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QuoteSeriously lads, McCloskey shuld have no input beyond fitness

Quote from: Stmalachy on October 13, 2007, 10:02:53 AM
Eoin Brown is from Bellaghy and has done nothing to merit the rave attention which he is getting. Tomorrow is the first decent team they have played all year. The other boy, never heard tell of him so how Mccloskey knows about him ??? ??? ???

Quote from: Doire abú on October 13, 2007, 10:50:52 PM
Would personally rate Seán Leo McGoldrick ahead of Ciarán.

Quote from: Kentucky Blue on October 15, 2007, 02:06:23 PM
Eoin Brown would deserve a crack alright IMO.

Was Ciaran McGoldrick playing for coleraine against Newbridge a couple of weeks ago in Intermediate semi-final before the bellaghy-dungiven match?

McCloskey was linked with Chelsea FC and a couple of english rugby clubs, possibly Wasps if i remind right. So he must be doing something right.

Quote from: screenmachine on October 17, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
it might already be picked tbrick. I'd guess paddy crozier would have it at this stage, try him... :D

Quote from: halfway on September 28, 2010, 01:52:08 PM
Who will win the JFC trophy in 2010?

Quote from: TransitVanMan on October 18, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

Quote from: bigball on October 18, 2013, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: TransitVanMan on October 18, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

I would very much doubt that you're a Glen man as your posts show you have serious issues with the club!

Also please get your facts right - Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.

Quote from: screenexile on October 18, 2013, 05:43:54 PM

Quote from: bigball on October 18, 2013, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: TransitVanMan on October 18, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

I would very much doubt that you're a Glen man as your posts show you have serious issues with the club!

Also please get your facts right - Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.

Ah here do you not think the player in question posting a photo of the incident was the main factor in the suspension?!

Quote from: bigball on October 18, 2013, 04:09:03 PM

Quote from: TransitVanMan on October 18, 2013, 02:48:56 PM
Quite frankly I'm embarrassed for our club.

Considering what we have been excused this year, to turn around and petition for sanction against other players is hypocritical to say the least!!

I would very much doubt that you're a Glen man as your posts show you have serious issues with the club!

Also please get your facts right - Glen club have made no petition for sanction and have never been in contact with the the county board or CCC re. the Duffy incident. That's not to say any tears have been shed on his suspension.

Quote from: greenlight on September 17, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 16, 2017, 08:10:25 PM
Would be concerned about tomorrow if team that is selected starts

Quote from: greenlight on September 17, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

Quote from: greenlight on September 17, 2017, 09:20:01 PM
Should senior players who excluded themselves from the panel this year as a result of not liking the manager be allowed back next year?

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

Quote from: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

Quote from: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 07:08:20 PM

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

I can't speak for all the lads who played but I know most of them would not have seen that as a championship final. It was seen more of a punishment for coming last in the league-  a system which unfortunately for eoghan rua does not favour a dual club with a very small selection of players to choose from and who struggle to field while football is still ongoing.

Eoghan rua are in an unfavourable position for the next few years in hurling. They have nothing to play for. Surely this system needs rethought?

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 09:20:08 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 09:20:08 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 09:42:39 PM

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 09:20:08 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

Did you say good defence---we conceded 6-17,we had no cover in defence at all and with alot of our players in the attacking half we could only score 1-8.
Lets call it as it should be, we were terrible in our shape,selection,fitness levels etc etc etc and really it was embarrassing.
I believe the team was in town this evening and got a very warm reception which they deserved but the game was over before it really had started.If Clifford had have being handled better we had as good of players as the rest of the kerry lads.And leaving young Brown on the bench for most of the year,enough said

Can you double check before commenting. For the third goal, Clifford was being harrassed and forced away from goal by good defence, hope that's clearer.
Derry won and Ulster title, beating Tyrone, Antrim and Cavan, beat Sligo in the QF, then the Leinster Champs in the semi final, all with Brown playing his part from the bench. If he started the game the result would still have been the same.
One bad result is not a disaster. Very disappointing for the players and management, but something that should clearly stand to them in the future.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on September 18, 2017, 06:55:57 PM

Quote from: tonysoprano on September 18, 2017, 06:47:11 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 18, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
Kerry were outstanding on the day, everything seemed to work for them.  Despite the scoreline they still left 2 or 3 goal opportunities behind them.  If the game was played another 10 times, I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry won all 10.
With 11mins played Derry had the momentum after score 3points on the bounce to leave a single point between the sides.
10mins later and there is 11 points between the sides.  Clifford's second goal where he had 2/3 men hanging off him yet still managed to score a goal.  The third goal.. Clifford was being forced away from the goals by good defence, but still he managed to pick out the runner and it was game over.
Derry could have played more defensively, they could've had 5 sweepers, they could have double marked Clifford.  All it would have done was kept the scoreline down.  We still wouldn't have won it.  And the comments would be about Derry ruining the game and having a go at the tactics.
The thing that stood out for me was the speed of the Kerry players. There was a couple of things that stood out.  One of the Kerry players soloing up the pitch was moving away from the defender trying to chase him.  When it happened the other way around, the Derry players were easily caught.  On the 4th goal from the other Clifford, his run was being tracked even though he was going at a decent pace, but then he quicken for 5/10yrds to completely destroy his man.

Regardless of the result.  In the last 3 years Derry have won 2 Ulster minor titles and played in an All Ireland final.  Which for a county like Derry is a decent return. 
On the Coleraine lads, would you rather the chance of winning a prestigious All-Ireland Club title or an Intermediate county title?
On the exiles, anyone who wants to play for Derry should be given the opportunity to impress the new management.

It was actually junior. I don't blame the lads for playing in the sevens. Because they won Ulster junior two years ago they were unable to progress to Ulster junior this year. The final against na magha was pointless. Win or lose na magha would progress to Ulster. If it was an intermediate or senior championship match the boys most definitely would have played.

All the best to na magha lavey and slaughtneil in Ulster.

If you were one of those young lads not in the  elite athletic group in Coleraine surely you would feel badly let down though.  At the end of the day The Kilmacuds is a 7s competition for clubs who have been knocked out of their own championships and want a piss up in Dublin.  Don't think they would have been there had screen not beat them.

The dates for championship were set months ago. If eoghan rua wanted to play intermediate they shouldn't have finished last in the league.

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:43:18 PM
The 3rd goal was down to exceptional vision from one of the very best!  Put it down to a great pass under pressure!

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 18, 2017, 10:02:24 PM
What Kerry beat Cavan by; 10 or so; what we beat Cavan by 6 or 7, should there been the sheer gulf in class between the 2 teams;  Cavan got over run by Kerry but didnt give away the goal feast we did even though Clifford scored 1-08 from play! Tactically we were bloody terrible:  Cassidy a maccrory cup captain who better than either half back not on and Brown should been on the starting team, and play defensive; result be the same but not a record hammering in a final!

Quote from: cornerback on September 18, 2017, 10:41:41 PM

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Quote from: Dire Ear on September 19, 2017, 09:58:22 AM

Quote from: cornerback on September 18, 2017, 10:41:41 PM

Quote from: Mountain Gael on September 18, 2017, 10:14:50 PM
Sorry,but how was he able to lift his head and pick out a foot pass if he was being harrassed and tackled so well

Probably because he's David Clifford!!

Are the 2 Cliffords related?

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Quote from: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM

Quote from: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

Quote from: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 11:55:59 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM

Quote from: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 12:17:13 PM

Quote from: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 11:55:59 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM

Quote from: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Quote from: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 12:29:17 PM

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 12:17:13 PM

Quote from: toby47 on September 20, 2017, 11:55:59 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on September 20, 2017, 11:45:46 AM

Quote from: greenlight on September 20, 2017, 11:20:34 AM

Quote from: toby47 on September 19, 2017, 12:48:31 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on September 19, 2017, 12:13:06 PM
After the steep learning curve of the disappointment of Derry's comprehensive   All Ireland Minor defeat, no doubt Damian McErlain and his management team will have realised the futility of persisting with a game plan which does not include the presence of a sweeper or the concept of a top player(albeit a phenomenally physically developed and extraordinarily talented individual in the case of David Clifford) being double - marked in the modern game.

That said and that harsh lesson undoubtedly learned I have no doubt that both Damian and his Minor players will bounce back  to replicate the magnificent individual and team performances that they have cumulatively given over the course of the last three years.The talent both on and off the field is definitely there.Their biggest tactical challenge is to learn from the mistakes of the past and to adapt accordingly.

Players like Conor McCluskey,Oisin and Lorcan McWilliams,Callum Brown,Declan Cassidy( surprisingly not given much game time during the minor campaign),Paddy Quigg and Padraig McGrogan are only some of the players from this year's minor squad who have the ability to develop into top class Senior inter county players.Others when they develop physically have the skill sets to join them.

So despite the mistakes of last Sunday Damian McErlain has  restored pride and confidence in Derry football again.Everyone will wish him well as he attempts  to ensure that all the best players will be available for inter county Senior duty when he announces his new panel in the coming weeks.

By the way  does anyone know when  the County Board will announce the management teams for Derry's U17 and U20 teams for next year?

Any idea who could get these jobs?

Seamus Downey has done great work with Lavey underage and should surely be considered.

would a Magherafelt player go near it if that was the case, and I am not trying to be smart either.

It would be bad form for Magherafelt player to turn down the chance to represent their county because the manager of a rival is taking the team. That sort of bickering should be left at club level.

On a side note - Enda Quinn (Magherafelt's main underage manager the past 4/5 years) has won twice what Seamus Downey has won at underage level the past few years. Saying that he seems to stick to the u12-16 age groups as I don't recall him taking a minor team? Open to correction though

Would you describe it as bickering, has it not moved beyond that? Total disrespect is a more accurate description?

Magherafelt and Lavey seem to be forming a rivalry from underage up, however if it would be the wrong stance to take to not play for your county because Seamus Downey is in charge. Whether it be bickering, fighting, disrespect or whatever you want to call it

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 20, 2017, 10:50:39 PM
Typical townies. Fill the togs when it comes to the championship

Quote from: cornerback on September 21, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
So do Screen have any chance on Sunday? We are certainly up against it but we'll have to perform to our absolute maximum.
Of course they have a chance albeit a small one in my opinion.  Bookies have it over 3-1 for Screen which I'd agree with

We need a similar performance to the first half against Coleraine & will probably need a couple of goals to win.
I'd say the opposite; keeping a clean sheet against Slaughtneil is more important as they are extremely difficult to beat once they're able to get a few points ahead.  They tend to get goals at crucial times so being able to prevent this is imperative if Screen are to see the game out

Chrissy McKaigue probably needs to be man-marked. He is currently their only genuine top notch player (i.e. he would make most/all county teams) but they have a plethora of quality throughout the team.
Agreed that he is their strongest player but they have several men that can carry from deep and get on the end of scores.  Not necessarily man marked but forwards need to be well aware of tracking their men as they go up the field

The defensive set up doesn't work against Slaughtneil, they've shown time & time again that they have the patience & quality to counteract it & eke out the win.
The real difference in the possession game that Slaughtneil play compared to other teams is in their ability to win the free in a scorable area

Hoping for a good game.... or I'd even take a miserable game with a Screen victory 😜
It's only my opinion but Screen won't win a good quality game against Slaughtneil.  I'd expect a fairly dour affair, but as with all finals it's only the result that matters

Quote from: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Quote from: Low and Hard on September 22, 2017, 03:22:14 PM

Quote from: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Quote from: Low and Hard on September 22, 2017, 03:22:14 PM

Quote from: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Quote from: lenny on September 22, 2017, 03:34:43 PM

Quote from: Low and Hard on September 22, 2017, 03:22:14 PM

Quote from: southderryman on September 22, 2017, 03:06:36 PM
Lads is it a double header at Celtic park on Sunday?

I've checked online and in the Irish news and can only see the senior game down for 3.30

I know it's usually a double header and I see the programme has the intermediate teams on it too but I can't see the fixture listed anywhere?

Ballinderry and Callan Gaels play in the minor B2 final before.

Callan Gaels? Where's that?

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 22, 2017, 08:18:33 PM
I see locations for fixtures in the county hasn't improved any

Doire Trasna v Ogra on at Fauganvale, whats that 9 mile for the city team and 40+ mile for Ogra
hows that work?

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 23, 2017, 05:31:31 PM
Wonder will the county board review the video of that Doire Trasna -Ogra game with the Ogra Goalkeeper getting attacked by a supporter taking a kick out, then numerous Doire Trasna supporters entering the field during the melee that followed, Doire Trasna should be kicked out of the championship and club suspended. Disgraceful stuff and there no excuse from the county board as its all on video.

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on September 24, 2017, 12:41:05 AM
Any stats on this bannside or are ye just talkin out yer hole

Quote from: theticklemister on September 24, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on September 24, 2017, 07:53:48 PM

Quote from: theticklemister on September 24, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
Is it fairto say Swatragh are the second best team in the county?

Yes.

In the same way Derry are the third best team in the country.

Quote from: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:59:36 AM
Well summed up Link.

Really feel for our lads because they could never get into the game and show what they could do.

Thought our tactics were lacking, and the sweeper system didn't work effectively.

However, there's no doubt that the better team won. Slaughtneil were seriously good from start to finish. A level above Screen and anyone else I've seen this year. I was so impressed with them.

Clinical, disciplined, focused, well conditioned. Hard to see anyone beating them any time soon.

Sammy, the McKaigue's, Rodgers et al were fantastic, and played their roles perfectly.

Twin, Patsy and Round Head were steadying the ship all game too with some really smart play.

Not to mention the talent coming off the Slaughtneil bench, most of whom would start on any club team in Ulster imo.

Then you have Moran overseeing proceedings, and it completes the perfect jigsaw.

Thought the referee was a joke with some of his decisions against Screen. But this didn't contribute to the result.

Best of luck to Slaughtneil in Ulster, they look even better than last year and will take some stopping.

Quote from: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S'neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and 'Screen were on the back foot already.  S'neil's mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for 'Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, 'Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness 'Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought 'Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan's save from the penalty was excellent, and although 'Screen's goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn't used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S'neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S'neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don't think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S'neil are worthy Champions, they've a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it's a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S'neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S'neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S'neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring 'Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn't really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn't suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

Quote from: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 12:55:33 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S'neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and 'Screen were on the back foot already.  S'neil's mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for 'Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, 'Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness 'Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought 'Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan's save from the penalty was excellent, and although 'Screen's goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn't used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S'neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S'neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don't think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S'neil are worthy Champions, they've a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it's a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S'neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S'neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S'neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring 'Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn't really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn't suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Quote from: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 12:55:33 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S'neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and 'Screen were on the back foot already.  S'neil's mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for 'Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, 'Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness 'Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought 'Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan's save from the penalty was excellent, and although 'Screen's goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn't used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S'neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S'neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don't think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S'neil are worthy Champions, they've a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it's a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S'neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S'neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S'neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring 'Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn't really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn't suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Quote from: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Quote from: JoG2 on September 25, 2017, 01:44:57 PM

Quote from: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?

