County Manager Merry go round

[JoG2]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

[LC]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

They would have form in this regard.

[Rossfan]

Sound like another Rhubarb heave on the way😁🙄

[Blowitupref]

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

Mayo clearly don't have the same calibre of players as they had 2012 to 2017 though probably think they should be doing better than their last two championships which was 2023 Quarter final exit by a margin of 12 points and this summer when they didn't reach the last eight. 

[Tubberman]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

The counter-argument is to ask if Mayo are maximising their potential.
I think the view of most people within the county is No, they are not.
The approach has been far too cautious.
I don't have a clue what the mgmt team are like in terms of levels of preparation, fostering a team atmosphere etc, but the soundings aren't great.

[marty34]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

I agree. People and supporters think they have a right to be in the running for All-Irelands.

People need to be honest. Like Mayo, for example. The players are not there at the minute. They are clearly down the pecking order.

Changing a mnager will not change this fact.

Supporters etc. ned to be realistic.   

[Mayo Mick]

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it."

Best solution if you lose the dressing room is to get a new dressing room!

[Armagh18]

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

Mayo clearly don't have the same calibre of players as they had 2012 to 2017 though probably think they should be doing better than their last two championships which was 2023 Quarter final exit by a margin of 12 points and this summer when they didn't reach the last eight.

Have they player that are that far behind Armagh or Donegal for example?

Probably not, but they shouldn't be as far behind as they have been the last couple of years.

[JoG2]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

The counter-argument is to ask if Mayo are maximising their potential.
I think the view of most people within the county is No, they are not.
The approach has been far too cautious.
I don't have a clue what the mgmt team are like in terms of levels of preparation, fostering a team atmosphere etc, but the soundings aren't great.

The counter counter argument is, what is the current Mayo panel's potential?
You lose the likes of Keegan, Boyle, S O'Shea, Parsons, Moran and have an older Durkin, injury ridden C O'Connor, what is the potential of this current Mayo team? Conroy is serious forward to replace an O'Connor or Moran, but flatters to deceive. O'Flynn, not consistent enough.
These things often work in cycles, but from the outside looking in, and I'm a huge admirer of Mayo, I honestly think the county is just about, in the pecking order, where it should be atm.. Hope I'm proved wrong

[JoG2]

PS: ask those who want a replacement, who they have in mind to push things on. See Derry for example

[WT4E]

So MOR is new Tyrone Manager I've seen plenty of Derry wans debating about why would he not come to them.... simple.

Tyrone is a big job.... Derrys a wee job.

[Tubberman]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

The counter-argument is to ask if Mayo are maximising their potential.
I think the view of most people within the county is No, they are not.
The approach has been far too cautious.
I don't have a clue what the mgmt team are like in terms of levels of preparation, fostering a team atmosphere etc, but the soundings aren't great.

The counter counter argument is, what is the current Mayo panel's potential?
You lose the likes of Keegan, Boyle, S O'Shea, Parsons, Moran and have an older Durkin, injury ridden C O'Connor, what is the potential of this current Mayo team? Conroy is serious forward to replace an O'Connor or Moran, but flatters to deceive. O'Flynn, not consistent enough.
These things often work in cycles, but from the outside looking in, and I'm a huge admirer of Mayo, I honestly think the county is just about, in the pecking order, where it should be atm.. Hope I'm proved wrong

I agree, the current panel simply isn't at the level of the 2012-2017 panel, but with respect, I would hold that Mayo team (12-17) above most, if not all, current county teams.
There are still good young players on that Mayo panel - McBrien, Callinan, Conroy, and players who should be coming into their prime like Flynn, McLaughlin, O'Donoghue etc

I'm not saying McStay has to go - there's no obvious Messiah waiting for the call.

But they have under-achieved in the last couple of years imo.
Should have beaten Galway this year but didn't, should have beaten Dublin this year but didn't, should have beaten Derry this year but didn't.

[ardtole]

Sounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

[JoG2]

From MayoNews.ie

A review into the 2024 season between the Mayo GAA county board and the senior management team is ongoing and due to be completed in the next couple of weeks.

A discussion around the ongoing review was initiated at Wednesday's county board meeting by Garrymore delegate John Farragher, who claimed that players and supporters are 'not happy' with the current state of the Mayo senior team.

"A lot of people are not happy, they want change,"

"And questionnaires sent out to players, I'm hearing players are not happy. This sends out alarm bells. What I'm saying, if you lose a dressing room...you can forget about it.

"I can tell you, I go to a lot of games and the supporters, the genuine people going through the turnstiles are not happy," he added.

Louisburgh delegate, John Gibbons, echoed his sentiments, saying: "People are not happy with our selectors, our coaches, people are not happy. And that's out there and it's out there big time."

Is it not down to the fact that Mayo do not have the same calibre of players atm? You can whoop and wail all you want, but if the players aren't there to compete at the very top level, you're wasting your time? Or show the county how much it means to you by throwing the present management team under the bus...

The counter-argument is to ask if Mayo are maximising their potential.
I think the view of most people within the county is No, they are not.
The approach has been far too cautious.
I don't have a clue what the mgmt team are like in terms of levels of preparation, fostering a team atmosphere etc, but the soundings aren't great.

The counter counter argument is, what is the current Mayo panel's potential?
You lose the likes of Keegan, Boyle, S O'Shea, Parsons, Moran and have an older Durkin, injury ridden C O'Connor, what is the potential of this current Mayo team? Conroy is serious forward to replace an O'Connor or Moran, but flatters to deceive. O'Flynn, not consistent enough.
These things often work in cycles, but from the outside looking in, and I'm a huge admirer of Mayo, I honestly think the county is just about, in the pecking order, where it should be atm.. Hope I'm proved wrong

I agree, the current panel simply isn't at the level of the 2012-2017 panel, but with respect, I would hold that Mayo team (12-17) above most, if not all, current county teams.
There are still good young players on that Mayo panel - McBrien, Callinan, Conroy, and players who should be coming into their prime like Flynn, McLaughlin, O'Donoghue etc

I'm not saying McStay has to go - there's no obvious Messiah waiting for the call.

But they have under-achieved in the last couple of years imo.
Should have beaten Galway this year but didn't, should have beaten Dublin this year but didn't, should have beaten Derry this year but didn't.

Unless there is a potential manager out there that is jumping out at Mayo, then now is the time to let the head rule the heart, and back McStay and his team to learn from the last season or two, imo

[Tubberman]

Sounds similar to a lot of Armagh fans after the Ulster final.

Great, if we stick with McStay for another 8 years we should see some results