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Cunny Funt

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« Reply #795 on: April 12, 2018, 04:27:21 PM »
why would Liverpool not be classed the same as Roma, relatively piss poor in their own league and happy to have overachieved by reaching CL semi finals
Tradition. Roma would be like Wexford in 2008 happy to have overachieved. Liverpool more like Galway, once they reach a semi final they would fancy their chances to win the cup as much as any team remaining.

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« Reply #796 on: April 12, 2018, 04:29:07 PM »
Don't like the look of the Olympic Stadium in Kiev as a venue for the final. Has a running track which is always a buzzkill and then a path outside that about half the width of the track again. The seating is very gradually inclined and those in the upper deck, especially behind the goals will need binoculars as they'll be a couple of hundred metres away.

I would be delighted to have a reason to care!  ;) ;)

I saw United play Kiev in it about 10 years ago, before it was renovated I don’t remember it being too bad. The city and country itself was ‘interesting’ to say the least.. you can get a taxi driver to take you to Chernobyl if you like

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« Reply #797 on: April 12, 2018, 04:36:46 PM »
why would Liverpool not be classed the same as Roma, relatively piss poor in their own league and happy to have overachieved by reaching CL semi finals
Tradition. Roma would be like Wexford in 2008 happy to have overachieved. Liverpool more like Galway, once they reach a semi final they would fancy their chances to win the cup as much as any team remaining.

Roma have been knocking around the top of the Seria A and getting to European Cup knockout stages very regularly in recent years. In Nainggolan and De Rossi they have two of the finest box-to-box midfielders in the game, something Liverpool for example have sorely lacked in recent years.

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« Reply #798 on: April 12, 2018, 04:42:31 PM »
am i right Roma have never made it this far before in champions league and Liverpool have only once ?????

to me both are in pretty unchartered territories then and neither should be settling for this alone especially Roma after beating the favourites

Cunny Funt

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« Reply #799 on: April 12, 2018, 04:45:59 PM »
am i right Roma have never made it this far before in champions league and Liverpool have only once ?????

to me both are in pretty unchartered territories then and neither should be settling for this alone especially Roma after beating the favourites
Off the top of my head Liverpool reach 2007 Champions league final and semi final in 2008. Roma last year were in the Europa league and were knocked out by Lyon in the round of 16.

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« Reply #800 on: April 12, 2018, 04:47:29 PM »
am i right Roma have never made it this far before in champions league and Liverpool have only once ?????

to me both are in pretty unchartered territories then and neither should be settling for this alone especially Roma after beating the favourites

Liverpool were finalists in 2005 and 2007. Semi in 2008. I'm pretty sure they were the Number 1 ranked team in Europe for a year going by the Uefa Coeefficient rankings

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« Reply #801 on: April 12, 2018, 06:33:42 PM »
Don't like the look of the Olympic Stadium in Kiev as a venue for the final. Has a running track which is always a buzzkill and then a path outside that about half the width of the track again. The seating is very gradually inclined and those in the upper deck, especially behind the goals will need binoculars as they'll be a couple of hundred metres away.

I would be delighted to have a reason to care!  ;) ;)

I saw United play Kiev in it about 10 years ago, before it was renovated I don’t remember it being too bad. The city and country itself was ‘interesting’ to say the least.. you can get a taxi driver to take you to Chernobyl if you like
Many do make the trip apparently and it sounds fascinating. A cold war era ghost town being gradually reclaimed by the Eastern European forest with wolves,brown bears and lynx returning to the area now that it's free of humans. Seems radioactive waste is much better for nature than man.

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« Reply #802 on: April 12, 2018, 10:09:47 PM »
You do not need a visa to visit Ukraine as long as you stay under 90 days.

Flight time UK to Kiev for the final 3hrs 15 mins.

sid waddell

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« Reply #803 on: April 12, 2018, 10:54:29 PM »
Don't like the look of the Olympic Stadium in Kiev as a venue for the final. Has a running track which is always a buzzkill and then a path outside that about half the width of the track again. The seating is very gradually inclined and those in the upper deck, especially behind the goals will need binoculars as they'll be a couple of hundred metres away.

It'll do very nicely.

Four of Liverpool's five European Cup victories have come in stadiums with tracks around the pitch.

Even the sole exception, the Parc Des Princes in 1981, has a much extended area behind the goal compared to most stadiums.

Asal Mor

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« Reply #804 on: April 13, 2018, 06:44:46 AM »
The 2 finals they lost were in stadiums that had running tracks too Sid. It's the same for both teams but Liverpool would be well used to and comfortable with a more claustrophobic, noisier setting.

Running tracks sterilise the atmosphere. We won't see anything like say, the first leg against Man City at Anfield. Tracks are a large part of the decline of the Serie A League. People won't pay to be looking at one and it looks unappealing on tv compared to tight, packed Premier League grounds with the crowd on top of the players.
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