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Jases Keyzer you've some paranoia about change ;D
Anyway anyone with half a brain would want something done about the abomination that is throwball.
That and the non stop possession borefest are the main (interlinked) problems.
We want more contests for possession and the ball in play more.
Will the current proposals give us this though?

Are you out to get me  ;D

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Is there any other sport that introduces as many rule changes and trials as Gaelic football?
The AFL are concerned about some aspects of their game especially possession and bunching.
They are looking at some changes too to alleviate these.
The fact that people here and HQ are suggesting changes is a sure indication all is not well with the game at present.

As for the proposed changes I hear some " tidying" of the Sin bin will take place before CC considers the changes.
One change I'd love to see is an end to "throw points" >:(

Sure, I know that every sport tweaks its rules, formats etc on an ongoing basis, but for as long as I can remember there has been a constant barrage of tinkering with formats, playing rules etc in GAA. It is a never ending process of change change change and where has it got us??

It appears from the media, and indeed this board, that we are at the to the stage where people are talking about the demise of Gaelic football despite there being an constant stream of changes to playing rules over the past 25+ years.

There is a constant clamour for change ... change this... change that .. change the other... and everyone has an opinion and a suggestion about what needs to be done to make the game perfect. I don't think I have ever seen a poster or pundit who has made a suggestion to amend rules who has given a single line of consideration to the down side of the changes they might propose, everyone only sees the merit in their own proposal. Maybe they need to re examine some of the changes already made which have contributed to the situation we are in now instead of mooting further changes to alleviate problems caused by previously introduced rules.

The latest proposals from this working group could have been formulated by any schoolboy reading this forum for a couple of weeks. And these are the people who are supposed to the Brains Trust of our organisation.

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The people who proposed this probably got their ideas from one of the regular threads on here pontificating that we need to "DO SOMETHING".

Most of their proposals have been proposed on here at some stage, and many of them in multple threads.

Is there any other sport that introduces as many rule changes and trials as Gaelic football?


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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:39:13 AM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of £500m that at least £120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

You do not seem to understand what the term financial doping actually means. Having a large fan base and generating more revenue than other teams is a legitimate sporting and business model. Getting a massive handout from a random foreigner with no relation to what the club is able to generate from its own resources is an entirely different matter. It is the latter which is termed financial doping. Man Utd have suffered from the exact reverse of financial doping for the past decade, having had an owner who has used them as a cash cow from which money can be siphoned off at an enormous rate. 

Though I don't see why Real Madrid have any grounds to complain as they have benefitted from massive financial doping for decades.

And to the poster eulogizing Leicester's achievement as a strike against financial doping .. it appears to have slipped your mind  that they were taken over by a Thai billionairre, the recently deceased Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha RIP, which was the sole reason they were able to challenge for a title.

In no way was that Leicester team acquired in the manner of financial doping, it was an exercise in top class scouting and a fairytale season. Yes the Thai billionaire owns the club.

Are you seriously postulating that it wasn't his money that won them the league?

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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 11:33:18 AM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of £500m that at least £120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

You do not seem to understand what the term financial doping actually means. Having a large fan base and generating more revenue than other teams is a legitimate sporting and business model. Getting a massive handout from a random foreigner with no relation to what the club is able to generate from its own resources is an entirely different matter. It is the latter which is termed financial doping. Man Utd have suffered from the exact reverse of financial doping for the past decade, having had an owner who has used them as a cash cow from which money can be siphoned off at an enormous rate. 

Though I don't see why Real Madrid have any grounds to complain as they have benefitted from massive financial doping for decades.

And to the poster eulogizing Leicester's achievement as a strike against financial doping .. it appears to have slipped your mind  that they were taken over by a Thai billionairre, the recently deceased Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha RIP, which was the sole reason they were able to challenge for a title.
On a side note I am always interested when GAA people say something like this regarding soccer. Because they are generally the same people who give off about Dublin and unfair competition. And yes I am aware that the GAA is amateur before anyone asks.

On a side note you saying this in relation to me is nonsense.

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General discussion / Re: man city new invincibles
« on: November 08, 2018, 10:30:31 AM »
Its mental stuff if true, little or no coverage thus far but I see journos on Twitter starting to call it out now..

