"Super clubs"

Started by general_lee, March 09, 2016, 01:07:04 PM

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general_lee

 http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/trio-in-surprise-intercounty-transfers-to-st-vincent-s-1.2563813

What does the pre-season meeting go like in these clubs... "right lads, good luck in the intermediate/junior, you're making way for a few lads who are signing for us next week"

armaghniac

There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

brokencrossbar1

Where's Indiana with his claims that they'll win the next 100 AIs???

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: armaghniac on March 09, 2016, 01:36:36 PM
There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.

Would it be of benefit  that any player wishing to transfer into Dublin was put into a draft system ,and allocated to a  club that way?
(disclaimer: I am just thinking out loud here, I haven't really given this any thought!)
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

Syferus

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Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 09, 2016, 01:36:36 PM
There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.

Would it be of benefit  that any player wishing to transfer into Dublin was put into a draft system ,and allocated to a  club that way?
(disclaimer: I am just thinking out loud here, I haven't really given this any thought!)

It would defeat the point of a player moving clubs (by far the main reason they leave their home clubs is distance and time spent travelling, not glory hunting) if they could end up playing for a team near Bray and they live on the northside of the city.

blewuporstuffed

Quote from: Syferus on March 09, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 09, 2016, 01:36:36 PM
There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.

Would it be of benefit  that any player wishing to transfer into Dublin was put into a draft system ,and allocated to a  club that way?
(disclaimer: I am just thinking out loud here, I haven't really given this any thought!)

It would defeat the point of a player moving clubs (by far the main reason they leave their home clubs is distance and time spent travelling) if they could end up playing for a team near Bray if they live on the northside of the city.

Fair enough.
maybe i could be divided up into certain regions in Dublin?
I just thought i might be a way to stop the big clubs going out and 'poaching' players.
I can only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either

armaghniac

Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2016, 01:58:33 PM
Quote from: Syferus on March 09, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 09, 2016, 01:36:36 PM
There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.

Would it be of benefit  that any player wishing to transfer into Dublin was put into a draft system ,and allocated to a  club that way?
(disclaimer: I am just thinking out loud here, I haven't really given this any thought!)

I think a limit would be sufficient. Anyone would know that certain clubs would be at their transfer limit and if they wanted to move to Dublin would probably form a link with a club not likely to reach its transfer limit.

It would defeat the point of a player moving clubs (by far the main reason they leave their home clubs is distance and time spent travelling) if they could end up playing for a team near Bray if they live on the northside of the city.

Fair enough.
maybe i could be divided up into certain regions in Dublin?
I just thought i might be a way to stop the big clubs going out and 'poaching' players.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 09, 2016, 01:41:35 PM
Where's Indiana with his claims that they'll win the next 100 AIs???
talking to his nurse. We are so lucky he shares his insight with us
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shark

Quote from: Syferus on March 09, 2016, 01:55:06 PM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on March 09, 2016, 01:43:40 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 09, 2016, 01:36:36 PM
There should be limit on the number of transfers into any club. There are many clubs in Dublin, all players could be accommodated without gathering into a select few.

Would it be of benefit  that any player wishing to transfer into Dublin was put into a draft system ,and allocated to a  club that way?
(disclaimer: I am just thinking out loud here, I haven't really given this any thought!)

It would defeat the point of a player moving clubs (by far the main reason they leave their home clubs is distance and time spent travelling, not glory hunting) if they could end up playing for a team near Bray and they live on the northside of the city.

For sure, the decision to transfer will be down to having to travel long distances, in the majority of cases. But the choice of club is a wholely different thing. St.Vincent's are surrounded by a hell of a lot of other clubs, some of whom could really benefit from an inter county forward joining them.

Interestingly, the individuals referenced in the article above had no idea that the other two were transferring as well. They are all forwards. No way Vincents are going to line out in championship with 3 of their 6 forwards from outside the club.

For balance it is also important to say that none of them were  financially incentivised. Hasn't been said here, but I've seen it elsewhere, Twitter etc.

Some sort of regional draft system could work well. Would it be within the rules of the association for DCB to implement one?

Kickham csc

Could we not set up "Exile Clubs" in Dublin, e.g. Dublin Ulster, Dublin Munster, etc  and direct players moving to join their host exile clubs.

Worked for rugby in London, why not here.

Orrrrrrrrr, how about a Dublin Kerry club, yea ha, that would be some craic

Croí na hÉireann

Tomás Corrigan was on Newstalk a couple of weeks ago saying he joint Plunketts purely because he was training with them for the past 2 years while continuing to play with his club at home. New job was the reason he had to give up the travelling back for club games/training. Interesting interview and an honest rebuttal of the implication that all these transfers are financially incentivised. I'm sure some are though and to act as a deterrent new transfers should be barred from playing for the first team for the first year.
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

general_lee

Maybe just cap the number of non-Dublin players per panel? How many do Vincent's now have?  :o

rionach 4

My son has recently taken up work in Dublin and living in Malahide where he trains with the local club. He travels home at weekends for training or matches. He says himself if he was going to be working in Dublin long-term(a few years) he would def move. Great club and great bunch of fellas to train with. They made him so welcome and absolutely no pressure whatsoever to transfer allegiance . It's the same for many young fellas I know, not just the high profile names.

Gael85

Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 09, 2016, 02:50:53 PM
Tomás Corrigan was on Newstalk a couple of weeks ago saying he joint Plunketts purely because he was training with them for the past 2 years while continuing to play with his club at home. New job was the reason he had to give up the travelling back for club games/training. Interesting interview and an honest rebuttal of the implication that all these transfers are financially incentivised. I'm sure some are though and to act as a deterrent new transfers should be barred from playing for the first team for the first year.

That just an excuse. Is he travelling back to Fermanagh for inter county training every week? I dont get playing still playing inter county football transferring to Dublin clubs. Most of them players are likely to more games for than county than club in a season

Syferus

Quote from: Gael85 on March 09, 2016, 03:54:02 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on March 09, 2016, 02:50:53 PM
Tomás Corrigan was on Newstalk a couple of weeks ago saying he joint Plunketts purely because he was training with them for the past 2 years while continuing to play with his club at home. New job was the reason he had to give up the travelling back for club games/training. Interesting interview and an honest rebuttal of the implication that all these transfers are financially incentivised. I'm sure some are though and to act as a deterrent new transfers should be barred from playing for the first team for the first year.

That just an excuse. Is he travelling back to Fermanagh for inter county training every week? I dont get playing still playing inter county football transferring to Dublin clubs. Most of them players are likely to more games for than county than club in a season

IC is the pinnacle of player's career. How anyone couldn't get sticking by their county for the short few years they have at the top is hard for anyone to understand. The same players would probably continue to play for their clubs at home longer if there was no IC.

Really like Corrigan as a player and from what I've seen of him off the field. Doesn't do bs.