Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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Mickey Harte, Gavin Devlin, Ronan O'Neill, Paul McFlynn, Enda Muldoon, Ronan Gallgher and Matt Godfrey (S&C)

Meenagh gone to down

[jmcgdoire]

Got too many bad memories rewatched Derry v Donegal 2006 other nite and Derry v Monaghan 2007, last night. Christ we were poor, the players they had then, probably better than now, and we only got a league title to show for it. Tactics was non-existant, with always 5/6 different players always injured each year. What Mickey Harte had done with that team if he been over it at thd time. !!

These players we had at the time were so good they couldn't put back to two wins together in the ulster championship over how many years.  Yes I agree a highly talented bunch      The kicker line was, and I nearly pissed myself laughing when you when you came with the 'probably better then now'       feck me how daft can you you be. A group of players who couldn't put one 'back to back win' in Ulster verses a team double Ulster winning team who missed qualifying for the All Ireland final this year by hair.      Have you tried stand up comedy yet?

Reign it in. Wildweasel is saying just what youve said. The team were underachievers. Youd be mad to question the talent of the individuals playing then. Those teams of the mid-00s boasted 4 all-star winners Paddy Bradley, SM Lockhart, Kevin McCloy and big Enda Muldoon. Then you still have skinner, Mark Lynch, Deets, Gerard O'kane. I could go on. If they were handled as well as this current squad that team wouldve lifted Sam.

[Wildweasel74]

Ciaran Meenagh ending up in Down, some spin for a teacher. Was he even offered the Derry Job which I thought he was ?

[shawshank]

Got too many bad memories rewatched Derry v Donegal 2006 other nite and Derry v Monaghan 2007, last night. Christ we were poor, the players they had then, probably better than now, and we only got a league title to show for it. Tactics was non-existant, with always 5/6 different players always injured each year. What Mickey Harte had done with that team if he been over it at thd time. !!

These players we had at the time were so good they couldn't put back to two wins together in the ulster championship over how many years.  Yes I agree a highly talented bunch      The kicker line was, and I nearly pissed myself laughing when you when you came with the 'probably better then now'       feck me how daft can you you be. A group of players who couldn't put one 'back to back win' in Ulster verses a team double Ulster winning team who missed qualifying for the All Ireland final this year by hair.      Have you tried stand up comedy yet?

Reign it in. Wildweasel is saying just what youve said. The team were underachievers. Youd be mad to question the talent of the individuals playing then. Those teams of the mid-00s boasted 4 all-star winners Paddy Bradley, SM Lockhart, Kevin McCloy and big Enda Muldoon. Then you still have skinner, Mark Lynch, Deets, Gerard O'kane. I could go on. If they were handled as well as this current squad that team wouldve lifted Sam.

You now have said that a team that couldn't put two games back to back in Ulster from 2003-2011 would have lifted Sam. deluded, and furthermore to add Deets into that group of players you named is dead pan not funny. Top club player yes, county, just a run of the mill decent player at best.

[InnocentByStander]

Ciaran Meenagh ending up in Down, some spin for a teacher. Was he even offered the Derry Job which I thought he was ?

Heard he isnt back in the school, Down must be playing well.

Only a rumour tho so god knows

[Estimator]

Ciaran Meenagh ending up in Down, some spin for a teacher. Was he even offered the Derry Job which I thought he was ?

Heard he isnt back in the school, Down must be playing well.

Only a rumour tho so god knows

Heard that rumour, but he is definitely still in his teaching job in St Colm's.

[tbrick18]

Got too many bad memories rewatched Derry v Donegal 2006 other nite and Derry v Monaghan 2007, last night. Christ we were poor, the players they had then, probably better than now, and we only got a league title to show for it. Tactics was non-existant, with always 5/6 different players always injured each year. What Mickey Harte had done with that team if he been over it at thd time. !!

These players we had at the time were so good they couldn't put back to two wins together in the ulster championship over how many years.  Yes I agree a highly talented bunch      The kicker line was, and I nearly pissed myself laughing when you when you came with the 'probably better then now'       feck me how daft can you you be. A group of players who couldn't put one 'back to back win' in Ulster verses a team double Ulster winning team who missed qualifying for the All Ireland final this year by hair.      Have you tried stand up comedy yet?

Reign it in. Wildweasel is saying just what youve said. The team were underachievers. Youd be mad to question the talent of the individuals playing then. Those teams of the mid-00s boasted 4 all-star winners Paddy Bradley, SM Lockhart, Kevin McCloy and big Enda Muldoon. Then you still have skinner, Mark Lynch, Deets, Gerard O'kane. I could go on. If they were handled as well as this current squad that team wouldve lifted Sam.

You now have said that a team that couldn't put two games back to back in Ulster from 2003-2011 would have lifted Sam. deluded, and furthermore to add Deets into that group of players you named is dead pan not funny. Top club player yes, county, just a run of the mill decent player at best.

