Antrim Football Thread

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paddyjohn

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 10:37:11 AMThey're separate. So moneyglass will play in division 2 and senior championship next year. (They will maybe have the option to drop down but qualify to play sfc).

Feasibly glenravel could be division 1 and intermediate championship.

Makes sense now! Good man

Round or stuffed

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 31, 2024, 01:12:31 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 10:37:11 AMThey're separate. So moneyglass will play in division 2 and senior championship next year. (They will maybe have the option to drop down but qualify to play sfc).

Feasibly glenravel could be division 1 and intermediate championship.

Makes sense now! Good man

This isn't true, relegation in championship is relegation in league too, otherwise Ardoyne could be eligible to be relegated to junior championship, they already are relegated to junior championship because they were relegated in the league

imtommygunn

It is true otherwise what was the point in the league relegation playoffs?

Maybe it's different in intermediate but pretty sure that's how it is in senior.

inabsentia

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 02:40:04 PMIt is true otherwise what was the point in the league relegation playoffs?

Maybe it's different in intermediate but pretty sure that's how it is in senior.

Nah you're wrong there.

One is relegated via league and one is relegated via champo. So the worst performing team goes down for both.

This was the whole idea laid out at the start of the year with having them coupled.

So two teams up and down for each league/champo

EOC1923

All this is very confusing, also playing the final games of each of the individual groups at different times/ days makes no sense at all, no suprise there  :'( 

paddyjohn

Quote from: inabsentia on August 31, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 02:40:04 PMIt is true otherwise what was the point in the league relegation playoffs?

Maybe it's different in intermediate but pretty sure that's how it is in senior.

Nah you're wrong there.

One is relegated via league and one is relegated via champo. So the worst performing team goes down for both.

This was the whole idea laid out at the start of the year with having them coupled.

So two teams up and down for each league/champo

So you're saying Glenravel could still be relegated to Div2? This is buck daft and worse than the 11plus

Hoof Hearted

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 31, 2024, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: inabsentia on August 31, 2024, 03:50:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 02:40:04 PMIt is true otherwise what was the point in the league relegation playoffs?

Maybe it's different in intermediate but pretty sure that's how it is in senior.

Nah you're wrong there.

One is relegated via league and one is relegated via champo. So the worst performing team goes down for both.

This was the whole idea laid out at the start of the year with having them coupled.

So two teams up and down for each league/champo

So you're saying Glenravel could still be relegated to Div2? This is buck daft and worse than the 11plus

No my version of it is they will be play div 1 next season and depending how they do now in these championship play offs will determine their championship
Like, what was the point of winning a relegation play off, only to be dumped into division 2 anyway
Happened in derry this season, Ballinderry played div 1 and intermediate championship
Lavey div 2 and senior championship
That was determined from last season, same format antrim are doing this season.
Treble 6 Nations Fantasy Rugby champion 2008, 2011 & 2012

Wee Barky

Is it not 1 team relegated via the league and 1 team relegated via the championship ? 2 teams in total to go down, 2 up.

Championship entries are separate to league.


inabsentia

Quote from: Wee Barky on August 31, 2024, 07:40:55 PMIs it not 1 team relegated via the league and 1 team relegated via the championship ? 2 teams in total to go down, 2 up.

Championship entries are separate to league.



Aye one by champo and one by league, but they're aligned so both teams are in div 2 and intermediate

imtommygunn

What if ballymena win the intermediate? This isn't how I thought it was at all.Makes no sense at all though doesn't mean it isn't right!

Beirbua2024

Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 08:40:04 PMWhat if ballymena win the intermediate? This isn't how I thought it was at all.Makes no sense at all though doesn't mean it isn't right!

Ballymena have secured div1 football and senior championship status already with their league performance. So the losing finalist will take the promotion spot unless its St Paul's as they too have secured their div1/senior championship status by winning div2. Then I don't know what happens but if Sarsfields play St Teresa's in the semi final of intermediate then the winner is guaranteed promotion.

