Meath senior football

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Meath have never fully recovered from the 2001 All Ireland final.
They were unbackable favourites that day and they were always confident they had the mental toughness. That belief has never come back.

most of the current panel weren't even born. I think we missed golden opportunity between 07,11 to win a all ire. I do think we will win one in next 5 to 8 years IF we change management for next year.

Highly ambitious given where you are at currently and how routinely Dublin win Leinster each year.

[Dunneroyal]

Meath have never fully recovered from the 2001 All Ireland final.
They were unbackable favourites that day and they were always confident they had the mental toughness. That belief has never come back.

most of the current panel weren't even born. I think we missed golden opportunity between 07,11 to win a all ire. I do think we will win one in next 5 to 8 years IF we change management for next year.

Highly ambitious given where you are at currently and how routinely Dublin win Leinster each year.

indeed to the outside that is what it looks like.  However we have a minor all Ireland and Leinster winning team who progressed to win Leinster u20 this year narrowly loosing to Kerry in a game everyone said they should have won. I believe in the next 5/8 the two teams to beat will be Tyrone and Meath now of course like the add says past success does not guarantee future progress. However they are very good indicators. I know the father of one of the lads on the u20 panel and former minor winner. They have beaten dubs nearly every time they have played them with I think one exception this year. While he believes that they have a good team he and the team see Tyrone as their main opponents going forward. 
But all of this is immaterial if we don't have the right man in charge. That man is most certainly not colm O'Rourke . Colm said at years end that he wanted another 5 years. The only reason he said this is he is hoping the players can dig him out of a hole and that they are that talented that he can just enjoy the ride and they will win Leinster and all ire and he will get the credit all while bagging huge expenses.  The sad truth is that if he were to remain even for one more year his bad management style and zero coaching would destroy what is our best group since the geraghty Giles Murphy era. Better than 07/11. Which did quite good reaching two all ire semis. 
This is why so many in county are crying out for change. We need it now. The players have filled out their responses and it's now what the cb or colm expected, they have been very critical of management etc with one saying he was so unfit when he went back to his club that a 40yo beat him in a sprint. Unfortunately for the most part the current players won't experience the highs that I believe will come within the next decade. Some will like frayne, Flynn (who walked away this year and  won't play under colm if rumour is to be believed) will be a part of the new modern Meath team that can and I believe will bring us back to glory.  However none of this will happen if we allow colm and the cb to keep the set up that is there in place.

[Dunneroyal]

Rumours! But I'm told it's from within the camp.

Players have collectively given their opinion to the County Board and they aren't happy with the current management set up. No further details but points towards Colm either not getting another term or he needs to change things up dramatically in the set up. I wonder if the players who left the panel were also asked.

heard same. Very upset with some high profile players saying they unlikely to return should current set up remain. Ch want colm regardless of results. Perhaps the fans should speak with their feet and boycott

[ClubScene13]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

[statto]

Meath have never fully recovered from the 2001 All Ireland final.
They were unbackable favourites that day and they were always confident they had the mental toughness. That belief has never come back.

most of the current panel weren't even born. I think we missed golden opportunity between 07,11 to win a all ire. I do think we will win one in next 5 to 8 years IF we change management for next year.

Highly ambitious given where you are at currently and how routinely Dublin win Leinster each year.