Here's today revelations, I'm sure link to previous articles is in it.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/manchester-city-exposed-chapter-3-recruiting-pep-guardiola-a-1236621.html

Heres the original overview.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/football-leaks-manchester-city-paris-saint-germain-gianni-infantino-a-1236277.html

I know a bit about football revenues and it was obvious what City were up to but didn't know to that extent. They've not just broken the rules they've absolutely taken the piss out of it. The likelihood is that of City's turnover of £500m that at least £120m is complete fabrication. They wouldn't have won any of those league titles without doing so.

The Glazers don't care as its not really affecting them too much but can see why the likes of Real, Barca & Bayern want something done about it.
Are your concerns, and the concerns of Real, Barca and Bayern for ethical reasons, or purely because City can now challenge you all for honours? I don't remember too many concerns from United fans or fans of other big clubs of the financial advantages they had and still have over their fellow competitors? And lets be honest that advantage is significantly greater than any advantage City now exert over their immediate rivals. Financial doping ruined the competiveness of professional football a long time before City came on the scene, so don't expect the average fan to shed tears for United and other big clubs that don't like what City are doing.

You do not seem to understand what the term financial doping actually means. Having a large fan base and generating more revenue than other teams is a legitimate sporting and business model. Getting a massive handout from a random foreigner with no relation to what the club is able to generate from its own resources is an entirely different matter. It is the latter which is termed financial doping. Man Utd have suffered from the exact reverse of financial doping for the past decade, having had an owner who has used them as a cash cow from which money can be siphoned off at an enormous rate. 

Though I don't see why Real Madrid have any grounds to complain as they have benefitted from massive financial doping for decades.

And to the poster eulogizing Leicester's achievement as a strike against financial doping .. it appears to have slipped your mind  that they were taken over by a Thai billionairre, the recently deceased Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha RIP, which was the sole reason they were able to challenge for a title.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: November 05, 2018, 09:44:47 AM »
I see this thread is on Page 888. The number of the beast!!

Fake news

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Whatever about February or March  there are usually 27 weekends from the 1st weekend in April to the 1st weekend in October inclusive.
Can we not designate say 11 weekends for Inter County Championships, 11 for Clubs and 5 flexible weekends?
Should be easier when 2 tier All Ireland SFC comes in.
How you distribute those weekends would require a bit of thought but the aimed would be to have all County Finals played by 1st weekend in October.
4 weekends out of 6 in October /November for Provincial Club Championship and second half November 1st weekend in December for All Ireland Club.


The problem with all these plans is the sheer variety of GAA competitions, at club and county level, in both codes. The overall provincial, national and county Master Fixtures plans are almost incomprehensible in their complexity.

Only a tiny minority of clubs take part in provincial Club Championships and only a subset of these take them anyway seriously. I don't think its a good idea to curtail the entire season for everyone, just to suit this minority.

Heh?? What are you talking about, sure the whole thing can be solved in a post that takes 2 minutes to type.

It's the people who are making the fixtures are stupid and know nothing about fixture making is the real problem here.

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General discussion / Re: Shankill Bombing
« on: October 29, 2018, 10:09:06 AM »
G did we get an influx of sinner bots on this! Alot of people have the blinkers on, sending a man into a populated area to let off a bomb indefensible! So they get everyone out of the shop; you think no-one gona die outside when this goes off! What your excuses for putting a man in a car with a bomb then senting them up to police^army check points to get blown up! Suppose it was a war line makes it alright!

Shinner bot? Most certainly not. I'd be extremely critical of SF. But I was born early 70s and lived through a lot of shit so I'm speaking a lot from experience and I hate when someone sitting in an ivory tower somewhere casting judgement on the death of an ordinary young man from Ardoyne who died and labelling him as a mass murderer or a terrorist without any context whatsoever. I hate it worst when those sat in said ivory towers will commemorate Michael Collins, Cathal Brugha et all but then use the "ah but that was different" card.

Horrible things happened and what you mentioned was horrible and indeed a war crime. Not justifying any atrocity or killing. Merely trying to articulate (onto deaf ears it seems) that these people didn't wake up one day and decide to murder people out of bloodthirst but that they were ordinary people living extraordinary lives during a f**king{ war

It is much too simplistic to go full Ruth Dudley Edwards on the issue, which many have done.

So no. Certainly not a Shinner bot. But not a hypocritic either.
With respect to the use of the term 'war', it strikes me that Republicans want to have it both ways.  If it was a 'war' why do Republicans complain when the security forces "executed" IRA terrorsists on 'active service'.  What's wrong with a 'shoot to kill policy' if there is a war going on?  Also, I'm pretty sure murdering greengrocers etc who supplied police and army bases would not be allowed in the Geneva Convention.