Quote from: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 01:26:56 PM

Quote from: Glenman93 on September 25, 2017, 12:55:33 PM

Quote from: Estimator on September 25, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
Game Watch
S'neil were excellent throughout. 4 points inside the first 6 minutes set the tone and 'Screen were on the back foot already.  S'neil's mobility, pace and power all over the pitch, but especially in the middle third, was too much for 'Screen.  Their support play and running off the ball was excellent, 'Screen found it difficult to cope.  In fairness 'Screen got back to within 2 points with about 20mins gone.  The 2nd goal, did a lot of damage.  And by half time a 7point lead did look extremely difficult to turnaround.

It really was game over just after half time, I thought 'Screen could have dealt with the goal a bit better.  Anything after that point was really just seeing the game out.  McMullan's save from the penalty was excellent, and although 'Screen's goal came shortly after that, there is no way the 4th goal should have been conceded.

There was some excellent battles over the course of the game – Heron/Rogers and McWilliams/Feeney, were the two best.  Brendan Herron was v influential for a good part of the game. McWilliams was doing a lot of the heavy lifting in and around midfield.  Anton probably wasn't used as much as he should have been, he was in ff for about 15mins before anything was kicked in high.

Screen caused some problems with the rotational positions in the forward line.  There was an occasion were the closest S'neil man should have picked up Mulgrew (stand side), KMcK who was his marker, was on the terrace side covering someone else and the players decided to make the switch leaving Mulgrew free and McKaigue to cover a lot of ground to pick him up.  Of course the ball was kicked into Mulgrew for an easy possession.

S'neil will be delighted with the performance.  4-12 is excellent scoring, though they will be disappointed with a couple of poor choices in shot selection in the second half.  4-16 was probably achievable.  They could have emptied the subs bench a bit more, I don't think they introduce a sub until the last 10mins or so.

From the stats after the game, its interesting to see that they are quite similar across the board, apart from the scores.  34 v 30 attacks, 24 v 24 shots, 7 v 8 wides, Kickouts won 21 v 21, Turn overs 12 v 13.

S'neil are worthy Champions, they've a tough run (from the prelim) through Ulster starting with Kilcoo or Burren and then the Tyrone Champs.  Keep the main men fit and flying and they could certainly go one better than last year.

Ref Watch
1.Penalty incidents in the first half.  Twice in quick succession, Anton was just barged in the back with no intent on playing the ball.  If that happened on a kick out it's a free, plain and simple.

2.Philly Bradley was given a free in the first half for minimal contact, it was around head height, but there was nothing in it.  No calls from the players or crowd.  Very soft

3.In the second half Dermot McBride blocked a quick free, right under the nose of Mullan, but he refused to bring it forward.

4.The ball was played up the line to the S'neil corner forward, he fouled the Screen defender coming out with the ball, no free, play on.  S'neil man retained possession and was clearly fouled by the Screen defender, no free, play on.

5.Carlus playing a long ball into the ff line in the second half was hit as he was kicking it in.  Normally a free where the ball lands, nothing given.

6.Black Cards – there was a couple of drag downs, Feeney on Heron stands out for me, but there was a more than that.

Mullan had no impact on the scoreline.  He was very poor all over.  The S'neil contingent around us were convinced that he was favouring 'Screen in the first half.  His poor performance and inaction could easily have led to a row breaking out.  He looked like a man that couldn't really be bothered refereeing.  I certainly wouldn't suggest in any way that there was bias to either side.

So Slaughtneil were worthy champions but it was the refs fault??

Just point out where I said it was the Ref's fault.
In the next paragraph I said that he had no impact on the scoreline.
Points 2,3 and 4 were fouls/decisions that went against S'neil.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 25, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Quote from: Uncle Phil on September 25, 2017, 08:51:17 PM

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 25, 2017, 05:26:05 PM
Just a case of Draperstown shiting in the nest again. In their favour you have to give them credit for getting to a county final with the players they have. The referee in the semi final against Glen and yesterday was very biased towards Slaughtneil. Over and out

Glistening summary from an informed and clearly well educated, football man.

An alternative view - maybe it was a case of being outclassed and well beaten by one of the best club sides of our generation?

I don't know if you were at the game, but it clearly wasn't a contest. Slaughtneil were magnificent.

Maybe Bellaghy could have made a game of it.

That's right, we hammered them in the first round - the absolute shitbags.

I actually feel sorry for you. Every time you're on here, you're having a go at Screen.

Just imagine how nice a life you would have if you let go of all the bitterness.

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 27, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 27, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Quote from: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

Quote from: drillsergeant on October 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Quote from: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 02:16:54 PM

Quote from: drillsergeant on October 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)

Quote from: paddyjohn on October 07, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.

Quote from: paddyjohn on October 07, 2017, 10:39:35 PM
Disgusting and appalling scenes. Kick both clubs out of adult competition for a season.

Quote from: 36-03-09 on October 08, 2017, 09:17:03 PM
When Ballinderry can beat officials and cry their way out of a punishment, do you think there'll be any meaningful consequence here? Bunch of savages, backed by a spineless board.

Quote from: toby47 on October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 09, 2017, 09:18:05 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?

Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

Quote from: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM

Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It'll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren't on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Quote from: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM

Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It'll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren't on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM

Quote from: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM

Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It'll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren't on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 10:24:36 AM

Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM

Quote from: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM

Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It'll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren't on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 11:41:32 AM
Re the make up of the new Derry Senior football panel maybe, like what some of our previous managers did, Damian McErlain has selected a Provisional panel of some experienced players mixed with a large coterie of U21 players for pre season and McKenna Cup purposes. Then like them he picks a more stable panel which includes all the best players in the County for the League.

If that is not the case and Heavron,Kielt  Heron and others are not selected on a permanent basis then there will be a lot of difficult questions to be answered.

Either way for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football Damian has to issue a statement announcing his intentions for the coming season.Players officials and supporters do not need any more uncertainty re our Senior football team. We need a clear unambiguous plan which includes ALL of our best players,  irrespective of age and previous unavailability, playing again for our county.We have suffered long enough.

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

don't know how an starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Quote from: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 02:37:15 PM

Quote from: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 10, 2017, 04:06:51 PM
Before this uncertainty,real or imagined,gets further out of hand re the new Derry football panel,provisional or otherwise,  Damian McErlain needs to explain immediately where this whole process is at.If that is done then we can at least make a realistic judgment call of where exactly he and his management team see the future of all the best players in the County.

Our players and supporters deserve  at least to know what their plans are.
Hopefully it is only a lack of proper communication which has created  all of this uncertainty.

As a successful  minor manager Damian was renowned for his communication and man-management skills.

Let us hope that the future of our Senior team under his stewardship will display that same unity of purpose where all of our best players are part of the new set-up( at least eventually).

Quote from: Estimator on October 11, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say "I told you so", if it does go wrong, and then they'll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn't at the first meeting and why I'm not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally...

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Quote from: allseasons on October 11, 2017, 12:50:35 PM

Quote from: Estimator on October 11, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say "I told you so", if it does go wrong, and then they'll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn't at the first meeting and why I'm not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally...

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Best post in a long time  :)
so many pretending to be behind the new management. Give them a chance and trust them to do the right things.

Quote from: theticklemister on October 12, 2017, 12:05:57 AM
For fucksake lads; it was only a Junior stand fight , not a punch was on target. The fighting in the other games were reserve standard.

Quote from: Estimator on October 11, 2017, 09:53:23 AM
There has been some amount of over-reaction to one team meeting, and the apparent notion that these will be the only players considered for the Championship in 8mnths time.  As a previous poster has stated – its October. The management team has only been in place since the minor final, just over 3 weeks ago, and already the Warriors are out in force. 

