Is the Indo going after Tyrone GAA?

[Keyser soze]

That list of incidents, with the exception of the one were the man was killed,  could be written about any county in Ireland.

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"Edendork and Moy, who were in the headlines after last weekend's outbreak of indiscipline, have prior history."

This is not factual. Another poorly researched and written article.

[Jinxy]

'In November 2005, not long after Tyrone had won a second All-Ireland in three seasons, a match between Edendork and Moy was abandoned after just 15 minutes. The breaking point was an incident where an umpire became involved in an altercation with one of the Edendork players.

It was expected the clubs would be severely punished. Instead they were fined. Only a few weeks later, another match was abandoned involving Edendork, this time against Eglish in a sudden-death relegation tie which the referee saw fit to terminate halfway through the second half. What message did that convey?'

Is that not true?

[blewuporstuffed]

Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a  decent rap sheet.

[seafoid]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

[Owenmoresider]

Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a  decent rap sheet.

Galway hurling for starters. Seems to be calmer of late though.

[omaghjoe]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness

As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death?....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo

[seafoid]

Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a  decent rap sheet.

Galway hurling for starters. Seems to be calmer of late though.

Tipp hurling as well

[Syferus]

Im sure if you dredged through 40 years of disciplinary incidents from any county you could put together a  decent rap sheet.

Is "attempt a whatabout to distract from the point" the first rule in the Tyrone propaganda ministry's PR handbook or something?

[trailer]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness

As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death?....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo

Tyrone in 1977. I'd say there was very little, if any assistance given to an RUC investigation.
In the South has the Gardai ever been called to a GAA incident/melee/fight etc? Has there ever been a prosecution does anyone know?

The GAA and county boards have a duty of care to players. Fines given to clubs have no effect. The players never have to pay them. A more stringent rulebook with less appeals and loopholes. One appeal and if you fail your suspension is doubled. Would cut out a load of messing. Lots of clubs and counties appeal everything as they have nothing to lose and a high possibility of getting off. This should be a priority for the DG and Croke Park, not some bullshit football rule change. 
It's only a matter of time until a serious incident happens. When you are on a football field you should not be immune from the law of the land or indeed the rules of the game.

[dublin7]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness

As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death?....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo

Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?

In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.

Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.

But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension     

[omaghjoe]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness

As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death?....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo

Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?

In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.

Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.

But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension     

I wasnt having a cheap shot at rugby (unless your talking about egg chasing jibe) I was talking about the fawning by the Indo and RTE to (their perceived) elitism of rugby

IF that was his point he didnt make it very well if at all... he was using a man's death 40 years ago, and targeting it as a particular problem in one particular county, shabby stuff.

He is quite clearly and explicitly targeting Tyrone GAA in particular and callously exploiting a man's death to make his point. He quite clearly gave no consideration of the man's family else in the article.

The incident was first and foremost not about the GAA, Tyrone or the clubs but the the unlawful killing of a man with a family. Using it to make a point about any of the former without properly addressing the latter communicates that he doesn't really give a shit about the human cost of that tragedy.

[JoG2]

Look, ALL counties have this kind of sh1te going on. I was told years ago the Wicklow championship was utter mayhem at times.. Lovely Wicklow, the garden of Ireland ffs. If this column and the swell of pressure on CBs by the masses helps curb this carryon, then great.
Personally I didn't know anyone had died during a melee before ie news to me.
There's collective responsibility needed, CBs to come down hard (rule changes if required)  clubs and players taking their oil, spectators etc not behaving like animals when a fight break outs on the pitch.

[Baile Brigín 2]

That list of incidents, with the exception of the one were the man was killed,  could be written about any county in Ireland.

https://youtu.be/zUoT5AxFpRs

That's quite an exception to be fair

[Jinxy]

The Indo will highlight court material about any « GAA star » from any county. Any kind of skulduggery anywhere is brought to the attention of readers. The idea that Tyrone is singled out is incorrect.

Yes as opposed to the egg chasers they will do so with great glee.
But with Tyrone they do so with a special eagerness

As for the article itself I find it disturbing. Very insensitive to the man's family. A man was killed, no report on the police investigation at the time or inquiry into his death?....just an attempt to link this into other incidents most of which happened decades later.
Pat McCartan I suspect was well aware what the journalist was at when he said this is the first time in 40 years that the press have taken an interest in it.
Disgraceful tabloid journalism but its what we have come to expect as a rule from the Indo

Do you not think he has a point about lack of discipline in the GAA?

In ALL counties when a player is sent off it's the exception rather than the rule for the player/co. board to accept the ban and not look to appeal. Even then the majority of the appeals are based on proceedure rather than the innocence of the individual.

Over the last few weeks we have seen 20 something cards in a Tyrone senior club game, mass brawl in an intermediate game and in the summer the mass brawl with the Tyrone and Armagh U20s.

But sure have a cheap shot at rugby. They at least are clamping down on dangerous tackles to try and make the game safer. In the GAA refs are expected to turn a blind eye to foul play if it means the "star player" might miss a big game for the club/county due to suspension     

I wasnt having a cheap shot at rugby (unless your talking about egg chasing jibe) I was talking about the fawning by the Indo and RTE to (their perceived) elitism of rugby

IF that was his point he didnt make it very well if at all... he was using a man's death 40 years ago, and targeting it as a particular problem in one particular county, shabby stuff.

He is quite clearly and explicitly targeting Tyrone GAA in particular and callously exploiting a man's death to make his point. He quite clearly gave no consideration of the man's family else in the article.

The incident was first and foremost not about the GAA, Tyrone or the clubs but the the unlawful killing of a man with a family. Using it to make a point about any of the former without properly addressing the latter communicates that he doesn't really give a shit about the human cost of that tragedy.

The Tyrone executive released an official statement at the time. "The Tyrone county executive condemns and deplores the unwarranted and unprovoked attack on the minor players and officials at Cookstown on Tuesday, August 2, which resulted in the untimely death of the late Paddy Hughes. The county executive advises all members and officials to do their utmost to ensure that those concerned in this dastardly deed, which brought disgrace and degradation to the GAA and all it stands for, be made amenable for their actions."

Was anyone brought to justice for this man's death?