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There's no equivalence between County and Inter-County championships.

Re. inter-county
- the National Football League is a graded competition and works well as such
- the Sam Maguire Cup used to be a knockout competition for all counties.

The provincial championships are a hindrance to an equitable Sam Maguire Cup competition:
Open-draw Sam Maguire Cup
Round 1: Open draw for the 16 Division 3 and Division 4 teams
Round 2: Open draw for 8 Round 1 winners and 8 Division 2 teams
Round 3 (last 16): Open draw for 8 Round 2 winners and 8 Division 1 teams
Round 4 (quarter-finals) : Open draw for Round 3 winners
All-Ireland Semi-Finals : Open draw for Round 4 winners

Bring back the cutting edge of knockout football.

The provincials are fecking class. 3 cracking finals and the Munster final in all but name was a serious battle as well.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2qq2n3800o

Kneecap member arrested for "terror offence"

Even more ironic considering winkie getting away with having a gun which couldn't be connected to terrorism...

Exactly this what a joke

An absolute disgrace.

There will be a riot on the streets if that case goes anywhere.

United are awful. Amorin getting this wrong at the minute too.

Wouldn't think it, he's too busy running after RG. On a serious note, we can run onto the field and bury a man and nothing is done about it. Sure it straight in front of the lineman.I remember a underage game I played in many years ago where players were struck in a row during the game. Anyway it ended up with the county board requesting the name of the offenders. We didn't give it and were throw out. So am suprised the GAA does not ask Armagh to name the offenders.

In all seriousness good luck to the gaa trying to enforce retrospective action again in future when they clearly turned a blind eye to what can only be described as assault to a donegal player.

Cry me a river.

Immature reponse. I personally dont believe any action would make any difference to Armagh's season but I think it is ridiculous that nothing is being done here. It was assault in broad daylight. I dont believe its a conspiracy that Burns isnt looking into it just because its Armagh. But it does make you wonder where his priorities lie

Is Burns expected to personally over see all cases of rows at games?

Possibly not - but he did take it on himself previously to get involved in a case of alleged wrongdoing, whereas in this case there was obvious televised assault which you could argue tarnishes the reputation of the organisation. Why should he not get involved this time to call out how unacceptable this is?

It's absolutely ridiculous that nothing has been done about this. As someone else said, if it's not clear how the players were the counties should be asked for their names, and should be kicked out if they refuse to comply. As it is now, its ok for subs to run on and deck someone if they don't like what they're doing on the pitch.

As I understand it's a fine only for Armagh. No idea about Donegal.

That said surely the obvious answer to your first point is he shouldn't have gotten involved in RG and to get involved here would be to undermine a quasi independent body within the association.

On the second point there are admittedly very restrictive procedures in place to deal with these. Following those procedures the appropriate body made a ruling. If that determination is unpopular then the appropriate response is to petition club reps to change those procedures in the correct manner. It's not for the President to get involved on an ad hoc basis.

I hadn't actually realised there had been a fine issued - at least that's something.
Fully agree with you on what you said here though. He shouldn't have go involved in the first instance, but once he did he set himself up for scrutiny for his response on issues around assault, breaking the law or even allegations.

So you're right, JB shouldn't get involved in an adhoc basis, but that is what he's done previously. Now when he doesnt get involved I think its fair to ask the question as to why....and in this case the obvious question is around his allegiances to his home county. It taints him with nepotism that he hasn't condemned the actions which break the rules. He can do that without getting involved in the process directly and that would have been more in line with the standard he has set himself.

For what its worth, if the Donegal player said the things he's supposed to have said then it's disgusting. But that too should be handled through the appropriate process and condemned.

There's no place for, reason for, or excuse for any player running onto a pitch to attack another player and manys a player has had very long bans for doing likewise.

Obviously I'm not privy to the presidents thoughts but I do think though we have to consider a number of factors which may relevant to his non engagement on this.

Firstly this was until this morning (and possibly may still be an active disciplinary matter. He may not wish to be drawn in to comment until it's resolved.

Secondly RG was a safeguarding issue which is different from that.

Finally he may be once bitten twice shy about being publicly vocal again. Particularly given the ongoing legal action.

All that said. If he were to comment on future matters serious questions would have to be asked.

Yeah would agree with all that

[Im not sure if there was ever a precedent for the president telling clubs who they should and shouldnt hire, so maybe thats not the best angle to approach this form.]

Wouldn't think it, he's too busy running after RG. On a serious note, we can run onto the field and bury a man and nothing is done about it. Sure it straight in front of the lineman.I remember a underage game I played in many years ago where players were struck in a row during the game. Anyway it ended up with the county board requesting the name of the offenders. We didn't give it and were throw out. So am suprised the GAA does not ask Armagh to name the offenders.

In all seriousness good luck to the gaa trying to enforce retrospective action again in future when they clearly turned a blind eye to what can only be described as assault to a donegal player.

Cry me a river.

Immature reponse. I personally dont believe any action would make any difference to Armagh's season but I think it is ridiculous that nothing is being done here. It was assault in broad daylight. I dont believe its a conspiracy that Burns isnt looking into it just because its Armagh. But it does make you wonder where his priorities lie

Is Burns expected to personally over see all cases of rows at games?

Another silly response. All cases? No. Major ones like this in the intercounty championship? Yes.

Has any president ever previously? Genuine question, is there not a whole separate committee who deal with incidents like that? Would you be expecting Jarlath to get involved if it was Cork and Clare in a row?

Im not sure if there was ever a precedent for the president telling clubs who they should and shouldnt hire, so maybe thats not the best angle to approach this form.
Regardless if it is Jarlath himself or some separate committee, incidents like this need to be investigated. "Cry me a river" is a ridiculous response to assault.

