Refugees

Started by Mayo4Sam14, September 03, 2015, 04:42:21 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

macdanger2

Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

whitey

Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but

seafoid

Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but
Sexual assaults were a feature of the chaos in egypt in 2011

Most refugees are decent people. Irish history in the Shtates, remember? Racism tarring the all justified by the unacceptable behavior of the few.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Lecale2

The sexual assaults in Germany by organised gangs of young men are probably more about attitudes to women in certain societies.

Esmarelda

Quote from: whitey on January 07, 2016, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: macdanger2 on January 07, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Quote from: whitey on January 06, 2016, 11:57:56 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/06/tensions-rise-in-germany-over-handling-of-mass-sexual-assaults-in-cologne

Delighted to see that the poor refugees are behaving themselves and assimilating into German society

It's probably worth noting that:

Quoteneither the identity nor origin of any of them has so far been established.

And with ~ 800k refugees having arrived in Germany, do you really expect none of them to be criminals?? These men should be dealt with in the same way as anyone else who breaks the law rather than used as sticks to beat the law abiding majority with.

Well I read several reports on what happened including the BBC report:

"City police chief Wolfgang Albers called it "a completely new dimension of crime". The men were of Arab or North African appearance, he said."

Stop making excuses and apologies for these fvckers-many if those claiming to be refugees are anything but
So if everyone was to say what happened was wrong and that it was definitely refugees that carried out these attack what is your point exactly?

Mayo4Sam

Quote from: foxcommander on January 06, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 06, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 06, 2016, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 06, 2016, 05:44:56 PM
"Fox commander, you seem to be a socialist when it suits you, judging by posts on other threads?
Is it an a la carte version you adhere to?
Because what you're talking about about would fall under a kind of totalitarian dictatorship political model and I'm quiet sure you don't want to pledge allegiance to Enda."

The above is a contradiction in principles

Erm...you wrote that piece above. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I've contradicted myself in my comments.
You understand the concept of ideology?
Well ur comments on the FG thread suggest ur a socialist?
Whether ur views on refugees is completely the opposite ideology.
There's the contradiction

Again, please show me where I have contradicted myself in my comments.

Your problem is that in your narrow view you want to try pigeon-hole people into a category. I prefer to make judgements on what I see, not blindly guided by some ideology you've defined.

Let's play the Mayo4Sam Ideology game

A) Don't like Irish Water or Fine Gael - you must be a socialist
B) Don't agree with unvetted "refugees" or "asylum seekers" being allowed into Ireland  - therefore you must approve of a "totalitarian dictatorship political model" and be a fan of Enda Kenny

Choices choices....

Ok so.....
Below is in direct contradiction to what you say about refugees, who are currently alive and need help and therefore meet your requirements below.

"While there are those who are now demanding something to be done about a situation that is known to have stopped over 50 years ago you fail to see my point about doing something for those who are currently alive and need help. Is this cynical, callous or maybe practical?
The population should concentrate their energies on the things they can change and make a difference for. "

"More like the "I'm alright Jack" mentality we've come to know and love"

And you're a socialist because you're a SF/IRA supporter
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 02:03:03 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 06, 2016, 09:49:53 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 06, 2016, 09:33:15 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 06, 2016, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 06, 2016, 05:44:56 PM
"Fox commander, you seem to be a socialist when it suits you, judging by posts on other threads?
Is it an a la carte version you adhere to?
Because what you're talking about about would fall under a kind of totalitarian dictatorship political model and I'm quiet sure you don't want to pledge allegiance to Enda."

The above is a contradiction in principles

Erm...you wrote that piece above. I'm still waiting for you to show me where I've contradicted myself in my comments.
You understand the concept of ideology?
Well ur comments on the FG thread suggest ur a socialist?
Whether ur views on refugees is completely the opposite ideology.
There's the contradiction

Again, please show me where I have contradicted myself in my comments.

Your problem is that in your narrow view you want to try pigeon-hole people into a category. I prefer to make judgements on what I see, not blindly guided by some ideology you've defined.

Let's play the Mayo4Sam Ideology game

A) Don't like Irish Water or Fine Gael - you must be a socialist
B) Don't agree with unvetted "refugees" or "asylum seekers" being allowed into Ireland  - therefore you must approve of a "totalitarian dictatorship political model" and be a fan of Enda Kenny

Choices choices....

Ok so.....
Below is in direct contradiction to what you say about refugees, who are currently alive and need help and therefore meet your requirements below.

"While there are those who are now demanding something to be done about a situation that is known to have stopped over 50 years ago you fail to see my point about doing something for those who are currently alive and need help. Is this cynical, callous or maybe practical?
The population should concentrate their energies on the things they can change and make a difference for. "

"More like the "I'm alright Jack" mentality we've come to know and love"

And you're a socialist because you're a SF/IRA supporter

No idea what the top quote is about.  I can't be arsed searching so you can let me know.

