general, a lot of Derry people constantly go on about how good their championship is. Competitive yes, and probably the most amount of teams who have a genuine chance of winning it. Not the greatest of matches though, and I don't think the quality of teams winning it is as high as, say 10 years ago.I have no doubt Cross had off days, but the likes of Pearse Ogs, Dromintee and and one are 2 others have tested them to the max over the last few years. As I said, to describe the Armagh championship as nothing more than a training session is disrepectful to the likes of these teams.
I never mentioned Antrim football, but I don't think its fair to say its at a far lower level than Armagh. Depends what you are talking about. Our club champions beat their club champions. Our county team got to an Ulster final and should have beaten the eventual All-Ireland champions, if they'd had a bit more confidence. If you are meaning strength of the Division 1 league, then I'd say we are a bit behind.
I agree with you here, alot off he games in the Derry Championship are awful to watch even between the so called stronger teams, the reason I think Derry teams do well in Ulster is because when they win the Derry Championship they are full of confidence and rightly or wrongly they feel they have won the hardest ( not nessacerly best ) club championship in ulster and they fear no one in the competition.
PS. Was only giving you a dig about Antrim football Samba, I don't really know how strong it is after St Galls & Cargin.
PPS. I didn't say Cross used the Armagh Championship as training , I said they planned their training to peak for the Ulster Club such was their confidence in winning Armagh and I was told that by a cross man but I suppose he could have been telling porkies.
Fair point about the confidence matter. With all due respect, I think thats one of the main reasons Loup have got to the final, they have got on a bit of a roll and its carried them. Fair play to them.
Na you'd be right about Antrim, after those 2 teams there isn't a whole lot more. Perhaps in the next few years a new force will come through. Creggan fancy themselves and are going very wel at underage level. Not great at senior currently though.
Ah right. Again, probably fairly accurate.
I will pose this question then lads. Take the top 6 teams from Armagh Derry and Tyrone and put them into a league format with two in each league. Who would come out on top. The quality of Derry and Tyrone championships are undoubtedly of a highier standard than that in Armagh imo. With the exception of Cross and now the Og's (current champs) the other four teams would struggle to compete with Ballinderry, Bellagahy, Errigal, carrickmore, Ardboe, Dromore to name a few. These teams would have all have the potential to beat cross and certainly the og's who in my eyes are still second best in Armagh despite winning this years championship. Everyone hear is condeming the Derry championship saying because it is competitive then this doesn't neccessarily make it good. Then what does constitute a good championship??? If teams like Ballinderry and Bellaghy are not nailed on favs to win championships every year then the club championship has to be of decent standard.
Afs you are 100% when you talk about the mental issue within Armagh with respect to Cross, but yoda's point about teams not being good enough to take them on bad days is equally valid. There is no way the Cross would have won 13 championships in a row in Tyrone or Derry, i would even extend this to Monaghan as the monaghan champions always gave cross a decent game in Ulster. Acknowledging this is the case isn't taking away from Cross as they are a class act and it isn't being disrespectful to other clubs in armagh is is an observation that is based on many games over 13 years and one which i would agree with.
of course cross would have won almost all the derry titles in the past 13 years, as the rest of the derry teams would have been too busy fallin out with each other, thats why they cant put it together at county level too much baggage brought forward from club hates. LAVEY now there a mad bunch we haven't seen for some time as the man says u would have to back on Tuesday to get ur clothes from after the sunday match nutttts. Master Yoda u must be one of them ;D ;D have to agree that the tyrone and derry leagues and cship are more competitive than armagh u only had cross with pearse ogs and dromintee the only clubs regularily gettin any way close to them.
Win typical clans sour grapes how can u say that the ogs are second in armagh when they won the championship fair and square and competed with cross on all occassions this year. Even the cross boys acknowledged that the ogs are the best team this year. Also would have to agree that the other counties tyrone and derry are competively stronger. When will the clans be able to climb into the top tier in armagh to help improve the standard?? I think Dromintee will compete next year with ogs and cross. ???
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 17, 2009, 02:39:09 PM
I will pose this question then lads. Take the top 6 teams from Armagh Derry and Tyrone and put them into a league format with two in each league. Who would come out on top. The quality of Derry and Tyrone championships are undoubtedly of a highier standard than that in Armagh imo. With the exception of Cross and now the Og's (current champs) the other four teams would struggle to compete with Ballinderry, Bellagahy, Errigal, carrickmore, Ardboe, Dromore to name a few. These teams would have all have the potential to beat cross and certainly the og's who in my eyes are still second best in Armagh despite winning this years championship. Everyone hear is condeming the Derry championship saying because it is competitive then this doesn't neccessarily make it good. Then what does constitute a good championship??? If teams like Ballinderry and Bellaghy are not nailed on favs to win championships every year then the club championship has to be of decent standard.
Afs you are 100% when you talk about the mental issue within Armagh with respect to Cross, but yoda's point about teams not being good enough to take them on bad days is equally valid. There is no way the Cross would have won 13 championships in a row in Tyrone or Derry, i would even extend this to Monaghan as the monaghan champions always gave cross a decent game in Ulster. Acknowledging this is the case isn't taking away from Cross as they are a class act and it isn't being disrespectful to other clubs in armagh is is an observation that is based on many games over 13 years and one which i would agree with.
As I said, Derry does have the strongest "strength in depth" as it were as regards club teams, and the most capable of winning it. But I do feel the standard has gone back in the last couple of years. As for Tyrone, again a competitive championship. However, there lack of success at Ulster level counts against them. It just depends what is meant by what is the "best championship."
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 17, 2009, 02:39:09 PM
I will pose this question then lads. Take the top 6 teams from Armagh Derry and Tyrone and put them into a league format with two in each league. Who would come out on top. The quality of Derry and Tyrone championships are undoubtedly of a highier standard than that in Armagh imo. With the exception of Cross and now the Og's (current champs) the other four teams would struggle to compete with Ballinderry, Bellagahy, Errigal, carrickmore, Ardboe, Dromore to name a few. These teams would have all have the potential to beat cross and certainly the og's who in my eyes are still second best in Armagh despite winning this years championship. Everyone hear is condeming the Derry championship saying because it is competitive then this doesn't neccessarily make it good. Then what does constitute a good championship??? If teams like Ballinderry and Bellaghy are not nailed on favs to win championships every year then the club championship has to be of decent standard.
Afs you are 100% when you talk about the mental issue within Armagh with respect to Cross, but yoda's point about teams not being good enough to take them on bad days is equally valid. There is no way the Cross would have won 13 championships in a row in Tyrone or Derry, i would even extend this to Monaghan as the monaghan champions always gave cross a decent game in Ulster. Acknowledging this is the case isn't taking away from Cross as they are a class act and it isn't being disrespectful to other clubs in armagh is is an observation that is based on many games over 13 years and one which i would agree with.
Think you might be overstating the quality of some of Tyrone's top teams. No doubt their championship has great strenght in depth, maybe even greater than Derry, but the record of Tyrone clubs in Ulster suggests that their top teams are not much of an improvement on many other counties.
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Win typical clans sour grapes how can u say that the ogs are second in armagh when they won the championship fair and square and competed with cross on all occassions this year. Even the cross boys acknowledged that the ogs are the best team this year. Also would have to agree that the other counties tyrone and derry are competively stronger. When will the clans be able to climb into the top tier in armagh to help improve the standard?? I think Dromintee will compete next year with ogs and cross. ???
How is he being sour he he just gave his opinion. Most people would agree that Cross are still the best team, Ogs ran them close twice in the league and most importantly beat them in the sfc final (which might i add is probably the best thing to ever happen to club football in a long while). agree with you that dromintee will get their fingers out and challenge. as for your question regarding clans, still a team in transition, still off the pace but the signs are good.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Year Winner County Opponent County
2008 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Armagh Ballinderry 1-04 Derry
2007 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh St Gall's Antrim
2006 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Ballinderry Derry
2005 St Galls Antrim Bellaghy Derry
2004 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Mayobridge Down
2003 An Lúb Derry St Galls Antrim
2002 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
2001 Ballinderry Derry Mayobridge Down
2000 Bellaghy Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1999 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
1998 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1997 Dungiven Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1996 Crossmaglen Rangers* Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1995 Mullabawn Armagh Bailieboro Cavan
1994 Bellaghy Derry Clontibret O'NeillsMonaghan
1993 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Downpatrick Down
1992 Lavey* Derry Burren Down
1991 Castleblayney Faughs Monaghan Killybegs Donegal
1990 Lavey Derry Kingscourt Cavan
In the past 20 years Derry have had a team in all but 7 of the finals, thats why Derry people reckon that we have a very competitive club championship here.
In the last 20yrs:
Derry 5 different clubs
Down 3 different clubs
Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh 2 different clubs
Tyrone, Antrim, Fermanagh, Donegal 1 club
Quote from: Estimator on November 17, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Year Winner County Opponent County
2008 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Armagh Ballinderry 1-04 Derry
2007 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh St Gall's Antrim
2006 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Ballinderry Derry
2005 St Galls Antrim Bellaghy Derry
2004 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Mayobridge Down
2003 An Lúb Derry St Galls Antrim
2002 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
2001 Ballinderry Derry Mayobridge Down
2000 Bellaghy Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1999 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
1998 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1997 Dungiven Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1996 Crossmaglen Rangers* Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1995 Mullabawn Armagh Bailieboro Cavan
1994 Bellaghy Derry Clontibret O'NeillsMonaghan
1993 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Downpatrick Down
1992 Lavey* Derry Burren Down
1991 Castleblayney Faughs Monaghan Killybegs Donegal
1990 Lavey Derry Kingscourt Cavan
In the past 20 years Derry have had a team in all but 7 of the finals, thats why Derry people reckon that we have a very competitive club championship here.
In the last 20yrs:
Derry 5 different clubs
Down 3 different clubs
Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh 2 different clubs
Tyrone, Antrim, Fermanagh, Donegal 1 club
Like most statistics Estimator, they are skewed, in this instance with Cross's dominance in Armagh, you could say that proves your point, but I honestly feel that Dromintee at their height would've competed very strongly in Ulster if they had got over Cross in Armagh (see AFS's point about pyschological barriers with Cross) and the Ogs are capable of competing with Ulster's best at the minute (could well give St Gall's their best match in Ulster this year).
Yes, Derry club football is strong but not as strong as Derry people think it is, their champions had just as many problems with Cross as the forementioned clubs in Armagh had through the last decade with only Bellaghy beating them through that time.
oooppps somebody comes on to argue a point and gets it wrong. Loup also beat Cross in 2003.
Quote from: mackers on November 17, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: Estimator on November 17, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Year Winner County Opponent County
2008 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Armagh Ballinderry 1-04 Derry
2007 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh St Gall's Antrim
2006 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Ballinderry Derry
2005 St Galls Antrim Bellaghy Derry
2004 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Mayobridge Down
2003 An Lúb Derry St Galls Antrim
2002 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
2001 Ballinderry Derry Mayobridge Down
2000 Bellaghy Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1999 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
1998 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1997 Dungiven Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1996 Crossmaglen Rangers* Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1995 Mullabawn Armagh Bailieboro Cavan
1994 Bellaghy Derry Clontibret O'NeillsMonaghan
1993 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Downpatrick Down
1992 Lavey* Derry Burren Down
1991 Castleblayney Faughs Monaghan Killybegs Donegal
1990 Lavey Derry Kingscourt Cavan
In the past 20 years Derry have had a team in all but 7 of the finals, thats why Derry people reckon that we have a very competitive club championship here.
In the last 20yrs:
Derry 5 different clubs
Down 3 different clubs
Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh 2 different clubs
Tyrone, Antrim, Fermanagh, Donegal 1 club
Like most statistics Estimator, they are skewed, in this instance with Cross's dominance in Armagh, you could say that proves your point, but I honestly feel that Dromintee at their height would've competed very strongly in Ulster if they had got over Cross in Armagh (see AFS's point about pyschological barriers with Cross) and the Ogs are capable of competing with Ulster's best at the minute (could well give St Gall's their best match in Ulster this year).
Yes, Derry club football is strong but not as strong as Derry people think it is, their champions had just as many problems with Cross as the forementioned clubs in Armagh had through the last decade with only Bellaghy beating them through that time.
Did Cavan Gaels not take St Galls to extra time in the preliminary round?
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Win typical clans sour grapes how can u say that the ogs are second in armagh when they won the championship fair and square and competed with cross on all occassions this year. Even the cross boys acknowledged that the ogs are the best team this year. Also would have to agree that the other counties tyrone and derry are competively stronger. When will the clans be able to climb into the top tier in armagh to help improve the standard?? I think Dromintee will compete next year with ogs and cross. ???
Once again we see a poster that when the facts are stacked against their argument they go down the line of trying to turn it into a club versus club rivalry. This mentality really pushes my buttons. IMO the Cross are still a better team than the ogs even though the og's are deservedly Armagh champions this year. I can say this because it is a well known fact that sometimes the best team is beaten on the day for a variety of different reasons ( This is nothing to do with Clan Na Gael or sour grapes as i was glad to see the og's win for the greater good of Armagh football) how you came to that conclusion i don't know. If the og' were to meet the Cross in the first round next year i would fancy the cross again not because i am from the clans, nor is it sour grapes but it is because i think Cross are a better side. It happens regularly in all sports were an underdog will snatch a late winner . Even though the team they are playing is a better team they have still been beaten. I think were you are picking me up wrong is that you think because i am from another Armagh club you feel i don't think the og's deserved to win the county championship. The O'g's thoroughly deserved the championship win. Maybe this is why you feel the need to bring my club into a debate which has simply nothing to do with them.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 04:05:55 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 17, 2009, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: Estimator on November 17, 2009, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 17, 2009, 02:04:07 PM
Year Winner County Opponent County
2008 Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Armagh Ballinderry 1-04 Derry
2007 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh St Gall's Antrim
2006 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Ballinderry Derry
2005 St Galls Antrim Bellaghy Derry
2004 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Mayobridge Down
2003 An Lúb Derry St Galls Antrim
2002 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
2001 Ballinderry Derry Mayobridge Down
2000 Bellaghy Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1999 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Enniskillen Gaels Fermanagh
1998 Crossmaglen Rangers Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1997 Dungiven Derry Errigal Ciarán Tyrone
1996 Crossmaglen Rangers* Armagh Bellaghy Derry
1995 Mullabawn Armagh Bailieboro Cavan
1994 Bellaghy Derry Clontibret O'NeillsMonaghan
1993 Errigal Ciarán Tyrone Downpatrick Down
1992 Lavey* Derry Burren Down
1991 Castleblayney Faughs Monaghan Killybegs Donegal
1990 Lavey Derry Kingscourt Cavan
In the past 20 years Derry have had a team in all but 7 of the finals, thats why Derry people reckon that we have a very competitive club championship here.
In the last 20yrs:
Derry 5 different clubs
Down 3 different clubs
Cavan, Monaghan, Armagh 2 different clubs
Tyrone, Antrim, Fermanagh, Donegal 1 club
Like most statistics Estimator, they are skewed, in this instance with Cross's dominance in Armagh, you could say that proves your point, but I honestly feel that Dromintee at their height would've competed very strongly in Ulster if they had got over Cross in Armagh (see AFS's point about pyschological barriers with Cross) and the Ogs are capable of competing with Ulster's best at the minute (could well give St Gall's their best match in Ulster this year).
Yes, Derry club football is strong but not as strong as Derry people think it is, their champions had just as many problems with Cross as the forementioned clubs in Armagh had through the last decade with only Bellaghy beating them through that time.
Did Cavan Gaels not take St Galls to extra time in the preliminary round?
Correct so to date this has been their hardest game on paper anyway
In response to Yoda, aye they did. Had 3 sent off as well over the 80 mins.
I thought it was 4?
1 in normal time who was replaced and 3 in extra time. (With one potentially beign after final whistle)
Could be wrong though...
Come on St Gall's, win it for Antrim football and put it top of the pile!!!
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 17, 2009, 05:05:31 PM
I thought it was 4?
1 in normal time who was replaced and 3 in extra time. (With one potentially beign after final whistle)
Could be wrong though...
You are right actually, my mistake.
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 17, 2009, 04:10:14 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 02:48:42 PM
Win typical clans sour grapes how can u say that the ogs are second in armagh when they won the championship fair and square and competed with cross on all occassions this year. Even the cross boys acknowledged that the ogs are the best team this year. Also would have to agree that the other counties tyrone and derry are competively stronger. When will the clans be able to climb into the top tier in armagh to help improve the standard?? I think Dromintee will compete next year with ogs and cross. ???
Once again we see a poster that when the facts are stacked against their argument they go down the line of trying to turn it into a club versus club rivalry. This mentality really pushes my buttons. IMO the Cross are still a better team than the ogs even though the og's are deservedly Armagh champions this year. I can say this because it is a well known fact that sometimes the best team is beaten on the day for a variety of different reasons ( This is nothing to do with Clan Na Gael or sour grapes as i was glad to see the og's win for the greater good of Armagh football) how you came to that conclusion i don't know. If the og' were to meet the Cross in the first round next year i would fancy the cross again not because i am from the clans, nor is it sour grapes but it is because i think Cross are a better side. It happens regularly in all sports were an underdog will snatch a late winner . Even though the team they are playing is a better team they have still been beaten. I think were you are picking me up wrong is that you think because i am from another Armagh club you feel i don't think the og's deserved to win the county championship. The O'g's thoroughly deserved the championship win. Maybe this is why you feel the need to bring my club into a debate which has simply nothing to do with them.
settle my old friend u just tickle my soft spot at times. but the underdog didnt snatch a late winner but should have against st. galls. at least their manager gave the ogs due credit that we wernt far away and a good side. ah well see u later have to get back to shining the old cup ;)
Cross!!!
Antrim football will find last year hard to replicate, considering the draw and the unknown of the Qualifiers.
as for Ulster club, Naomh Gall have reached 6 finals and the Johnnies have reached 3, between us we have only won 3, thats not bad considering the quality of football (untill lately) was poor since the 50's golden years.
if we win on th 29th it will bound to hamper Bradley's early plans
Quote from: milltown row on November 17, 2009, 06:58:02 PM
Cross!!!
Antrim football will find last year hard to replicate, considering the draw and the unknown of the Qualifiers.
as for Ulster club, Naomh Gall have reached 6 finals and the Johnnies have reached 3, between us we have only won 3, thats not bad considering the quality of football (untill lately) was poor since the 50's golden years.
if we win on th 29th it will bound to hamper Bradley's early plans
I genuinely want to see them winning because given the way things have been in Antrim over the years the success does not reflect the quality that is in the county. With more success this will breed better teams and raise the level. Realistically with a strong club scene and a driven manager over the county team there can be county success.
The standard in Antrim is very poor outside of St Galls and to a lesser extent Cargin. It is up to the other clubs to try and reach the level St Galls have.
Dia Domhnaigh 29-11-09
Ulster Junior Football Championship Final:
St Teresas v Emyvale 12:45 Páirc Esler Newry Antrim Monaghan
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship Final:
Cookstown Father Rocks v Lavey Joe Biggars 14:30 Brewster Park Enniskillen Tyrone Cavan
Ulster Senior Football Championship Final:
St Galls v Loup St Patricks 14:30 Páirc Esler Newry Antrim Derry
Quote from: drici on November 18, 2009, 01:41:18 PM
Dia Domhnaigh 29-11-09
Ulster Junior Football Championship Final:
St Teresas v Emyvale 12:45 Páirc Esler Newry Antrim Monaghan
Ulster Intermediate Football Championship Final:
Cookstown Father Rocks v Lavey Joe Biggars 14:30 Brewster Park Enniskillen Tyrone Cavan
Ulster Senior Football Championship Final:
St Galls v Loup St Patricks 14:30 Páirc Esler Newry Antrim Derry
great common sense the Ulster Council have got it right. a Antrim Double header should be some crowd heading down for the games, early start for us
Thought Armagh was a cert for final considering the weather conditions lately (and location). The only ground that was still capable of taking 2 games consectutively when all the rest were flooded.
Quote from: bennydorano on November 18, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Thought Armagh was a cert for final considering the weather conditions lately (and location). The only ground that was still capable of taking 2 games consectutively when all the rest were flooded.
Probably would've been there but for the changing room situation.
christ they aren't great in Newry also
Quote from: milltown row on November 18, 2009, 09:01:04 PM
christ they aren't great in Newry also
Probably have more than two though
aye they do ;D
very small though. i'd to ask people to stay out of changing rooms as there was little room
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
You know St.Galls.
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
St Galls by 8 points.
Quote from: AFS on November 18, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 18, 2009, 05:52:06 PM
Thought Armagh was a cert for final considering the weather conditions lately (and location). The only ground that was still capable of taking 2 games consectutively when all the rest were flooded.
Probably would've been there but for the changing room situation.
Didn't hear too many complaints from the semis. One team used Abbey Park and travelled over togged out, not sure where the other team was.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 19, 2009, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
St Galls by 8 points.
:D Nice try Yoda!
The handicap at the minute is Loup plus 6 even money!!! cant see anyone winning by that margin
Quote from: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 06:12:59 PM
The handicap at the minute is Loup plus 6 even money!!! cant see anyone winning by that margin
Yep, tis unlikely although Galls on a good day are well capable of it.
Was talking to a man today and he was trying to convince me that the nucleus of this side are around 27-28 - is that true? I had them eternally young.
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
Excellent Senior football team, Division 2 hurling team, atrocious facilities.
Fair points. Apparently the spread they put on afterwards leaves a lot to be desired too.
Newry is a strange call. Will be bunged with people from the 26 counties (part of my country, but not my country) coming up to shop.
You can be guaranteed also that the peelers will be out in force along the A1. Be careful milltown.
Any decent pubs in Newry?
its ok i'm a law biding citizen (now)
I'll be going in the bus. should be down early to catch first game.
Minder will youse be putting on a spread come sunday? your sarnies are the best in the land. think i'll play that match me self.
oh and your changing rooms are as shite as ours
Quote from: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 09:28:59 PM
its ok i'm a law biding citizen (now)
I'll be going in the bus. should be down early to catch first game.
Minder will youse be putting on a spread come sunday? your sarnies are the best in the land. think i'll play that match me self.
oh and your changing rooms are as shite as ours
Your oul balls, we have four changing rooms for two teams, plenty of room. Your away changing rooms just about accomodate 15 players & the bog is usually filled to the neck with shite. I am sure we will have a spread on for youse. We may not have 15 players though !
i've tried every thing to get rid of the shite their. fookers keep winning football championships ;)
bring your gear so i can have a slap at ya
Quote from: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 09:38:54 PM
i've tried every thing to get rid of the shite their. fookers keep winning football championships ;)
bring your gear so i can have a slap at ya
Wont even be there to scream abuse at you, i will leave strict instructions with a few of the players though. Wife is for England on Sunday afternoon so cant make it.
Quote from: Minder on November 19, 2009, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 19, 2009, 09:38:54 PM
i've tried every thing to get rid of the shite their. fookers keep winning football championships ;)
bring your gear so i can have a slap at ya
Wont even be there to scream abuse at you, i will leave strict instructions with a few of the players though. Wife is for England on Sunday afternoon so cant make it.
I'm a inch taller and have grown hair............ :P
aye i'm 5' 2" now ;D ;D
This has probley been covered 100 times but I'll ask it anyway.
Why do Tyrone teams do so bad in the Ulster Club?
I been at a few of their Club Championship matches this year including the final and have been very impressed with the quailty, after the County final I thought Dromore would have been a very good bet for Ulster, but year in year out they fall flat on their faces in Ulster.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 20, 2009, 03:01:59 PM
This has probley been covered 100 times but I'll ask it anyway.
Why do Tyrone teams do so bad in the Ulster Club?
I been at a few of their Club Championship matches this year including the final and have been very impressed with the quailty, after the County final I thought Dromore would have been a very good bet for Ulster, but year in year out they fall flat on their faces in Ulster.
They try to play football. An Ardboe man told me that they played the Loup in A pre season friendly and that yunes were the dirtiest crowd of hooores they had ever played against.
hard to find the reason for that one, Carrickmore i thought would have been the best team of late in Ulster. Mainly cause they only had one county player. meant that they had their whole team prepared right and had good managers
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 20, 2009, 04:00:39 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 20, 2009, 03:01:59 PM
This has probley been covered 100 times but I'll ask it anyway.
Why do Tyrone teams do so bad in the Ulster Club?
I been at a few of their Club Championship matches this year including the final and have been very impressed with the quailty, after the County final I thought Dromore would have been a very good bet for Ulster, but year in year out they fall flat on their faces in Ulster.
They try to play football. An Ardboe man told me that they played the Loup in A pre season friendly and that yunes were the dirtiest crowd of hooores they had ever played against.
:D :D :D :D Thats the best laugh I've had in ages Winnie Peg :D :D can't stop laughing.
Must be very tough for you footballers in Tyrone to go out and play against the rest of the hallions in Ulster. :'(
Quote from: milltown row on November 20, 2009, 04:19:13 PM
hard to find the reason for that one, Carrickmore i thought would have been the best team of late in Ulster. Mainly cause they only had one county player. meant that they had their whole team prepared right and had good managers
I know where your coming from Milltown but I disagree about Carrickmore, although always there or there abouts in Tyrone because they are a tough no nonsense team who gives it 100% all the time i feel they haven't had the quality to be a serious threat in Ulster whereas Dromore I think have quality all over the pitch and I was very surprised they didn't give Ulster a serious run this year.
Thought it was between them and yourselves at the start of Ulster.
We keep hearing how good Tyrone teams are but based on the ulster championship over the last number of years the Tyrone championship is not near as tough as the Derry championship. Just because it is competitive doesn't make it of a great standard, just that the teams in it are of a fairly equal standard. I could argue that the down junior championship is competitive and some of the games are good to watch but it doesn't necessarily follow that the standard is that high (relatively speaking).
FIVE of the last 9 ulster senior club finals(including this year) have seen either loup or ballinderry been involved and also about 6 or 7 ulster minor club finals in the last 15 years between them,
to me that is nothing short of an outstanding achievement regardless of outcomes giving the fact that these 2 clubs are neighbouring parishes with the 2 club grounds about a mile apart and also the extremely small catchment area that each club has, then take into account the amount of clubs ther is in ulster,
Without a doubt a great achievement and a lot of players kicking themselves that they came good at the same time as an outstanding cross team. Frustrating to say the least
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence. By the way over the last 30 years how many Ulster club titles have gone to Donegal Cavan or Monaghan. I think one or two went to Castleblaney but outside of that I dont remember many. Has anyone from Down won it since the Paddy O Rourke Burren team?
Quote from: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence. By the way over the last 30 years how many Ulster club titles have gone to Donegal Cavan or Monaghan. I think one or two went to Castleblaney but outside of that I dont remember many. Has anyone from Down won it since the Paddy O Rourke Burren team?
Since 1979 Monaghan clubs have won the Ulster club 5 times, Scotstown winning 3 and Blayney 2. Scotstown won it in '78 aswell. But the last win was Blayney in '91, since then the record of Monaghan clubs in Ulster is very poor. We're the last club to get to the final but that's 15 years ago now
Donegal's last Ulster club win was in 1975, while a Cavan club has never won it.
Quote from: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence. By the way over the last 30 years how many Ulster club titles have gone to Donegal Cavan or Monaghan. I think one or two went to Castleblaney but outside of that I dont remember many. Has anyone from Down won it since the Paddy O Rourke Burren team?
No Down team since the late 80s. Burren where like the Cross of the 80s. Downpatrick, Burren and Mayobridge have made the final since then but no winners.
Quote from: cc09 on November 20, 2009, 06:14:16 PM
FIVE of the last 9 ulster senior club finals(including this year) have seen either loup or ballinderry been involved and also about 6 or 7 ulster minor club finals in the last 15 years between them,
to me that is nothing short of an outstanding achievement regardless of outcomes giving the fact that these 2 clubs are neighbouring parishes with the 2 club grounds about a mile apart and also the extremely small catchment area
that each club has, then take into account the amount of clubs ther is in ulster,
i think that phrase might be a sore point with their neighboring clubs!
gac = grab all club?
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
Quote from: cc09 on November 20, 2009, 06:14:16 PM
FIVE of the last 9 ulster senior club finals(including this year) have seen either loup or ballinderry been involved and also about 6 or 7 ulster minor club finals in the last 15 years between them,
to me that is nothing short of an outstanding achievement regardless of outcomes giving the fact that these 2 clubs are neighbouring parishes with the 2 club grounds about a mile apart and also the extremely small catchment area
that each club has, then take into account the amount of clubs ther is in ulster,
i think that phrase might be a sore point with their neighboring clubs!
gac = grab all club?
I hear that the Loup would be prone to a few outsiders but never heard of any Ballinderry players gaagaa. Who of them don't come from Ballinderry?
Quote from: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence.
Not hard to do when they transfer in any promising underage talent in Belfast.
Its one of the things that is ruining the Antrim county setup. Good youth players transferring at underage level to the big club to try and win trophies, then spending the following year or 2 picking splinters out of their backside benches when they need to be playing flat out... then a year or two after they give up.
If I was in charge in Antrim, my
very first change would be the complete ban of underage transfers within the Belfast area (i.e. from one Belfast club to another).
(sits back and awaits the self-interest group to arrive)
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 21, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
i think that phrase might be a sore point with their neighboring clubs!
gac = grab all club?
I hear that the Loup would be prone to a few outsiders but never heard of any Ballinderry players gaagaa. Who of them don't come from Ballinderry?
there would be a few from underage and brian mcguckian came in recently though i think he may have moved
a few of there neighbors would have been annoyed at them taking cubs from their cathcment area
Quote from: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence. By the way over the last 30 years how many Ulster club titles have gone to Donegal Cavan or Monaghan. I think one or two went to Castleblaney but outside of that I dont remember many. Has anyone from Down won it since the Paddy O Rourke Burren team?
A dual club that pays only lip service to hurling, reference U-21 Semi a few weeks back when they didn't field because the footballers were playing the next day. We played St Galls in a hurling championship match a couple of years ago and St Galls struggled to get a team, at home, because the footballers were playing Ballinderry in a friendly that day.................
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 21, 2009, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: slow corner back on November 21, 2009, 08:02:43 PM
St Galls have been there or thereabouts for the last six years, and unlike Cross, Ballinderry or Loup they are a dual club and come from a county with a poor enough record in club championship prior to St Galls emergence.
Not hard to do when they transfer in any promising underage talent in Belfast.
Its one of the things that is ruining the Antrim county setup. Good youth players transferring at underage level to the big club to try and win trophies, then spending the following year or 2 picking splinters out of their backside benches when they need to be playing flat out... then a year or two after they give up.
If I was in charge in Antrim, my very first change would be the complete ban of underage transfers within the Belfast area (i.e. from one Belfast club to another).
(sits back and awaits the self-interest group to arrive)
Minder in the years that i've played senior hurling (20) we've won more games against you!! we also managed to compete in more minor finals and under 21 finals. i'd say our standing in hurling is the same
Ok ill-informed I'll help you out.
Belfast does not have Parish boundaries most cities don't. We've two players that play for us that didn't play as juveniles. Ronan move to the club 5/6 years ago as he worked in Belfast. Fermanagh is 2+ hours away 4 return. You of course would travel and play for your local club
All the clubs in Belfast have players from outside. This is not uncommon in most major towns and cities throughout Ireland. Better still you'd expect players to travel home from London and play for their local team?
As for the ban on players not being able to transfer from clubs in Antrim at juvenile level, it is in place, so again you're full of it
I know of many ex Galls players who have moved from the area and have their own kids playing for local clubs. My own lad played for St Enda's. Local club to him.
We also have three senior teams so that we don't have kids picking splinters from their backsides we also have two senior hurling clubs (all county) to facilitate all comers. You're probably from a single code club which in itself is killing Gaa traditions.
I await your response
Nobody is questioning your hurling teams Milltown or the ability, could haveade far more with it but for the bogball, but when hardy comes to hardy football takes precedence. And the match I am talking about a few years ago you were a dirty wee bastard......... :o
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 21, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
i think that phrase might be a sore point with their neighboring clubs!
gac = grab all club?
I hear that the Loup would be prone to a few outsiders but never heard of any Ballinderry players gaagaa. Who of them don't come from Ballinderry?
there would be a few from underage and brian mcguckian came in recently though i think he may have moved
a few of there neighbors would have been annoyed at them taking cubs from their cathcment area
Is any playing for their senior team?
Quote from: Minder on November 21, 2009, 11:54:22 PM
Nobody is questioning your hurling teams Milltown or the ability, could haveade far more with it but for the bogball, but when hardy comes to hardy football takes precedence. And the match I am talking about a few years ago you were a dirty wee b**tard......... :o
was a bad day when that happened. i was selector on that team, caused problems and the club suffered for it. previous year we should have beaten Loughgiel at Casement in the semi lost by 3. we also got to croke that year. football was not the problem
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 11:05:10 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on November 21, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
Quote from: gaagaa on November 21, 2009, 09:23:56 PM
i think that phrase might be a sore point with their neighboring clubs!
gac = grab all club?
I hear that the Loup would be prone to a few outsiders but never heard of any Ballinderry players gaagaa. Who of them don't come from Ballinderry?
there would be a few from underage and brian mcguckian came in recently though i think he may have moved
a few of there neighbors would have been annoyed at them taking cubs from their cathcment area
OK, if you are going to make allegations against my club, back them up with facts.
Brian McGuckin got married and built a house on his family land in Ballinderry. He duly tansferred to the Shamrocks. His family are all Ballinderry people, his Dad moved to Tyrone when he got married. Hardly an outsider, but I'll give you that.
