NFL Division 1 2024

Started by Blowitupref, January 16, 2023, 08:23:27 PM

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Lamh Dhearg Alba

Great entertainment and credit to both teams. Modern game can be putrid at times but two good teams going at it like that can provide a great spectacle.

Thought Derry deserved the win overall. Dubs seemed to be playing within themselves a bit in the first half and some poor decision making cost them. Thereafter Derry were better and Dubs looked a bit rattled.

I felt there were questions for Mickey with Derry based on his last decade with Tyrone. He struggled to find the right mix between defence and attack, his micromanagement seemed to inhibit attacking players, and he couldn't win big games in Croke Park. The Championship will be where we get definitive answers but there was a lot there for Derry fans to be confident about, and that Mickey is indeed on the right track. Not so good was being 4 up in the closing stages of normal time and 3 up with seconds of extra time left and being pulled back twice. Not being able to close out games was another of the questions. But they can work on that and beating the Dubs, even if it was on pens, will do them a power of good.

Few questions for the Dubs too after that, lost their heads a bit. Felt a bit too much was made of them thrashing a very much weakened Tyrone side, and a poorly set up one at that. They'll have learned an awful lot more from today.

Aaron Boone

Magnificent game of football. Well done to both teams. Hugely dramatic and enjoyable. 

seafoid

Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2024, 07:08:37 PMLads would you ever give over. Fenton charged at him off the ball and hit him with a raised forearm in the neck. No other option than red.
I only ever heard give over in Dublin . Is it also used in Ulster?

tonto1888

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Quote from: gallsman on March 31, 2024, 07:08:37 PMLads would you ever give over. Fenton charged at him off the ball and hit him with a raised forearm in the neck. No other option than red.
I only ever heard give over in Dublin . Is it also used in Ulster?

Is it not used all over the country?

weareros

Congrats Derry. For the neutral, that was a thoroughly enjoyable game of attacking football. Derry deserved the win but Dublin will be happy enough too to only lose on penalties. Derry are improving all the time and are playing a nice brand of football. Can they keep that level of intensity up? If so, will be hard beaten.

Milltown Row2

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Quote from: imtommygunn on March 31, 2024, 06:48:35 PMYeah felt bad for Fenton. He has lost it twice that I have ever seen - twice against Derry this year too.

Don't think it was a red card and I know it's a cliche but he isn't that type of player.

Raised hands though.

It's not about the handful of the best teams playing good games though. It's the rest.

Never a red card, but a foul and a yellow. Play should have been stopped and Derry given a free. The goal should never have happened.

The ref didn't see it, so play continued till a break in play, informed by his linesman's dished out the card.

This is why armchair ref's need to read the rules every now and then

How do you know the ref didn't see it?
Are you Conor Lane?

He was looking at the ball. Watch it back

Tried, but recording cut out just before the incident.

Will get back to you after RTE's coverage.

I'm going only from what I watched live like you, his position looked forward, he did look round after the incident had happened but played on, I think.

As if he did see it, why not give the free? Then wait to give a red card?

There's no waving flags in live games like soccer, to call a free. The linesman is seen speaking to Lane when it happened on his mic.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

pjm

Dubs at end, when behind, reminded me of the loss to Mayo a few years ago when Mc Carthy got sent off, really losing the head and looking for a scrap.
Nobody in club football in Dublin, including Shane Walsh, will be surprised that Paddy Small was sent off.

Itchy

Did the big screen show the replay at the match? I'm pretty sure that's how lane got the Derry penalty call right, by having a little peek

Captain Obvious

The Dubs not going to get another serious game again until the middle of May.  Round 1 All Ireland series group game could be a good time for any top eight team to play them.

Champion The Wonder Horse

Quote from: ONeill on March 31, 2024, 07:51:35 PMRef didn't see it and went on linesman's view. Linesman was wrong.
How do you know ref didn't see it?
Are you Conor Lane?

thewobbler

The biggest problem with Gaelic football is the endless recycling of the ball around midfield areas.

The second biggest problem is that even when we are served up an absolute classic of a match, the majority of comments are about the refereeing.

Lane had neither a good nor a bad game today, certainly not one worthy of lengthy conjecture. He could have awarded a 13m instead of a penalty, nobody would have complained. He could have black carded Shane McGuigan, with 3 mins remaining, and you could see from McGuigan's eyes that he was expecting one. He could have went easier on Fenton but on balance he refereed that passage of play correctly, including the red card. He made a blooper for Dublin's equaliser no doubt. But balance that up with the fact that he facilitated a brilliant, brilliant game of sport.

Leave him alone.

Leave refs alone.

straightred

Quote from: Aaron Boone on March 31, 2024, 07:52:15 PMMagnificent game of football. Well done to both teams. Hugely dramatic and enjoyable.
Really enjoyed it. Result was fair too. A very soft free got Dublin to ET and then another questionable decision got them to penalties.

Dublin were wide open at the back and Derry could have had 5 goals. They'll sort that out when the other players come back

Captain Scarlet

It was a great game.

It might be a false dawn again...but when the big lads are tied up the newer lads are less likely to grab the game.

them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Blowitupref

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Quote from: Truthsayer on March 31, 2024, 05:14:55 PMCan we assume Dublin defence be much tighter in the championship? Derry could/should have 5 goals..

Can imagine so as they won't be retaining the All Ireland be defending in the manner they have done today. 

Unless there are retirements, the defensive line has McCaffrey, McCarthy, Gannon, Fitzsimons and Cluxton all to return.

Dublin are missing the old guard. In the build up the media said this team would wipe the floor with everyone. Now they are beat they are missing x y or z. McCaffrey isn't a starter now. McCarthy, cluxton and Fitzsimmons maybe but they are old and will they be an improvement and they haven't played a tap all year.

Yes can't keep relying on the old guard, just because it worked last year doesn't mean history will repeat itself this summer.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Whishtup

Best game of football I've seen in years. Fair play to both teams. Jarlath Burns' victory speech also went into extra time!  ;D