indeed to the outside that is what it looks like.  However we have a minor all Ireland and Leinster winning team who progressed to win Leinster u20 this year narrowly loosing to Kerry in a game everyone said they should have won. I believe in the next 5/8 the two teams to beat will be Tyrone and Meath now of course like the add says past success does not guarantee future progress. However they are very good indicators. I know the father of one of the lads on the u20 panel and former minor winner. They have beaten dubs nearly every time they have played them with I think one exception this year. While he believes that they have a good team he and the team see Tyrone as their main opponents going forward. 
But all of this is immaterial if we don't have the right man in charge. That man is most certainly not colm O'Rourke . Colm said at years end that he wanted another 5 years. The only reason he said this is he is hoping the players can dig him out of a hole and that they are that talented that he can just enjoy the ride and they will win Leinster and all ire and he will get the credit all while bagging huge expenses.  The sad truth is that if he were to remain even for one more year his bad management style and zero coaching would destroy what is our best group since the geraghty Giles Murphy era. Better than 07/11. Which did quite good reaching two all ire semis. 
This is why so many in county are crying out for change. We need it now. The players have filled out their responses and it's now what the cb or colm expected, they have been very critical of management etc with one saying he was so unfit when he went back to his club that a 40yo beat him in a sprint. Unfortunately for the most part the current players won't experience the highs that I believe will come within the next decade. Some will like frayne, Flynn (who walked away this year and  won't play under colm if rumour is to be believed) will be a part of the new modern Meath team that can and I believe will bring us back to glory.  However none of this will happen if we allow colm and the cb to keep the set up that is there in place.

Armagh won all ireland minor in 2009 and it took to 2024 for those lads that toughed it out to collect an all ireland (murnin, grugan.) Given where Meath are at find it difficult to see them winning an All ireland in 5-8 years if O rourke goes.   

[Blowitupref]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

Was more than one minor team

Meath won Leinster U17 titles in 2017,2018,2020,2021 and won the All Ireland 2021. Should be decent group of players in their early 20s to pick from now to do better than they currently doing at senior level

[ClubScene13]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

Was more than one minor team

Meath won Leinster U17 titles in 2017,2018,2020,2021 and won the All Ireland 2021. Should be decent group of players in their early 20s to pick from now to do better than they currently doing at senior level

That's a fair shout didn't know that. Big ask to bring that many through though, even Kerry have only collected 1 all ireland from their 5 in a row all ireland minors 2014-2018. And that would be lads coming into an already established contender.

Cavan won 4 Ulster under 21's in a row 2011-2014 and never threatened getting near an All Ireland final.

I also think this Meath Under 20 team were going to get blown away in the AI final had they got there. I hope they do perk up again though because Leinster need it.

[Blowitupref]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

Was more than one minor team

Meath won Leinster U17 titles in 2017,2018,2020,2021 and won the All Ireland 2021. Should be decent group of players in their early 20s to pick from now to do better than they currently doing at senior level

That's a fair shout didn't know that. Big ask to bring that many through though, even Kerry have only collected 1 all ireland from their 5 in a row all ireland minors 2014-2018. And that would be lads coming into an already established contender.

Cavan won 4 Ulster under 21's in a row 2011-2014 and never threatened getting near an All Ireland final.

I also think this Meath Under 20 team were going to get blown away in the AI final had they got there. I hope they do perk up again though because Leinster need it.

Kerry would struggle to be contender at all but for that success at minor level, they must look back on this and last year as wasted opportunities to win another senior All Ireland. With a lot of that same players it was Meath that beat Tyrone in the minor final in 2021 had they reached the U20 AI final and got blown away it would highlight Meath aren't developing their underage talent like Tyrone especially on strength and conditioning.

[thejuice]

Yes. Meath have been way behind at U21, U20 and senior level for years. It seems like every other year we appointment someone new to oversee S&C at all the different levels but they seem to walk away without getting much done.

The success at U18 and below suggests there's a good wellspring of talent there but we're failing them badly after Minor level.

Nevermind winning Sam we should be a division 1 team at least if the CB got their act together.

O'Rourke's term is up by the looks of it and I don't see any clear contenders internally. Wonder could Robbie Brennan be an option, many also suggest Malachy O'Rourke. Need to have the best coaches too.

Hopefully O'Rourkes backers in the board go with him but the right people need to step in who understand what it takes to be a top team these days.

[Armagh18]

Yes. Meath have been way behind at U21, U20 and senior level for years. It seems like every other year we appointment someone new to oversee S&C at all the different levels but they seem to walk away without getting much done.

