Refugees

Started by Mayo4Sam14, September 03, 2015, 04:42:21 PM

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Mayo4Sam

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So what ur saying ur is that ur all for helping people but only when everything else is sorted out is it??
What an absolutely outrageous concept. By that measure we shouldn't give any aid because we need the money here to solve problems

What would you say if these refugees were from Palestine?

U hop from one side of the argument to the other across different threads depending on who u deem needy, ur a walking contradiction


And finishing ur posts with "wheres your argument again?" is ridiculous when you are this wrong and hypocritical
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 04:07:43 PM
So what ur saying ur is that ur all for helping people but only when everything else is sorted out is it??
What an absolutely outrageous concept. By that measure we shouldn't give any aid because we need the money here to solve problems

What would you say if these refugees were from Palestine?

U hop from one side of the argument to the other across different threads depending on who u deem needy, ur a walking contradiction


And finishing ur posts with "wheres your argument again?" is ridiculous when you are this wrong and hypocritical

How about fixing something properly before moving on to the next issue. If you're going to build a house of cards surely that doesn't really help anyone in the long run.

I'd say the same about palestine or anywhere else for that matter.

You haven't got an argument which is why I keep highlighting it.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mayo4Sam

Highlighting what? I think refugees should be welcomed here

I think you jump from Billy to Jack across threads
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

armaghniac

The Germans have fecked up here big time. With allowing in vast numbers of youths of dubious origin, who had been rioting at the Hungarian border and elsewhere, and having this idling about the place it was always likely that some sort of flareup would occur.With this likelihood more police were needed and had these been deployed it would have been a storm in a teacup. We've had these events, the attempted cover up, and the inevitable mealy mouthed excuses from the usual sources both lefties who see no evil and bureaucrats covering their arsch. THis will lead to a significant shift in public opinion when deploying a few police in advance would have sorted it.

I've often travelled at the New Year and been in Germany several times, although not Cologne. Generally festivities are good natured, the only place I encounted these mobs was in Brussels.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Highlighting what? I think refugees should be welcomed here

I think you jump from Billy to Jack across threads

Who's going to fund these refugees and how many do you think the government should invite.
If there is already a 10% unemployment rate (not counting the scambridge figures) where will refugees find work to sustain themselves? Surely that would mean layoffs for currently employed people if they get undercut on wages.


Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mayo4Sam

Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Highlighting what? I think refugees should be welcomed here

I think you jump from Billy to Jack across threads

Who's going to fund these refugees and how many do you think the government should invite.
If there is already a 10% unemployment rate (not counting the scambridge figures) where will refugees find work to sustain themselves? Surely that would mean layoffs for currently employed people if they get undercut on wages.

Theres an 8.9% unemployment rate
As I said before these people are much more likely to get a job than the likes who won't pay their taxes and sponge off the state
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 05:41:12 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 05:37:10 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 04:35:32 PM
Highlighting what? I think refugees should be welcomed here

I think you jump from Billy to Jack across threads

Who's going to fund these refugees and how many do you think the government should invite.
If there is already a 10% unemployment rate (not counting the scambridge figures) where will refugees find work to sustain themselves? Surely that would mean layoffs for currently employed people if they get undercut on wages.

Theres an 8.9% unemployment rate
As I said before these people are much more likely to get a job than the likes who won't pay their taxes and sponge off the state

So jobs appear out of thin air in your world.

If a position arises surely you want to try fill it with one of the 8.9% who don't have one to give them an income.


Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

macdanger2

Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??


foxcommander

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

How many irish have gone to Australia expecting handouts from their government for free. You wont last too long if you don't work or have some cash to keep you going.
And don't you need to have police clearance to get an oz visa in the first place?

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

whitey

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

Of course there will be a criminal element among any ethnic group, but this wasn't one or two or a handful of bad apples giving everyone else a bad name.

This was ONE THOUSAND bad apples, all with a total disregard for the law and for the safety and wellbeing of the people who have opened their doors and laid out a welcome mat for them

This is very scary and people should concerned

armaghniac

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

macdanger2

Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 03:52:44 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

How many irish have gone to Australia expecting handouts from their government for free. You wont last too long if you don't work or have some cash to keep you going.
And don't you need to have police clearance to get an oz visa in the first place?

No, you don't need police clearance to get an Australian visa

Regardless of whether they get handouts, should all irish be judged on the back of the actions of some irish abroad?

macdanger2

Quote from: whitey on January 08, 2016, 05:55:13 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

Of course there will be a criminal element among any ethnic group, but this wasn't one or two or a handful of bad apples giving everyone else a bad name.

This was ONE THOUSAND bad apples, all with a total disregard for the law and for the safety and wellbeing of the people who have opened their doors and laid out a welcome mat for them

This is very scary and people should concerned

Tbf, that report says "between 500 and 1000" but yes people should be concerned and definitely yes the cops should be clamping down hard on anything like this. Blaming the entire refugee population isn't the answer though

foxcommander

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 03:52:44 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

How many irish have gone to Australia expecting handouts from their government for free. You wont last too long if you don't work or have some cash to keep you going.
And don't you need to have police clearance to get an oz visa in the first place?

No, you don't need police clearance to get an Australian visa

Regardless of whether they get handouts, should all irish be judged on the back of the actions of some irish abroad?

But you still have to apply for the visa before travelling there which means they can do their homework on their end prior to your arrival.  Not just land up in a country and demand stuff.

You're judging the behaviour of the people who have travelled, not the ones who havent.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

whitey

Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 06:18:57 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 08, 2016, 03:52:44 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 08, 2016, 12:42:42 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

Did you think there would be no criminals among the 800k refugees arriving in Germany?? Anyone breaking the law in a serious manner like this should do a stint in jail and then be out on his arse.

Do you think all irish people should be judged based on some of the knackers that have left here for Australia, etc over the past few years??

How many irish have gone to Australia expecting handouts from their government for free. You wont last too long if you don't work or have some cash to keep you going.
And don't you need to have police clearance to get an oz visa in the first place?

No, you don't need police clearance to get an Australian visa

Regardless of whether they get handouts, should all irish be judged on the back of the actions of some irish abroad?

But you still have to apply for the visa before travelling there which means they can do their homework on their end prior to your arrival.  Not just land up in a country and demand stuff.

You're judging the behaviour of the people who have travelled, not the ones who havent.

I know a lad who got turned down for a Canadia. Work visa over a dangerous driving charge-did a handbrake turn in an empty car park and a Garda spotted him.  Came up when Canadian Embassy did the background check