Be interested to hear a response to this post.

The usual weasel words I predict ,!!

Where have you guys been for the past 40 years, any cow in the field that lived through the troubles could explain this to you in a minute flat ffs  .

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: October 24, 2018, 09:32:31 AM »
The What the F**k thread turning into an argument about racial profiling of rapists.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: October 22, 2018, 10:48:42 AM »
You're a conundrum to me Whitey. But I do agree with you on many things. Hope the rest of your day is good. I am now going for a walk in Garza's Canyon to think about the Hills of Granemore. Cheers

I actually dislike both parties equally.

Democrats need to get back to their roots-the party of the working people. There’s no room in the modern Democratic Party for anyone who disagrees with any facet of their social agenda

The Republicans are just fvckin idiots. The likes of W, Sarah Palin and Trump are an embarrassment.

I’d love to see a split ticket next time round. Bloomberg/Sasse or Biden/Haley, Bernie/Condaleeza

Any Democrat who was part of the Kavanaugh debacle in now unelectable imho

Here mate do you think people are completely stupid and are going to swallow bollocks like this from a knob like you. 

You are constantly on here criticising the Dems using the exact language of muppets like Trump, Palin et al to do so. At least have the cojones to admit what you really are.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 16, 2018, 03:48:28 PM »
County final week and hardly a single post about the match.

Thought maybe WhiskySteve woulda made a comeback given the week that's in it, he was some craic.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
« on: October 16, 2018, 12:46:55 PM »
Completely delusional stuff from Staunton, the degree of narcissism and self absorption is total.

It is clear there is no substance whatsoever to the previous allusions about an unsafe environment, the only unsafe thing here is anyone getting in the way of Cora's ego by the looks of things.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 12, 2018, 09:46:12 AM »
Irish News report of match:

"After the interval, Coleraine gradually took control. Niall Holly and, in particular, Ruairí Mooney, drove their side on with umpteen raids forward"

Then again, what would they know?!

More than you obviously. You said he was playing as a stopper in the first half which was complete bollocks lad, this comment does not in any way change that.

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Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« on: October 11, 2018, 09:17:14 AM »
My observations from the weekend for what it’s worth.
For excitement and drama, Cargin and St Galls couldn’t be better
Draperstown and Maghera, well just Draperstown and Maghera were always and always will be
I thought we would have made it to a county final before the neighbours
And does Screenexile just post when Draperstown wins or there’s a row somewhere

He has plenty of time to continue his obsession with diving tyrone players now.

Glad somebody misses me!!

We started OK but the goal really killed us and we just found it much harder to get scores than they did. It was a real blow as we all know that Coleraine can shut it down when they’re in front and pick off points on the break when they need them.

Had we used the long ball a bit earlier than the last ten minutes of the second half we could have got back in it I feel but we were too late.

Good to see some of the young lads from last years victorious minor team get some Senior Championship experience ... There’s always next year!!

Who were they?? I didn't think i saw too many new faces for screen on sunday.

Chances are that i'm wrong as i wouldn't be totally familiar with the lads coming through but:
Marty Bradley & Aaron Bradley both started & were minors last year. 
Was Conor McGovern minor last year?
Noel Rafferty & Ryan Doyle both came on.
Add in JP Devlin too (is he still injured)
Screen were very poor on Sunday and Baker's main contribution from the sideline was roaring at the referee. Never a good sign as it normally means that the manager hasn't a notion what is actually happening.  Pushing Mooney to the half-forward line had Screen on the back foot for almost 20 minutes of the second half before anything was done and by then it was too late.

Where had he been playing up to this?
Mooney had played more of a deeper, 'midfield' role in first half, a stopper, if you like. Second half, against the wind, and with his strong running power, he was given the freedom to push forward from a more traditional left half forward position - to great effect.  He is possibly one of the most important players for Eogha Rua this year and given key roles, man marked Chrissy very effectively in their victory over Slaughtneil.

I don't agree with you, he had Coleraine's first 2 shots , both of which were over the bar IMO, one of which was flagged wide but looked over to me, and got another one later on in the half. Was always looking to attack, if anything I thought he played deeper in the 2nd half.

Your 'stopper' comment is nonsense. If I was Screen I wouldn't be asking you to take over from Baker, even if he isn't perfect, any time in the near future if that's your reading of the game.

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