Down New manager

[Down1234]

This wasn’t started to call out any players in the county as some of you seem to be doing for some reason the problem is with county board and management

No professional enough

Half hearted

There are club teams in the county looked after better than our county set up it’s a topic set up to see how we can think outside the box and not run back to the 91 or 94 era

[Down1234]

This wasn’t started to call out any players in the county as some of you seem to be doing for some reason the problem is with county board and management

Not professional enough

Half hearted

There are club teams in the county looked after better than our county set up it’s a topic set up to see how we can think outside the box and not run back to the 91 or 94

[charlieTully]

Twice too. You talk some garbage when you do actually post. On the other hand wobbler with out doubt the best poster on the board for knowledge of the game. Got it spot on 3 years ago

Be careful wobbler smurf is looking to ride you.

[lfdown2]

Deegan none
McCartan few club championship sigerson
Poacher merit in the teams he has managed
Mulholland 3 division 2 titles intermediate championship ulster final
Pete enough said
Tally all Ireland with Tyrone

List them beside yours

Genuine question; what teams has Poacher managed? And of those what success has been achieved?

[Brick Tamlin]

define success if you will

[lfdown2]

define success if you will

I was interested in this also, I have no particular opinion on the person and am just interested in what he has achieved as a manager.

Imo a manger differs significantly from a coach, as does the skill set required for each.

[downjim]

Success in keeping Ballyholland up, they are now a first div team.
Few z grade schools title.

Seems good with average teams.

[downjim]

We want the swagger back

[Brick Tamlin]

No... ye want more Twitter followers and regular updates and snaps of how jolly the Down players are whilst having a beer.. happy campers. That's where it's at..PR spin and bullshit week in week out. That's what we need. That's what we're lost for as a county. It's not narcissism nor egotistical. It's passion and wearing ones heart on his sleeve.

[Hoes before bros]

define success if you will

Very sensible post

Every name that is throw up someone feels the need to ask "What have they won?" Any manager that has won championships, has won them with a top 3 or 4 side. Down are far from a top 3 or 4 team. Whoever the next Down manager is, he will not win championships with Down. So maybe instead we could ask what have they achieved with an average team? That's were names like (Poacher-Ballyholland/Carlow, Tally-St Mary's, Kennedy-Glenn) start to make sense. Those men definitely have one thing that has been missing from Down, players get behind them and want to play for them

[OgraAnDun]

No... ye want more Twitter followers and regular updates and snaps of how jolly the Down players are whilst having a beer.. happy campers. That's where it's at..PR spin and bullshit week in week out. That's what we need. That's what we're lost for as a county. It's not narcissism nor egotistical. It's passion and wearing ones heart on his sleeve.

Wanting to improve  the county’s shit methods of communication with its members is not a goal that is mutually exclusive with wanting greater degrees of success and a half decent playing style.

[Nanderson]

One thing I like about Poacher is his enthusiasm for the game. He was our clubs senior manager when I was still a minor and had us training with the senior team as and when we could. Really made us feel like adults around the age group when others start pissing about and quitting football. I'm sure hes made plenty of other players feel like this and he'd be a great addition to anyones background team in a county set up.

[Smurfy123]

For what it’s worth
Wee James - Safe pair of hands you know what you are getting from him and they players will like his appointment.
Deegan- Unproven and reports coming out of the under 20s are not good. Players wouldn’t react well to it
Pete- Has he lost his spark a bit. This appointment could be brilliant or car crash stuff. Players wouldn’t react.
Poacher. This ones a big call. You know what you will get from him. Passion drive energy but defensive football. Players would like this appointment
Mulholland- Again safe pair of hands and would be very smart and organised. Plays a defensive brand off football also. Played would react to him


Interesting times ahead for whatever way they go about picking the manager
I think the Down public and supporters are bored with what they had to put up with this 3 years and they need the spark back.

[Brick Tamlin]

Please explain how you know how the players would react to different managers. How do you know the mindset of the players?
That is unless youre actually on the panel itself or have indeed played under each of the people youve mentioned.
If you havent or this isnt the case then id guess youre really just surmising.

baffling

[Smurfy123]

So it’s not hard to understand people’s opinions on managers

You know the way the managers have managed teams about the reaction they are going to get. EB was never going to get a reaction out of these Down players.