Its like they want to be fit to say "I told you so", if it does go wrong, and then they'll be able to quote themselves from October and give themselves a pat on the back as they got it right long before a ball was kicked in anger.
There has been some list of demands already, Posters wanted a full run down of the lads at the first meeting of the year.  Posters want statements issued from the management for the sake of the stability and future of Derry football!?!

So here is my list of demands from the new Derry management:
1.   A personal phone call to explain why I wasn't at the first meeting and why I'm not require this year.
2.   A personal profile of each and every member of the initial panel. Plus 5 reasons why they were selected ahead of others.
3.   A explanation of their views on the Colm Cooper testimonial.
4.   A complete training schedule, including but not limited to:
        a.   Individual training plans
        b.   When/Where the gym work is taking place
        c.   The drills that will be done on the pitch. (including sketches/drawings)
5.   A thesis on where county matches should take place.  Should we continue with Owenbeg/Celtic Park, or should we   
        take the games around the county.
6.   A total rundown of their tactical plans, including but not limited to:
        a.   Are we going to play with a sweeper?
        b.   Who is going to play this role?
        c.   Will we play with 3 in the ff line? Give reasons
        d.   Will we set up in the same way for every game?
        e.   How do you see the role of the goalkeeper? Will there be rotation in the position during pre-season?
7.   A comment regarding the awful pinky coloured jersey that Derry had to wear 14/15years ago.

And finally...

8.   I would like an input on who is going to be captain and vice-captain for the current season.
     

I hope the management team deal with this as soon as possible.

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 07:30:25 PM

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 07:30:25 PM

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 06:48:15 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!

Quote from: lenny on October 14, 2017, 07:52:38 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 07:30:25 PM

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 14, 2017, 06:51:47 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

Well done to our lads today! Well worth their victory.

Bellaghy fall at the last hurdle, a repeat of 2005.

Best of luck to Screen in Ulster!

Nothing beats winning with your friends.

The behaviour of some of your management team as Bellaghy tried to take an equalising free was totally unacceptable and a Screen player also walked right into the freetaker's face, sledging him as he went.  How the free was not brought forward is a mystery. Referee was an absolute disgrace, out of his depth, so a somewhat hollow victory for Screen unfortunately, as Bellaghy also missed two penalties and played last quarter with 14 due to more ref-interference from Screen sideline. Screen gave a better team performance than Bellaghy on the day and won in the end but Screen won no extra friends today with some of their antics, a minority, but grown men who should know better.

Bellaghy players or management don't need any lessons in sledging. They were up to their usual antics in the semifinal against us. Glad to see Screen beat them today and not that surprised. I always thought screen had the better players out of the 2 teams and better team players.

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 07:54:22 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 06:48:15 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!

it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 08:21:56 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 07:54:22 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 14, 2017, 06:48:15 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 14, 2017, 04:44:38 PM
Awaiting the result from the minor championship final to see if the revolution in Bellaghy has started. Draperstown could never beat the Tones-could they TFAL? That would be embarrassing. That would take years to recover from

If you were still waiting for the result at 4.44, time to move out your time zone!

it was a said with a hint of sarcasm because when I seen the result I knew TFAL wouldn't be seen on this board for months because of the fool he's made himself into. He was already a tube,now he's a fool. Congratulations to Ballinascreen,you have helped this thread. PS I had to laugh at you're last comment on here when you blame the referee whilst admitting Bellaghy had been awarded 2 penalty. 2 penalties that were missed-lol

Clearly you can't spell but not being able to read is a huge disadvantage. If TFAL is never again on the board it will be too soon. It still does not alter what unfolded today.

Quote from: DERRYSFINEST on October 14, 2017, 09:03:53 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

Quote from: screenexile on October 14, 2017, 09:30:10 PM

Quote from: DERRYSFINEST on October 14, 2017, 09:03:53 PM
Typical Swatragh, gloating on others misfortunes. Spent money on a minor set up, McGurn and Crozier and still mocking Bellaghy foe losing. Brave heart, you epitomise Swatragh, nobodies!

Bellaghy, typical arrogance. "Special group". What has that group won? 12s and 14s? This big blue bus might have missed a few stops.

I thought Bellaghy won U16 as well did they not?

Quote from: left peg on October 16, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

Quote from: JohnDenver on October 16, 2017, 08:55:11 AM

Quote from: left peg on October 16, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

Quote from: cornerback on October 16, 2017, 10:37:12 AM

Quote from: JohnDenver on October 16, 2017, 08:55:11 AM

Quote from: left peg on October 16, 2017, 08:17:08 AM
Went down to the SN kilcoo game today and would love to say that I'm surprised but unfortunately not, the tactics the kikcoo management had in instructing their players to do almost anything outside the rules of the game were disgusting. Kilcoo were lucky not to have 4 or 5 men red carded and I can only say it's a god send that Paul McIver is staying with kilcoo until they win an Ulster title as it'll keep him away from the Derry job for a very long time!

Slaughtneil were as poor as I've seen them probably since their first outing this year but still had too much for the down champions, in saying that if kilcoo had have scored their penalty it could have been a very different result. On the penalty issue the referee had indicated he was allowing for advantage after a foul outside the area then within the advantage time frame there was a foul committed inside the area. It's of my understanding it should have been brought back for the initial foul as you can't blow for a second foul whilst allowing advantage, can anyone shed any light on this matter?

I'm almost sure if that was the case, then the correct decision was made to award the penalty. I think there was a similar issue discussed widely in the AI final, where Mayo should have been awarded a penalty during a period of advantage.

From the referee handbook
"If, during the advantage period, another foul is committed against the team which received the original advantage, then a free kick/puck will be awarded for the "second" foul if it is considered more advantageous than the original."

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 16, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
As we patiently await the draw for the 2018 Ulster Senior football championship next Thursday night I thought that I would engage in some crystal ball gazing and select the team that I would like to see representing Derry in the first round.Of course in this ideal situation no one is injured and all of our best players want to play and the selectors want to pick them!!

                                               Ben McKinless
Niall Keenan                           Brendan Rogers                     Dermot McBride
Liam McGoldrick                      Chris McKaigue                      Sean Leo McGoldrick
                              Conor McAtamney           Emmett Bradley
Ciaran McFaul                         Danny Heavron (capt)                     Enda Lynn
Benny Heron                          Terence O'Brien                      Niall Loughlin

Remaining Panellists.

T Mallon, Anton  McMullan,G McKinless,C Nevin,K McKaigue, C McGrogan K Johnston, N Forrester, M Bateson,M Mc Evoy,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, A McLoughlin,J Kielt,C McWilliams,C Bradley, Declan Hughes,E McGuckin,R Bell, N Toner and Danny Tallon.


As the modern game is essentially a 20 - man team effort I would look upon  all of the above but especially K McKaigue,G McKinless,M Bateson,C McWilliams,N Holly,P Cassidy, J Kielt, R Bell,C Bradley,Shane McGuigan and Danny Tallon as being prime candidates to come on during the course of the game at any time but especially during the last quarter.Indeed all of the latter would  also be very competent  to be on from the beginning.

I am sure that there are other obviously suitable  candidates outside those that I have mentioned above.

If Damian McErlain and his management team can get all of the above players willing and able to participate he will have the nucleus of a very good competitive team who can make a realistic
push for promotion from Division Three of the League and depending on the draw who knows what Derry might achieve in the Championship.

Quote from: sam03/05 on October 16, 2017, 01:32:28 PM
Is Slaughtneil home or away v Omagh
If at home mostly likely to be at Celtic Park? with the Owenbeg pitch poor
In winter

Quote from: greenlight on October 16, 2017, 11:09:55 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he's rebuilding them. That's if his ego can fit through them.

What's wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 17, 2017, 09:29:29 AM

Quote from: greenlight on October 16, 2017, 11:09:55 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up

So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

The only way that lad should be let through the gates of Owenbeg again is if he's rebuilding them. That's if his ego can fit through them.

What's wrong with giving the Slaughtneil keeper a shot?

Bit harsh on Postie. Think over the last 3-4 years, he's been one of the top keepers in the County.

McMullan definitely worthy of a call up. I was very impressed with him in the County Final.

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.

Quote from: braveheart on October 17, 2017, 11:17:07 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that wron the minor title three years ago.

The u21 championship needs revamped. It needs to be played at the start of the year before the league starts when there isn't anything else on. Then teams would take it seriously

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

Quote from: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM

Quote from: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM

Quote from: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 04:31:02 PM
I doubt there would be any but I would guarantee you that Lavey, Faughanvale, Dungiven and more would still have fielded this year if they were told minors couldn't play.

Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
I'm no expert but I know we used at least 15 u21s not including minors.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 11:44:33 AM
Just heard that if Ireland succeed in winning their bid for hosting the 2023 Rugby World Cup that all designated grounds for this  huge sporting and tourist event will be entitled to  large infrastructure grants both for the individual stadia and the cities in which the games will take place. If true that would mean that Derry City in general terms and Celtic Park in particular, as one of those designated grounds, would be in for a huge financial investment.

After all the years of official discrimination and untold suffering by so many innocent people  no city or county would deserve such a welcome bonus any better than the  good people of our own home place.

I would hope that Derry County Board,Derry City Council and all relevant government bodies,both north and south,would have proper provisional plans made for this exciting development were it to happen.

I am sure that all GAA followers in Derry and elsewhere would like to see the accommodation and playing facilities in Celtic Park updated and developed, particularly if it were to mean the allocation of substantial external grants to make the dream become a reality. Any posters out there know anything further about the prospects of this happening.

I know 2023 is a long time away but would it not be nice to see 2022 All Ireland winning Derry Senior football captain Brendan Rogers along with his vice captain Conor McAtamney show off the Sam Maguire Cup to the millions of the Irish diaspora across the world at the launch of the first World Rugby Cup game in Celtic Park!!! Unless we have such dreams and ambitions  no team or no management will ever achieve anything.Roll on 2018!

Quote from: TheImpactCode on October 18, 2017, 10:06:02 PM
Who do Ballinascreen play in the first round of the Ulster minor championship?

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 10:34:35 PM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Quote from: screenexile on October 19, 2017, 12:14:49 AM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on October 18, 2017, 10:34:35 PM
To answer "The Impact Code's " query as to which club Derry Minor champions Ballinascreen are drawn against in the Ulster Minor club championship (officially known as St Paul's Belfast Tournament!!) to the best of my knowledge the draw has not been made yet.However I am open to correction on this.

More importantly I hope Ballinascreen keep up a proud Derry winning tradition in this tournament.They have many very good footballers and it would be nice to see them gain some provincial silverware.

In the past outstanding individuals like Tony Scullion,Matt Trolan and Brendan Kelly starred for the Derry Senior team on numerous occasions, a  mantle now carried on by Dermot McBride,Benny Heron and Carlus McWilliams.Every club needs an occasional extra boost and this competition can be an incentive for Ballinascreen to make the most of their opportunity.

This years star  minors like John Paul Devlin and Martin Bradley can do likewise.

Cheers DO but unfortunately JP done his cruciate against Swatragh in the Semi Final which just shows how much the lads stepped up in the Final with such an influential player missing!

Really looking forward to the Minor Tournament fingers crossed we can give it a good go.

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 18, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Quote from: greenlight on October 19, 2017, 09:29:49 AM

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 18, 2017, 10:35:25 PM
We beat  Claudy by 1-16 to 0-13 tonight in  an entertaining under 21 B semi final , now  play glenullin in final on Sunday , ( Faughanvale v Lavey in A Final )

Anyone have any idea why the final is being played in Glenullin?

Quote from: Rawhide on October 19, 2017, 02:21:09 PM
The draw is tonight. I think we will get a good first round draw, as I think Mc Erlean seems to carry some good luck with him.

Quote from: screenexile on October 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we've a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Quote from: greenlight on October 20, 2017, 05:58:41 AM

Quote from: screenexile on October 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we've a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.

Quote from: Mountain Gael on October 20, 2017, 08:36:08 PM

Quote from: greenlight on October 20, 2017, 05:58:41 AM

Quote from: screenexile on October 20, 2017, 12:15:12 AM
Donegal will be a very tough but to crack in the first round I think. At least we've a better chance than if it were Tyrone again!

Terrible draw for Derry.

Don't agree. Think it is a excellent draw and don't rule out cavan beating donegal and we always beat cavan. Great chance of getting to ulster final as tyrone and monaghan in other half. as i said in the past if we can play with the same heart as we finished last year against mayo then its onwards and upwards for us. hope we can get everyone playing at start of league as this has been a stumbling block in the past

Quote from: Keyser soze on October 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 23, 2017, 09:14:28 AM

Quote from: Keyser soze on October 22, 2017, 12:17:32 PM
What happened the minor hurling final, I heard Lynch's won this but I see on Derry website that they conceded, maybe it's a typo?

Nash was absolutely disgraceful I heard.

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt

Quote from: Tagsman on October 25, 2017, 08:44:44 PM

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 25, 2017, 12:27:49 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

High stool chat of Ciaran Meenagh and Marty Boyle returning to Screen. Personally would love to see it, but it's probably a load of balls.

Haven't heard of any other appointments.

Strange comment after Screen getting to County final Phil??

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:32:21 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....

Quote from: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt

The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt

The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?

Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan

Quote from: wide as a gate! on October 26, 2017, 02:16:37 PM

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt

The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?

Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan

He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

Quote from: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Quote from: Real Talk on October 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

Quote from: JoG2 on October 26, 2017, 10:33:24 PM

Quote from: Real Talk on October 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

But most famous for slapping the big easy in the clinkers!

Quote from: Real Talk on October 26, 2017, 08:04:14 PM

Quote from: Rawhide on October 25, 2017, 04:01:24 PM
Paddy Campbell as manager, Ronan Rocks and Fabian Muldoon as coaches for the U17s.

Is that the same Paddy Campbell (Donegal native) that managed was it Steeltown ? a few years back and also Castldawson .... played a very defensive game with those teams ... !!!!

Quote from: toby47 on October 26, 2017, 02:20:32 PM

Quote from: wide as a gate! on October 26, 2017, 02:16:37 PM

Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM

Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM

Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt

The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?

Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan

He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore

Quote from: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Quote from: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 11:29:28 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

Quote from: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 12:09:04 PM

Quote from: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 11:29:28 AM

Quote from: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Quote from: oakleaflad on October 27, 2017, 04:48:21 PM
Refresh my memory here folks:

League promotion/relegation. Was it just 1up/1down this year or were there 2nd place/2nd bottom playoffs? If so, were those games played and who won?

Quote from: Lowintothewind on October 27, 2017, 10:38:12 PM

Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Hearing Michael O'Kane has left Claudy after 3 years in charge.  Also been mentioned as the new U17 manager

Quote from: braveheart on October 27, 2017, 07:12:17 PM
A blue nose has applied for the Swatragh senior footballers. I hope he doesn't get it.

Quote from: greenlight on October 28, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a 'Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you'd have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.

Quote from: greenlight on October 28, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a 'Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you'd have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Quote from: greenlight on October 28, 2017, 06:54:14 PM
Are Newbridge the second best team in Derry at the minute, based on form? Saw them today in Celtic Park and they blew that Fermanagh team away.

With a 'Bridge man at the helm in Owenbeg, you'd have to think some of these guys will be getting a run in the NFL in the Spring.

Quote from: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Quote from: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:35:16 AM

Quote from: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

With totally unbalanced comments like above, maybe you should stay hidden. The Hideout in Maghera would be perfect.  Comment analysis suggests that you do "want to take ... away" from Slaughtneil's victory as no supporters were playing and that you are jealous. How many Tyrone clubs have even been in the All Ireland final, please remind us?

Quote from: restorepride on October 29, 2017, 10:48:31 AM
And please remind the board of how many precious Tyrone clubs have played in All Ireland finals?

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Quote from: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

Quote from: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

Quote from: JoG2 on October 29, 2017, 08:42:39 PM

Quote from: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

Quote from: JoG2 on October 29, 2017, 08:42:39 PM

Quote from: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

Quote from: lenny on October 29, 2017, 09:27:47 PM

Quote from: JoG2 on October 29, 2017, 08:42:39 PM

Quote from: Real Talk on October 29, 2017, 07:19:10 PM

Quote from: restorepride on October 28, 2017, 09:34:50 PM
Big win for Slaughtneil without Paul Bradley and then Chrissy to a black card for last 15-20. Probably just about deserved it though Omagh missed good goal chance at start of second half. Newbridge did turn it on in second half with wind advantage, 2-6 on the trot. For me Conor Doherty stood out at midfield.

Always think Paul Bradley is very effective for them ...... was he injured ??

He's a huge player for Slaughtneil. Free taking aside, he has a huge amount of possessions every game and uses the ball well.

Thought all the first half wides might come back to haunt the Robbies yesterday, but they just know how to win these kind of games. Christ Omagh were incredibly defensive.. At times all 15 players in or around their 45.

He was a v good player but he's done now. Now that he's out of the team can't see him getting his place back. They're more than capable of winning without him.

Quote from: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Quote from: theticklemister on October 30, 2017, 11:05:00 AM

Quote from: In hiding on October 29, 2017, 04:08:03 AM
not wishing to take anything away from an impressive slaughtneil victory but that's twice I've met their supporters. we have lots of crazies in tyrone but nothing to compare to the slaughtneil loonies. is this normal In derry

Yeah your right lad; they all speak a fecking weird language up there, whatever the feck it is.

Oh aye........ it's our own native language.

Quote from: shantygael on November 05, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 06:40:57 PM

Quote from: shantygael on November 05, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Quote from: restorepride on November 05, 2017, 08:04:18 PM

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 05, 2017, 06:40:57 PM

Quote from: shantygael on November 05, 2017, 05:15:20 PM
Hard luck na magha,slow start them the game ,1-04 to no score after 15 minutes although got it to within two points at the break.4 or 5 score able chances missed also.grant moving up the field in second half improved their fire power, scoring a goal and the pass which got the free for the 3rd goal.gave it everything they had.ref didn't do them any favours,, couldn't buy a free.

Was a great advert for junior hurling. Seriously good game.  Some heart from na magha to come back. Ref was brutal.  Setanta scorEd 12 frees. At least 7 of them very soft

Fair dues also to the Derry hurlers who picked up All Star awards in their own category.

Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

Quote from: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM

Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2017, 11:26:41 AM

Quote from: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM

Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Quote from: theticklemister on November 08, 2017, 12:57:38 PM

Quote from: toby47 on November 08, 2017, 11:26:41 AM

Quote from: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM

Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision

Good see a Slaughtmanus man getting ejected from the game for kicking a ball rather than kicking somebody.

Quote from: DERRYSFINEST on November 08, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

Quote from: DERRYSFINEST on November 08, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
I would love to see squad numbers brought in to u17s this year, just to see Kosta Papachristopolas on the back of a jersey!

Plays for Ballerin

Quote from: oakleaflad on November 09, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 09, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.

Quote from: Mario on November 08, 2017, 06:42:53 PM
In the words of Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh.  His mother's from Ballerin, his father's from Greece, neither a footballing stronghold.

Quote from: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

Quote from: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

Quote from: allseasons on November 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM

Quote from: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?

Quote from: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 10:27:59 AM

Quote from: allseasons on November 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM

Quote from: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?

it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

Quote from: allseasons on November 14, 2017, 10:56:32 AM

Quote from: braveheart on November 14, 2017, 10:27:59 AM

Quote from: allseasons on November 13, 2017, 09:17:07 PM

Quote from: braveheart on November 12, 2017, 03:22:05 PM
And then there was 1. A better year for Derry Gaa but a disappointing day nonetheless. Newbridge in particular would've been fancied for the ulster intermediate prize. And Trasna have had a good year. Junior football in Derry has improved greatly since the league's have been altered. Slaughtneil keep on going. It is some journey for that massive parish.

I'm curious brave heart. How was it a better year for derry gaa?

it is very simple. It is unusual for "all" the Derry club sides to reach the semifinals of Ulster in the same year,so that means it is a better year. I'm dissapointed both Newbridge and Doire Trasna lost because I want Derry teams of all descriptions winning.
How did our representatives all do last year?
slaughtneil won ulster and only for an unfortunate sending off would likely be reigning all Ireland champions. Castledawson put up a brave show against a very strong Pomeroy outfit, and Magilligan were beat in a quarter final??
Sorry I stand corrected. Much better year for Derry football on the back of our junior champs going one round further  ::)

Quote from: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 12:29:55 PM

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 01:48:47 PM

Quote from: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 12:29:55 PM

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.

Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Quote from: theticklemister on November 14, 2017, 07:05:50 PM

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 01:48:47 PM

Quote from: JoG2 on November 14, 2017, 12:29:55 PM

Quote from: RedandBlacks on November 14, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.

Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.

Quote from: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

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Quote from: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.

Quote from: shawshank on November 15, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a 'gap' year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren't good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.

Quote from: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Quote from: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Quote from: Real Talk on November 15, 2017, 11:10:53 PM

Quote from: toby47 on November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 17, 2017, 08:31:50 AM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Quote from: allseasons on November 17, 2017, 10:46:49 AM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 17, 2017, 08:31:50 AM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 09:34:25 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 03:45:00 PM

Quote from: allseasons on November 16, 2017, 03:25:39 PM

Quote from: Keyser soze on November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.

Jesus wept ::)

Heh?

The idea of moving the age from under 18 to u17 was so our young players wouldn't have to combine playing  county minor football with the biggest exams of their lives in the same year.

Yeah I already knew that. I was pointing out that that it was the same whether doing leaving cert or A level in response to someone saying it favoured 26 co minors.

I havent a clue what ur comments are about. Don't think u do either.

Apologies Keyser I picked you up wrong there. Your point is indeed a valid one.

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Quote from: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on November 18, 2017, 02:17:23 PM
Joe isn't happy - and he's stopping giving money to Club Derry

https://twitter.com/JoeBrolly1993/status/931887386367324161

Quote from: imtommygunn on November 18, 2017, 09:25:01 PM
Paddy crozier?

Quote from: Tagsman on November 18, 2017, 09:21:40 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Who are they? Can't think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Quote from: lenny on November 18, 2017, 09:48:51 PM

Quote from: Tagsman on November 18, 2017, 09:21:40 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Who are they? Can't think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Quote from: Mikhailov on November 18, 2017, 10:12:28 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 18, 2017, 09:48:51 PM

Quote from: Tagsman on November 18, 2017, 09:21:40 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 17, 2017, 11:28:47 PM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Correct it's sad. Too many of derry's best coaches are getting far too much money up in tyrone to consider taking derrys underage teams.

