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For all the blather about "Michelle and Emma" and a bright future for NI, it's 2024 and the British are still trying to suppress the truth.  25 people involved in this murder, most of whom were loyalist touts, RUC and UDR members.

Excellent programme that showed the devastation visited on families during the Troubles.

And one active member of the RIR allegedly..

Is your man Swinger Fulton still alive?

He is dead over 20 years ago. Rotting in hell.

[Powerful programme but don't think anything that wasn't already in the public domain came out of it.]

I knew a lot of the story but what got me was the State going after the Coroner, a respected senior judge, for revealing to the families the number of state agents involved.

Powerful programme but don't think anything that wasn't already in the public domain came out of it. Still very important for the family to keep this in the headlines and keep the pressure on.

Wasn't only the cameras on the police station in Toome that weren't working that night, some of the 'locals' in Bellaghy also had mysterious malfunctions.

Horrible times.

There may not have been anything new in it to anyone who knew anything about this. But, I bet many people in the South from both GAA and non-GAA backgrounds probably didn't know much about this story, if anything. In particular the level of a dirty war that was being engaged by the Brits against Northern Catholics and the steps they went to to cover this up. Right the way to the top of the British government. But sure then it was all in our heads!

The utmost respect for the Brown family for what they had to endure at that time and in the intervening years since.

As mentioned already, what a weekend of football that was. 

Derry/Donegal was an intense a game as you will see. 
Thought the two in the middle for Derry were quiet all day and either of them being subdued can only mean bad things for Derry.  A month off to process and learn, so you would think there will be a response to that. 

Donegal were brilliant and got everything spot on tactically.  A high intense gameplan and Derry had no answers.  The only issue is, they only have a week to do their homework on Tyrone and whether they can match that intensity with the quick turnaround remains to be seen. 

Full credit to Cavan, a classic case of throwing the shackles off and going at it nearly got them there.  Tyrone had enough experience to get them over the line.  Again tired bodies will count against them against Donegal.  Hard to see them winning giving how both teams played. 

I think you're giving Derry too much credit there. Donegal bossed the game in every position from the first minute to the last. It was a 6 point hammering.
Derry were very flat, tactically outthought and seemed to be playing like we might have done 3/4 years ago. But a lot of that was down to how good Donegal were.

Tyrone/Cavan are pretty much on a par I believe.
If Donegal play as well again next weekend, they'll have not trouble with Tyrone, the question is can they motivate themselves to that level again?

I'd expect Armagh to beat Down, but it won't be the facile victory some are predicting. Down will compete physically, if they can get their scoring boots on they could rattle Armagh.

Based on the weekends games, Donegal are best placed to win Ulster imo.

Big question for Derry is was this just a blip with eye off the ball? Or have the wheels fallen off under Harte after the high of winning the league.

You don't become a good team with one game and you don't become a bad team with one game.

Cavan have softened Tyrone up for Donegal next week. Anglo Celt is Donegals to lose now.

Still unbeaten at home. Extra time doesn't count

Don't tell Derry that.

Rent free lad. Rent free.

Disappointing result esp the manner of the goals. It was said during the week Donegal would need goals to beat us and goals they got. Plenty been saying Derry getting beat wouldn't be the worst thing but all the doom mongers are out in force writing the rest of our season off. Time will tell.

We were too slow and well off our pace. Very heavy legged. I don't think that was down to any Jimmy master plan but Donegal made hay with it and fair play. A good break and reset will do no harm.

Derry going with the same team as the league final.

No real surprise didn't think they'd risk McKinless from the start and he's a great impact sub.

No Murphy on the bench??

Can changes be made to the 26? Harte normally names his subs in alphabetical order. Doherty is out of place & Murphy would fit in at 25 alphabetically.

Yeah I think you name 4 lads in reserve who don't appear on programme but can come in last minute.

Is that right? I thought that no changes could be made to the 26? The whole team naming gaa culture is a nonsense with these multiple changes come throw-in, but I thought that at least it had been agreed no changes could be made outside the 26 named.

4 standbys who can be brought in to replace any of the 26 named. But can only have 26 on the day.

See Gough ref for Saturday, was he not off the pace abit on the original ref fitness test or was that Coldrick.? Didn't think he kept up well in the Roscommon game in the league, and that wasn't a high paced game.

Yup, he was one of inter country refs from a panel of 42 who failed fitness tests earlier in the year.

He completely revolutionised tactics in gaelic football and had the tactical wherewithal and strength of personality to set a team up ultra defensively by playing zonal at the back. He didn't care one bit what anybody thought of him and probably still doesn't as it brought him an AI title that they would not have won if playing conventionally. The criticism only bolstered him and created a siege mentality that he seems to need. It was complete outside the box thinking at the time and very gutsy but don't pretend that it didn't set gaelic football back as a spectacle and which has never really recovered since then.

I don't think it was his aim to be ultra defensive because of some form of idealism, it was just that did whatever he thought was required to give them the best possible chance at winning. 

Managers do whatever they have to do to win.

Look at Ancelotti last night; they sat back in the lowest of low blocks played on the break and looked to frustrate City and took their chances on a penalty shootout.

Should we Chastise Ancellotti in the same fashion?

Ah FFS, don't mention penalties again. Tones head will explode.

He's in there to do a job, and the job isn't to f**k off Unionists, the BBC have their radio friendly soundbites, PUL types can react how they like, tomorrow it'll be ancient history as the business of managing the biggest sporting organisation in the country continues, and the business of winning unification proceeds elsewhere

What is evident in that interview is the good old BBC at play - it was all from the perspective of Unionists and how the GAA hurts their feelings. It is what Chris Donnelly and Cahair O'Kane have been writing about lately - the default starting position is from a unionist viewpoint. That needs to be challenged at all levels in the BBC.

On the interview itself, I thought Burns did well. He answered everything coolly and rationally. You may or may not agree with what he said and there are a few things I wouldn't agree with myself. Nothing is perfect and if you compare Burns with that wet wipe McCarthy it is day and night.

how many counties would a train station in clones benefit?

Armagh, hoor's only have trains to Belfast and the rest of the place connecting via Dublin the critters

Was waiting on the shout going up before last weekend about needing extra trains to Enniskillen 🤪

Armagh ones love an auld train.

Brewster park would be 12 mins walk from the railway station.

😂😂

how many counties would a train station in clones benefit?

Armagh, hoor's only have trains to Belfast and the rest of the place connecting via Dublin the critters

Was waiting on the shout going up before last weekend about needing extra trains to Enniskillen 🤪

Armagh ones love an auld train.

Armagh haven't actually been great with the ball. Only 4 points with that level of dominance isn't powerful.

Their press and quick break from turnovers have been the main reason for the goals but they're definitely struggling a bit with the packed defence!

Murphy and Mugsy not agreeing with you.

Some fundamental handling errors from Fermanagh. Gifted those goals.

Armagh for Sam. Must be favourites now 😛