Gaelic Voices for Change - Dec 16th sleep out

Started by magpie seanie, December 05, 2017, 03:46:20 PM

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AZOffaly

Quote from: magpie seanie on December 19, 2017, 09:00:11 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 19, 2017, 08:55:31 AM
No one wants to see anyone homeless,but the reasons the vast majority have homes is because they have worked damned hard to get houses and stay in them.

In modern Ireland North and South there is an array of benefits and social services available,so I find it hard to believe that anyone is sleeping rough except by choice.

Well you're just plain wrong.

You also use this term 'sleeping rough'. Homelessness is not just about people in doorways in Dublin, many of whom have problems. But there are entire families, thousands of them, living in hotel rooms, with no quality of life. Children going to a buffet breakfast in City North hotel in school uniforms. Mams trying to get them to school. No facilities to cook so you eat whatever you are allowed in the hotel. No places to play, to interact with other kids. Homework in a hotel room with brothers and sisters around you. Nothing to do except sit in the room and watch hotel TV.

That is no quality of life, and surely we can do better than that. Obviously hotels are better than the street, but that's no way to bring up a family. