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Who's to say that a few of those lowland Scots Presbyterians that were kicked out of Scotland didn't end up having their great great great great great grandchildren contributing to Tyrone three Sams compared to Londonderry's measly one? I'm reasonably grateful for that! [/quote]
No chance, sure you boys are inbred, you wouldn't be allowing any new blood into the lines.  Although, the picts were tiny wee savage lads and they were scottish, so......

Well my Fiance works in Raditors and sister in law works in the weighing bay in cement and both are dead. The only one holdings it's own is Glass.
The cement is really tailing of. Despite what Anglo are spouting some customers have stopped dealing with them altogether.

I think I said this before SS, but with the economy the way it is and especially the construction (or lack of) industry, how could these companies not be in bother regardless of ownership?

In theory you could put this Confessional Box secrecy bullshit to the test quite easily.  If, for example, you took to burgling churches/priests houses, vandalising Church property, etc. and then went to the same priest in the same confessional box and admitted these crimes against the church to this one priest on a weekly basis, what do you imagine the outsome would be?  Assuming you were never caught and continued to follow this same routine over a number of years, do you honestly think that this one priest would sit there and tell me to say two Our Father's and five Hail Mary's? Bollocks, the church wheels out this sentimental crap when it suits them. It's about controlling the people and making sure your envelope goes into the basket every Sunday...

I'm not sure on the detail Screen as it's been a while since my last confession, but I think the priest doesn't have to administer the sacrament if he doesn't think you're genuinely penitent, by repeating the crime week after week, I'd say he'd probably decide you weren't genuinely penitent.  However, he might be glad of the company for that hour that he normally sits there on his own in the box, so he might indulge you for a year or two.

[no London in Tyrone]

Some people like to go out of their way to be offended.  I don't use the term 'Darkie' to offend anybody from the black/coloured/whatever society (who actually decides what is a legitimate term to describe this section of the community?).  If I caused any offence to our resident crabbit hoors, I apologise. 

In similar terms, if abroad and someone referred to an Irish person as a 'Paddy' would this offend anyone?  It certainly wouldn't offend me.  Judging by some of the reaction on here it seems that there would be a few quite badly offended by this term...or maybe they just like to hear themselves complain and decided to have a moan about a similar term used to describe another group of people...

Quite an ironic post where the point of the thread is among other things, commenting on condemning rioters/looters for having no respect for other people.

Let's replace any references to Derry with Londonderry e.g. Londonderry city, Londonderry GAA etc. along with sprinklings of there being "no London in Tyrone", then sit back with popcorn to enjoy the inevitable... 

Of course there isn't, a well heeled London guildsman would never have wanted to go anywhere near the wild savages of tyrone to make a new life.  At least we got the cultured planters, you boys got stuck way the lowland scots presbyterians who were kicked out of scotland.

[but I think it still worth putting the legislation in place as a matter of principle if nothing else.]

Posted by: Bogball XV

Quote from: Shamrock Shore on Today at 12:06:49 PM

    It's a load of nonsense as a confession to a priest, be it in the confessional or over pints in the pub, would not be held as evidence in a court of law as the defendent wouldn't be under caution that anything he says etc.

exactly, it's just typical political populism - bertie ahern eat your heart out - well done inda.

That may well be the case, but I think it still worth putting the legislation in place as a matter of principle if nothing else.Canon Law does not come above the law of the land - that point needs to be very clear in light of what's gone on in this country. There are still people (including posters on this board) who believe 'the Church' is infallible and it's only a few bad eggs who have carried out the wrongdoing.

No it isn't, it's just bullshit and it really annoys me. 

Imo canon law and civil law are totally separate.  We can't dictate which set of laws people adhere too, but we can and should enforce civil law when it has been violated.  The seal of confessional is a canon law which secular countries the world over have respected, probably because proposals such as FG are putting forward are utterly unenforceable and meaningless.  As I mentioned above, are they going to deny doctor/patient privilege and lawyer/client privileges too?  Are they going to specify which crimes need be reported and which don't?  Will they specify the actions which should be taken by a priest if someone through their confession also points a finger at another person as being involved?  Should the priest start investigating the accusation himself?  Maybe the priest should record all confessions to ensure the accuracy of his evidence, feck it, get a stenographer in.

Phil Mickelson for me. A huge £5 straight. Might do Westwood as well.

I've a couple of quid each way on Cabrera and Edoardo, but it's a minefield for betting if you ask me, as there's very little to go in terms of course history or current form.

David Toms (60/1) won there in the USPGA in 2001.  This year he's probably in the best form he's been since then.
Romero, Garcia, McDowell (170/1), Dustin, Bubba, Noh, Manaserro are all fairly nicely priced too.  I think Romero could be an excellent bet and I think Dustin could give a good showing too.  They reckon this is similar to the US Open course, so Garcia who matched Rory in everything bar putting (which Rory is unlikely to do again for a while) could be a bit of value - don't let him go ahead until the last hole though.

It's a load of nonsense as a confession to a priest, be it in the confessional or over pints in the pub, would not be held as evidence in a court of law as the defendent wouldn't be under caution that anything he says etc.

exactly, it's just typical political populism - bertie ahern eat your heart out - well done inda.