Your second comment about taking cubs from nighbouring clubs is the one I will take issue with. Our neighbouring clubs are Loup, Ardboe, Moortown, Ogra Colmcille, Moneymore. Name one underage player in the last 20 years who we have taken from any of these clubs.
theyre still a shower of bastards 8)
I know of many ex Galls players who have moved from the area and have their own kids playing for local clubs. My own lad played for St Enda's. Local club to him.
We also have three senior teams so that we don't have kids picking splinters from their backsides we also have two senior hurling clubs (all county) to facilitate all comers. You're probably from a single code club which in itself is killing Gaa traditions.
I await your response
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You see this is one of the things that annoys me with the mindset of some people in the GAA. The GAA is all about tradition and pride in your own club. Families have been associated with club right throughout Ireland from the formation of the club and these families and still existant today. Now i can understand a lad that moves to a new city or a town that is too far away from his own club. The lad wants to play Gaelic games of course he should be able to play anywhere he wants. But this is not the same for a child whose parents decide to move 15 minutes down the road, suddenly a transfer request is put in an accepted on the grounds of relocation. Personally i could never imagine playing for another club i don't think i would have the same levels of pride that i have when i put my own clubs jersey on. I would also feel like an outsider at another club because the only thing i share in common with the new club would be the games. I couldn't sit down with them and say do you remember at u-10 level we won such and such a cup and we used to go to the local shop and get a bun and drink. These things may seem small to some but are crucial if we are to sustain the GAA as it has been. It is well documented that some of the bigger clubs in Dublin have big time exploited transfer rules bringing in new players from other counties in an attempt to buy success. This is wrong and shouldn't be allowed to happen. These clubs should start soccer clubs as this is the kind of behaviour i would expect from local pub teams on a Saturday afternoon.
i dont like reacting to clowns but i have bought the bait,
johnny mc bride is originally 4m drummulan..he came to the loup at 7 r 8 years of age with his cousin..he never played gaelic before this,, johnny then went on to captain the club to "A" grade success at u12, u14, u16, minor and senior levels including provinicial success at u-15, minor and senior level..
we have one other player who lives outside the parish boundaries..brian doyle..he was brought up in our parish and moved about half a mile outsde the radius when he was young..brian went to st patricks primary school loup along with his brothers and cousins nd played for loup at all youth levels..
both two die hard loup men like all of us..i dont think the likes of st galls and other clubs realise how small our parishes are..our club has 96 official members..
in fairness ballinderry dont poach players either,,so any1 who claims that either of us do are complete fools
winsamsoon. go back to your village team and enjoy the craic. i play/manage/volunteer for a club that has all the vaules asscoiated with the Gaa ethos. we Play Ladies Football Hurling Football and Handball we also have a thriving Scor. All this in one West Belfast club.
i answered your quote that clubs ban transfers. they do already. you've also said that you don't expect players to travel long distances when they move. so i'm confused with your complaint. is it Dublin clubs ya hate or just anyone but youselves
the players i'm talking about who moved have moved to different towns. By moving to parish clubs they are becoming part of that clubs fabric.
for 9 out 10 players they have those memories of the bun and drink. can't honestly think that putting on another top from a club would be for me. but people do and they are as much a GAA person than you
Firstly Milltown i don't come from a village i am from lurgan and there are at least 6 clubs within a 3 or 4 mile radius. The majority of the clubs are made up of families that have always been associated with these clubs. I think this is proper and wouldn't advocate anything else.
Secondly i never once mention St Gall's i was speaking in general terms, only citing the Dublin clubs because they have probably exploited it the most. I wouldn't be well enough informed on the Loup or any other Derry club to cast aspersions so i wouldn't dream of doing it.
Thirdly i don't recall entering a quote stating to ban transfers, if you read again you will find you are combining two arguments into one.
Fourthly i never said that people who make these transfers are any less GAA people than me because to me the guy that washes the skips is as important as the lad who wins three All Stars. It is an organisation for the people to keep tradition and culture at the forefront of our lives and it does so successfully.
When i see bigger clubs with a few pounds behind them transferring in players from all across the country then IMO this threatens the key issue of loyalty and culture throughout the club. For example since i have already been accused of taking issue with St Gall's i may aswell play the double Jeopardy card. If the two Gallagher lads who were entitled to play for anyone as they have relocated to Belfast (presuming this is the reason behind it). Why is is that they choose the most successful team in the Belfast area. I am sure they could have went to some of the other clubs around the area. So it could be said then from someone outside of the Belfast area(not a village ) that they only choose St Gall's because they were in search of glory and not that they just wanted to play Gaelic. I would nearly say that there are handier clubs than St Gall's for them lads but i may be wrong
as a club we don't have any money, skint like the other clubs outside of Dublin. any money raised is done by the players and members.
why did two players join St Galls? ask them. Ronan Gallagher couldn't make our senior team until Paddy Murray retired, and Rory has been subbed most games this year. no one is assured a place on the team.
OK your relocated to Dublin. your a decent footballer/hurler. what club would you prefer to join?
Players all over have moved from clubs for various reasons, St Thomonds College won the All Ireland club title beating St Johns Belfast, they had players from all over Ireland playing for them (so did St Johns :o) it will continue to happen. we have two players, big deal.
so as a club you don't have any outsiders, as players or managers?
good man milltown you give win plenty of stick. Have to agree you,s are doin a great job for the gaa in west belfast. Ask win about the outsiders clans have had in recent years, even an antrim man ;)
The point that i am getting at is that these players are making the game a farce. I noticed the way you dodged the question when i asked you why did they join St Gall's. You didn't know the answer but you could probably defend every other point. I will tell you the answer it is because they are the most successful team in the area. So it wasn't just because they wanted to play Gaelic it was because they wanted glory. The ordinary clubman on the other hand will knock his pan in year in and year out for the love of his club and the hope of winning an odd league or intermediate championship and there lies the difference. If you asked an ordinary club member to move to St Gall's then they would say no i am happy with what i have at my own club because therein lie the traditions and people that they have grown up with. Certain players like Mc Geeney and Mc Nulty's (to come away from Antrim examples ) are taking the game away from this. They have a duty to play for their own club and not to go elsewhere simply because the glory and in some cases the pay is good. It is not what our game is about.
With regardes to Wanderer apart from a St Johns player there have been few others that have came to my club from any other . The player is question wasn't paid or offered special deals. He moved to Lurgan with his family. It was his decision to join Clan Na Galel but what probably swayed his decision was the fact that we are the most successful team in that area and this is wrong. So even though it happens at many clubs, i cannot do anything about this but it doesn't make it right whether it be my club or any other. Just on the subject a couple of years back we had a player that moved to Donegal with his family that lad traveled up to Lurgan and back twice a week for ttraining , sometimes more and a game at the weekend. He could have played for any other club in Donegal but he knew where his heart was. To me it is players like this that hold the true essence and spirirt of the game and not the lad who goes where the glory is. It will soon be like soccer if this persists along with the pay for play deals.
Quote from: milltown row on November 21, 2009, 11:40:30 PM
As for the ban on players not being able to transfer from clubs in Antrim at juvenile level, it is in place, so again you're full of it
If you are stating there is a ban on juvenile transfers within Belfast, you are incorrect.
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on November 23, 2009, 07:29:13 PM
Quote from: milltown row on November 21, 2009, 11:40:30 PM
As for the ban on players not being able to transfer from clubs in Antrim at juvenile level, it is in place, so again you're full of it
If you are stating there is a ban on juvenile transfers within Belfast, you are incorrect.
am i? go onto the Antrim Website and ask the admin. they will tell you. also check out some threads on the Antrim Hoganstand Forum threads about it also.
why do you think there isn't?
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 23, 2009, 07:00:49 PM
The point that i am getting at is that these players are making the game a farce. I noticed the way you dodged the question when i asked you why did they join St Gall's. You didn't know the answer but you could probably defend every other point. I will tell you the answer it is because they are the most successful team in the area. So it wasn't just because they wanted to play Gaelic it was because they wanted glory. The ordinary clubman on the other hand will knock his pan in year in and year out for the love of his club and the hope of winning an odd league or intermediate championship and there lies the difference. If you asked an ordinary club member to move to St Gall's then they would say no i am happy with what i have at my own club because therein lie the traditions and people that they have grown up with. Certain players like Mc Geeney and Mc Nulty's (to come away from Antrim examples ) are taking the game away from this. They have a duty to play for their own club and not to go elsewhere simply because the glory and in some cases the pay is good. It is not what our game is about.
With regardes to Wanderer apart from a St Johns player there have been few others that have came to my club from any other . The player is question wasn't paid or offered special deals. He moved to Lurgan with his family. It was his decision to join Clan Na Galel but what probably swayed his decision was the fact that we are the most successful team in that area and this is wrong. So even though it happens at many clubs, i cannot do anything about this but it doesn't make it right whether it be my club or any other. Just on the subject a couple of years back we had a player that moved to Donegal with his family that lad traveled up to Lurgan and back twice a week for ttraining , sometimes more and a game at the weekend. He could have played for any other club in Donegal but he knew where his heart was. To me it is players like this that hold the true essence and spirirt of the game and not the lad who goes where the glory is. It will soon be like soccer if this persists along with the pay for play deals.
I told you to ask them. Rory came i'd say cause his brother played. Ronan came cause he was friends with a player form college.
no pay for any of our players. we have NO MONEY. The taditions you look for is great but don't lambast my club, we didn't ask for these players. our club has a great name for GAA maybe thats the reason people are keen to join should they move to Belfast
I think the first thing a player considers when chosing a club is his own ability. no point joining st galls if you're not going to get on. How many clubs has gallagher played for before joining them just out of interest? I can see where winsam is coming from regarding club loyalty.
what about st brigid's, there's bound to be a few backhanders went on to get them to where they are now
They all live in Malone/South Belfast. the players or families don't lack money. so i doubt backhanders is a reason for players at St Brigid's, its a new club so players usully come from 'outside' give it a chance. very progressive club and even had a divisional hurling club for a season or two. better than those single code clubs which are not part of the GAA ethos (IMO anyway)
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
I think the first thing a player considers when chosing a club is his own ability. no point joining st galls if you're not going to get on. How many clubs has gallagher played for before joining them just out of interest? I can see where winsam is coming from regarding club loyalty.
Didn't stop some, Mr Kane being one example.
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 23, 2009, 08:25:43 PM
what about st brigid's, there's bound to be a few backhanders went on to get them to where they are now
Don't think there are any back handers involved with any clubs now. More of a north Armagh thing I always thought.
In Belfast, outsiders will be attracted to Belfast clubs for a number of reasons:
1. How their ability matches the club's ability. Whereas St. John's (in the distant past) and St.Paul's (in the more recent past) would have had quite a few higher profile players, it is now St. Gall's turn. Likewise clubs like Rossa, Lamh Dhearg and St Agnes, who are at various lower stages of the food chain will still get their share of smaller fish. Not that I'm calling big Ronan fat.
2. Friends / work mates already involved with a particular club.
3. Desire to play at a higher level. This is particularly true of the likes of the Drake brothers, McCrossan etc. who transferred from junior clubs to a senior club.
4. But definitely not, and I'm being serious here, financial inducements.
Luckily milltown row's hurlers are above reproach here. Aren't they? They even turned down a former Clare panellist who offered his services, although something about Eire Og is nagging away at me.
Some very fair points there Sam. Who is the Kane you speak of though, and who did he transfer from?
A John Kane, son of Val and nephew of DJ. May have played for Ballyholland or Shamrocks and was last seen managing Kilclief. Was living about Bangor / Holywood when he was registered for Naomh Gall. The tenuous connection appears to have been the Ulster Colleges' Council.
over the years there have been players who came to the club to play hurling also, that club didn't hurl (which is fair enough) I've never denied that. that lad played in an All Ireland Club football final, some feat for a lad who only wanted to hurl.
John Kane, School teacher? Brown hair, fast as fook? if its him lovely lad. whatever happend to that fella?
Who's the McCrossan you refer to Sam? I'd be familiar with some of the others but not him.
There is most definitely no money involved here by the way.
St Brigid's have many more south belfast players than people give them credit for. Take an example - they currently have two county panelists and both played through the ranks. A lot of their team came through their ranks. You have to remember that they are one of few clubs in south belfast and with it being "affluent" people are going to move there for employment purposes and want to play football.
This makes them no worse than small country clubs. I'm from a small country club and we have had our ringers over the years. We've not had a massive amount however we've not turned anyone away either - particularly the ones who can play...
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
Who's the McCrossan you refer to Sam? I'd be familiar with some of the others but not him.
There is most definitely no money involved here by the way.
St Brigid's have many more south belfast players than people give them credit for. Take an example - they currently have two county panelists and both played through the ranks. A lot of their team came through their ranks. You have to remember that they are one of few clubs in south belfast and with it being "affluent" people are going to move there for employment purposes and want to play football.
This makes them no worse than small country clubs. I'm from a small country club and we have had our ringers over the years. We've not had a massive amount however we've not turned anyone away either - particularly the ones who can play...
Trone lad who has been teaching in CBS Glend road. doesn't play anymore, scored the winning goal against Bellaghy in the Ulster final (fcuk, we should hand that one back)
Quote from: imtommygunn on November 23, 2009, 10:11:28 PM
Who's the McCrossan you refer to Sam? I'd be familiar with some of the others but not him.
Ciaran "Dregish" McCrossan. Played chb / mf on the team that made the All-Ireland final.
Beat me to it mr.
John Kane's managing Kilclief this year. I think I read that somewhere. I know I did - I read it here.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 23, 2009, 09:57:31 PM
A John Kane, son of Val and nephew of DJ. May have played for Ballyholland or Shamrocks and was last seen managing Kilclief. Was living about Bangor / Holywood when he was registered for Naomh Gall. The tenuous connection appears to have been the Ulster Colleges' Council.
::) ::) ::)
we left out what he likes for tea!!
Starting to get excited about this game now.
Some very intriguing issues nagging at me already.
Will Naomh Gall complete the Oak Leaf hat trick, having previously seen off Bellaghy and Glenuillin or will An Lub make it a Milltown double?
During the game, how many times will the An Lub's (yes I have a stutter too) substitutes run into the St. Gall's manager whilst conducting their warm up?
Will either manager throw screed at the crowd?
Will the best referee ever Pat McEnaney be fooled, once more (like he was with wee Peter in 2001), by the skullduggery of Littlebridge's finest, Johnny McBride?
Why do the peelers have a speed trap in the 40 zone just past the Newry 6 sign, where (as you are going down hill) it is a physical impossibility to travel at 40mph or less?
What does An Lub mean? I know it means the Loup, but what is a Loup?
Hell of a big bend if it weaves its way through Magherafelt, Drumullan, Liitlebridge and Ballinderry.
great game to look forward to, Loup are great at grinding out results and can be cute when it comes 'making scores'
last day out against Loup we failed to play the type of game that took us to the final in 2003. and it became a struggle, was pretty much an ugly game.
Brennan is no mug either, and may have blockers in place to stop our running game, with some winding up for the usual tagets (though they have not reacted this year) they can play good football but their downfall has to be Benny tipping them today in the Irish News
i'm going for a low a low scoring game- 0-10 to 0-9
I was confident of a comfortable St Gall's victory a week ago, now, with the country half flooded, I'm beginning to waver a bit. Derry sides have a history of revelling in dirty wet conditions as is their daily lifestyle even when the sun is high in the sky. Ballinderry's most recent All-Ireland will live long in the memory. Pigs in shite. They've been through a couple of dogged affairs whilst the Milltown men waltzed their way through Antrim and were only briefly tested against Cavan Gaels.
Gall's' trump card is their options in attack. The three McGourtys can wreak havoc if on form. Kevin seems to be coming good the longer the season goes on, CJ is starting to shine and the other one who I can't remember is the most underrated player on the side - playmaker extraordinaire. Odd posture though. Gallagher will be a marked man and can blow hot and cold. I can see Veronica getting some close attention because of his name. That wouldn't go down well in Willie Anderson land.
A draw. 8-8.
gives sunny weather for Sunday. the pitch is better than it has been in the past. we played there after a long spell of rain and the pitch was fine.
8 each should it be raining on Sunday is a good bet
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 25, 2009, 09:48:21 PM
Starting to get excited about this game now.
Some very intriguing issues nagging at me already.
Will Naomh Gall complete the Oak Leaf hat trick, having previously seen off Bellaghy and Glenuillin or will An Lub make it a Milltown double?
During the game, how many times will the An Lub's (yes I have a stutter too) substitutes run into the St. Gall's manager whilst conducting their warm up?
Will either manager throw screed at the crowd?
Will the best referee ever Pat McEnaney be fooled, once more (like he was with wee Peter in 2001), by the skullduggery of Littlebridge's finest, Johnny McBride?
Why do the peelers have a speed trap in the 40 zone just past the Newry 6 sign, where (as you are going down hill) it is a physical impossibility to travel at 40mph or less?
What does An Lub mean? I know it means the Loup, but what is a Loup?
The Loup is small hamlet in south derry which is about 4 mile outside of Magherafelt.