What context was the bottom quote taken from?  I've been clear about my opposition to letting in refugees unvetted into europe without restrictions. I have stated that help should be given to them (and potentially some temporary visas in europe) but surely the answer isn't to move them to europe full time - a solution needs to be found in their own country.

Please let me know where I've stated I'm a socialist SF/IRA supporter. You sound like Gregory Campbell when you call them that.

To me you sound like a bleeding heart liberal who wants all these bogus asylum seekers sponging off welfare, gangs roaming the countryside robbing isolated houses, then pleading for mercy when they get caught in the act.
That's why the country is going to hell.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mayo4Sam

No, I'm a capitalist, I'd like all the SF/IRA supporters and those who vote for Murphy, Ming, Wallace and Clare Daly to pay their taxes and support the working masses. I'd reduce social welfare to enough for people to live on and I'd kick people off unemployment welfare after a short length of time, we have more people in work in Ireland than ever before.
I'd also give refuge to people who deserve it and are probably more educated, more willing to work and more use to society than the people who vote for SF/IRA, Murphy, Ming, Wallace or Clare Daly.
But thats just me.

And I literally have no idea who Gregory Campbell is, I'm guessing a soccer manager or one of them celebrity shows, either way I couldn't give a f**k if I sound like him.
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 02:42:47 PM
And I literally have no idea who Gregory Campbell is, I'm guessing a soccer manager or one of them celebrity shows, either way I couldn't give a f**k if I sound like him.

Gregory Campbell is the manager of Derry GAA senior county footballers and a member of Boyzone.
You should read more.

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

screenexile

Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 02:42:47 PM
And I literally have no idea who Gregory Campbell is, I'm guessing a soccer manager or one of them celebrity shows, either way I couldn't give a f**k if I sound like him.

Gregory Campbell is the manager of Derry GAA senior county footballers and a member of Boyzone.
You should read more.

Easy easy!!! No need to ruin the reputation of a fine institution like Derry GAA in your petty squabbles!!!

PS M4S Campbell was the esteemed DUP MLA who's attempt at addressing the Speaker of Stormont in Irish amounted to "Curry my yoghurt can coca colier"

foxcommander

Quote from: screenexile on January 07, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on January 07, 2016, 02:48:17 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 02:42:47 PM
And I literally have no idea who Gregory Campbell is, I'm guessing a soccer manager or one of them celebrity shows, either way I couldn't give a f**k if I sound like him.

Gregory Campbell is the manager of Derry GAA senior county footballers and a member of Boyzone.
You should read more.

Easy easy!!! No need to ruin the reputation of a fine institution like Derry GAA in your petty squabbles!!!

PS M4S Campbell was the esteemed DUP MLA who's attempt at addressing the Speaker of Stormont in Irish amounted to "Curry my yoghurt can coca colier"

For the benefit of Mayo4Sam I should have said Gregory Campbell is the manager of Londonderry GAA senior county footballers.

His grasp of politics might prevent him from recognising certain placenames




Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mayo4Sam

I've an excellent grasp of politics
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 03:20:34 PM
I've an excellent grasp of politics

Yet you've never heard of Gregory Campbell?

Do you mean 26 county politics only?
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Mayo4Sam

Well northern politics has no impact on me, at all

But nice deflection from your contradictions, going back to that, you're all for helping people who need help so long as they are Irish/European? Or is it just some Europeans? I'm guessing the Romanians mightn't be getting your help?

But your against the "I'm alright Jack" mentality

And you don't see that as a contradiction?
Excuse me for talking while you're trying to interrupt me

foxcommander

Quote from: Mayo4Sam on January 07, 2016, 03:45:12 PM
Well northern politics has no impact on me, at all

But nice deflection from your contradictions, going back to that, you're all for helping people who need help so long as they are Irish/European? Or is it just some Europeans? I'm guessing the Romanians mightn't be getting your help?

But your against the "I'm alright Jack" mentality

And you don't see that as a contradiction?

But you claim to have an excellent grasp of politics. In one jurisdiction.

Before sorting out world issues the government should sort out the problems closer to home. Homelessness and child poverty are still rife and getting worse by the day but are continually being swept under the carpet at home - no-one at the top wants to admit theres a serious f*%ing issue going on. Shouldn't these be addressed before starting to tackle an issue which is a product of greedy nations fighting over resources and territories.

Instead the focus has shifted to the flooding taskforce which will be forgotten about when the weather picks up. Next month it will be another taskforce about some other issue. And it goes on....keep the sheep preoccupied by the crisis of the day. Nothing really gets fully solved.

As I said before aid should be given to these genuine refugees. Now, where's your argument again?

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie