NI's future in the United Kingdom could depend on Catholics - Robinson

[Trout]

I'm very much alive.

Trash like you can stay where you are.

[mylestheslasher]

I'm very much alive.

Trash like you can stay where you are.

Swim along toss pot.

[Trout]

I'm very much alive.

Trash like you can stay where you are.

Swim along toss pot.

Temper, temper, where to bog man?

[Trout]

"No Irish nationalist could support any treaty which institutionalizes British government claims to a part of Irish national territory.  Indeed, the term - 'constitutional nationalism'- used by Mr.Mallon (SDLP) and his colleagues to describe their political philosophy is a contradiction in terms. The only constitutional nationalist in  Ireland today is Sean McBride. He puts his nationalism within a  framework of Irish constitutionality. Mr. Mallon, however, puts his within the framework of British constitutionality. Irish nationalism  within British constitutionality is a contradiction in terms." 

- Gerry Adams, 1986
("The Politics of Irish Freedom", Gerry Adams, Brandon Book Publishers, Ltd., Dingle, County Kerry, Ireland 1986, page 112, lines 26-35. NOTE:  REMOVED FROM 1995 and1996 EDITIONS). 

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[mylestheslasher]

I know Gerry let you down but don't worry it'll all come good in the end and you can be part of a unified 32 counties.

[Trout]

I know Gerry let you down but don't worry it'll all come good in the end and you can be part of a unified 32 counties.

No interest in free state vermin.

[Tony Baloney]

I think Trout has been at the drinks cabinet again.

[Trout]

I think Trout has been at the drinks cabinet again.

What the f**k would someone like you know?

[mylestheslasher]

I know Gerry let you down but don't worry it'll all come good in the end and you can be part of a unified 32 counties.

No interest in free state vermin.

That's Nazi talk, I think I'm getting a clearer picture of this particular fish. Still, we would welcome you and yours into the republic. Being a republic we would cherish all our children, even you trout with all your bitterness. I look forward to the day.

[mylestheslasher]

I think Trout has been at the drinks cabinet again.

What the f**k would someone like you know?

Temper temper.

[year til sunday]

I'd also argue that if another life is lost over division/unification, then it's one too many.

I agree that far too many lives have been lost because this island is divided. Not one more life should be lost to keep it divided.

how would a referendum on Irish unity result in a loss of life?

[Trout]

I'd also argue that if another life is lost over division/unification, then it's one too many.

I agree that far too many lives have been lost because this island is divided. Not one more life should be lost to keep it divided.

how would a referendum on Irish unity result in a loss of life?

Are you brain dead? Do you not think Martin McGuinesses best mates in the DUP would mobilise the UDA/UVF?

[Orangemac]

Not necessarily, at least in the short to medium term. SF and the SDLP could get 60% of the vote, but it's only the vote on a referendum that matters. I don't think it would make any sense to push for a referendum until the nationalist vote is at least 55%.

As for the DUP attracting Catholics... I can't see it happening in any significant numbers. Robinson's reaction to the Prison Service emblems issue is a reminder of just how moderate the DUP is. Not very.

Even if the nationalist vote hit 55%, it is the increasing number of people not voting (mainly young people) who would be the determining factor. The type of people who voted on the GFA but might not have voted since.

[Hardy]

Spot on, Deiseach.

Surely there is a better argument than listening to dead men?

That should be framed and hung on every Irish livingroom wall where Devalera and the pope used to be.

All this mediaeval talk of Protestant and Catholic in a political debate is depressing. Should it be Nationalist and Unionist or is Northern Ireland really the last society in the post-Christian world (for want of a better term) that votes on sectarian lines?

[year til sunday]

I'd also argue that if another life is lost over division/unification, then it's one too many.

I agree that far too many lives have been lost because this island is divided. Not one more life should be lost to keep it divided.

how would a referendum on Irish unity result in a loss of life?

Are you brain dead? Do you not think Martin McGuinesses best mates in the DUP would mobilise the UDA/UVF?

i don't know, would they, and under what circumstances and for what end?