If you have any more questions about the names or locations of places don't hesitate to ask because I know the most of you wee chainsaws ( this is except for the really adventurous ones who come out of Belfast to steal cars, but their the few, most of youse just steal your neighbours cars ) have never been outside of Belfast before so all these new places confuse you.
PS. Youse could always just ask Rory where the places are as he's been all over the country ;D
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
The Loup is small hamlet in south derry which is about 4 mile outside of Magherafelt.
South Derry is about 4 miles outside of Magherafelt? Strange, I thought (from my rare excursions beyond Hannahstown) that Magherafelt was in south Derry.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
If you have any more questions about the names or locations of places don't hesitate to ask because I know the most of you wee chainsaws ( this is except for the really adventurous ones who come out of Belfast to steal cars, but their the few, most of youse just steal your neighbours cars ) have never been outside of Belfast before so all these new places confuse you.
If that is your 'wittiest' reposte, then please forgive me if I do hesitate to ask.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
PS. Youse could always just ask Rory where the places are as he's been all over the country ;D
We could also ask him if he knows Paddy McGuinness.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 25, 2009, 09:48:21 PM
Starting to get excited about this game now.
Some very intriguing issues nagging at me already.
Will Naomh Gall complete the Oak Leaf hat trick, having previously seen off Bellaghy and Glenuillin or will An Lub make it a Milltown double?
During the game, how many times will the An Lub's (yes I have a stutter too) substitutes run into the St. Gall's manager whilst conducting their warm up?
Will either manager throw screed at the crowd?
Will the best referee ever Pat McEnaney be fooled, once more (like he was with wee Peter in 2001), by the skullduggery of Littlebridge's finest, Johnny McBride?
Why do the peelers have a speed trap in the 40 zone just past the Newry 6 sign, where (as you are going down hill) it is a physical impossibility to travel at 40mph or less?
What does An Lub mean? I know it means the Loup, but what is a Loup?
Hope John behaves himself on Sunday, if he throws anything in to the crowd the lads will think there back at home and start a riot hye.
Will St Galls be bringing more than the usual two dozen supporters they get for league games in Milltown?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 26, 2009, 09:12:19 AM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
The Loup is small hamlet in south derry which is about 4 mile outside of Magherafelt.
South Derry is about 4 miles outside of Magherafelt? Strange, I thought (from my rare excursions beyond Hannahstown) that Magherafelt was in south Derry.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
If you have any more questions about the names or locations of places don't hesitate to ask because I know the most of you wee chainsaws ( this is except for the really adventurous ones who come out of Belfast to steal cars, but their the few, most of youse just steal your neighbours cars ) have never been outside of Belfast before so all these new places confuse you.
If that is your 'wittiest' reposte, then please forgive me if I do hesitate to ask.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 08:52:58 AM
PS. Youse could always just ask Rory where the places are as he's been all over the country ;D
We could also ask him if he knows Paddy McGuinness.
He's bound to know Paddy, would they not have played for Fermanagh together before Rory turned his back on his own county and run off trying to get a bit of glory with Dublin?
Quote from: Minder on November 26, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
Will St Galls be bringing more than the usual two dozen supporters they get for league games in Milltown?
Hope there is more than 2 dozen, I am looking forward to seeing all the quality moustaches :D :D
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 26, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
Will St Galls be bringing more than the usual two dozen supporters they get for league games in Milltown?
Hope there is more than 2 dozen, I am looking forward to seeing all the quality moustaches :D :D
I would say there will be more moustaches on the Derry females.
Quote from: Minder on November 26, 2009, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 26, 2009, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Minder on November 26, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
Will St Galls be bringing more than the usual two dozen supporters they get for league games in Milltown?
Hope there is more than 2 dozen, I am looking forward to seeing all the quality moustaches :D :D
I would say there will be more moustaches on the Derry females.
:D :D
Do you have a moustache Minder?
Typical south Londonderry girls
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/26/article-1089533-007497E800000258-636_468x342.jpg)
I curted the one on the right at the back of the Greenvale.
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/ilove/years/1990/gallery/340/harry.jpg)
Typical West Belfast family.
Out of your depth on here Master Yoda.
I'm told big Darren O'Hare (a bag of sugar under 20 stone in weight) is being given the Maor Uisce bib for Sunday. He's been told to stand beside Brennan and threaten manners if there is any physical interference with the Galls mentors. Worked when Lamh Dhearg gave the bib to big Fitzy.
This Brennan chappy appears to be taking on mythical status. Irish News has him up to championships with six different clubs in three different counties; I'm thinking Lavey, Loup and Slaughtniel in Derry; Carmen in Tyrone and Cargin in Antrim. Who's the other? Or can we expect, by Monday for it to be growing expotentially - 27 titles in eight counties in three different sports.
Good look to Saint Teresa's and Saint Gall's on Sunday. This year has been a successful football season for us as a county and you have the support of everyone in Antrim. Lets round off 2009 with silverware to show for it. Good look lads.
Quote from: Olly on November 27, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
Good look to Saint Teresa's and Saint Gall's on Sunday. This year has been a successful football season for us as a county and you have the support of everyone in Antrim. Lets round off 2009 with silverware to show for it. Good look lads.
are you taking the piss or can you just not spell luck?
Leave poor OLLY alone he means well as he doesn't accept the queens language ;D
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 27, 2009, 12:14:39 PM
Out of your depth on here Master Yoda.
I'm told big Darren O'Hare (a bag of sugar under 20 stone in weight) is being given the Maor Uisce bib for Sunday. He's been told to stand beside Brennan and threaten manners if there is any physical interference with the Galls mentors. Worked when Lamh Dhearg gave the bib to big Fitzy.
This Brennan chappy appears to be taking on mythical status. Irish News has him up to championships with six different clubs in three different counties; I'm thinking Lavey, Loup and Slaughtniel in Derry; Carmen in Tyrone and Cargin in Antrim. Who's the other? Or can we expect, by Monday for it to be growing expotentially - 27 titles in eight counties in three different sports.
:D :D
Is that the big lad who used to play full forward for St Galls?
No that was his da ;)
Darren still plays, made a valuable contribution in St Galls win over Cavan Gaels.
He's a bit of an all round sports man, he recently got narrowly defeated on points in a boxing match against David Haye in Germany.
Many commentators felt that the decision was daylight robbery.
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on November 27, 2009, 03:49:15 PM
Darren still plays, made a valuable contribution in St Galls win over Cavan Gaels.
He's a bit of an all round sports man, he recently got narrowly defeated on points in a boxing match against David Haye in Germany.
Many commentators felt that the decision was daylight robbery.
No way.
serious selection problem ahead for Sunday. all players through last nights training and all fit and raring to go. Naomh Galls bench is very stong with quality footballers and this may have beaing on the game.
i know the team i'd like to see, but Lenny will have done his homework and hopefully our club will go into our centenary year with two All Ireland Semi Finals in both codes to look forward to.
proper Gaa
Atticus, if Darren got his hands on ya you'd look like Yoda
Big John O'Brien is John Brennans right hand man and I'm sure he'd be able to handle any of the St Galls lads including big Darren O'hare. ;D
Quote from: milltown row on November 27, 2009, 04:01:29 PM
serious selection problem ahead for Sunday. all players through last nights training and all fit and raring to go. Naomh Galls bench is very stong with quality footballers and this may have beaing on the game.
i know the team i'd like to see, but Lenny will have done his homework and hopefully our club will go into our centenary year with two All Ireland Semi Finals in both codes to look forward to.
proper Gaa
Atticus, if Darren got his hands on ya you'd look like Yoda
All joking aside Milltown it must be a nightmare trying to pick the St Galls team with the players that youse have, must be very hard to keep everyone happy but I suppose its a good problem to have.
the team really picks itself to a certain point.
after 8 championships in 9/10 years, as many minor titles and under 21 titles they are all looking to get on that team.
there are at least 35 players on that squad. majority all goodins
Good Luck to St Gall's on Sunday (and to St Teresa's too). Another fillip for Antrim football if both were victorious.
The danger of a team being as successful as St Galls have been in the past 10 years is that it leaves it very hard for good young players to break onto the team and sooner normally, rather than later you lose them young players to other sports or to the evils of booze, drugs and women ( not necessarily in that order ).
This is to a certain what happened to the brilliant Bellaghy team in the late 90's and early 2000's and to a certain extent has happened Ballinderry over the past 2- 3 years, but again success is not a bad problem to have.
our club woud not have major problems, having 3 senior all county and 2 all county hurling teams we have plenty of teams for players to play for. for the ones looking to just enjoy we have two divisional teams (south antrim)
our biggest problem is losing players to overseas colleges, they don't always come back
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 27, 2009, 04:10:12 PM
Big John O'Brien is John Brennans right hand man and I'm sure he'd be able to handle any of the St Galls lads including big Darren O'hare. ;D
Bet he couldn't take Mackers' da though....
Quote from: gallsman on November 27, 2009, 05:31:47 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 27, 2009, 04:10:12 PM
Big John O'Brien is John Brennans right hand man and I'm sure he'd be able to handle any of the St Galls lads including big Darren O'hare. ;D
Bet he couldn't take Mackers' da though....
I don't know Macker's da but I'd say big John would take him no bother.
Good Luck to St. Gall's on Sunday. Would be nice an Antrim team at the top. Would be good for football.
I'm told there is a big sickeness bug in the st galls team. Anyone know about this?
Quote from: Olly on November 27, 2009, 08:46:32 PM
I'm told there is a big sickeness bug in the st galls team. Anyone know about this?
shit, with that news and the news coming through that 13 of the Loup starting 15 have tested positive for swine flu, the final might have to be postponed for another week, at least it'll give tg4 a chance to show deferred, deferred, edited highlights maybe.
Naomh Gall to win by 2 points tomorrow. the boys are well fired up for it
the bookies have the prices all wrong we'd be favs but not at that price 4/11!!
If St Gall's can catch fire no one will live with them. Will The Loup allow that to happen? Can't see it.
I hope the Belfast men can go on to lift it as they are realistic All-Ireland contenders at full strength.
Quote from: ONeill on November 29, 2009, 12:03:52 AM
I hope the Belfast men can go on to lift it as they are realistic All-Ireland contenders at full strength.
I agree, and no disrepect to the Derry lads. The St Galls lads have the potential to go the whole way, I hope they realise it.
Conditions in Newry will not suit St Galls style of play.
There was a lot of rain earlier today and very strong winds at present.
Certainly won't help them in any way Cross but i still think they should have enough to see them through by 2 -3 points. If they get quality ball into their forwards i thinks St Gall's have it in the bag.
Is the game on tg4?
no, ballygunner v newtownshandru, live, followed by deferred coverage of charlestown v corofin
anyone got a radio link for the ulster final?
Quote from: An Laoch on November 29, 2009, 01:34:13 PM
no, ballygunner v newtownshandru, live, followed by deferred coverage of charlestown v corofin
anyone got a radio link for the ulster final?
what the f**k. being denied the ulster final to watch that shite? i turned it on there and some hoor got bate round the head
any radio links?
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on November 29, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
any radio links?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8382973.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8382973.stm)
Quote from: Square Ball on November 29, 2009, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on November 29, 2009, 02:36:54 PM
any radio links?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8382973.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8382973.stm)
UK only.
That boy Canavan hasn't a clue, he said the teams are level here 4-3 :D :D :D priceless
Keep the score updates coming lads
8-4 Ht to St Gall's
10-4
12-4 think it's game over
Gall's 15- loup 5
16-5 St Gall's Ulster champs well done
St Galls are some outfit, they have a forward line any intercounty team would be proud off.
Quote from: Master Yoda on November 19, 2009, 12:16:15 PM
Quote from: ONeill on November 19, 2009, 11:43:04 AM
I cannot see St Gall's losing this. The memories of Clones a few years ago are still there. They're some club at the minute.
St Galls by 8 points.
i hope you didn't have money on this... ;)
Unlucky Loup, you had an excellent season!
Well done to Galls, a serious outift. Seems like they kept up their form from our game, ruthless attacking, that's a couple of serious scores to be putting up in November. Full steam ahead for the All-Ireland now, can't see anyone stopping them if they keep it up.
Nice win in the bookies too, lumped on Galls -3 at 11/8, there was serious money to be had there! ;D
Well done St Galls. Back at the top.
Quote from: Schkite on November 29, 2009, 04:49:43 PM
Well done to Galls, a serious outift. Seems like they kept up their form from our game, ruthless attacking, that's a couple of serious scores to be putting up in November. Full steam ahead for the All-Ireland now, can't see anyone stopping them if they keep it up.
Nice win in the bookies too, lumped on Galls -3 at 11/8, there was serious money to be had there! ;D
corofin racked up a fairly handy score too and portlaoise will be hard to work with - still though, i fancy galls to play portlaoise in an attacking football feast on paddy's day.
Will be interesting to see how sharp the teams are in February, it isn't automatic that any of the clubs will carry their November form into February.
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
aye, good to see the galls boys and supporters have lost none of the arrogance that so endears them to oppostion fans (and neutrals).
So bogball what do you suggest the st galls player should have done when then loup player tried to do him should he a) lie down and roll around like an inter county player or two we could mention, B) punch the loup player and get himself sent off and suspended for the semi or C) take the challenge like a man and laugh at the opposition player who tried to do him but couldnt?
Pretty impressed by St Gall's today. Have to admit I was surprised by the winning margin. Thought that Loup would have made a real fight of it. St Galls went in at half time with a four point cushion. Despite the cushion I still considered that the game was far from over. I felt Loup were still in contention courtesy of a John Brennan half time team talk and a slightly favourable wind in the second half.
But Loup came out and scored a solitary point the whole second half.
I know Loup had a spot of bad luck and were very unlucky not to get a goal but there's no doubt that St Gall's were the hungrier and fitter side.
With players of the calibre of Karl Stewart and Sean Burns coming off the bench it is hard not to admire the strength and depth of St Gall's.
How many other Antrim club players do you think would get on the St Gall's team ?
I'd have 6 non-St Gall's players on my Antrim club select team:
1. P Graham
2. C Brady
3. A McClean
4. K O'Boyle
5. T Scullion
6. J Crozier
7. S Kelly
8. M McCann (Capt)
9. A Gallagher
10. Kieran McGourty
11. Kevin McGourty
12. T McCann
13. CJ McGourty
14. R Gallagher
15. K Niblock
Was in Newry... also thought the loup would do better. St Galls were impressive alrite but was very boring afternoon. Heard the St Galls, supporters chanting He-lay! He-aly!! for their number six Anthony Healy...kind of funny. Seen the GPA's apologist Paudraig Duffy there too... was tempted to ask him about commitment of club players in November... didn't bother. That's it... zzz
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on November 29, 2009, 08:12:31 PM
Pretty impressed by St Gall's today. Have to admit I was surprised by the winning margin. Thought that Loup would have made a real fight of it. St Galls went in at half time with a four point cushion. Despite the cushion I still considered that the game was far from over. I felt Loup were still in contention courtesy of a John Brennan half time team talk and a slightly favourable wind in the second half.
But Loup came out and scored a solitary point the whole second half.
I know Loup had a spot of bad luck and were very unlucky not to get a goal but there's no doubt that St Gall's were the hungrier and fitter side.
With players of the calibre of Karl Stewart and Sean Burns coming off the bench it is hard not to admire the strength and depth of St Gall's.
How many other Antrim club players do you think would get on the St Gall's team ?
I'd have 6 non-St Gall's players on my Antrim club select team:
1. P Graham
2. C Brady
3. A McClean
4. K O'Boyle
5. T Scullion
6. J Crozier
7. S Kelly
8. M McCann (Capt)
9. A Gallagher
10. Kieran McGourty
11. Kevin McGourty
12. T McCann
13. CJ McGourty
14. R Gallagher
15. K Niblock
No Terry O'Neill, no James Loughrey?
Kevin O'Boyle is too light for top, top level All Ireland winning teams, which is what we should aspire too as there are no footballers out there better than the Galls boys
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 08:34:22 PM
Quote from: Atticus_Finch on November 29, 2009, 08:12:31 PM
Pretty impressed by St Gall's today. Have to admit I was surprised by the winning margin. Thought that Loup would have made a real fight of it. St Galls went in at half time with a four point cushion. Despite the cushion I still considered that the game was far from over. I felt Loup were still in contention courtesy of a John Brennan half time team talk and a slightly favourable wind in the second half.
But Loup came out and scored a solitary point the whole second half.
I know Loup had a spot of bad luck and were very unlucky not to get a goal but there's no doubt that St Gall's were the hungrier and fitter side.
With players of the calibre of Karl Stewart and Sean Burns coming off the bench it is hard not to admire the strength and depth of St Gall's.
How many other Antrim club players do you think would get on the St Gall's team ?
I'd have 6 non-St Gall's players on my Antrim club select team:
1. P Graham
2. C Brady
3. A McClean
4. K O'Boyle
5. T Scullion
6. J Crozier
7. S Kelly
8. M McCann (Capt)
9. A Gallagher
10. Kieran McGourty
11. Kevin McGourty
12. T McCann
13. CJ McGourty
14. R Gallagher
15. K Niblock
No Terry O'Neill, no James Loughrey?