Knew that would be mentioned and for the record Jarlath was 100% wrong there imo but he had his reasons and is sticking to them in fairness to him.

"Assault" Jesus it was a boy mouthing off getting a deserved box, nothing more to it, the world would be a better place if more got it.

Wouldn't think it, he's too busy running after RG. On a serious note, we can run onto the field and bury a man and nothing is done about it. Sure it straight in front of the lineman.I remember a underage game I played in many years ago where players were struck in a row during the game. Anyway it ended up with the county board requesting the name of the offenders. We didn't give it and were throw out. So am suprised the GAA does not ask Armagh to name the offenders.

In all seriousness good luck to the gaa trying to enforce retrospective action again in future when they clearly turned a blind eye to what can only be described as assault to a donegal player.

Cry me a river.

Immature reponse. I personally dont believe any action would make any difference to Armagh's season but I think it is ridiculous that nothing is being done here. It was assault in broad daylight. I dont believe its a conspiracy that Burns isnt looking into it just because its Armagh. But it does make you wonder where his priorities lie

Is Burns expected to personally over see all cases of rows at games?

Another silly response. All cases? No. Major ones like this in the intercounty championship? Yes.

Has any president ever previously? Genuine question, is there not a whole separate committee who deal with incidents like that? Would you be expecting Jarlath to get involved if it was Cork and Clare in a row?

Wouldn't think it, he's too busy running after RG. On a serious note, we can run onto the field and bury a man and nothing is done about it. Sure it straight in front of the lineman.I remember a underage game I played in many years ago where players were struck in a row during the game. Anyway it ended up with the county board requesting the name of the offenders. We didn't give it and were throw out. So am suprised the GAA does not ask Armagh to name the offenders.

In all seriousness good luck to the gaa trying to enforce retrospective action again in future when they clearly turned a blind eye to what can only be described as assault to a donegal player.

Cry me a river.

Immature reponse. I personally dont believe any action would make any difference to Armagh's season but I think it is ridiculous that nothing is being done here. It was assault in broad daylight. I dont believe its a conspiracy that Burns isnt looking into it just because its Armagh. But it does make you wonder where his priorities lie

Is Burns expected to personally over see all cases of rows at games?

Brilliant for Fermanagh and Wexford to get a run out in Croke park and be a curtain raiser to a big game.


Use to be minors that did that .
Replaced the minors with county teams .
Genius ........

You were saying the Tailtean Cup teams were getting no Profile. Can't win

Is this profile ?

Game being played in an empty Croke park at 1.45 and should all be finished before the main crowd starts coming in.

If Fermanagh and Wexford people can't come out snd support their teams what do you want the GAA to do?

Wouldn't think it, he's too busy running after RG. On a serious note, we can run onto the field and bury a man and nothing is done about it. Sure it straight in front of the lineman.I remember a underage game I played in many years ago where players were struck in a row during the game. Anyway it ended up with the county board requesting the name of the offenders. We didn't give it and were throw out. So am suprised the GAA does not ask Armagh to name the offenders.

In all seriousness good luck to the gaa trying to enforce retrospective action again in future when they clearly turned a blind eye to what can only be described as assault to a donegal player.

Cry me a river.

Ban all of their "supporters" for one match. That would put manners on them. It's clearly not safe for our players to go to Armagh on Saturday evening.

If they are not coming would they please tell us, as I do not want to get wet.

The c***ts didn't turn up the last 2 times we played them either!

Maybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?   

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.

would be gobsmacked if there were any suspensions. While the players throwing the punches (cat IV 2 game suspension) would be known to people, unless footage clearly shows them striking, it'll be dropped imo...four or 5 men piling into a man with his hands held out isn't a good look , but as I say, they'll live to fight in the next round.

Isn't there a rule where they can't used mobile phone footage? Anyway, no way to tell who did what from that video, would expect it to be either a fine or nothing. Derry and Tyrone ones seem to be worried about it

We cant all have the president of the gaa protecting us.

Now now manys the Tyrone man got away with suspension overturned and stuff through the years.

And really, do you think Jarlath is sending emails out telling the CCC or whoever it is not to be handing out band because it's Armagh?

Maybe it's punishment for the Armagh antics at the end of the Ulster final?   

Did any suspensions follow that? Really surprising if nothing was done about it.

would be gobsmacked if there were any suspensions. While the players throwing the punches (cat IV 2 game suspension) would be known to people, unless footage clearly shows them striking, it'll be dropped imo...four or 5 men piling into a man with his hands held out isn't a good look , but as I say, they'll live to fight in the next round.

Isn't there a rule where they can't used mobile phone footage? Anyway, no way to tell who did what from that video, would expect it to be either a fine or nothing. Derry and Tyrone ones seem to be worried about it

Armagh were every bit the new winner in 2024 as 2002

Tyrone and Donegal had messianic managers who broke the mould, Donegal with less to show for it

Galway had one of the great teams before stinking the next 20 years out

Kerry are the standard bearers and will always be there or thereabouts

Dublin had the most financially doped team/era in GAA history and skewed the landscape, Mayo and others were the victims

Teams like Kildare Derry Down Cork Meath have blown more cold than hot the last 25 years

Don't think there's a snowballs chance of anyone not listed wining Sam in the next 25 years

Don't write off Louth, population is growing and serious work being done there at underage. Agree with your broader point though. 

Is Derry's position within the top tier in Ulster on the line this weekend.

If they suffer another defeat this weekend would be hard to make a case for them to be within the top 6 in Ulster.

1. Donegal
2. Armagh
3. Tyrone
4. Monaghan
5. Down
6. Cavan
7. Derry
8. Fermnanagh
9. Antrim

Above is the way i'd see it unless Derry can muster something on Saturday.

Derry would beat Down and Cavan out the gate.

Cunha deal done apparently.