The success at U18 and below suggests there's a good wellspring of talent there but we're failing them badly after Minor level.

Nevermind winning Sam we should be a division 1 team at least if the CB got their act together.

O'Rourke's term is up by the looks of it and I don't see any clear contenders internally. Wonder could Robbie Brennan be an option, many also suggest Malachy O'Rourke. Need to have the best coaches too.

Hopefully O'Rourkes backers in the board go with him but the right people need to step in who understand what it takes to be a top team these days.

Definitely a chance for Meath to get out of division 2 next year if they got their house in order. Think the best 8 teams in the country at the minute are in division 1, I know Roscommon did beat Tyrone so there is an argument there. Looking back ourselves and Donegal were always going to be miles ahead of the pack in D2 and bounce straight back up, similarly the year before Derry and Dublin were  always going to be ahead of the rest. Could be proved wrong yet but don't think I can say the same for Monaghan and Roscommon next year and the likes of Louth and Cork will fancy their chances of going up and Meath will see themselves as capable of their level as well.

Down and Westmeath could push well also in that league and very easily leave Meath in a relegation battle as well though which to be brutally honest looks more likely than promotion at this stage.

[Dunneroyal]

Meath have never fully recovered from the 2001 All Ireland final.
They were unbackable favourites that day and they were always confident they had the mental toughness. That belief has never come back.

most of the current panel weren't even born. I think we missed golden opportunity between 07,11 to win a all ire. I do think we will win one in next 5 to 8 years IF we change management for next year.

Highly ambitious given where you are at currently and how routinely Dublin win Leinster each year.

indeed to the outside that is what it looks like.  However we have a minor all Ireland and Leinster winning team who progressed to win Leinster u20 this year narrowly loosing to Kerry in a game everyone said they should have won. I believe in the next 5/8 the two teams to beat will be Tyrone and Meath now of course like the add says past success does not guarantee future progress. However they are very good indicators. I know the father of one of the lads on the u20 panel and former minor winner. They have beaten dubs nearly every time they have played them with I think one exception this year. While he believes that they have a good team he and the team see Tyrone as their main opponents going forward. 
But all of this is immaterial if we don't have the right man in charge. That man is most certainly not colm O'Rourke . Colm said at years end that he wanted another 5 years. The only reason he said this is he is hoping the players can dig him out of a hole and that they are that talented that he can just enjoy the ride and they will win Leinster and all ire and he will get the credit all while bagging huge expenses.  The sad truth is that if he were to remain even for one more year his bad management style and zero coaching would destroy what is our best group since the geraghty Giles Murphy era. Better than 07/11. Which did quite good reaching two all ire semis. 
This is why so many in county are crying out for change. We need it now. The players have filled out their responses and it's now what the cb or colm expected, they have been very critical of management etc with one saying he was so unfit when he went back to his club that a 40yo beat him in a sprint. Unfortunately for the most part the current players won't experience the highs that I believe will come within the next decade. Some will like frayne, Flynn (who walked away this year and  won't play under colm if rumour is to be believed) will be a part of the new modern Meath team that can and I believe will bring us back to glory.  However none of this will happen if we allow colm and the cb to keep the set up that is there in place.

Armagh won all ireland minor in 2009 and it took to 2024 for those lads that toughed it out to collect an all ireland (murnin, grugan.) Given where Meath are at find it difficult to see them winning an All ireland in 5-8 years if O rourke goes.    Meath have frayne , Costello , Flynn all 3 would walk onto any team in country. The problem is if O'Rourke was over Dublin Kerry or Armagh. They would be in same situation as Meath are in now.  The players are there. And better coming through. But the sideline is not.

[Dunneroyal]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

Was more than one minor team

Meath won Leinster U17 titles in 2017,2018,2020,2021 and won the All Ireland 2021. Should be decent group of players in their early 20s to pick from now to do better than they currently doing at senior level

That's a fair shout didn't know that. Big ask to bring that many through though, even Kerry have only collected 1 all ireland from their 5 in a row all ireland minors 2014-2018. And that would be lads coming into an already established contender.

