it was a joke last year 1 group of 4 and a group of 3. the group of three all qualified without really having a competitive game and then each of them lost their next round! nobody benefited in that group. i think carey stepped up a few years ago (might have been Div 1, not champo) as did clooney after winning intermediate hopefully they do the same this year. creggan deservedly got some sh12 for their actions last year.