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Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« Reply #360 on: August 06, 2017, 06:51:37 PM »
How could you call this a poor game. What sports channel do you watch? Epic end to end physical stuff with some fantastic scores. In fact the longer the ball stayed in play the more compelling it got so scores didnt really matter. Yes there were mistakes but come on....

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« Reply #361 on: August 06, 2017, 07:03:55 PM »
First half was tight but a bit sloppy. In fairness it was pretty slippy conditions out there. The second half though was pure adrenaline. If you could somehow bottle that excitement you'd be a very wealthy man. The pulse is only coming down now.

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« Reply #362 on: August 06, 2017, 07:15:10 PM »
Well done Galway.  I so hope that Joe Canning wins his All Ireland.

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« Reply #363 on: August 06, 2017, 08:14:51 PM »
Fair play to Tipp. They were unrecognisable from June. They put in a huge effort and with a bit of luck could have won. They really gave it everything.
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« Reply #364 on: August 06, 2017, 11:22:30 PM »
Second half was savage stuff

Was the last free Galway # 5 got (that Canning dropped short) awful soft?

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« Reply #366 on: August 07, 2017, 08:02:00 AM »
Second half was savage stuff

Was the last free Galway # 5 got (that Canning dropped short) awful soft?

Yes. I thought so too considering Barry Kelly was letting a lot go. I was only saying Joe Canning was having a quiet game by his standards when he came to life in last 15 minutes to win it. A Tipp defender possibly Cahill or Kennedy had a rush of blood to head letting fly with a ground strike with 7 minutes to go which went straight to Canning out by sideline who scored a great point. Very exciting game and Tipp will be so disappointed not to have got a draw at least.

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« Reply #367 on: August 07, 2017, 09:28:43 AM »
Tipp came out all guns blazing and it was the Galway fullback line that looked to be under pressure and not the one at the other end of the field. Awful mess from Tuohy for the goal but he'd a great game when he settled down later on. The Tipp forwards were very sharp and looking like they meant business in all aspects of their play with nothing easy let out and the Galway backs were under huge pressure, fair means or foul with Kelly picking them up for it. When Seamus Callanan gets carded you know they're fired up. Galway were poor and very sloppy, missed picks, fumbles and so forth, but credit has to go to Tipp, they hounded them down in Kilkenny like fashion and never let them get their heads up.
At the other end it did look as if Tipp were playing someone deep in front of James Barry, but Conor Whelan was still getting the scores, Joe couldn't get on a ball from play and was a bit hit and miss on the frees and a bit of greed from Conor Cooney denying a goal opportunity for Whelan as well. Joe Cooney was also quiet and well subdued by the Tipp backs.
It was only when McInerney and Coen got going in the second half that you could see Galway start to get the upper hand, but the scoreboard was never greater than a few points either way, but you could sense Galway growing into the game more, still sloppy and poor decisions being made allowing the lethal Tipp forwards to keep things close.
Galway will be happy, beating Tipp and not being overly great. I'd say you could count the Galway lads who could say they played well with the fingers on one hand and there's much room for improvement, particularly in the forwards, but either Waterford or Cork will provide a different challenge the next day out.
Tipp are Tipp won't be happy with being beaten but they are not to be written off just yet.

As for the referee, I think hurling and the tackle in particular is going down the same route as football as it's now a blur of arms, hands, hurls and whatever else across the players body and hence overcarrying and so forth, almost impossible to know what's acceptable now and in that regard I thought Kelly did well. Both teams could point to instances were they were denied frees and other times when they get soft ones. Nothing glaringly obvious for Kelly to be criticised for IMO.

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« Reply #368 on: August 07, 2017, 10:46:53 AM »
Not a classic by any means but a great win nonetheless!  Canning showed all his class in those last 15 mins - he dragged us to the final - his composure was a joy to witness as CP was an absolute cauldron in those closing stages.  Special mention to Gearoid Mc, was an absolute rock throughout and especially in the second half.  Was probably surprised to have Noel McGraths company early on but took it in his stride - probably the most improved Galway player over the last 2 years.  Plenty to work on for the final but it's a mature panel at this point and they will be well aware that an improved display will be required next month - great to be hurling in Sept all the same!!

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« Reply #369 on: August 07, 2017, 11:31:53 AM »
Tipp came out all guns blazing and it was the Galway fullback line that looked to be under pressure and not the one at the other end of the field. Awful mess from Tuohy for the goal but he'd a great game when he settled down later on. The Tipp forwards were very sharp and looking like they meant business in all aspects of their play with nothing easy let out and the Galway backs were under huge pressure, fair means or foul with Kelly picking them up for it. When Seamus Callanan gets carded you know they're fired up. Galway were poor and very sloppy, missed picks, fumbles and so forth, but credit has to go to Tipp, they hounded them down in Kilkenny like fashion and never let them get their heads up.
At the other end it did look as if Tipp were playing someone deep in front of James Barry, but Conor Whelan was still getting the scores, Joe couldn't get on a ball from play and was a bit hit and miss on the frees and a bit of greed from Conor Cooney denying a goal opportunity for Whelan as well. Joe Cooney was also quiet and well subdued by the Tipp backs.
It was only when McInerney and Coen got going in the second half that you could see Galway start to get the upper hand, but the scoreboard was never greater than a few points either way, but you could sense Galway growing into the game more, still sloppy and poor decisions being made allowing the lethal Tipp forwards to keep things close.
Galway will be happy, beating Tipp and not being overly great. I'd say you could count the Galway lads who could say they played well with the fingers on one hand and there's much room for improvement, particularly in the forwards, but either Waterford or Cork will provide a different challenge the next day out.
Tipp are Tipp won't be happy with being beaten but they are not to be written off just yet.

