General Election 2024

Started by Rossfan, November 03, 2024, 05:44:39 PM

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thewobbler

Quote from: NAG1 on December 02, 2024, 11:39:13 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 02, 2024, 11:21:05 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on December 02, 2024, 11:06:01 AMI wasn't referring to disenfranchised in terms of their vote, more that they are disenfranchised from access to housing, access to a fair economy and access to employment and opportunities.

Housing is certainly an issue, but people today have a much better economy, more access to education and employment and so more opportunities than their parents or grandparents ever had.

Agreed, but all that is relative to the cost of living and the housing market. Even back in the day with less education and employment opportunities owning your own house in your own community wasn't the pipe dream it is today.

Could go round in circles with this all day but that is just the way it is and more and more young people are coming into that reality every year.



It's properly mindboggling that people are unable / unwilling to understand this.


seafoid

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Quote from: Pub Bore on December 02, 2024, 10:01:36 AMGreat vote management by FF, pretty good by SF and a mixed bag by FG.  It's FFFG for the foreseeable future in Ireland until there's another major crash.  SF just couldn't convince enough people that they would actually change things.  They leaked votes to nearly everyone.  I'm not sure where SF go from here?  A left leaning transfer pact going into an election looks essential not as an after thought the day before voting.  I can't see Mary Lou leading them into the next election.  She's good with people but got stuck on the detail in some interviews.
A crash that brings down house prices is overdue. If the rule is that smaller parties in coalitions get shafted in the next election, a second rule is that large parties get shafted when house prices fall.


   https://www.ft.com/content/49cca8d7-7b6e-47e3-a50c-9557d7c85fc0

   Talk of bubbles in tech or AI, or in investment strategies focused on growth and momentum, obscures the mother of all bubbles in US markets. Thoroughly dominating the mind space of global investors, America is over-owned, overvalued and overhyped to a degree never seen before. As with all bubbles, it is hard to know when this one will deflate, or what will trigger its decline.

Rossfan

Terrible those "free staters"(sic) won't vote the way 6 Cos Sinn Féiners told them to.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

FF have 43 seats. Compared to peak FF that is down at least 30. I suppose the main beneficiaries of FF downsizing would be independents and SF.

Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

StephenC


03,05,08

Quote from: Rossfan on December 02, 2024, 12:40:24 PMTerrible those "free staters"(sic) won't vote the way 6 Cos Sinn Féiners told them to.

What does that even mean?

trueblue1234

Quote from: 03,05,08 on December 02, 2024, 01:51:58 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 02, 2024, 12:40:24 PMTerrible those "free staters"(sic) won't vote the way 6 Cos Sinn Féiners told them to.

What does that even mean?
I wouldn't pull at that thread. You'll just unleash the rambling!!
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

armaghniac

The CSO data today showed why people did not want change
"Average weekly earnings were €955.49 in Quarter 3 (Q3) 2024, up 5.3% from €907.10 in Q3 2023"
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on December 02, 2024, 04:00:52 PMThe CSO data today showed why people did not want change
"Average weekly earnings were €955.49 in Quarter 3 (Q3) 2024, up 5.3% from €907.10 in Q3 2023"
How much house will €955.49 per week buy?

Rossfan

Houses were shocking chape late 1980s/early 1990s Seaf.

The incoming Government needs to address housing above anything else.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

skeog

Mary Lou reaching out to other parties whats that about sure theres no chance on the figures imo.

armaghniac

Quote from: seafoid on December 02, 2024, 04:07:26 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on December 02, 2024, 04:00:52 PMThe CSO data today showed why people did not want change
"Average weekly earnings were €955.49 in Quarter 3 (Q3) 2024, up 5.3% from €907.10 in Q3 2023"
How much house will €955.49 per week buy?

About 600 blocks.
MAGA Make Armagh Great Again

Blowitupref

Just four seats to be filled. All in the Cavan/Monaghan area and at the moment it looks like two more seats for FF and one for SF and 1 for AON.




In 2020 it was

FF 38
SF 37 
FG 35 
GP 12 
LAB 6 
SD 6
PBP-Sol 5
AON 1
IND 19
Oth 1
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Pub Bore

In Cav-Mon it looks like Carthy and Bennett will be elected for SF plus 1 FF, sitting TD Pauline Tully of SF has been eliminated.  Last seat will be tight between AON and FF.  AON need v. big transfer from SF.  FF probably slight favourite.