Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

[Wildweasel74]

No if counties going bck to even age groups, look at the Glen Debacle, GAA at high level never want to admit they are wrong, plus all delegates seem to be old foggies who been there for donkeys years.

[JohnDenver]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

[allseasons]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

[Keyser soze]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

You sound exactly like the type of person who sits on a committee and comes up with astoundingly stupid decisions like these without a single thought of what the negative consequences will be.

And then in the face of all evidence to the contrary continue to justify that bullshit decision with a cocktail of word nonsense such as the above.

[oakleaflad]

Can anyone tell me why they believe the even numbers is a better option? I know it's popular on twitter and the likes but the odd age groups seem to work much better for me given the transition from primary school (doesn't leave a big gap from U11.5 to U14) and the extension to U19 gives everyone at school age the ability to play underage football (U18 would mean half in last year of school would miss out). Are there obvious reasons or counterarguments to my points that i'm missing?

[allseasons]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

You sound exactly like the type of person who sits on a committee and comes up with astoundingly stupid decisions like these without a single thought of what the negative consequences will be.

And then in the face of all evidence to the contrary continue to justify that bullshit decision with a cocktail of word nonsense such as the above.

Lovely stuff there Keyser. One question for you and no BS. When would you play u18?

[Keyser soze]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

You sound exactly like the type of person who sits on a committee and comes up with astoundingly stupid decisions like these without a single thought of what the negative consequences will be.

And then in the face of all evidence to the contrary continue to justify that bullshit decision with a cocktail of word nonsense such as the above.

Lovely stuff there Keyser. One question for you and no BS. When would you play u18?

Your question merely serves to reinforce my point that from your perspective the administrators are the most important people here, not the players.

[allseasons]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

You sound exactly like the type of person who sits on a committee and comes up with astoundingly stupid decisions like these without a single thought of what the negative consequences will be.

And then in the face of all evidence to the contrary continue to justify that bullshit decision with a cocktail of word nonsense such as the above.

Lovely stuff there Keyser. One question for you and no BS. When would you play u18?

Your question merely serves to reinforce my point that from your perspective the administrators are the most important people here, not the players.

Knew i would get some BS rather than an answer. Stick to complaining about everything rather than ever coming up with a solution.

[oakleaflad]

Anybody know what the story is with young McEvoy's injury?

[Keyser soze]

Given the feeling from grass roots in the county how has there been such a landslide vote in favour of keeping the odd age groups again this year??

AFAIK it was explained that if it did go back to even grade this year, then the U18 competition would have to be finished up by June (similar timeframe to current U19 competition). This is because of the split club/county season, plus the decoupling at 17 which would allow 18 years to play Adult football.

This would mean the problem group of the 17+ year olds would still be left more or less idle after June if they aren't deemed good enough / not interested in going to Senior / Reserve.

Looking at the reaction on twitter you'd think the county board had concocted some masterplan to hoodwink everybody into voting odd this season. Goes back to even numbers next year with everybody's blessing and gives the CCC time to plan out a better fixture schedule to suit all.

U17 not really the problem as its an age group which works well when decoupled from senior. The problem is the next age group after this. If clubs are so worried about player development then they need to be willing to play in an u19/20 competition minus their players who are involved with the seniors. Moving back to u18 next year without decoupling will meerly kick the can down the road.

You sound exactly like the type of person who sits on a committee and comes up with astoundingly stupid decisions like these without a single thought of what the negative consequences will be.

And then in the face of all evidence to the contrary continue to justify that bullshit decision with a cocktail of word nonsense such as the above.

Lovely stuff there Keyser. One question for you and no BS. When would you play u18?

Your question merely serves to reinforce my point that from your perspective the administrators are the most important people here, not the players.

Knew i would get some BS rather than an answer. Stick to complaining about everything rather than ever coming up with a solution.

A solution to what? The clusterf**k that the GAA created?

Here's the solution, stop making nonsense kneejerk decisions without giving some thought what the consequences might be.

[allseasons]

So still no answer keyser just more and more avoidance and BS Wasn't really expecting much more from someone who's first instinct was to judge and insult.
For what it's worth I would be in favour of a move to the u18 grade if it was possible to find an appropriate place for in the calendar.

[Silver hill]

If u18 was introduced this year instead of u17s, would one not just replace the other in the calendar or am I missing something here?

[tbrick18]

Guys anyone know the status of McKinless and Mcevoy? Odds of them being involved this weekend?

[Silver hill]

Guys anyone know the status of McKinless and Mcevoy? Odds of them being involved this weekend?

I'm a fan of Gareth and his explosive style of play, however, watched him in club championship v Lavey  at latter end of last year and a few games for Derry this year and he's a shadow of the player he was. Must be carrying an injury? Is he waiting on an op?