Road deaths

[seafoid]

The Government has imposed speed limit reductions on several types of road since the Tipperary tragedies.
100kph on national secondary goes to 80kph and 50kph goes to 30 kph in urban areas


https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2023/0906/1403640-speed-limits/

Someone interviewed on RTE said that this alone will not fix the problem. Most of the risk lies on these roads and there are many dangerous features such as unmarked junctions, very sharp corners and agricultural machinery use. This all has to be addressed.

The 2 Tipperary crashes happened on secondary roads.

[armaghniac]

Here you have a government looking for some 'easy' measure and thry haven't the least interest in road safety. There are enough laws, they need to enforce the.

[seafoid]

Enforcement is a problem all over the island.

[Orior]

Here you have a government looking for some 'easy' measure and thry haven't the least interest in road safety. There are enough laws, they need to enforce the.

They have to start somewhere. And the initial measures were easy to implement. More thought still needs given and I would like to think that there is more measures to come.

[whitey]

Speed cameras are just a revenue grab and probably don't prevent any deaths

Put undercover Guards on the road with dash cams and hammer people for dangerous driving

I was in Ireland in June and a lunatic overtook us at high speed on a very dangerous stretch of road. A mile up the road there's 2 Guards bagging  people at 3:00 PM in the afternoon. My driver got bagged (and passed) but the fvcker who passed us wasn't

Id say speed and dangerous driving accounts for way more deaths than drinking and driving

[Itchy]

I regularly breech the speed limit and the reason I don't I'm honest is that I know I'll never get caught. Proper policing on all roads is the key.

[thewobbler]

Speed cameras are just a revenue grab and probably don't prevent any deaths

Put undercover Guards on the road with dash cams and hammer people for dangerous driving

I was in Ireland in June and a lunatic overtook us at high speed on a very dangerous stretch of road. A mile up the road there's 2 Guards bagging  people at 3:00 PM in the afternoon. My driver got bagged (and passed) but the fvcker who passed us wasn't

Id say speed and dangerous driving accounts for way more deaths than drinking and driving

I don't know the stats Whitey.

But I've been saying for years that I'd much rather take my chances in a collision with a drink driver than a speeding driver.

It has become one of life's curiosities that there are now so many people who will utterly condemn the former as inexcusable, but will themselves plough through built up areas at 50mph with absolute confidence that their "skill" will trump any bad luck that comes their away.

[thewobbler]

I regularly breech the speed limit and the reason I don't I'm honest is that I know I'll never get caught. Proper policing on all roads is the key.

The police can't be everywhere all the time. But you know what tends to be everywhere all the time? Children crossing roads in built up areas. and many of them every bit as oblivious and / or uncaring as you that they're sharing that road with people who don't give a f**k.

[Captain Scarlet]

Some of the spots with sped vans are a joke
There is one near my home place coming out of a 60km limit from a roundabout.
Like you'd do well to hit that speed anyway...those vans are often in very pointless places I find.

[Ash Smoker]

Phone use while driving has to be a factor. I see tons of people looking down at their phones while driving. It's a hard one to prove though in the event of an accident.

[seafoid]

There are also things that only happen in Ireland

https://extra.ie/2023/01/16/news/simon-harris-sulky-race

[general_lee]

A nice start would be mandatory 20mph zones in all built up areas. Wales have just recently introduced something similar.

[grounded]

A nice start would be mandatory 20mph zones in all built up areas. Wales have just recently introduced something similar.

Intelligent speed assist is already installed on new vehicles.
       It wouldnt take a massive stretch of the imagination to invisage a time when vehicles entering certain speed zones will be automatically configured not to break set speed limit unless some mitigating factor.


https://www.topgear.com/car-news/future-tech/eus-new-mandatory-speed-limiter-rule-good-idea

[whitey]

Interesting stats

https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/ireland-road-safety.pdf

Given the increase in the number of cars and the number of KM driven per year, it's amazing that road deaths are 1/3 of where they were 30 years ago

For refernnce:

https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state-by-state#:~:text=Posted%20May%202023.-,Fatal%20crash%20totals,Island%20to%2026.2%20in%20Mississippi.

[seafoid]

Interesting stats

https://www.itf-oecd.org/sites/default/files/ireland-road-safety.pdf

Given the increase in the number of cars and the number of KM driven per year, it's amazing that road deaths are 1/3 of where they were 30 years ago

For refernnce:

https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state-by-state#:~:text=Posted%20May%202023.-,Fatal%20crash%20totals,Island%20to%2026.2%20in%20Mississippi.

Drink driving  would have been more of a feature them and the quality of the main roads has improved. Secondary roads still cause most deaths.