Looking at the 2006 team vs Donegal, we had top drawer players.
Team: Barry Gillis, K McGuckin, K McCloy, F McEldowney, L Hinphey, P McFlynn, J O'Kane, J McBride, J Diver, M Lynch, B McGoldrick, F Doherty, E Muldoon, P Bradley, E Bradley.

That team had Allstars, minor all ireland winners and a schools/club honors.
Keven McGuckin and Kevin McCloy were as good as anything in the country. McFlynn and McBride were excellent. Mark Lynch, Muldoon and the Bradleys would have made any team and Paddy Bradley is one of the all time star Derry forwards.
Not forgetting Fergal Doherty who was probably the best midfielder in the country for about 3 or 4 years (I remember him taking Ciaran Whelan to the cleaners and Whelan got an allstar).

We had the players.
Undoubtedly we underachieved. But when you look at the setups in Tyrone/Armagh/Kerry in the noughties, we were nowhere close in terms of management personnel, tactics, investment and county board.
I too believe that with some better decision making at that top level, there was an AI in that group of players.

[jmcgdoire]

Got too many bad memories rewatched Derry v Donegal 2006 other nite and Derry v Monaghan 2007, last night. Christ we were poor, the players they had then, probably better than now, and we only got a league title to show for it. Tactics was non-existant, with always 5/6 different players always injured each year. What Mickey Harte had done with that team if he been over it at thd time. !!

These players we had at the time were so good they couldn't put back to two wins together in the ulster championship over how many years.  Yes I agree a highly talented bunch      The kicker line was, and I nearly pissed myself laughing when you when you came with the 'probably better then now'       feck me how daft can you you be. A group of players who couldn't put one 'back to back win' in Ulster verses a team double Ulster winning team who missed qualifying for the All Ireland final this year by hair.      Have you tried stand up comedy yet?

Reign it in. Wildweasel is saying just what youve said. The team were underachievers. Youd be mad to question the talent of the individuals playing then. Those teams of the mid-00s boasted 4 all-star winners Paddy Bradley, SM Lockhart, Kevin McCloy and big Enda Muldoon. Then you still have skinner, Mark Lynch, Deets, Gerard O'kane. I could go on. If they were handled as well as this current squad that team wouldve lifted Sam.

You now have said that a team that couldn't put two games back to back in Ulster from 2003-2011 would have lifted Sam. deluded, and furthermore to add Deets into that group of players you named is dead pan not funny. Top club player yes, county, just a run of the mill decent player at best.

Are you being intentionally dense?

This is very simple. Im saying that the squad of players/individuals back then were just as talented as this current bunch. So why didnt they win? I dont know. Management? Continuity? Culture? Lack of interest/investment from players? Perhaps all 4! But not the quality of the players.

So dont sit there and try tell me that Shane McGuigan is better than Paddy Bradley or that Eoin McEvoy compares to Kevin McCloy. And as for your deets comment you're just making my own point again for me. He was a top quality player and anyone who ever seen him play for Ballinderry knows that.

[bannside]

What would Derry do now for a few Paddy Bradley's or Conleith Gilligan, or Skinner for that matter. Forwards like that are as hard to find as golddust.

[rrhf]

From memory the Derry faithful were inclined to give Skinner and Paddy plenty of stick when playing for Derry. Maybe that perception is incorrect?
I think the Derry problem started after 94 and was never truly healed.  The respect MM gets throughout Ireland....  Do you feel he has yet to receive that in Derry or are there people too bitter still? More than putting items like these on Mickey Harte's plate or any other managers.  These are issue the Derry people can resolve and need to resolve themselves to become a serious power. Both you and I know what will likely happen if the new regime fails get off to a flyer. The man is seriously determined to win an all Ireland and no stone will be left unturned.  Go easy...

[Newbridge Exile]

So after The Loup's win tonight it's Loup v Coleraine and Ballinderry v Swatragh in the play offs

[smort]

So after The Loup's win tonight it's Loup v Coleraine and Ballinderry v Swatragh in the play offs

Is it the loser of each goes down?

[Newbridge Exile]

So after The Loup's win tonight it's Loup v Coleraine and Ballinderry v Swatragh in the play offs

Is it the loser of each goes down?

Yep losers play intermediate championship next year

[DuffleKing]

What would Derry do now for a few Paddy Bradley's or Conleith Gilligan, or Skinner for that matter. Forwards like that are as hard to find as golddust.

Gilligan was a super club player but I never would have classed him in a category anywhere near the Bradleys, Mark Lynch, Muldoon, O'Kane, McFlynn and a whole lot more in county terms.

[bannside]

All about opinions DK. Ballinderry knew how to get the best out of Gilligan (and Colie Devlin too) in a way Derry didn't. All great players there tbf...