Kevin O'Boyle is too light for top, top level All Ireland winning teams, which is what we should aspire too as there are no footballers out there better than the Galls boys
No disrespect but don't be getting carried away talking about all irelands etc, Antrim are a long way away from that level. St Galls should be certs for the all Ireland now as long as they don't believe their own hype!! Wasn't at the match but listened to it and martin mchugh was raving about anto healy.. Well done to them!!
Just watched some of the interviews via the bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/default.stm
It's unbelievable!!
Agreed with the talk about all irelands. Backing up last years championship run and consolidating - if not gaining promotion - should be our aims.
Loughrey would be in the HB line alright. Scullion was good this year but can be a bit of a headless chicken at times too.
Great win by st galls. Rory Gallagher has added something to the forward line they didn't have before and needed. Corofin looked good too though. Far from a foregone conclusion that they'll win the AI. Having Burns and Karl Stewart on the bench is impressive. Good to see Burke playing well too. If he keeps that up maybe he can replace McKeever next year in midfield for Antrim.
great game don't know why you found this afternoon boring Fox. St Galls showed a serious level of fitness and ability. i thought after 10 minutes Loups main players were done. while McFlynn tried hard, McBride could not keep up to the pace of midfield and was over run. these guys have given Loup decades of service and owe them nothing.
As for the arrogance. didn't see it out there today, very contolled and got on with the job.
major factor i believe was the hurt of being beaten in 2003. does not take much to get a team motivated to play an Ulster final but that must have been a major thing.
Was very one sided which made it boring. No doubt St Galls were impressive but as a neutral was hoping for some excitement.
Granted, but i'd made a day of it, was down for first game, plenty of excitement for it, and was good to see an Antrim team be far superior than the Derry Champions. it just doesn't happen.
minder has already said you cant always bring that form into Feb. past demons will maybe spur these lads on
I thought St Galls where outstanding. They are a brilliant club side. They have class from one to 15 and great subs to call on. The two Kellys, McClean and Brady where impressive at the back and are all very clean accomplished defenders. Gallagher and Burke dominated midfield while CJ, Gallagher and Kevin Niblock lead the Loup defence on a merry dance. But the man for me was Kevin McGourty. He was everywhere and competes for everything and works so hard. I think he is an outstanding footballer and has proved this with St Galls and Queens over the years and for Antrim when he lined out. If this man, CJ and Sean Kelly gave the full committment and went back to the county then Antrim could build severly on what they achieved this year.
I think this would be a formidable saffron side. 1. John Finucine 2. Colin Brady 3. Andrew McClean 4. James Loughery 5. Tony Scullion 6. Justin Crozier 7. Sean Kelly 8. Aodhan Gallagher 9. Sean Burke 10. Kevin Niblock 11. Kevin McGourty 12. Tomas McCann 13. CJ McGourty 14. Michael McCann 15. Paddy Cunningham.
Well done St Gall's. A class side - the best Antrim have produced on the provincial stage. 2010 is a biggie now. They need to cement their legacy.
Add to that the hurlers. Some club.
I was chatting to Paddy Cunningham today. Just went up and said, 'hello Paddy I'm the Fox' and stuff. Nice young fellow. what club is he?
Quote from: longrunsthefox on November 29, 2009, 10:27:47 PM
I was chatting to Paddy Cunningham today. Just went up and said, 'hello Paddy I'm the Fox' and stuff. Nice young fellow. what club is he?
Lambh Dearg in Hannahstown.
Quote from: longrunsthefox on November 29, 2009, 10:27:47 PM
I was chatting to Paddy Cunningham today. Just went up and said, 'hello Paddy I'm the Fox' and stuff. Nice young fellow. what club is he?
away on with your fecking ego
It was good to see st galls do well. It did hurt a wee bit to see the like of gallagher do well and him from Fermanagh. If we notice crossmaglen they are from there. I have suffered myself at the hand of the Galls lifting players from our club but maybe thats the way. Well done anyway and St Teresas which is the real story. They struggled hard to stay afloat on the Glen Road. Well done to St Teresas.
No real surprise in the result, but it should be said (without being either patronising or condescending, although it would be funny if I was being either or both) that Loup reaching the Ulster final was a greater achievement than St. Gall's winning it. St. Gall's were superior in almost every position with really only nos. 6 and 15 mounting any sort of resistance for Loup.
While I would question the involvement of both Fermanagh Gallaghers. I have to say it was a treat to watch the Rory boy. You had to have sympathy with the Loup full back, the way both teams were lining out it meant both full back lines could get destroyed - even McClean who is an infintely better footballer than O'Kane struggled early on against Young who is an infintely weaker player than Gallagher.
Nine different scorers shows the depth of talent in the St Gall's team and the fact that Loup didn't get a single point from play is indicative of their defensive strengths. the younger Kelly is an improvement over Kennedy, although the keeper looked dodgy under the high ball.
The sickness bug in the St Gall's camp was genuine (one of their starting fifteen was off work from our place with the diarrhoea for a couple of days at the tail end of the week) - it may have affected them a bit, but they were always going to be far too strong.
On a sort of personal note, it was good to see fourteen of our past (and current) pupils involved in the two games in Newry yesterday.
Other general observations.
The traffic in Newry was surprisingly easy to negotiate. Thanks 5 Sams.
Pairc Esler was a decent venue.
The programme was crap - a whole page on the three referees, yet all we know about the players is their names. Hate that crap.
Yesterday was cold, although both teams showed admirable toughness in tight fitting short sleeved shirts.
Amhran na bhFiann gets slower every time I hear it.
Loup's amateur psychology was fairly lame (not coming out at the correct time, ensuring that St. Gall's were on the pitch to hear the 'massive' lough shore roar).
Brennan's not wise.
Aodhan Gallagher was a deserving man of the match, although reasonable cases could have been made for about eight of them.
There is some number of gabshites go to these games. We had the misfortune to be sitting in front of a Loup boyo who slated his team and management from the first whistle to the last.
Pat McEnaney wasn't fooled a second time by Johnny McBride.
Pat McEnaney is turning / has long since turned into a sort of refereeing parody. A bit like an Alan Partridge / David Brent style figure.
St. Gall's won't be far away, but there are a couple of areas in which they could still improve.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2009, 08:37:16 AMWhile I would question the involvement of both Fermanagh Gallaghers. I have to say it was a treat to watch the Rory boy. You had to have sympathy with the Loup full back, the way both teams were lining out it meant both full back lines could get destroyed - even McClean who is an infintely better footballer than O'Kane struggled early on against Young who is an infintely weaker player than Gallagher.
Sam, very surprised, nay, disapointed, twice in the one sentence.
Quote from: Bogball XV on November 30, 2009, 08:49:02 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2009, 08:37:16 AMWhile I would question the involvement of both Fermanagh Gallaghers. I have to say it was a treat to watch the Rory boy. You had to have sympathy with the Loup full back, the way both teams were lining out it meant both full back lines could get destroyed - even McClean who is an infintely better footballer than O'Kane struggled early on against Young who is an infintely weaker player than Gallagher.
Sam, very surprised, nay, disapointed, twice in the one sentence.
Equally disappointed here. With both of us.
And you quoted it, you ballix.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2009, 08:37:16 AM
Pat McEnaney wasn't fooled a second time by Johnny McBride.
Pat McEnaney is turning / has long since turned into a sort of refereeing parody. A bit like an Alan Partridge / David Brent style figure.
St. Gall's won't be far away, but there are a couple of areas in which they could still improve.
McEnaney is getting worse the more I see him. I thought he was poor yesterday getting a lot of very basic decisions wrong. He wrongly called McBride for pulling his man in by the arm, he must have been reading the papers. How he didnt give St Galls a penalty is a mystery.
Hopefully St Galls can go all the way, would be good for Antrim and Fermanagh.
Quote from: Man Marker on November 30, 2009, 09:35:54 AM
When was the last time a Derry club side took a beating like that in Ulster club. Can anyone remember
Cross stuffed Bellaghy in Clones, not sure if it was a semi final or a final. Both sides behaved very badly that day.
Disappointing end to the season for the neutral - Loup just didn't turn up. I thought that we'd have seen a more aggressive approach from the Loup -
But hats off to St Galls who were simply devestating.
Having survived a scare in Cavan and a wee bit of a scare in Casement against Pearse Ogs, they went on to almost humiliate both Clontibret and Loup. I haven't seen many victories as facile as this one was so you'd have to reasonably conclude that this Galls team are well equipped to possibly go the whole road.
Well done to them. Looking forward to their semi final - who do they play ?
Quote from: Man Marker on November 30, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
I would be an avid follower of Ulster club football over the past 20 years or so. This was the reason why i asked the question, I couldn't remember the last time a Derry team took a beating like that. Cross have never stuffed Bellaghy. If my wee brown book is correct, Bellaghy and Cross have played 4 times with each winning two games. Significantly Cross defeated bellaghy in 2 finals, one after a replay in 98 I believe, and the other in 96 I think by 2 points. I honestly cannot think of any derry club team taking abeating like that in the Ulster Club. Anyone?
Enniskillen beat Bellaghy 12 points to 6 points in 2001 with bellaghy getting two very late points.
Not sure of the year though. think it was 01
A great result for St Gall's but as someone pointed out Autumn form does not always translate to winning the AI. I think it really is there for them this year. The team seems well balanced with a great spread of quality footballers. The likes of CJ are starting to mature as players to compliment their obvious talent. I have seen what is left and there is nothing that would sacre me from a St gall's perspective.
The one concern I would have for them is that they get a little caught up in the whole thing and lose their focus. They still need to play football. The only thing is they are playing good fottball and will be very hard to beat.
Quote from: FermGael on November 30, 2009, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on November 30, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
I would be an avid follower of Ulster club football over the past 20 years or so. This was the reason why i asked the question, I couldn't remember the last time a Derry team took a beating like that. Cross have never stuffed Bellaghy. If my wee brown book is correct, Bellaghy and Cross have played 4 times with each winning two games. Significantly Cross defeated bellaghy in 2 finals, one after a replay in 98 I believe, and the other in 96 I think by 2 points. I honestly cannot think of any derry club team taking abeating like that in the Ulster Club. Anyone?
Enniskillen beat Bellaghy 12 points to 6 points in 2001 with bellaghy getting two very late points.
Not sure of the year though. think it was 01
I think I remember that as well. Did Bellaghy not get a few red cards also, ending the game as something resembling a disorganised rabble?
Fair play to Loup for keeping their discipline despite getting a bit of a tanking.
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
Either that or the moment Karl came on. His man started jabbing him in the back as soon as Karl ran over to him. Ginge jumped round and made as if he was going to dig him and your man shit a brick. Really great performance by St. Gall's, although I was disappointed to see them starting to mess around towards he end. As someone said earlier, Niblock was absolutely awesome, even though defenders tried to wipe him our on several occasions. Saw him after the match and he had a black eye the size of an apple. Although Aidso won MOTM, I think Sean Burke should get a lot of praise as well- best performance I've seen from him at senior.
Nothing less than the All-Ireland will do now. I remember being in the club the night of the Salthill match and Gribbies was crying into a pint and wondering how on earth he'd ever get to play in Croke Park again. Well, they're just one game away from it now. Shows the belief is finally there in the squad that they deserve to be ranked up with the best teams in the country.
Will the bookies have them favourites?
Quote from: Olly on November 30, 2009, 12:51:05 AM
It was good to see st galls do well. It did hurt a wee bit to see the like of gallagher do well and him from Fermanagh. If we notice crossmaglen they are from there. I have suffered myself at the hand of the Galls lifting players from our club but maybe thats the way. Well done anyway and St Teresas which is the real story. They struggled hard to stay afloat on the Glen Road. Well done to St Teresas.
Joe Brolly's from South Belfast is he?
St. Gall's gave Glenullin a bit of a tanking a few years ago only winning by 4 points but I remember them being comfortable throughout and hitting 20 odd wides. I wouldnt' blame Glenullin for that they hadn't won Derry in a while and St. Gall's are a quality team.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 30, 2009, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on November 30, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
I would be an avid follower of Ulster club football over the past 20 years or so. This was the reason why i asked the question, I couldn't remember the last time a Derry team took a beating like that. Cross have never stuffed Bellaghy. If my wee brown book is correct, Bellaghy and Cross have played 4 times with each winning two games. Significantly Cross defeated bellaghy in 2 finals, one after a replay in 98 I believe, and the other in 96 I think by 2 points. I honestly cannot think of any derry club team taking abeating like that in the Ulster Club. Anyone?
Enniskillen beat Bellaghy 12 points to 6 points in 2001 with bellaghy getting two very late points.
Not sure of the year though. think it was 01
I think I remember that as well. Did Bellaghy not get a few red cards also, ending the game as something resembling a disorganised rabble?
Fair play to Loup for keeping their discipline despite getting a bit of a tanking.
It wasn't 2001 though. Ballinderry won derry & went on to win the all ireland in 2002. Think Bellaghy won derry in 1998, 1999 & 2000.
congrats to st galls, at least pearse ogs pushed them hard and helped them raise the bar. good luck in the semi-final
Quote from: saffron sam2 on November 30, 2009, 12:23:58 PM
Quote from: FermGael on November 30, 2009, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: Man Marker on November 30, 2009, 09:55:26 AM
I would be an avid follower of Ulster club football over the past 20 years or so. This was the reason why i asked the question, I couldn't remember the last time a Derry team took a beating like that. Cross have never stuffed Bellaghy. If my wee brown book is correct, Bellaghy and Cross have played 4 times with each winning two games. Significantly Cross defeated bellaghy in 2 finals, one after a replay in 98 I believe, and the other in 96 I think by 2 points. I honestly cannot think of any derry club team taking abeating like that in the Ulster Club. Anyone?
Enniskillen beat Bellaghy 12 points to 6 points in 2001 with bellaghy getting two very late points.
Not sure of the year though. think it was 01
I think I remember that as well. Did Bellaghy not get a few red cards also, ending the game as something resembling a disorganised rabble?
Fair play to Loup for keeping their discipline despite getting a bit of a tanking.
I think that was 99. Aye, we were very undisciplined that day and a few of our boys lost the run of themselves.
Pat McEnaney's call on Johnny McBride was the bet bit of refereeing i've seen in a while --granted it did come after Brolly had stated that McBride was the only man superior to him in grabbing a man's arm in and dragging him down to get a free--this is exactly what McBride did--he grabbed Gribbies arm in and dragged him down --but the ejit did it clean in front of McEnaney.
The difference in McBride and Gallagher, Kelly, Burke etc is clear, if any of those Galls boys were in a tight spot they would dig their fresh, fit legs in and drive out of that spot while McBride just looks to grab hold of the nearest opponent and 'buy' a free, boring spectators in the process "oh, isnt McBride great, buying frees and dragging his team to one point victories" no he's not, he's boring. What neutral spectator wants to watch that sort of slow, boring, win at all costs shite (unless it was Antrim winning an All Ireland that boring way, i'd take that!). Imagine paying a tenner in to watch McBride slow games down and put you to sleep. McBride didnt try that trick again and it clearly curtailed his game as he overcarried a number of times when surrounded by blue shirts, he tried to play honest football rather than doing his usual and as a result wasnt good enough and overcarried. McBride is a bully, the photo of him dropping his knees on the back of a Derrygonnelly man thats been in the paper hows that. After Gallagher burried McAlynn, McBride came over pointing at Gallagher, but he wouldnt go near him as he was punctured and out of shape (he's just all talk and dirty slaps and tricks) and Gallagher would have went through him for a shortcut. I'm delighted this type of footballer didnt win. St Galls to a man are hard but fair. God help Fermanagh if McBride is on board to provide his boring, slow the game down, put spectators to sleep, knowledge
St Galls were awesome to watch, playing like a 7 a side team, up and down the pitch, playing with a ferousious intensity from start to finish, it was awesome to watch--defending as hard as you'll see and flying forwards --they really are a team and every one of them should at least be on our county panel--great to see a team play to their potential on the big day
ok....so....guess you dont like Johnny Mc Bride too much. ::)
Quote from: gallsman on November 30, 2009, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
Either that or the moment Karl came on. His man started jabbing him in the back as soon as Karl ran over to him. Ginge jumped round and made as if he was going to dig him and your man shit a brick. Really great performance by St. Gall's, although I was disappointed to see them starting to mess around towards he end. As someone said earlier, Niblock was absolutely awesome, even though defenders tried to wipe him our on several occasions. Saw him after the match and he had a black eye the size of an apple. Although Aidso won MOTM, I think Sean Burke should get a lot of praise as well- best performance I've seen from him at senior.
Nothing less than the All-Ireland will do now. I remember being in the club the night of the Salthill match and Gribbies was crying into a pint and wondering how on earth he'd ever get to play in Croke Park again. Well, they're just one game away from it now. Shows the belief is finally there in the squad that they deserve to be ranked up with the best teams in the country.