Who are they? Can't think of any Derry men in throne apart from Barton?

Off the top of my head in the last few seasons there's been barton, crozier, cassidy, boyle, mcguckin and devlin at least. There may have been more.

Who are Boyle, McGuckian and Devlin?

Quote from: Glenman93 on November 19, 2017, 02:18:47 PM

Don't listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 18, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Has Derry's new  U20 football manager Mickey Donnelly of Tyrone  announced his back room team?

Hopefully included will be some very able and talented Derry men with vision and footballing expertise - especially in the tactics and coaching know how of the modern game - to supplement the excellent C.V of the Aughnacloy man.
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It is vital that the great work of the past three years of Damian McErlain and his Minor management team be built upon and developed properly so that the players can seamlessly move forward from being good minors and through  the ranks of the U20's onto Senior inter county standard.

I am sure an Provincial  title  will be the aim of the new U20 management team.

Quote from: Glenman93 on November 19, 2017, 02:18:47 PM

Don’t listen to fake news. From a very reliable source not a single Derry club put forward a candidate for either U17 or U20 manager. They were given six weeks to discuss and nominate but none came back with a name.

Quote from: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 03:56:05 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

Quote from: thepundit on November 20, 2017, 06:38:41 PM

Quote from: Rawhide on November 20, 2017, 03:56:05 PM
Both Fergal and Enda are Derry legends, so full respect to both, but as Enda being a 1st class coach, totally without foundation yet (has the personality for it), surely if he was coach to the u21s last season he is as culpable as the manager??

I wouldn't say that.. the manager is the one that implements the playing style and the one who makes the decisions on the starting 15. From what I seen of the under 21s they often didn't know what style of football they were trying to play. I think that fergal was out done by opposition tactics. As for big enda.. by no means is he the finished article as a manager/coach.. and he will learn a lot from his time at banager but as a player he was a master at the basic skills to the highest degree and in his coaching he brings those basics to the forefront

Quote from: braveheart on November 23, 2017, 01:09:20 PM
Rest in peace Frankie kearney.

Quote from: restorepride on November 25, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
Good luck to Slaughtneil tomorrow, despite injuries they probably should have enough to win. Would be the first ever Derry club to win back to back Ulster Club titles never mind the double Ulster treble!

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

Quote from: lenny on November 26, 2017, 10:42:26 AM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

Quote from: longballin on November 26, 2017, 05:04:06 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 26, 2017, 10:42:26 AM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

considering he's lived over 30 years in Tyrone...

Quote from: lenny on November 26, 2017, 06:02:02 PM

Quote from: longballin on November 26, 2017, 05:04:06 PM

Quote from: lenny on November 26, 2017, 10:42:26 AM

Quote from: skeog on November 17, 2017, 09:38:06 PM
Good god a donegal and tyrone man guiding your u age teams never in a million years would tyrone think about outsiders.

A million years is a slight exaggeration you arrogant pr**k. You had a derry man managing your u21s not that long ago, peter doherty.

considering he's lived over 30 years in Tyrone...

He's still a derry man.

Quote from: quiganmaster on November 26, 2017, 05:02:18 PM
Got to feel sorry for the cattle around Slaughtneil, the poor f**kers never get milked!

Congrats to the Emmetts, stronger than last years team?

Quote from: seanyb1 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen -
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt -
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -
Swatragh -

Quote from: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 10:35:04 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane

Quote from: Waataboutyee on November 28, 2017, 12:29:25 PM

Quote from: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 10:35:04 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush           Ex Tyrone player Adrian Cush?
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane

Quote from: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 02:54:09 PM

Quote from: Waataboutyee on November 28, 2017, 12:29:25 PM

Quote from: toby47 on November 28, 2017, 10:35:04 AM

Quote from: seanyb1 on November 28, 2017, 09:13:14 AM
Managerial merry go round..Could we fill in the blanks?



Bellaghy - joe cassidy
Ballinascreen - Barry Dillon
Ballinderry - harte & o'donnell
Claudy - Chris Collins
Coleraine - sean mcgoldrick
Dungiven -
Glen - Enda Gormley & Seamus Doyle
Glenullin -
Greenlough - naill conway
Kilrea -
Lavey - brennan & seamus downey
Loup - kevin coary
Magherafelt - Adrian Cush           Ex Tyrone player Adrian Cush?
Newbridge - paddy bradley
Slaughtneil -  8)
Swatragh - Michael O'Kane

first i heard about Adrian Cush, I assume it is him (ex tyrone player)

Quote from: uimhr ocht on November 30, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Do the clubs have a vote in regards to the changing of underage structure next year?the ccc are going to make the decision I believe.if they decide to change it probably would make sense to bring it in next year rather than delay for another season.

Quote from: Fr. Cyril McDuff on November 30, 2017, 11:23:07 AM

Quote from: uimhr ocht on November 30, 2017, 09:20:45 AM
Do the clubs have a vote in regards to the changing of underage structure next year?the ccc are going to make the decision I believe.if they decide to change it probably would make sense to bring it in next year rather than delay for another season.

What about all the lads who were expecting to play minor club football in the coming year?
I get why the change is being made but most 18 year olds aren't ready for senior football and reserve football is a shambles. Changing to U17 at club level would be fine if there was a vibrant reserve or U20 structure already in place. In Derry this is not the case. Imo they need to sort what's happening with U20 first and run it for a season before any change is made to club minors.
Clubs will lose players who would otherwise still be playing. Some will go to soccer/rugby some will quit sport completely.
The decision to change to U17 was made to suit the elite player (those on schools, club senior and county minor squads) and not the majority - a common theme. Someone who just plays for their club minor team should be able to combine this with exams etc fairly easily.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 30, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Having just seen the McKenna Cup draw, does anyone know  if Damian McErlain and most of the other County managers are carrying on the proud and fair  tradition of previous  managers releasing their college-based players to play for the colleges,especially in the group stages of the competition?

Quote from: restorepride on November 30, 2017, 11:01:33 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 30, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
Having just seen the McKenna Cup draw, does anyone know  if Damian McErlain and most of the other County managers are carrying on the proud and fair  tradition of previous  managers releasing their college-based players to play for the colleges,especially in the group stages of the competition?

No doubt Mickey Harte will continue with his unfair and not so proud tradition!

Quote from: South Derry fan on December 03, 2017, 04:46:21 PM
To add to what the weasel has said we should have more than enough quality players in Derry to compete in the McKenna cup and Div 3 of the NFL until the Slaughtneill players are available. The panel from last year added to by the stay away players should leave us very competitive. Have all the players who opted out last year made themselves available again? Why has no panel been announced yet?

Quote from: Derry Optimist on December 03, 2017, 07:36:06 PM
It has been said that there are only 26 players,including the Slaughtneil contingent, on the Derry Senior football panel.As one would expect that there would be at least 7 Slaughtneil men - ie A McMullan,the two McKaigues,Brendan Rogers,Padraig Cassidy,Christopher Bradley and Shane McGuigan - on the squad that would mean that there would only be 19 players available for the McKenna Cup.
I think that it is extremely doubtful that Damian McErlain would  prepare for the League with such a limited number of players.
Anyhow we are only,I hope,in the realm of unfounded speculation.Going by his record of publicly announcing his minor panels,well in advance, over the last three years one would expect that an announcement of his present plans,including names of panellists, both for the McKenna Cup and League would be imminent.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on December 04, 2017, 10:22:49 AM
Would be really disappointed if Danny Heavron was not on this  year's Derry panel.He was our best   and most consistent player by a country mile over the last few years.As a fellow club man one would think that  it would be highly unlikely if Damian McErlain did not contact Danny but Toby seems to be adamant that he did not.

