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[Shockingly poor how club football is treated within the our County]

No panic on the senior fixtures yet, none at all 😉

Start date is just over 3 weeks away

Shockingly poor how club football is treated within the our County

Shocking in what way? 🤷

Is your answer tongue in cheek?

Derry have 3/4 league games played, Down have certainly 4 played and Armagh will have 3 played - all before Easter.
Don't talk about pre season competitions....most counties have them or the Ulster league as preparation.
Our league is delayed to suit county football which is 2% of the playing population in the county
Now we are told that games on Friday nights are no longer a thing despite the fact they are the one positive to occur in the last number of years at club level

This is a misguided take.

Tyrone league is delayed to suit the clubs, so that they can play the max amount of games with county players.

As far as I know, there'll be a mix of Friday and Sunday games for the first few weeks then they'll revert to Fridays during the summer.

Club league in other ulster counties are a farce compared to the competitive leagues in tyrone.

What do the rules say here?
Can the game officially be awarded to Omagh, or does there have to  be a farcical scenario of Omagh turning up for the "replay" and Maghera not fielding?

"A decision shall be made by the Competitions Control Committee on foot of
the Hearing. The decision shall be notified to both parties.

An Objection or Counter-Objection may only be upheld on the grounds that an Infraction has been proven that renders a Party liable to the Penalty of Forfeiture, with Award of the Game to the opposing Team
or
(ii) That it is proven that a score allowed during the course of the Game was either not recorded or incorrectly recorded by the Referee and that error had affected the result of the Game."

I assume Omagh will have already objected. CCC would recount the scores as allowed in above rule and award the game to CBS.

They played fermanagh last night in garvaghey. Dev squad and some players from in & around the proper squad.

Ulster U20 Group A Round One
Down 0-11 3-15 Tyrone

Defending U20 All-Ireland Champions Tyrone began their Ulster campaign with a strong second half display resulting in a 13-point victory over Down in Burren.
Down were well in the game at the break, with the sides level 0-7 to 1-4, but two more Tyrone goals and 11 points to Downs four was emphatic for Paul Devlin's team.

The hosts came out of the blocks promisingly, with four points on the board before Tyrone got a meaningful touch on the ball.
Eoghan Travers came close to a goal from throw-in but Tyrone netminder Conor McAneaney made the close-range save for a '45 that Travers sent between the sticks.
Meanwhile Down goalkeeper DJ Farrell was spending most of his time in the attack line and it paid off as he hit a two-pointer and a single score to give his side a four-point lead.
Tyrone settled after that and it seemed they had gained control when points from Noah Grimes, Daragh Donaghy and Ruairi McCullagh preceded a goal from Conor O'Neill following a lovely one-two with captain Joey Clarke.
Still, there was no shaking the home side at that stage, as Travers raised an orange flag to stop the rot and with two more scores at either end, the sides were level 0-7 to 1-4 at half-time.

Tyrone senior player Eoin McElholm came on at-half-time and was dominant straight away with a point and four more to follow.
On 35 minutes Clarke once again set up Liam Og Mossey for the second goal that put Tyrone 2-6 to 0-8 to the good and while Down weren't ready to throw in the towel yet, the signs were there.
They almost pulled a maximum back when Callan Morgan dropped a free attempt short and Lorcan Ward rolled the ball inches wide of the empty net but Tyrone went straight down the field and while a Grimes goal was disallowed as a square ball, McElholm put them six in front from the resulting free.
It was plain sailing for the champions after that, with two points and a third goal from McElhattan giving them an unassailable 3-13 to 0-9 lead and while Travers converted a two-point free to put his side into double digits, Tyrone ran out comfortable winners.

Down: DJ Farrell 0-3 (1tp); B Christie, L Vaughan, L Lynch; D Murdock, J McFerran, C Morgan (0-1); D McKernan, L Quinn; E Murray, L Ward, E Travers 0-6 (1′45, 1 tp, 1f, 1tpf); B McEvoy 0-1(1f), C Clerkin, O Murphy.
Subs: O Byrne for Quinn (38), O Byrne for Ward (47), R Magorrian (55), R McEvoy for Travers (58)

Tyrone: C McAneney; S McCaul. B Hughes, C Devlin; C Daly, J Clarke, F Nelis; C Devlin, C O'Neill 1-1; D Donaghy 0-1, C Sheehy, M Quinn 0-2; N Grimes 0-1, R McCullagh 0-2 (1f), L Og Mossey 1-0.
Subs: E McElholm 0-5 (2f, 1tp) for McCullagh (h-t), E Donaghy 0-1 for Sheehey (48), M McIlhatten 1-1 for Donaghy (48), L McCullagh 0-1 for Quinn (50), S McCann for Devlin (58)

Referee: Niall McKenna (Monaghan

Is Caolan Donnelly Fintona injured? Why is Charlie Donnelly not on the panel?

I assume because he doesn't play senior football for trillick? Same as Nathan farry who was a big presence in those minor teams.

Obviously trillick have a lot of talent but I don't think either Charlie or Nathan even came close to coming on as a sub for them in the club championship. You can't expect to make a county u20 team if you can't even get on your own Club side.

Is this a serious post ?
Trillick have 6 senior county panellists,add in Lee Brennan, the second Gray, Daire and Michael Gallagher and there aren't many spots left.
If the two lads in question played for Gortin would you say they were good enough.
Surely lads should be judged on how good they are as opposed to how good their club team is

I'm not judging them based on club. But no doubt a significant factor on getting selected for the u20 panel is experience and performance playing in club league and championship. It doesn't matter whether that is junior, senior or intermediate.

For example, Conall sheehy from cookstown wouldn't have been involved at minor level. But stood out playing for his club last year. The two trillick lads haven't had a chance to show their ability at that club level.

Ulster U20 Group A Round One
Down 0-11 3-15 Tyrone

Defending U20 All-Ireland Champions Tyrone began their Ulster campaign with a strong second half display resulting in a 13-point victory over Down in Burren.
Down were well in the game at the break, with the sides level 0-7 to 1-4, but two more Tyrone goals and 11 points to Downs four was emphatic for Paul Devlin's team.

The hosts came out of the blocks promisingly, with four points on the board before Tyrone got a meaningful touch on the ball.
Eoghan Travers came close to a goal from throw-in but Tyrone netminder Conor McAneaney made the close-range save for a '45 that Travers sent between the sticks.
Meanwhile Down goalkeeper DJ Farrell was spending most of his time in the attack line and it paid off as he hit a two-pointer and a single score to give his side a four-point lead.
Tyrone settled after that and it seemed they had gained control when points from Noah Grimes, Daragh Donaghy and Ruairi McCullagh preceded a goal from Conor O'Neill following a lovely one-two with captain Joey Clarke.
Still, there was no shaking the home side at that stage, as Travers raised an orange flag to stop the rot and with two more scores at either end, the sides were level 0-7 to 1-4 at half-time.

Tyrone senior player Eoin McElholm came on at-half-time and was dominant straight away with a point and four more to follow.
On 35 minutes Clarke once again set up Liam Og Mossey for the second goal that put Tyrone 2-6 to 0-8 to the good and while Down weren't ready to throw in the towel yet, the signs were there.
They almost pulled a maximum back when Callan Morgan dropped a free attempt short and Lorcan Ward rolled the ball inches wide of the empty net but Tyrone went straight down the field and while a Grimes goal was disallowed as a square ball, McElholm put them six in front from the resulting free.
It was plain sailing for the champions after that, with two points and a third goal from McElhattan giving them an unassailable 3-13 to 0-9 lead and while Travers converted a two-point free to put his side into double digits, Tyrone ran out comfortable winners.

Down: DJ Farrell 0-3 (1tp); B Christie, L Vaughan, L Lynch; D Murdock, J McFerran, C Morgan (0-1); D McKernan, L Quinn; E Murray, L Ward, E Travers 0-6 (1′45, 1 tp, 1f, 1tpf); B McEvoy 0-1(1f), C Clerkin, O Murphy.
Subs: O Byrne for Quinn (38), O Byrne for Ward (47), R Magorrian (55), R McEvoy for Travers (58)

Tyrone: C McAneney; S McCaul. B Hughes, C Devlin; C Daly, J Clarke, F Nelis; C Devlin, C O'Neill 1-1; D Donaghy 0-1, C Sheehy, M Quinn 0-2; N Grimes 0-1, R McCullagh 0-2 (1f), L Og Mossey 1-0.
Subs: E McElholm 0-5 (2f, 1tp) for McCullagh (h-t), E Donaghy 0-1 for Sheehey (48), M McIlhatten 1-1 for Donaghy (48), L McCullagh 0-1 for Quinn (50), S McCann for Devlin (58)

Referee: Niall McKenna (Monaghan

Is Caolan Donnelly Fintona injured? Why is Charlie Donnelly not on the panel?

I assume because he doesn't play senior football for trillick? Same as Nathan farry who was a big presence in those minor teams.

Obviously trillick have a lot of talent but I don't think either Charlie or Nathan even came close to coming on as a sub for them in the club championship. You can't expect to make a county u20 team if you can't even get on your own Club side.

Any thoughts on the proposed league changes for div1 and 2 next year?

For anyone unaware the majority of club delegates have voted in favour of splitting both divisions into a and b. Top 8 teams in div 1 this year will qualify for 1a next year then next 5/6 plus promoted teams playing in 1b.

Relegation will be the same with bottom team in the b league being relegated with the next 2 entering a relegation playoff. top 2 in B promoted to A and bottom 2 in A relegated to B

No more playoff for the league title with the top in A winning it. Starred games are worth 2 points for a win and non starred worth 3 for a win.

This is incorrect.
There hasn't been a vote on which option to go with yet.

Seems to be a lot of momentum building behind getting rid of the goalkeeper induced 12 v 11 overload. Personally I agree after watching yesterdays fare.

Obv Morgan is one of our biggest strengths and will be severely curtailed if this were to be implemented. Question is, would it be crazy to see him take up an out field role?

I think one of the problems at the minute is that our players are too comfortable taking the easy pass back to morgan.

They've become overly reliant on him. There were so many times on sunday when we were in attacking positions, with space ahead and just turned back to morgan.

Seen details handed out to junior clubs during the week. With the new 3 and 3A structure, they are going for 8teams in 3 and 10teams in 3A. Surely that makes absolutely no sense? Why not 9 and 9? Instead the teams in 3 have 14 games and the teams in 3A have 18 games, including 5 in 15 days, with the last of those being 13 days out from the championship.

I appreciate organising of fixtures isn't easy, but this is a bit of a nonsense.

Did the clubs not play for 'top 8' last year to be in 3A? Can't just change that now because omagh is entering a 3rds team.

All not well in Gortin. Full Committee stepped away!

They terminated the link with Glenelly against previous agreements between the two clubs. Didn't sit well with a lot within Gortin.

From what I hear it's the opposite. A group of parents totally against the link with glenelly and have forced the committee out because of it

they want their children to play for gortin only

No mention of when games will be played. Is it still going to be Friday Night Games?

NO set Holiday period also isnt going to work, men will already have things booked for July Break

The start date is 9/11th so sounds like some games will be on Sundays. Maybe swapping between each division each week?

I know it was mentioned cause of lack of referees

I see Conor sally is going to drag the county through an ulster appeals process (an no doubt DRA).

Seems he returned his nomination form after the deadline but still thinks he should be allowed to stand.

Shameful stuff. Happy to do this to our county, because of his late return, and still wants to be elected???

Article in Irish examiner.

ccc has to look at fixtures, u14s only competition to really go well this year
U16s still going after provisionally being scheduled for may, pushed back to June then practically July
I saw G2/G3 league games still going last week in the fixtures
Minors ran from start of year to sept

will ccc sticks with same schedule as this year?
That should be confirmed by end of previous year so at least clubs know which age group is out in feb/mar

Posted this previously and still think it would work better than the current system. What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

That's what we had last year. U16's first followed by u14 and minor. Clubs voted to change it back

Tyrone minors changed after that and that completely ruined the club minor season and none of the proposals for 2025 will result in anything different for the club minor season. Needs to be played after county is finished. Under 16 going first negates this to a certain extent bar the small few who will start for the Tyrone Under 17s. Also means every will be playing football in the summer months with 14 and 18 running together. 12s going first before 14 is also a more natural transition than the other way.

Yeah but you just get the bottle neck at the latter half of the season then

Instead of minor clashing with County Minor, it's clashes with club championship. That was a big issue and was the reason it switched back this year

ccc has to look at fixtures, u14s only competition to really go well this year
U16s still going after provisionally being scheduled for may, pushed back to June then practically July
I saw G2/G3 league games still going last week in the fixtures
Minors ran from start of year to sept

will ccc sticks with same schedule as this year?
That should be confirmed by end of previous year so at least clubs know which age group is out in feb/mar

Posted this previously and still think it would work better than the current system. What I would like to see at club level would be -
A modified calendar along the lines of:

U12 - April - June
U14 - July - October (finish before school football begins)
U16 - March - June (starting after the conclusion of school football which is generally St Patrick's Day and the traditional club start anyway - County Minors available to all clubs as was supposed to be the case this year but enforced by CCC - problem would be lessened as less players affected)
U18 - Late June - September (beginning after County Minor season and exams and concluded prior to Senior championships)
Reserve (with anyone Over 16 eligible - giving those lads football through Spring) - April - August
Senior (Over 17 only eligible) - May - October

That's what we had last year. U16's first followed by u14 and minor. Clubs voted to change it back

3 competitions that seem to have been discontinued in Tyrone as a result of the GAA changing age grades (and then changing back) are U-20/U-21, Og Sport and U-13 League.
The U-20/21's is a real shame as this would be the first year (bar 2020) since it's inception in 1973 that a Grade between Minor and Senior/Reserve is not played in Tyrone. Og Sport made a comeback in 2022 after 2 seasons due to Covid but no sign of it since, and there hasn't been an U-13 Grade since the age grades were changed back at the start of 2023. The U-13 Leagues were very useful in determining the gradings of teams at U-14 Level the following season.
Just think it would be nice to see these competitions back at some point.

Where would you put them in the calendar?

Armagh £12
Fermanagh £10

Not the end of the world but why's it always Garvaghy setting the standard for this

Has the price structure not been the same all year and for the last while? £1 more than the gate.