Will the bookies have them favourites?
McAlynn was nipping flat out against Kilcoo also and got roasted by a teenager. He is one off those players that needs the top row took out the way he behaves.
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
Pat McEnaney's call on Johnny McBride was the bet bit of refereeing i've seen in a while --granted it did come after Brolly had stated that McBride was the only man superior to him in grabbing a man's arm in and dragging him down to get a free--this is exactly what McBride did--he grabbed Gribbies arm in and dragged him down --but the ejit did it clean in front of McEnaney.
The difference in McBride and Gallagher, Kelly, Burke etc is clear, if any of those Galls boys were in a tight spot they would dig their fresh, fit legs in and drive out of that spot while McBride just looks to grab hold of the nearest opponent and 'buy' a free, boring spectators in the process "oh, isnt McBride great, buying frees and dragging his team to one point victories" no he's not, he's boring. What neutral spectator wants to watch that sort of slow, boring, win at all costs shite (unless it was Antrim winning an All Ireland that boring way, i'd take that!). Imagine paying a tenner in to watch McBride slow games down and put you to sleep. McBride didnt try that trick again and it clearly curtailed his game as he overcarried a number of times when surrounded by blue shirts, he tried to play honest football rather than doing his usual and as a result wasnt good enough and overcarried. McBride is a bully, the photo of him dropping his knees on the back of a Derrygonnelly man thats been in the paper hows that. After Gallagher burried McAlynn, McBride came over pointing at Gallagher, but he wouldnt go near him as he was punctured and out of shape (he's just all talk and dirty slaps and tricks) and Gallagher would have went through him for a shortcut. I'm delighted this type of footballer didnt win. St Galls to a man are hard but fair. God help Fermanagh if McBride is on board to provide his boring, slow the game down, put spectators to sleep, knowledge
St Galls were awesome to watch, playing like a 7 a side team, up and down the pitch, playing with a ferousious intensity from start to finish, it was awesome to watch--defending as hard as you'll see and flying forwards --they really are a team and every one of them should at least be on our county panel--great to see a team play to their potential on the big day
I don't know if your a St Galls man or not, sounds like you are, but it is this sort of stuff that makes neutrals hate a team for one thing or another and why St Galls's arent liked alot. Fair enough they have a good football team, but to come out with a statement like that is a joke. No team has a team of angels. How many of this great St Galls team turned their backs on Antrim when they were in need of them? To come out with a statement like that against Johnny McBride, who has put 20 or so hard years into football and The Loup, is a joke. You wouldn't say it to his face but you can come on here and talk about it. Enjoy your victory and get on with it. God know's what they would be like if they got beat.
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
Pat McEnaney's call on Johnny McBride was the bet bit of refereeing i've seen in a while --granted it did come after Brolly had stated that McBride was the only man superior to him in grabbing a man's arm in and dragging him down to get a free--this is exactly what McBride did--he grabbed Gribbies arm in and dragged him down --but the ejit did it clean in front of McEnaney.
The difference in McBride and Gallagher, Kelly, Burke etc is clear, if any of those Galls boys were in a tight spot they would dig their fresh, fit legs in and drive out of that spot while McBride just looks to grab hold of the nearest opponent and 'buy' a free, boring spectators in the process "oh, isnt McBride great, buying frees and dragging his team to one point victories" no he's not, he's boring. What neutral spectator wants to watch that sort of slow, boring, win at all costs shite (unless it was Antrim winning an All Ireland that boring way, i'd take that!). Imagine paying a tenner in to watch McBride slow games down and put you to sleep. McBride didnt try that trick again and it clearly curtailed his game as he overcarried a number of times when surrounded by blue shirts, he tried to play honest football rather than doing his usual and as a result wasnt good enough and overcarried. McBride is a bully, the photo of him dropping his knees on the back of a Derrygonnelly man thats been in the paper hows that. After Gallagher burried McAlynn, McBride came over pointing at Gallagher, but he wouldnt go near him as he was punctured and out of shape (he's just all talk and dirty slaps and tricks) and Gallagher would have went through him for a shortcut. I'm delighted this type of footballer didnt win. St Galls to a man are hard but fair. God help Fermanagh if McBride is on board to provide his boring, slow the game down, put spectators to sleep, knowledge
St Galls were awesome to watch, playing like a 7 a side team, up and down the pitch, playing with a ferousious intensity from start to finish, it was awesome to watch--defending as hard as you'll see and flying forwards --they really are a team and every one of them should at least be on our county panel--great to see a team play to their potential on the big day
Well said. The reason Loup where in the final was because McBride conned Paudie' w**king' Hughes into numerous calls against Kilcoo in the simi. When big Marty McClean was booked all Johnny done was say to Hughes every time Marty went for a ball that he was on a yellow and for something silly that McAneaney wouldn even blow a free for, Hughes sent Marty off costing us victory. If Pat was refereeing our game with Loup they wouldnt have been there yesterday and i think the hammering they got proved they are an ordinary side. Paudie Hughes will never be forgiven in Kilcoo and i agree with all you say about McBride.
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
Pat McEnaney's call on Johnny McBride was the bet bit of refereeing i've seen in a while --granted it did come after Brolly had stated that McBride was the only man superior to him in grabbing a man's arm in and dragging him down to get a free--this is exactly what McBride did--he grabbed Gribbies arm in and dragged him down --but the ejit did it clean in front of McEnaney.
The difference in McBride and Gallagher, Kelly, Burke etc is clear, if any of those Galls boys were in a tight spot they would dig their fresh, fit legs in and drive out of that spot while McBride just looks to grab hold of the nearest opponent and 'buy' a free, boring spectators in the process "oh, isnt McBride great, buying frees and dragging his team to one point victories" no he's not, he's boring. What neutral spectator wants to watch that sort of slow, boring, win at all costs shite (unless it was Antrim winning an All Ireland that boring way, i'd take that!). Imagine paying a tenner in to watch McBride slow games down and put you to sleep. McBride didnt try that trick again and it clearly curtailed his game as he overcarried a number of times when surrounded by blue shirts, he tried to play honest football rather than doing his usual and as a result wasnt good enough and overcarried. McBride is a bully, the photo of him dropping his knees on the back of a Derrygonnelly man thats been in the paper hows that. After Gallagher burried McAlynn, McBride came over pointing at Gallagher, but he wouldnt go near him as he was punctured and out of shape (he's just all talk and dirty slaps and tricks) and Gallagher would have went through him for a shortcut. I'm delighted this type of footballer didnt win. St Galls to a man are hard but fair. God help Fermanagh if McBride is on board to provide his boring, slow the game down, put spectators to sleep, knowledge
St Galls were awesome to watch, playing like a 7 a side team, up and down the pitch, playing with a ferousious intensity from start to finish, it was awesome to watch--defending as hard as you'll see and flying forwards --they really are a team and every one of them should at least be on our county panel--great to see a team play to their potential on the big day
Well said. The reason Loup where in the final was because McBride conned Paudie' w**king' Hughes into numerous calls against Kilcoo in the simi. When big Marty McClean was booked all Johnny done was say to Hughes every time Marty went for a ball that he was on a yellow and for something silly that McAneaney wouldn even blow a free for, Hughes sent Marty off costing us victory. If Pat was refereeing our game with Loup they wouldnt have been there yesterday and i think the hammering they got proved they are an ordinary side. Paudie Hughes will never be forgiven in Kilcoo and i agree with all you say about McBride.
Another sore loser. It's been a few weeks, get over it.
lads this is all cringeworthy stuff. Mid Down Gael your clutching at straws there whilst giving down folk a bad name. Lose graciously, your club had a fantastic year but dont lose the run of yourself. Paudi Hughes wont lose any sleep over the lack of "forgiveness" Kilcoo shall show to him forever more.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 30, 2009, 08:33:40 PM
lads this is all cringeworthy stuff. Mid Down Gael your clutching at straws there whilst giving down folk a bad name. Lose graciously, your club had a fantastic year but dont lose the run of yourself. Paudi Hughes wont lose any sleep over the lack of "forgiveness" Kilcoo shall show to him forever more.
Oh we are over it but the **** was a disgrace and this is the opinion off many nuetral gaels ive spoke to. If you read previous posts you will see i gave Loup credit and wished them well.
Quote from: Archie Mitchell on November 30, 2009, 08:15:56 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:13:45 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
Pat McEnaney's call on Johnny McBride was the bet bit of refereeing i've seen in a while --granted it did come after Brolly had stated that McBride was the only man superior to him in grabbing a man's arm in and dragging him down to get a free--this is exactly what McBride did--he grabbed Gribbies arm in and dragged him down --but the ejit did it clean in front of McEnaney.
The difference in McBride and Gallagher, Kelly, Burke etc is clear, if any of those Galls boys were in a tight spot they would dig their fresh, fit legs in and drive out of that spot while McBride just looks to grab hold of the nearest opponent and 'buy' a free, boring spectators in the process "oh, isnt McBride great, buying frees and dragging his team to one point victories" no he's not, he's boring. What neutral spectator wants to watch that sort of slow, boring, win at all costs shite (unless it was Antrim winning an All Ireland that boring way, i'd take that!). Imagine paying a tenner in to watch McBride slow games down and put you to sleep. McBride didnt try that trick again and it clearly curtailed his game as he overcarried a number of times when surrounded by blue shirts, he tried to play honest football rather than doing his usual and as a result wasnt good enough and overcarried. McBride is a bully, the photo of him dropping his knees on the back of a Derrygonnelly man thats been in the paper hows that. After Gallagher burried McAlynn, McBride came over pointing at Gallagher, but he wouldnt go near him as he was punctured and out of shape (he's just all talk and dirty slaps and tricks) and Gallagher would have went through him for a shortcut. I'm delighted this type of footballer didnt win. St Galls to a man are hard but fair. God help Fermanagh if McBride is on board to provide his boring, slow the game down, put spectators to sleep, knowledge
St Galls were awesome to watch, playing like a 7 a side team, up and down the pitch, playing with a ferousious intensity from start to finish, it was awesome to watch--defending as hard as you'll see and flying forwards --they really are a team and every one of them should at least be on our county panel--great to see a team play to their potential on the big day
Well said. The reason Loup where in the final was because McBride conned Paudie' w**king' Hughes into numerous calls against Kilcoo in the simi. When big Marty McClean was booked all Johnny done was say to Hughes every time Marty went for a ball that he was on a yellow and for something silly that McAneaney wouldn even blow a free for, Hughes sent Marty off costing us victory. If Pat was refereeing our game with Loup they wouldnt have been there yesterday and i think the hammering they got proved they are an ordinary side. Paudie Hughes will never be forgiven in Kilcoo and i agree with all you say about McBride.
Another sore loser. It's been a few weeks, get over it.
I took my beating. Im stating the facts off what happened.
il think you will find if you read your two previous posts they are your OPINION and not FACTS.
I think the only fact that you stated was that Marty Mc Clean was sent off. The rest is pretty much a wee rant.
The reason Loup where in the final was because McBride conned Paudie' w**king' Hughes into numerous calls against Kilcoo in the simi (OPINION).
Hughes sent Marty off costing us victory. (OPINION)
If Pat was refereeing our game with Loup they wouldnt have been there yesterday and i think the hammering they got proved they are an ordinary side.(OPINION)
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:43:40 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 30, 2009, 08:33:40 PM
lads this is all cringeworthy stuff. Mid Down Gael your clutching at straws there whilst giving down folk a bad name. Lose graciously, your club had a fantastic year but dont lose the run of yourself. Paudi Hughes wont lose any sleep over the lack of "forgiveness" Kilcoo shall show to him forever more.
Oh we are over it but the **** was a disgrace and this is the opinion off many nuetral gaels ive spoke to. If you read previous posts you will see i gave Loup credit and wished them well.
So your over it, gave Loup credit and wished them well, then went on a rant about the ref costing use the game and the Loup cheating their way to a victory in agreeing with Gold's post.
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 30, 2009, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
Either that or the moment Karl came on. His man started jabbing him in the back as soon as Karl ran over to him. Ginge jumped round and made as if he was going to dig him and your man shit a brick. Really great performance by St. Gall's, although I was disappointed to see them starting to mess around towards he end. As someone said earlier, Niblock was absolutely awesome, even though defenders tried to wipe him our on several occasions. Saw him after the match and he had a black eye the size of an apple. Although Aidso won MOTM, I think Sean Burke should get a lot of praise as well- best performance I've seen from him at senior.
Nothing less than the All-Ireland will do now. I remember being in the club the night of the Salthill match and Gribbies was crying into a pint and wondering how on earth he'd ever get to play in Croke Park again. Well, they're just one game away from it now. Shows the belief is finally there in the squad that they deserve to be ranked up with the best teams in the country.
Will the bookies have them favourites?
McAlynn was nipping flat out against Kilcoo also and got roasted by a teenager. He is one off those players that needs the top row took out the way he behaves.
Exactly, it was McAlynn who was the one digging at Karl Stewart when he came on. In fairness though McAlynn is only a young naive fella and probably just learnt to try and act the hard man from others (previously mentioned) in his team. The trouble is although he's a big young fella he hasnt properly filled out and for all his wee digs and tryin to 'do' Aidso, he is not strong enough (yet) to properly do that carry on.
Re McBride--i meant it and players of his ilk --it just genuinely is so boring to watch from a neutral perspective. These are our games and we need to showcase them at their best. I undertand if its your own club/ county you'd be happy just to win, no matter how you do --but from a neutral point of view seeing old (warhorses) resorting to dragging down opponents (cheating) to win and slowing down a game is terrible to watch. I didnt put £20 in the tank to drive to Newry to pay a tenner to watch that --i was delighted with McEnaney's call--someone before said it was a wrong call --it wasnt--he was facing me in the middle of the field--he was actually well past Gribbies and should have pushed on but Mc Bride waited for him and put his arm back to grab Gribbies--was very obvious--he didnt even do it on McEnaney's blind side--i understand you have to play to your strengths--in a way its commendable that a man like McBride--with little zip left in his legs at this stage of his career could drag his team to an Ulster Final, no matter what means he uses --but its great when teams play to their strengths and when those strengths are so good to watch, in fast flowing skilful, football and use of the hand (as Aidso did flicking the ball over a mans head into a teamates path rather than catching the ball and getting hit).
I've no vendetta against McBride --i just call things as i see them
A glenullin man i was talking to claimed that galls played with 8 men for a while in last year's all ireland sevens final, he also said that galls were a little bit cynical in their tackling every time the bradley's got the ball. I'm sure of course that they've now moved on and would never indulge in such tactics again, but last year wasn't that long ago that you'd have forgotten it completely.
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on November 30, 2009, 08:51:24 PM
il think you will find if you read your two previous posts they are your OPINION and not FACTS.
I think the only fact that you stated was that Marty Mc Clean was sent off. The rest is pretty much a wee rant.
The reason Loup where in the final was because McBride conned Paudie' w**king' Hughes into numerous calls against Kilcoo in the simi (OPINION).
Hughes sent Marty off costing us victory. (OPINION)
If Pat was refereeing our game with Loup they wouldnt have been there yesterday and i think the hammering they got proved they are an ordinary side.(OPINION)
Yeah opinions that many neutral gaels who where at the match agreed with. And a fact that McBride talked to the referee and had an influence on getting big marty sent off is fact. I was close enough to see it. All i am saying is that with a better referee things likely would have been different. Look i can take a beating but all any team asks for is consistency in refereeing and on that day we didnt get that as all the media highlighted. We had a great year and we will respect the Loup and always remember the great game we where involved in with them. if it was your club that where on the wrong side off the decisions off Hughes on that day you would be sore.
if your granny had balls shed be your granda.
i just dont think that your appeals hold much weight mainly due to the way you air your grievances.
Quote from: Gold on November 30, 2009, 08:53:04 PM
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on November 30, 2009, 08:05:15 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 30, 2009, 12:24:32 PM
Quote from: Gold on November 29, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Awesome peformance by St Galls today, delighted they played to their potential. As said before they've always had the skills but now the majority of the lads are peaking physically and they dont look like they can be stopped.
They tanked Loup who were beaten by a far superior team, both physically and skills wise.
The whole team were great and Niblock in particular won a sight of ball--he was flying and so powerful he couldnt be stopped all day, some change from his performance at the same ground v Cross 2 years ago, he's come on bucketloads since then.
Best bit of the game was when Aidso did as he did in the semi v Clontibret --Aidso hand passed the ball over Aidan McAlynn along the sideline with about 5 mins to go --McAlynn then went to 'do' Aidso as he was left open after he played the ball, but Aidso just quickly tightened himself in and buried McAlynn onto his arse. He then stood over McAlynn and looked down at him, McAlynn got up and hit Aidso a crap punch the stomach--Aidso just laughed at him and shook his head. Good moment
Either that or the moment Karl came on. His man started jabbing him in the back as soon as Karl ran over to him. Ginge jumped round and made as if he was going to dig him and your man shit a brick. Really great performance by St. Gall's, although I was disappointed to see them starting to mess around towards he end. As someone said earlier, Niblock was absolutely awesome, even though defenders tried to wipe him our on several occasions. Saw him after the match and he had a black eye the size of an apple. Although Aidso won MOTM, I think Sean Burke should get a lot of praise as well- best performance I've seen from him at senior.