As for the referee, I think hurling and the tackle in particular is going down the same route as football as it's now a blur of arms, hands, hurls and whatever else across the players body and hence overcarrying and so forth, almost impossible to know what's acceptable now and in that regard I thought Kelly did well. Both teams could point to instances were they were denied frees and other times when they get soft ones. Nothing glaringly obvious for Kelly to be criticised for IMO.
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Galway got 17 frees to tipps 8, considering the possession stats   so you reckon Tipp where twice as dirty
The free awarded at the death was very soft but fair play to canning for scoring so far out
Tipp missed plenty of chances to close to deal but didn't fluff any more than Galway
Draw would have been fair

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« Reply #370 on: August 07, 2017, 11:35:47 AM »
Tipp were a bit unsettled with the Barrett story. They are a class outfit but as the boys on TSG were saying they could have 3 or 4 all Irelands.
Galway need to score a few goals the next day.
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« Reply #371 on: August 07, 2017, 12:03:26 PM »
Tipp came out all guns blazing and it was the Galway fullback line that looked to be under pressure and not the one at the other end of the field. Awful mess from Tuohy for the goal but he'd a great game when he settled down later on. The Tipp forwards were very sharp and looking like they meant business in all aspects of their play with nothing easy let out and the Galway backs were under huge pressure, fair means or foul with Kelly picking them up for it. When Seamus Callanan gets carded you know they're fired up. Galway were poor and very sloppy, missed picks, fumbles and so forth, but credit has to go to Tipp, they hounded them down in Kilkenny like fashion and never let them get their heads up.
At the other end it did look as if Tipp were playing someone deep in front of James Barry, but Conor Whelan was still getting the scores, Joe couldn't get on a ball from play and was a bit hit and miss on the frees and a bit of greed from Conor Cooney denying a goal opportunity for Whelan as well. Joe Cooney was also quiet and well subdued by the Tipp backs.
It was only when McInerney and Coen got going in the second half that you could see Galway start to get the upper hand, but the scoreboard was never greater than a few points either way, but you could sense Galway growing into the game more, still sloppy and poor decisions being made allowing the lethal Tipp forwards to keep things close.
Galway will be happy, beating Tipp and not being overly great. I'd say you could count the Galway lads who could say they played well with the fingers on one hand and there's much room for improvement, particularly in the forwards, but either Waterford or Cork will provide a different challenge the next day out.
Tipp are Tipp won't be happy with being beaten but they are not to be written off just yet.

As for the referee, I think hurling and the tackle in particular is going down the same route as football as it's now a blur of arms, hands, hurls and whatever else across the players body and hence overcarrying and so forth, almost impossible to know what's acceptable now and in that regard I thought Kelly did well. Both teams could point to instances were they were denied frees and other times when they get soft ones. Nothing glaringly obvious for Kelly to be criticised for IMO.
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Galway got 17 frees to tipps 8, considering the possession stats   so you reckon Tipp where twice as dirty
The free awarded at the death was very soft but fair play to canning for scoring so far out
Tipp missed plenty of chances to close to deal but didn't fluff any more than Galway
Draw would have been fair

Depends where and why the frees were awarded. It's always been easier to get frees when not in the scoring zones and IMO the Tipp attack were sailing into tackles on the wild side of things and rightly getting caught out. The Galway attackers barring Joe who must have given up almost half that count were more disciplined/less inclined to tackle.
I also said that the way things are going it's getting harder for referee's to control the contact areas due to the succession of "little" fouls that are let go. Kilkenny were the masters of it and knew how to work most referees in this regard.

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« Reply #372 on: August 07, 2017, 01:34:23 PM »
The Tipp forwards are the best in the business
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« Reply #373 on: August 07, 2017, 02:12:49 PM »
Kelly was grand, didnt really notice a wild amount of things he got wrong, couple of years ago he tighten things up and blew for a lot and this game here he didnt and let the game go with a few challenges that maybe were borderline, thats the problem though with the advantage rule in hurling..

Was he wearing an earpiece ? Just never seen it and wondered
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« Reply #374 on: August 07, 2017, 02:42:19 PM »
Looked to be a few occasions where BK blew for fouls but looked to be blindsided. Assumed the lineman was calling them
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