Wasn't there a big comeback in a Meath-Wexford game a couple of years back?

Can't remember who came back or who won!

the game was the same day derry went to ballybofey and won, wexford won as they played in the leinster final that year, but I can't remember if it was they who threw away the lead but ultimately prevailed or if meath threw away the lead.  It was May 2008 iirc.

Meath posters??

why is using the word 'darky' offensive whilst the word 'black' isn't?

Why is the word "nigger" offensive when the word "black" isn't?
Why is the word "coloured" offensive when the word "black" isn't?
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'Coloured' is offensive??  Didn't really know that 'darky' was either tbh, more archaic alright, but I don't see why it should be offensive.
[/quote]The main erm black civil rights body is the NAACP. The C being Colored.
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They're more than 100 years old. That was the acceptable term at the time. Not really acceptable anymore though, presumably because of its Jim Crow/pre-civil rights association.

As for "darkie", whoever thinks its ok to use that should cop the f**k on.
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It seems that it might actually be in the spelling, the term 'coloured' is seen as offensive in the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/6132672.stm

but in the US 'colored' is not necessarily so:

Today it is generally no longer regarded as a politically correct term. However, even that is debatable, due to its continued accepted usage, most notably its use in the acronym NAACP. Carla Sims, communications director for the NAACP in Washington, D.C., said "The term 'colored' is not derogatory, [the NAACP] chose the word 'colored' because it was the most positive description commonly used at that time. It's outdated and antiquated but not offensive." [2]

I personally think that people have little to worry about if they get offended by people using a word that is not intended to be derogatory or offensive.  It's all about context and relationship that exists between the persons involved.  I have asian friends who I've called all sorts of names and they have reciprocated in kind.

Stew is 100% right, if this was America this riot would have been over in about 15 minutes. A crowd of 300 rioters will quickly disperse if you drop two or three of them.  Crazy police tactics with 7 or 8 officers at some stages trying to hold back rioters from running down streets.  The rioters charge and the police retreat.  If the provo's had their heads screwed on years ago they could have dressed up as Policemen years ago, shot a few darkies in London and let them do the dirty work...

FYI
When you use words like "darkies" you don't come across as clever or funny, just a pathetic ****.

why is using the word 'darky' offensive whilst the word 'black' isn't?

Why is the word "nigger" offensive when the word "black" isn't?
Why is the word "coloured" offensive when the word "black" isn't?

'Coloured' is offensive??  Didn't really know that 'darky' was either tbh, more archaic alright, but I don't see why it should be offensive.

The main erm black civil rights body is the NAACP. The C being Colored.

maybe it's all in the spelling

Stew is 100% right, if this was America this riot would have been over in about 15 minutes. A crowd of 300 rioters will quickly disperse if you drop two or three of them.  Crazy police tactics with 7 or 8 officers at some stages trying to hold back rioters from running down streets.  The rioters charge and the police retreat.  If the provo's had their heads screwed on years ago they could have dressed up as Policemen years ago, shot a few darkies in London and let them do the dirty work...

FYI
When you use words like "darkies" you don't come across as clever or funny, just a pathetic ****.

why is using the word 'darky' offensive whilst the word 'black' isn't?

Why is the word "nigger" offensive when the word "black" isn't?
Why is the word "coloured" offensive when the word "black" isn't?

'Coloured' is offensive??  Didn't really know that 'darky' was either tbh, more archaic alright, but I don't see why it should be offensive. 

Stew is 100% right, if this was America this riot would have been over in about 15 minutes. A crowd of 300 rioters will quickly disperse if you drop two or three of them.  Crazy police tactics with 7 or 8 officers at some stages trying to hold back rioters from running down streets.  The rioters charge and the police retreat.  If the provo's had their heads screwed on years ago they could have dressed up as Policemen years ago, shot a few darkies in London and let them do the dirty work...

FYI
When you use words like "darkies" you don't come across as clever or funny, just a pathetic ****.

why is using the word 'darky' offensive whilst the word 'black' isn't?

Complete non-story, showboating from Enda in an effort to show his balls.

I take it by the way Eamon you're in favour of this ludicrous proposed legislation?  How could it possibly be enforced?  Will/should it also apply to doctor/patient and lawyer/client privileged conversations?

Recently discovered Modern Family on a long haul flight, not a weak character in it.

Manny cracks me up

discovered it on a long haul myself - can be very funny, though a few weaker episodes in season 2 - highly recommend it all the same.

Gavin and Stacey well worth a watch, but the christmas specials were rubbish - overlong.

I see your point about Only Fools, it hasn't aged well from the few episodes I've been bothered to look at (not as badly as the Young Ones mind).

Murphy was one of the best goalkeepers I've ever seen under the high ball and has proven himself an excellent shotstopper as well. His best years were in '05 when he kept a clean sheet in a record 5 consecutive games and in '09 were he produced numerous great saves in particular the penalty save v Sligo and one v B Brogan in the 1/4 final.

I remember the saves in '09, Brogan was wrong to go for goal and Murphy made an expected stop.  As for the penalty, every keeper saves one now and again.  In saying that I can't remember him making any specific mistakes, although I always had the impression that he did make a few, did get away with a few?
Anyway, I'll give him solid, but he was never in the top 4/5 in the country imo.