Nothing less than the All-Ireland will do now. I remember being in the club the night of the Salthill match and Gribbies was crying into a pint and wondering how on earth he'd ever get to play in Croke Park again. Well, they're just one game away from it now. Shows the belief is finally there in the squad that they deserve to be ranked up with the best teams in the country.
Will the bookies have them favourites?
McAlynn was nipping flat out against Kilcoo also and got roasted by a teenager. He is one off those players that needs the top row took out the way he behaves.
Exactly, it was McAlynn who was the one digging at Karl Stewart when he came on. In fairness though McAlynn is only a young naive fella and probably just learnt to try and act the hard man from others (previously mentioned) in his team. The trouble is although he's a big young fella he hasnt properly filled out and for all his wee digs and tryin to 'do' Aidso, he is not strong enough (yet) to properly do that carry on.
Re McBride--i meant it and players of his ilk --it just genuinely is so boring to watch from a neutral perspective. These are our games and we need to showcase them at their best. I undertand if its your own club/ county you'd be happy just to win, no matter how you do --but from a neutral point of view seeing old (warhorses) resorting to dragging down opponents (cheating) to win and slowing down a game is terrible to watch. I didnt put £20 in the tank to drive to Newry to pay a tenner to watch that --i was delighted with McEnaney's call--someone before said it was a wrong call --it wasnt--he was facing me in the middle of the field--he was actually well past Gribbies and should have pushed on but Mc Bride waited for him and put his arm back to grab Gribbies--was very obvious--he didnt even do it on McEnaney's blind side--i understand you have to play to your strengths--in a way its commendable that a man like McBride--with little zip left in his legs at this stage of his career could drag his team to an Ulster Final, no matter what means he uses --but its great when teams play to their strengths and when those strengths are so good to watch, in fast flowing skilful, football and use of the hand (as Aidso did flicking the ball over a mans head into a teamates path rather than catching the ball and getting hit).
I've no vendetta against McBride --i just call things as i see them
Players of Johnny McBrides ilk are few and fair between and its more the pity for Derry football. You have been listening to the likes of O'Neill for to long ganching on here.
Think its unfair to have a pop at McBride lads, he's be great servant to Loup and Derry. Cheat? Na just cuteness maybe.
McBride was struggling from early on and his tactic, well thats what you do and had the Galls lads won while being 'cute' then sure that would be experience
I'd agree. Hardly a county footballer in the country isn't up to the old trick of pulling the tacklers arm in to get a foul. Cross are dab hands at it. It's harsh to pick on McBride for this. He's not an angel but there is much much worse about and he has given the Loup club some service. The amount he has won in the game would indicate that there is a footballer, and a damn good one, in there too.
Middowngael a lot of refs have a lot of bad games. Unfortunately we've all been on the end of them. It's unfortunate but you just have to accept it and get on with it.
Didn't get the gaelic life this week, however lad I went to game informed me that Brolly's article had something in it about Mc Brirde to the extent of the point being mentioned. I wonder if Pat Mc A read it. Did anyone here read the article? Did Brolly angle it in a certain way?I Wouldn't be overly pleased if I was Mc Bride, with Brolly highlighting that on the eve of a major final.
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Ulster Junior Football Club Championship Final Replay:
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Quote from: dundrumite on November 30, 2009, 10:15:55 PM
Didn't get the gaelic life this week, however lad I went to game informed me that Brolly's article had something in it about Mc Brirde to the extent of the point being mentioned. I wonder if Pat Mc A read it. Did anyone here read the article? Did Brolly angle it in a certain way?I Wouldn't be overly pleased if I was Mc Bride, with Brolly highlighting that on the eve of a major final.
Pat McEneaney has been reffing games with Johnnie McBride in them for the guts of 10 years... if he only realised about the arm pulling on the eve of this year's Ulster Final there is something seriously wrong.
Have played against McBride and Brolly both and they are masters of that particular art. Joe apologised to me for it once sayin "sorry about that but I need to substitute the lack of pacce with something". Referees have caught on to it a lot more now so no big deal really.
As for talking about Johnny McBride and players of his "ilk" he has more honours than probably anyone on that St. Gall's team so I'd wind your neck in on that score. He plays on the edge and goes over it sometimes but make no mistake he is a leader and in his prime he could control the tempo of a club game unlike anyone you've ever seen and he did it plenty of times this year also. Yes the Loup are a limited side and anyone in Derry would tell you that but don't be having a go at a great footballer who has put in massive service to Club and County for the best part of 20 years!!!
Quote from: screenexile on December 01, 2009, 01:44:51 AM
Quote from: dundrumite on November 30, 2009, 10:15:55 PM
Didn't get the gaelic life this week, however lad I went to game informed me that Brolly's article had something in it about Mc Brirde to the extent of the point being mentioned. I wonder if Pat Mc A read it. Did anyone here read the article? Did Brolly angle it in a certain way?I Wouldn't be overly pleased if I was Mc Bride, with Brolly highlighting that on the eve of a major final.
Pat McEneaney has been reffing games with Johnnie McBride in them for the guts of 10 years... if he only realised about the arm pulling on the eve of this year's Ulster Final there is something seriously wrong.
Have played against McBride and Brolly both and they are masters of that particular art. Joe apologised to me for it once sayin "sorry about that but I need to substitute the lack of pacce with something". Referees have caught on to it a lot more now so no big deal really.
As for talking about Johnny McBride and players of his "ilk" he has more honours than probably anyone on that St. Gall's team so I'd wind your neck in on that score. He plays on the edge and goes over it sometimes but make no mistake he is a leader and in his prime he could control the tempo of a club game unlike anyone you've ever seen and he did it plenty of times this year also. Yes the Loup are a limited side and anyone in Derry would tell you that but don't be having a go at a great footballer who has put in massive service to Club and County for the best part of 20 years!!!
Off you go then. But I wouldn't be offering any money on it if I was you.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 01, 2009, 01:44:51 AM
Quote from: dundrumite on November 30, 2009, 10:15:55 PM
Didn't get the gaelic life this week, however lad I went to game informed me that Brolly's article had something in it about Mc Brirde to the extent of the point being mentioned. I wonder if Pat Mc A read it. Did anyone here read the article? Did Brolly angle it in a certain way?I Wouldn't be overly pleased if I was Mc Bride, with Brolly highlighting that on the eve of a major final.
Pat McEneaney has been reffing games with Johnnie McBride in them for the guts of 10 years... if he only realised about the arm pulling on the eve of this year's Ulster Final there is something seriously wrong.
Have played against McBride and Brolly both and they are masters of that particular art. Joe apologised to me for it once sayin "sorry about that but I need to substitute the lack of pacce with something". Referees have caught on to it a lot more now so no big deal really.
As for talking about Johnny McBride and players of his "ilk" he has more honours than probably anyone on that St. Gall's team so I'd wind your neck in on that score. He plays on the edge and goes over it sometimes but make no mistake he is a leader and in his prime he could control the tempo of a club game unlike anyone you've ever seen and he did it plenty of times this year also. Yes the Loup are a limited side and anyone in Derry would tell you that but don't be having a go at a great footballer who has put in massive service to Club and County for the best part of 20 years!!!
Off you go then. But I wouldn't be offering any money on it if I was you.
Would he not though? Who would be the most decorated of the Galls players out of interest?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 08:12:27 AM
Quote from: screenexile on December 01, 2009, 01:44:51 AM
Quote from: dundrumite on November 30, 2009, 10:15:55 PM
Didn't get the gaelic life this week, however lad I went to game informed me that Brolly's article had something in it about Mc Brirde to the extent of the point being mentioned. I wonder if Pat Mc A read it. Did anyone here read the article? Did Brolly angle it in a certain way?I Wouldn't be overly pleased if I was Mc Bride, with Brolly highlighting that on the eve of a major final.
Pat McEneaney has been reffing games with Johnnie McBride in them for the guts of 10 years... if he only realised about the arm pulling on the eve of this year's Ulster Final there is something seriously wrong.
Have played against McBride and Brolly both and they are masters of that particular art. Joe apologised to me for it once sayin "sorry about that but I need to substitute the lack of pacce with something". Referees have caught on to it a lot more now so no big deal really.
As for talking about Johnny McBride and players of his "ilk" he has more honours than probably anyone on that St. Gall's team so I'd wind your neck in on that score. He plays on the edge and goes over it sometimes but make no mistake he is a leader and in his prime he could control the tempo of a club game unlike anyone you've ever seen and he did it plenty of times this year also. Yes the Loup are a limited side and anyone in Derry would tell you that but don't be having a go at a great footballer who has put in massive service to Club and County for the best part of 20 years!!!
Off you go then. But I wouldn't be offering any money on it if I was you.
Sam,
I should have included you along with the slaphead.
Johnny has won the following, I could have missed one or two.
An Ulster Minor County Champioship, they where beat in the final of the All Ireland the same year.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs
An Ulster U21 win along with two final defeats.
An All Ireland U21 when he was captain of a great team.
An Ulster Senior along with two losers medals, he scored 1-3 in the final against Armagh and was the best footballer on the park.
Two National Leagues and a losers medal, maybe beat in two finals?
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship.
What St Galls man has won more than that, dont be including Mickey Mouse hurling competitions either.
Showing a lot of runners-up, surely you should stick to the winners side of things. Havin said that not a bad haul ;) thats 11 winners metals, think some st galls men might have more winners medals maybe not as varied. 8 senior championships out of the last 9 and 2 ulsters for starters dont know about u21 or minor but im sure someone will fill us in.
First of all well done to St Galls on Sunday, sometimes you just come up a better team and there is nothing you can do about it. St Galls where pure class all over the pitch and I hope they go on now to win the All Ireland and I think they will if they can keep their feet on the ground.
I think its totally unfair for people to come on here and give the loup players bad manners about the way the play the game, with the players we have had at our disposal over rhe past 8-9 years we have done in my opinion incredibly well and have punched above our weight with the big boys, what people have to understand is that the Loup are not going to beat the best teams in Derry playing nice open football so they play to contain the other team, make it tight and hang in there to the last 10 when more times than not they have more heart for the fight and finish on the right side of the score. Thats the way we play and we make no apologies for it.
Last of all I would like to say anyone who knows Johnny McBride knows what kind of a man he is and its shows such a lack of class to come here and try to blacken a great gaels name. Johnny McBride is the embodiment of everything that the Loup are and will alway be an absolute legend in the Loup, Fermanagh dont know how lucky they are to be getting such a man.
Some awful crap posted in here. First of all, congratulations to St Galls, excellent performance and on that form they'll be hard to stop. Loup just couldn't compete, but I'm sure they'll be happy enough with their year.
For the personal attacks on Johnny McBride, wise up. The man has been a class footballer for about 15 years for club and county, and as someone says you don't win the honours he has by fluke. I'm sure he isn't too worried about what some loser on her says anyway. As for Kilcoo man, get over it ffs, yous were beat fair and square. I was at the game as a neutral, the ref wasn't the reason you lost. Move on, you are making your club look bad on here.
A true sign of a great sportsmanship is to treat defeat and victory with the same respect. All teams have idiots who over the years have spouted off at games and in the pubs and clubs after about such and such. With the advent of the internet discussion boards these idiots have been let loose on the whole world instead of just their own parish. Things happen on the field that effect the game positively and negatively and to pick out players and refs as scapegoats is wrong. There is not one ref that hasn't made a msitake and not one team who hasn't cheated so get off the high horses and enjoy a fine team in St Gall's and hopefully they can bring Andy Merrigan back to Ulster again for the 10th time.
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship Finals:
1970
Bryansford 0-06 Newbridge 0-03
1971
Bellaghy 1-11 Clan na Gael 0-05
1976
Ballerin 2-08 Clan na Gael 2-03
1981/82 (played April 1982)
Ballinderry 2-03 Burren 0-05
1990
Lavey 2-10 Kingscourt 0-04
1992
Lavey 0-10 Burren 0-10
Áth Imirt: Lavey 0-11 Burren 1-05
1994
Bellaghy 0-11 Clontibret O'Neills 0-10
1996
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-07 Bellaghy 1-07 (1st December except it was on a Sunday and not a Tuesday like this year)
Áth Imirt: Crossmaglen Rangers 2-05 Bellaghy 0-08 (8th December - wonder if school got the next day off instead)
1997
Dungiven 0-14 Errigal Ciarán 1-08
1998
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-11 Bellaghy 1-10
2000
Bellaghy 1-10 Errigal Ciarán 1-04
2001
Ballinderry 1-10 Mayobridge 1-07
2003
Loup 1-11 St Galls 1-05
2005
St Galls 1-08 Bellaghy 0-08
2006
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-05 Ballinderry 0-03 (3rd December - something surreal about that day/weather/match in Casey)
2008
Crossmaglen Rangers 1-10 Ballinderry 1-10
Áth Imirt: Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 Ballinderry 1-04
Whilst I am loath to measure someone's 'greatness' based on what they may or may not have won, I would like to distil oakleafgael's list somewhat.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 09:05:19 AM
Sam,
I should have included you along with the slaphead.
Johnny has won the following, I could have missed one or two.
An Ulster Minor County Champioship, they where beat in the final of the All Ireland the same year.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs
An Ulster U21 win along with two final defeats.
An All Ireland U21 when he was captain of a great team.
An Ulster Senior along with two losers medals, he scored 1-3 in the final against Armagh and was the best footballer on the park.
Two National Leagues and a losers medal, maybe beat in two finals?
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship.
What St Galls man has won more than that, dont be including Mickey Mouse hurling competitions either.
What you really meant to say then was:
An Ulster Minor Championship with Derry.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs with Loup.
An Ulster U21 and All Ireland U21 with Derry.
An Ulster Senior Championship with Derry (as an unused sub).
Two National Leagues with Derry (one as an unused sub).
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship with Loup.
A McLarnon and an All-Ireland B with a girls' school.
Quite impressive.
Before we get some of the gallsmen in to list their achievements, are you giving any weightings to these medals?
I'll ask a boy in work at lunchtime and we'll see what he has won.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
Whilst I am loath to measure someone's 'greatness' based on what they may or may not have won, I would like to distil oakleafgael's list somewhat.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 09:05:19 AM
Sam,
I should have included you along with the slaphead.
Johnny has won the following, I could have missed one or two.
An Ulster Minor County Champioship, they where beat in the final of the All Ireland the same year.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs
An Ulster U21 win along with two final defeats.
An All Ireland U21 when he was captain of a great team.
An Ulster Senior along with two losers medals, he scored 1-3 in the final against Armagh and was the best footballer on the park.
Two National Leagues and a losers medal, maybe beat in two finals?
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship.
What St Galls man has won more than that, dont be including Mickey Mouse hurling competitions either.
What you really meant to say then was:
An Ulster Minor Championship with Derry.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs with Loup.
An Ulster U21 and All Ireland U21 with Derry.
An Ulster Senior Championship with Derry (as an unused sub).
Two National Leagues with Derry (one as an unused sub).
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship with Loup.
A McLarnon and an All-Ireland B with a girls' school.
Quite impressive.
Before we get some of the gallsmen in to list their achievements, are you giving any weightings to these medals?
I'll ask a boy in work at lunchtime and we'll see what he has won.
Her'll be light in the county department!
Her'll be light alright, but, as Sunday demonstrated, that is merely an accident of birth and not a reflection on his ability.
Chances are though that he's only an Ulster minor, Ulster and All-Ireland under-21 and a National Football League medal (won by breaking sweat) shy of Mr McBride. The under-21 competition is largely an irrelevance, few counties take it seriously.
He may out do him on all most other fronts though.
Again, neither list will be an indicator of greatness.
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on December 01, 2009, 10:50:29 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 10:43:01 AM
Whilst I am loath to measure someone's 'greatness' based on what they may or may not have won, I would like to distil oakleafgael's list somewhat.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 09:05:19 AM
Sam,
I should have included you along with the slaphead.
Johnny has won the following, I could have missed one or two.
An Ulster Minor County Champioship, they where beat in the final of the All Ireland the same year.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs
An Ulster U21 win along with two final defeats.
An All Ireland U21 when he was captain of a great team.
An Ulster Senior along with two losers medals, he scored 1-3 in the final against Armagh and was the best footballer on the park.
Two National Leagues and a losers medal, maybe beat in two finals?
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship.
What St Galls man has won more than that, dont be including Mickey Mouse hurling competitions either.
What you really meant to say then was:
An Ulster Minor Championship with Derry.
2 Ulster Minor Clubs with Loup.
An Ulster U21 and All Ireland U21 with Derry.
An Ulster Senior Championship with Derry (as an unused sub).
Two National Leagues with Derry (one as an unused sub).
Two Derry Senior Championships and an Ulster Club Championship with Loup.