For whatever reason it is imperative that all of our best players are available in order to move Derry forward into Division Two and make them more competitive in the championship.Leaders on the field are required and Heavron is one of the best in that regard as well as being a really talented player.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on December 04, 2017, 04:29:42 PM
Thanks "Newbridge Exile" for that encouraging news  re Danny Heavron and the composition of the Derry panel.

Anyhow if one were to go by Damian McErlain's track record in this regard the announcement of the 2018 panel should appear shortly on the official Derry GAA website.

That would bring clarity to all Derry supporters and end unfounded speculation as we would all then know who is on the panel and who is not.

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 09:16:11 AM
Decent panel. Couple of fresh faces which is good to see. They probably need another goalkeeper. Thought McMullan might have got called up. He's been good this past few seasons. Something has to be up with Danny Heavron and/or the management as he is possibly our best player and is perfectly suited to the way the game is played now. Loughlin being away is a big miss also.

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
It's a very positive squad IMO. I don't see any mediocre players and it certainly looks more positive than previous management's who had players who wouldn't have made a top club side in Derry. I'm surprised Mark Lynch and James Kielt are back but I must say the rest look youthful and energetic

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

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Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Quote from: Derry Optimist on December 05, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:32:38 PM

Quote from: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

Quote from: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:45:38 PM

Quote from: Derry Optimist on December 05, 2017, 12:32:15 PM
First of all the good news about the Derry panel for 2018 is,as was flagged sometime ago, that Liam McGoldrick,Emmett Bradley,Terence O'Brien,Michael Bateson and Kevin Johnston are back.All are talented individuals who will add skill,pace and leadership qualities to the team.All will either be on the starting 15 or at least the match day squad and likely to enter the fray at some stage.Similarly one must applaud management in their selection of many young capable players as well.

What is most disappointing, however, is the  absence of many others including six men that one would have expected to be selected.For whatever reason and we do not know why( with the exception of Niall Loughlin who has gone travelling) six other key  players are missing from the panel.Danny Heavron,Sean Leo McGoldrick,Garth McKinless,Ryan Bell,Niall Holly and Emmett McGuckin are not picked. Heavron.Loughlin and McGoldrick would have been certain starters and the others would have at least been on the match day squad.

So it would appear to be a permanent feature of present day inter county teams that are not in the mix for provincial or All Ireland honours that many talented individuals drop out,are injured,not available or are not selected by management.With the exception of Niall Loughlin we do not know which category the other currently "missing " Derry players belong.

Be that as it may we  are where we are. We in Derry have a tendency of blaming managers for all the ills of the County team. Damian Barton was particularly badly treated in this regard as was Fergal P McCusker.Let us not add Damian McErlain to that roll call and get behind him and the new panel at once.We must hope that the spirit of the players that was so evident in Castlebar  against All Ireland finalists  Mayo last July will continue to inspire a new generation of Derry players.It is just so ironic that two of the stars of that game- Danny Heavron and Ryan Bell- are no longer on the panel.

Neither player were asked to be part of this years panel.

When Derry gave Mayo the scare of their lives last summer in Castlebar Derry scored 1-13. Niall loughlin 0-6, Ryan Bell 0-3 and Danny Heavron 0-1.

In my eyes Derry do not have many forwards on that panel capable of kicking a few scores from play vs. top inter county sides. Ryan Bell kicked 0-3 from play against all Ireland finalists and we all know how Heavron has performed this past few years for Derry. To leave them both out is Ludacris, especially when we are where we are as a county and some of the replacements wouldn't be fit to lace these fellas boots.

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM

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Quote from: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:32:38 PM

Quote from: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:02:50 AM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:32:38 PM

Quote from: toby47 on December 05, 2017, 12:18:58 PM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

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Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 12:03:43 PM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

I've been hearing the exact same comments for the past 30 years and nothing has changed.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:02:50 AM

Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 12:48:51 PM

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Quote from: oakleaflad on December 05, 2017, 11:55:34 AM

Quote from: Rawhide on December 05, 2017, 11:33:55 AM

Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Quote from: restorepride on December 06, 2017, 12:25:14 AM

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:02:50 AM

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Quote from: braveheart on December 05, 2017, 11:30:11 AM
A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on December 06, 2017, 12:50:35 AM

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A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.

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A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.

More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

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A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.

More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

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A squad of 45 named in the new minor squad. Very noticeable the amount from South Derry on it-33 from South Derry,12 from North Derry. This squad has been picked by a Donegal man and a Tyrone man so no biased opinions this time

No surprise in that, south derry has always been where the football strong hold is in the county, your stating the obvious, however I fully take your point that it has been selected by a Donegal man.

Why does it matter where in Derry they are from? So long as the best players are picked I couldn't care less if they are from Bellaghy or Magilligan.

I was just stating the facts. It was very obvious and really stood out to me.

Take a look at the grading of teams from u14 to senior. More South Derry than North Derry teams in Divison 1 at every age group. Meaning the teams from South Derry are the stronger teams, because they have the better player and obviously if we are picking a panel of the best players their is going to be more from South Derry?

it's the exact same in the senior panel announced this morning.

Having read this post,isn't it ironic that the county training facility is in in North Derry and our County pitch is in Derry city. It makes you wonder. They invest so much money in the city yet all we have as a county to show for it so far is Neil Forester.

I'm not from the city but that's a negative post. There is some good work going on in the city and coaching at underage level in the city clubs has improved greatly. 3 city players on the minor squad just announced. There is a great opportunity to improve our Derry teams through the city and it is only beginning to be realised in my opinion.

45 is a ridiculous number. Even with the change to u17 there are far too many 2001s in there. Paddy Campbell will look after his own. The county is bending over backwards to push his club on.

Ye what? Pushing his club so much that they allow another club to form in the same catchment area? Please stop talking cac.

I take it you dint know city too well. Steelstown is in shantallow(although they'd like not to be). Culmore is not in shantallow. Anyhow sure they suck the poor wee Ardmores of this world to death whether by design or otherwise. How many steelstown players pass clubs closer to them?. They have 35 of a panel at most ages and don't make many subs. It only deprives lads an opportunity. Plenty to go around. They let? Wise up its not a nazi state we run. I speaketh no Cac good sir.

More cac. If anything, Steelstown is in Ballyarnett, just below the village of Steelstown. Many of their players are from the Culmore area and Hollybush PS is one of their feeder schools. Ask Paddy the next time you see him. Some of your rant above is not only inaccurate but ridiculous. Jealousy maybe, as Steelstown is one of the best run clubs in the city.

Fear is correct. Steelstown is in Shantallow, Steelstown Village and Ballyarnett are very small areas in the edge of Shantallow. Steelstown has a huge catchment area, all the Greater Shantallow area, Gallaigh, Carn Hill, Skeoge etc which are now being more tapped into with Culmore coming on the scene. It's a win win for greater Shantallow and Culmore in a footballing sense. Steelstown are a super club, but there's a lot of players not getting game time because of huge numbers.
You are correct in saying Hollybush is a feeder school, but that will inevitably change when the new Culmore pitch (due to be based not far for the primary school on the grounds of the new Culmore Park) opens in the coming years. I've a clatter of nieces and nephews who go to Hollybush, all play underage, but none for Steelstown, as is the way in the Derry City and its surrounding areas ie no parish boundaries. Culmore is a parish, and most gaels in the area wish them nothing but the best.