It gets even more complicated as if Dunloy reach the semi of Senior they will be graded once again so the 2 teams that lose their relegation playoff semi will not play a final and both will go down and Dunloy promoted as well, unless they elect to play div2 and intermediate themselves in 2025.

All this I read in the Football workshop proposal which the clubs then voted through but having spoke to a few on that panel they didn't even know about losing finalists getting promoted if the winners are already div1 next year so this could all kick off unless the County provide clarity on it before it gets too late.

Around the glens

Going by reports then Aghagallon have to win by 5 or more to qualify?


inabsentia

Quote from: Beirbua2024 on August 31, 2024, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 08:40:04 PMWhat if ballymena win the intermediate? This isn't how I thought it was at all.Makes no sense at all though doesn't mean it isn't right!

Ballymena have secured div1 football and senior championship status already with their league performance. So the losing finalist will take the promotion spot unless its St Paul's as they too have secured their div1/senior championship status by winning div2. Then I don't know what happens but if Sarsfields play St Teresa's in the semi final of intermediate then the winner is guaranteed promotion.

It gets even more complicated as if Dunloy reach the semi of Senior they will be graded once again so the 2 teams that lose their relegation playoff semi will not play a final and both will go down and Dunloy promoted as well, unless they elect to play div2 and intermediate themselves in 2025.

All this I read in the Football workshop proposal which the clubs then voted through but having spoke to a few on that panel they didn't even know about losing finalists getting promoted if the winners are already div1 next year so this could all kick off unless the County provide clarity on it before it gets too late.


Won't that also end up with odd numbers in senior champ? 2 up in champ (Ballymena and another) as well as St Pauls in league. Also another team added to league as Dunloy can elect to move to div 1 in that.

Again, county should have bitten the bullet and made Dunloy work up the grades and actually have everything aligned in the first place.

Issue is that Dunloy in league and championship are complete different teams

Around the glens

Well as sure as God they were well looked after. Stood behind a goal and one of his umpires having verbals with a Dunloy player calling them shite and gutless.

Quote from: Would ye whist on August 27, 2024, 11:49:17 AMLD getting a nice wee looking after also to ensure they finish top of their group  :o

Quote from: paddyjohn on August 26, 2024, 07:00:55 PM
Quote from: Ghost+Tommy on August 26, 2024, 06:38:12 PMJesus Totes reffing the south belfasties again,aghagallon better hope he's not as biased as he was against kickums,when they played against them,

They look after their own surely. Near as bad as the SFA.

Beirbua2024

Quote from: inabsentia on September 01, 2024, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: Beirbua2024 on August 31, 2024, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2024, 08:40:04 PMWhat if ballymena win the intermediate? This isn't how I thought it was at all.Makes no sense at all though doesn't mean it isn't right!

Ballymena have secured div1 football and senior championship status already with their league performance. So the losing finalist will take the promotion spot unless its St Paul's as they too have secured their div1/senior championship status by winning div2. Then I don't know what happens but if Sarsfields play St Teresa's in the semi final of intermediate then the winner is guaranteed promotion.

It gets even more complicated as if Dunloy reach the semi of Senior they will be graded once again so the 2 teams that lose their relegation playoff semi will not play a final and both will go down and Dunloy promoted as well, unless they elect to play div2 and intermediate themselves in 2025.

All this I read in the Football workshop proposal which the clubs then voted through but having spoke to a few on that panel they didn't even know about losing finalists getting promoted if the winners are already div1 next year so this could all kick off unless the County provide clarity on it before it gets too late.


Won't that also end up with odd numbers in senior champ? 2 up in champ (Ballymena and another) as well as St Pauls in league. Also another team added to league as Dunloy can elect to move to div 1 in that.

Again, county should have bitten the bullet and made Dunloy work up the grades and actually have everything aligned in the first place.

Issue is that Dunloy in league and championship are complete different teams

My understanding is that Moneyglass are down via league and if Dunloy are graded 2 would be relegated from championship ie the 2 losing relegation semi finalist.

Completely agree its been allowed to run too long without clarification on what actually is happening.