A McLarnon and an All-Ireland B with a girls' school.
Quite impressive.
Before we get some of the gallsmen in to list their achievements, are you giving any weightings to these medals?
I'll ask a boy in work at lunchtime and we'll see what he has won.
Her'll be light in the county department!
I'd imagine they are all club Honours with 8 Antrim Senior Championships probably 1 or 2 Minors, 2 Ulster Senior and 2 All Ireland 7s?
I wouldn't quite equate an All Ireland 7's title with an U21 title but maybe... at a stretch... you could say it's equal to an All Ireland B Title with "The Best School in South Derry".
In my opinion I would still say that McBride's CV is more impressive than anyone on the Gall's team.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
Her'll be light alright, but, as Sunday demonstrated, that is merely an accident of birth and not a reflection on his ability.
Chances are though that he's only an Ulster minor, Ulster and All-Ireland under-21 and a National Football League medal (won by breaking sweat) shy of Mr McBride. The under-21 competition is largely an irrelevance, few counties take it seriously.
He may out do him on all most other fronts though.
Again, neither list will be an indicator of greatness.
Rubbish
Holy God!!!! I almost forgot McBride's single greatest achievement which NO-ONE in St. Gall's has matched!
Getting Peter Canavan sent off in the All Ireland Quarter Final in 2001 was probably one of my finest memories
Quote from: stephenite on December 01, 2009, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
Her'll be light alright, but, as Sunday demonstrated, that is merely an accident of birth and not a reflection on his ability.
Chances are though that he's only an Ulster minor, Ulster and All-Ireland under-21 and a National Football League medal (won by breaking sweat) shy of Mr McBride. The under-21 competition is largely an irrelevance, few counties take it seriously.
He may out do him on all most other fronts though.
Again, neither list will be an indicator of greatness.
Rubbish
Did you ghost write "Harte: Presence is the only thing"?
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
Quote from: stephenite on December 01, 2009, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 10:57:48 AM
Her'll be light alright, but, as Sunday demonstrated, that is merely an accident of birth and not a reflection on his ability.
Chances are though that he's only an Ulster minor, Ulster and All-Ireland under-21 and a National Football League medal (won by breaking sweat) shy of Mr McBride. The under-21 competition is largely an irrelevance, few counties take it seriously.
He may out do him on all most other fronts though.
Again, neither list will be an indicator of greatness.
Rubbish
Did you ghost write "Harte: Presence is the only thing"?
No, why?
Because of the overuse of the one word 'Rubbish' to refute points made that are at odds with the opinion of Mickey Harte.
Rubbish.
Its up to the man who won them to decide what he holds as most important imo. I would think 90% of people would say it would be anything won with the club. Nice to see you couldnt resist a smart arsed comment about a "girls" school. As a matter of interest what counties dont take the U21 competiton seriously.
This is a pointless debate. I don't even know what Sam is trying to achieve with the "girls school" comment. There s no doubting that both McBride and most of the Galls lads have a lot of honours. Johnny's is a bit more widespread, and includes the coveted All-Ireland, won as captain. But there is no point in comparing the 2.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 11:12:39 AM
Because of the overuse of the one word 'Rubbish' to refute points made that are at odds with the opinion of Mickey Harte.
Rubbish.
Just an economic use of one word to react to a patent piece of, well rubbish. If Antrim don't take the U-21 competition seriously they are in the minority, but it might explain a lot.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Its up to the man who won them to decide what he holds as most important imo. I would think 90% of people would say it would be anything won with the club.
So the club is more important, yet a St. Gall's man with eight senior county and two Ulsters has a less impressive cv than a Loup man with two and one respectively. Strange.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Nice to see you couldnt resist a smart arsed comment about a "girls" school.
That's for my Draperstown friend (who started this shite) as you could possibly have guessed had you read his response to my post.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
As a matter of interest what counties dont take the U21 competiton seriously.
Off the top of your head, name the last three All-Ireland under 21 winners and the provincial winners in each of those years. I know Down lost to Cork this year, but beyond that I have no idea. And if Down were taking it seriously, if it was a serious competition why was their manager not considered for the senior job.
I would suggest that neither your county nor mine take the under-21s seriously. if they did, they would have different managers for each team.
Screenexile. I didn't know that McBride went to St. Mary's Colege Clady.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Its up to the man who won them to decide what he holds as most important imo. I would think 90% of people would say it would be anything won with the club.
So the club is more important, yet a St. Gall's man with eight senior county and two Ulsters has a less impressive cv than a Loup man with two and one respectively. Strange.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Nice to see you couldnt resist a smart arsed comment about a "girls" school.
That's for my Draperstown friend (who started this shite) as you could possibly have guessed had you read his response to my post.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
As a matter of interest what counties dont take the U21 competiton seriously.
Off the top of your head, name the last three All-Ireland under 21 winners and the provincial winners in each of those years. I know Down lost to Cork this year, but beyond that I have no idea. And if Down were taking it seriously, if it was a serious competition why was their manager not considered for the senior job.
I would suggest that neither your county nor mine take the under-21s seriously. if they did, they would have different managers for each team.
I suppose I did start it with a throwaway remark but in fairness there was A LOT of crap talked about McBride which I probably shouldn't have risen to.
People have been saying it depends on where you're born but the Loup is a TINY club in comparison to Gall's and I would hesitantly say that their Club Achievements would rank alongside that of Gall's in the grand scheme of things and add together McBrides achievements with the County then I would say he is a more decorated player.
As for the great St. Pat's v Convent debate... well I should probably just forget about that! The future is looking up for St. Mary's though.
As a former pupil of both colleges, I still reckon if Maghera get the Convent in the knock-out stages they'd beat them.
Quote from: screenexile on December 01, 2009, 11:03:28 AM
I wouldn't quite equate an All Ireland 7's title with an U21 title but maybe... at a stretch... you could say it's equal to an All Ireland B Title with "The Best School in South Derry".
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on December 01, 2009, 11:26:12 AM
Screenexile. I didn't know that McBride went to St. Mary's Colege Clady.
Priceless. Well done tfal. :)
QuoteI'd imagine they are all club Honours with 8 Antrim Senior Championships probably 1 or 2 Minors, 2 Ulster Senior and 2 All Ireland 7s?
I wouldn't quite equate an All Ireland 7's title with an U21 title but maybe... at a stretch... you could say it's equal to an All Ireland B Title with "The Best School in South Derry".
In my opinion I would still say that McBride's CV is more impressive than anyone on the Gall's team.
Agreed.
Quote from: saffron sam2 on December 01, 2009, 11:25:18 AM
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Its up to the man who won them to decide what he holds as most important imo. I would think 90% of people would say it would be anything won with the club.
So the club is more important, yet a St. Gall's man with eight senior county and two Ulsters has a less impressive cv than a Loup man with two and one respectively. Strange.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
Nice to see you couldnt resist a smart arsed comment about a "girls" school.
That's for my Draperstown friend (who started this shite) as you could possibly have guessed had you read his response to my post.
Quote from: oakleafgael on December 01, 2009, 11:13:18 AM
As a matter of interest what counties dont take the U21 competiton seriously.
Off the top of your head, name the last three All-Ireland under 21 winners and the provincial winners in each of those years. I know Down lost to Cork this year, but beyond that I have no idea. And if Down were taking it seriously, if it was a serious competition why was their manager not considered for the senior job.
I would suggest that neither your county nor mine take the under-21s seriously. if they did, they would have different managers for each team.
Straw clutching argument there. How serious Down take the Under 21 comp is nothing to do with the appointment of the senior job what so ever. The fact he previously was an
All Ireland senior winning manager and didn't get the job would dispel that myth. Just because you can't remember the previous winners doesn't mean it is not taken seriously.
the match is over and a new thread should be put up. the Galway champs are no mugs having won the Connacht title two years in a row. while the Mayo champions seemed a poor team it wont go unnoticed that they racked up a good score without some of their main players.
having watched part of the game last night i'd say they are two evenly matched teams and should be a good game.
how the galls lads will do on two fronts is another question. with 8/9 dual players with the fitness and strength, it could be a deciding factor with their game in the hurling, or the dual players may just concentrate on the football? i doubt it though as that would be some achievement to reach two finals at Croke park
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 01, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
Some awful crap posted in here. First of all, congratulations to St Galls, excellent performance and on that form they'll be hard to stop. Loup just couldn't compete, but I'm sure they'll be happy enough with their year.
For the personal attacks on Johnny McBride, wise up. The man has been a class footballer for about 15 years for club and county, and as someone says you don't win the honours he has by fluke. I'm sure he isn't too worried about what some loser on her says anyway. As for Kilcoo man, get over it ffs, yous were beat fair and square. I was at the game as a neutral, the ref wasn't the reason you lost. Move on, you are making your club look bad on here.
I am giving the opinion off Kilcoo people and further afield, We where denied a clear free at the last and lost a man for very little not to mention many other dubious calls. Ive took my beating and wished the Loup all the best for the final. I know if either off the two major decisions ive mentioned where called correctly the result would have been different. Its tough when you loose in a manner like that but i take nothing away from Loup. My gripe is with a Mr Paudie Hughes who is detested even in his own county because he is one off these referees that is out to be the centre off attention. Every local and national paper and Austin OCallaghan on BBC where critical off Hughes over these wrong calls post match including a number off nuetrals and people from the Loup ive spoken to since.
The U21 competition is taken very seriously by counties. The only one of the "big" counties who may, and I say may, take it lightly is Kerry.
My biggest disappointment from an Antrim football perspective over the last few years was the lack of investment in the u21 set-up. They had a team capable of challenging a few years ago and the current crop are nowhere near as good. I would have put that at the feet of Jody Gormley to be honest.
Look at where Cork are now. They've had a lot of success of late in the u21s. There are teams who aren't building on u21 success granted - Mayo, Galway and Down to name but three - however it's been a great building block for a number of teams. Those who take it lightly do so at their peril. The foundations of Tyrones AI success was the u21 team of circa 2000. The successful Armagh team had an ulster u21.
Quote from: Mid Down Gael on December 01, 2009, 06:49:59 PM
Quote from: SambaSaffron on December 01, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
Some awful crap posted in here. First of all, congratulations to St Galls, excellent performance and on that form they'll be hard to stop. Loup just couldn't compete, but I'm sure they'll be happy enough with their year.
For the personal attacks on Johnny McBride, wise up. The man has been a class footballer for about 15 years for club and county, and as someone says you don't win the honours he has by fluke. I'm sure he isn't too worried about what some loser on her says anyway. As for Kilcoo man, get over it ffs, yous were beat fair and square. I was at the game as a neutral, the ref wasn't the reason you lost. Move on, you are making your club look bad on here.
I am giving the opinion off Kilcoo people and further afield, We where denied a clear free at the last and lost a man for very little not to mention many other dubious calls. Ive took my beating and wished the Loup all the best for the final. I know if either off the two major decisions ive mentioned where called correctly the result would have been different. Its tough when you loose in a manner like that but i take nothing away from Loup. My gripe is with a Mr Paudie Hughes who is detested even in his own county because he is one off these referees that is out to be the centre off attention. Every local and national paper and Austin OCallaghan on BBC where critical off Hughes over these wrong calls post match including a number off nuetrals and people from the Loup ive spoken to since.
There's only one thing for it... we'll have to call Sepp Blatter and see can they be put into the All club draw :'( :'(!! So much whining... what team has never had a gripe about at least one game where the referee fucked up. It used to wind me up big time when decisions went against us but you soon learn that in other cases you'll get the rub of the green. Paudie refereed the Armagh final and he sent one of our boys off harshly in the last minute after he skipped through three attempts to floor him. I still don't detest him and I'm from Armagh. Give it a f**king rest
tyrone should win under 21 all ireland this year, watch this space;)
In my opinion has more medals of note than any St. Galls player, but I'd ahve to agree, U21 isn't treated all that seriously in many counties, Derry is normally one of those, although on occasion they have a rattle at it.
Ulster Junior Hurling Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Armagh)Sean Treacys 1-10 Rasharkin Saint Marys(Antrim) 4-13
Quarter Finals:
(Fermanagh)Lisnaskea Emmetts 0-12 Warrenpoint Saint Peters(Down) 0-08
(Monaghan)Carrickmacross Emmetts 1-05 Burt Hibernians(Donegal) 5-22
Rasharkin Saint Marys 1-21 Mullahoran Saint Josephs(Cavan) 0-01
(Tyrone)Naomh Colum Cille 2-12 Na Magha(Derry) 2-05
Semi Finals:
Lisnaskea Emmetts 1-04 Naomh Colm Cille 4-12
Burt Hibernians 1-08 Rasharkin St Marys 1-10
Final:
Rasharkin St Marys 2-14 Naomh Colum Cille 4-10 Tyrone
Ulster Intermediate Hurling Club Championship:
Quarter Finals:
(Fermanagh)Lisbellaw Saint Patricks 1-06 Saint Galls(Antrim) 6-16
(Down)Liatroim Fontenoys 1-16 Castleblayney Faughs(Monaghan) 1-13
Semi Finals:
(Armagh)Middletown Na Fianna 2-13 Liatroim Fontenoys 1-11
(Tyrone)Eoghan Ruadh 1-06 St Galls 5-14
Final:
St Galls 5-11 Middletown Na Fianna 0-12 Antrim
Ulster Senior Hurling Championship Semi Final:
(Derry)Dungiven Kevin Lynch's 2-13 Ballycran St Josephs(Down) 2-16
Final:
(Antrim)Dunloy Cúchullains 2-16 Ballycran St Josephs 2-11 Antrim
Ulster Junior Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Donegal)Moville Bun an Phobail 5-06 Glenn John Martins(Down) 2-05
Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Shane O'Neills 2-12 Seán Dolans(Derry) 0-09
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys 1-09 Monaghan Harps 1-10
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs 0-08 Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) 2-09
(Fermanagh)Belnaleck Art McMurroughs 1-04 Moville Bun an Phobail(Donegal) 1-14
Semi Finals:
Shane O'Neills 0-09 Emyvale 0-12
Moville Bun an Phobail 2-07 St Teresas 2-09
Final:
Emyvale 2-06 St Teresas 1-09
Final Replay:
Emyvale 2-14 St Teresas 1-11 Monaghan
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
(Derry)Ballymaguigan Saint Treas 0-08 Ballymartin Saint Josephs(Down) 0-09
Quarter Finals:
(Armagh)Newtown St Michaels 1-07 Gaeil Fhánada(Donegal) 2-08
(Fermanagh)Kinawley Brian Borus 0-13 Lavey Joe Biggars(Cavan) 0-15
(Down)Ballymartin St Josephs 0-08 Cookstown Father Rocks(Tyrone) 2-09
(Antrim)Ahoghill St Marys 1-09 Monaghan Harps 1-10
Semi Finals:
Gaeil Fhánada 1-08 Lavey Joe Biggars 1-14
Monaghan Harps 1-09 Cookstown Father Rocks 1-11
Final:
Cookstown Father Rocks 0-09 Lavey 1-04 Tyrone
Ulster Senior Football Club Championship:
Preliminary Round:
Cavan Gaels 1-10 Antrim (Saint Galls) 1-12 (After Extra Time)
(Cavan Gaels 1-07 St Galls 1-07 Full Time)
Quarter Finals:
(Derry)Loup St Patricks 1-10 Derrygonnelly Harps(Fermanagh) 1-06
(Down)Kilcoo Owen Roes 0-13 Naomh Adhamhnáin(Donegal) 0-09
(Monaghan)Clontibret O'Neills 0-10 Dromore St Dympnas(Tyrone) 0-08
(Antrim)St Galls 0-10 Pearse Óg(Armagh) 0-08
Semi Finals:
Loup St Patricks 1-12 Kilcoo Owen Roes 1-11
Clontibret O'Neills 0-11 St Galls 2-15
Final:
St Galls 0-16 Loup St Patricks 0-05 Antrim
Drici, any news on the venues for all the Semi finals (particularly Naomh Gall v Tad in the inter. final)?
Quarter Final venues only so far:
All Ireland Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
(Kilkenny)Black and Whites v John Mitchells(maddog) Saturday January 9th Nowlan Park
All Ireland Junior Football Championship Quarter Final:
(Alba)Dunedin Connollys v Emyvale(Monaghan) Sunday January 10th Páirc Esler Newry
All Ireland Senior Football Championship Quarter Final:
Tír Chonaill Gaels v Kilmurry Ibricane(Clare) Sunday January 24th Ruislip
thanks Drici, i know you'll put that info up when ya have it.
Maddog Drici?
Quote from: drici on December 17, 2009, 01:55:50 PM
Quarter Final venues only so far:
All Ireland Junior Hurling Championship Quarter Final:
(Kilkenny)Black and Whites v John Mitchells(maddog) Saturday January 9th Nowlan Park
All Ireland Junior Football Championship Quarter Final:
(Alba)Dunedin Connollys v Emyvale(Monaghan) Sunday January 10th Páirc Esler Newry
Both these games are now postponed.