Cavan won 4 Ulster under 21's in a row 2011-2014 and never threatened getting near an All Ireland final.

I also think this Meath Under 20 team were going to get blown away in the AI final had they got there. I hope they do perk up again though because Leinster need it. Not at all basing it on that solely. Basing it on combination of that. About 5 players on current team 5/6 players not on panel who should be and those coming through.

[Dunneroyal]

Meath have never fully recovered from the 2001 All Ireland final.
They were unbackable favourites that day and they were always confident they had the mental toughness. That belief has never come back.

most of the current panel weren't even born. I think we missed golden opportunity between 07,11 to win a all ire. I do think we will win one in next 5 to 8 years IF we change management for next year.

Highly ambitious given where you are at currently and how routinely Dublin win Leinster each year.

indeed to the outside that is what it looks like.  However we have a minor all Ireland and Leinster winning team who progressed to win Leinster u20 this year narrowly loosing to Kerry in a game everyone said they should have won. I believe in the next 5/8 the two teams to beat will be Tyrone and Meath now of course like the add says past success does not guarantee future progress. However they are very good indicators. I know the father of one of the lads on the u20 panel and former minor winner. They have beaten dubs nearly every time they have played them with I think one exception this year. While he believes that they have a good team he and the team see Tyrone as their main opponents going forward. 
But all of this is immaterial if we don't have the right man in charge. That man is most certainly not colm O'Rourke . Colm said at years end that he wanted another 5 years. The only reason he said this is he is hoping the players can dig him out of a hole and that they are that talented that he can just enjoy the ride and they will win Leinster and all ire and he will get the credit all while bagging huge expenses.  The sad truth is that if he were to remain even for one more year his bad management style and zero coaching would destroy what is our best group since the geraghty Giles Murphy era. Better than 07/11. Which did quite good reaching two all ire semis. 
This is why so many in county are crying out for change. We need it now. The players have filled out their responses and it's now what the cb or colm expected, they have been very critical of management etc with one saying he was so unfit when he went back to his club that a 40yo beat him in a sprint. Unfortunately for the most part the current players won't experience the highs that I believe will come within the next decade. Some will like frayne, Flynn (who walked away this year and  won't play under colm if rumour is to be believed) will be a part of the new modern Meath team that can and I believe will bring us back to glory.  However none of this will happen if we allow colm and the cb to keep the set up that is there in place.

Armagh won all ireland minor in 2009 and it took to 2024 for those lads that toughed it out to collect an all ireland (murnin, grugan.) Given where Meath are at find it difficult to see them winning an All ireland in 5-8 years if O rourke goes.    5/8 id say. And certainly not basing it solely on that you see we also don't have the current best players on team there's about 5 certain starters (could be as high as 9)  who have either walked away or won't play under colm so this year certainly can't be a judge on where Meath are or even last year. Add those to the good ones on the team and what's coming through. Remember Meath beat Armagh in Javan a few years back a lot of that same team now have all ire medals. It will be a gradual thing but I believe under a new manager who can get the best players on panel and allow the younger lads to bed in Meath could push for promotion next year and remain in div 1 the following year then challenge Dublin for hopefully a Leinster win in year 3. Then see what happens hopefully reach semis in year 5 perhaps final.

[Dunneroyal]

This is crazy talk based on one minor team. Pie in the sky. Geraghy and Giles were hardly arriving into a senior set up that was in dire straights, Meath were a power at the team. It'll take more than one minor team to turn that ship around, absolutely miles off it

exactly

Was more than one minor team

Meath won Leinster U17 titles in 2017,2018,2020,2021 and won the All Ireland 2021. Should be decent group of players in their early 20s to pick from now to do better than they currently doing at senior level

[Dunneroyal]

Don't know why my posts aren't showing up.