Antrim Hurling

Started by milltown row, January 26, 2007, 11:21:26 AM

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NorthAntrim

Dublin was a poor one. But it was really a last 15 mins meltdown for whatever reason. Dublin are a very good side in saying that and a good bit ahead. We're going to need some of these younger lads really putting the hand up next year saying im ready to go here, but at the minute physically not senior intercounty level

JonnyD_

great victory for the Saffs on Sunday. James McN on fire, great to see someone like him stepping up - a delight to watch.
We beat a 14 man Carlow (we were expected to be beat them every day of the week - its Carlow ffs), big deal! We got a great day out against Wexford - but is that it. Our season is defined by one good game v Wexford?? terrible to think that, but it probably is when you look at the scores in all other games all year in league and chmp!

We remain Div 1 (there was no relegation)
People talk about consistency (MR2) We play the last game of the year like we did last year fighting a relegation battle against another tier 2 county. It'll be the same next year if we dont change it up! 

Gleeson has been an outstanding manager for us. Thank him for his service, for raising the bar, the expectation and standard! But time to move on... change is good, for us and him!

Would like to see an Antrim man in post next year with good antrim coaches taking the team. 


Milltown Row2

So which Antrim man are you recommending?

Not sure what standard of players we have to match teams physically? We have plenty skill btw but over 70 plus minutes the big teams grind you down.

Bitta disrespectful on Carlow, they'd a better score difference to us and with 15 players on the park they could have won.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

imtommygunn

I would be very sorry to see gleeson go. I think we will be a lot worse off for it when he goes. League was very tough with the absence of players - we just don't have the depth to replace that number of players and compete at that level.

Mr they were a red card waiting to happen. If it wasn't that boy it would likely have ended up someone else.

Realistically Carlow and Laois are about our level. The problem for us, and them as well, is that Offaly are going to come good eventually and then there's one spot that will really be the yo yo one.


JonnyD_


i think the main reason for finding someone local isnt anti- Gleeson or anti- southerner i just think it makes more sense to have someone whos not spending 20 hours a week in the car travelling up and down. its a tough enough job without being on the road. thats my honest opinion and mental fatigue surely must kick in, especially after 5 long seasons starting in the summer realistically!

Probably Gregory... he's the only one i honestly think of with a track record of winning! and winning consistently (bar last year lol!) why not give it someone like him supported by a good back room team.

Re: Carlow i'm maybe being flippant there but we should be targeting those games as must wins, i think thats part of my point. apologies  ;D



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2024, 05:40:50 PMSo which Antrim man are you recommending?

Not sure what standard of players we have to match teams physically? We have plenty skill btw but over 70 plus minutes the big teams grind you down.

Bitta disrespectful on Carlow, they'd a better score difference to us and with 15 players on the park they could have won.



Milltown Row2

Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 27, 2024, 10:58:36 PMi think the main reason for finding someone local isnt anti- Gleeson or anti- southerner i just think it makes more sense to have someone whos not spending 20 hours a week in the car travelling up and down. its a tough enough job without being on the road. thats my honest opinion and mental fatigue surely must kick in, especially after 5 long seasons starting in the summer realistically!

Probably Gregory... he's the only one i honestly think of with a track record of winning! and winning consistently (bar last year lol!) why not give it someone like him supported by a good back room team.

Re: Carlow i'm maybe being flippant there but we should be targeting those games as must wins, i think thats part of my point. apologies  ;D



Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2024, 05:40:50 PMSo which Antrim man are you recommending?

Not sure what standard of players we have to match teams physically? We have plenty skill btw but over 70 plus minutes the big teams grind you down.

Bitta disrespectful on Carlow, they'd a better score difference to us and with 15 players on the park they could have won.



We did target that game as a must win..

I think there is a selection process with interviews for the post, not sure Gregory would be interested it's been a tough job for anyone never mind locals, but anyone can apply.

Darren has three very good knowledgeable Antrim men by his side, they might want to be in the reckoning too.

Personally I much prefer the outsider, one example, Dinny, was a cracking manager and was able to instil his passion for the game to the players without any baggage.

Bringing Antrim natives generally brings the negativity from the barflys/hurlers in the ditch.

The current players in Antrim age wise isn't bad, potentially there's some growth there, wouldn't be the worst time to take a team
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

NorthAntrim

Its clear every interview how much respect Gleeson has(two way thing)
I think outside is the only way, long term i think our goal is just maintain Div 1 and Senior champ. This chat of Leinster finals etc. Weve a lot of good years left in our top performers, we need a conveyor belt of talent coming to support them. Easier said than done

There are probably a lot of fellas in the county of senior club level but not at a county level s&c wise. Decky McCloskey for example

johnnycool

Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 28, 2024, 09:53:36 AMIts clear every interview how much respect Gleeson has(two way thing)
I think outside is the only way, long term i think our goal is just maintain Div 1 and Senior champ. This chat of Leinster finals etc. Weve a lot of good years left in our top performers, we need a conveyor belt of talent coming to support them. Easier said than done

There are probably a lot of fellas in the county of senior club level but not at a county level s&c wise. Decky McCloskey for example

Surely wee Micky McShane has to be in with a shout if Gleeson moves on?

JonnyD_

dont think he's done enough - took Slaughtneil for 6 weeks of the year after they got put out of football? and Tyrone? hardly a tier 1 manager.

Franko

Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AMdont think he's done enough - took Slaughtneil for 6 weeks of the year after they got put out of football? and Tyrone? hardly a tier 1 manager.


And Gleeson's CV was?

imtommygunn

He's from Tipp and they all know about hurling down there  ;D

paddyjohn

Micky McShane would be a good shout in my opinion. Dick O'Kane also or would Johnny Campbell or Close want to take it on? Any of the underage coaches inside the county set up ready to step up? I hope Gleeson stays on another year as it's all been positive from players about him. We'll have to pay top dollar no matter who it is from outside.

NorthAntrim

Quote from: Franko on May 28, 2024, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AMdont think he's done enough - took Slaughtneil for 6 weeks of the year after they got put out of football? and Tyrone? hardly a tier 1 manager.


And Gleeson's CV was?

Was he not backroom before manager? obviously impressed. Dont think mcshane would be a good move

Franko

Quote from: NorthAntrim on May 28, 2024, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: Franko on May 28, 2024, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: JonnyD_ on May 28, 2024, 10:45:28 AMdont think he's done enough - took Slaughtneil for 6 weeks of the year after they got put out of football? and Tyrone? hardly a tier 1 manager.


And Gleeson's CV was?

Was he not backroom before manager? obviously impressed. Dont think mcshane would be a good move

Think he was tbf.

But let's face it - his entire managerial CV consisted of being in the backroom team of a Tier 2 county (at the time).  And he's from Tipp.

NAG1

Quote from: paddyjohn on May 28, 2024, 01:11:00 PMMicky McShane would be a good shout in my opinion. Dick O'Kane also or would Johnny Campbell or Close want to take it on? Any of the underage coaches inside the county set up ready to step up? I hope Gleeson stays on another year as it's all been positive from players about him. We'll have to pay top dollar no matter who it is from outside.

Or inside now the precedent is there.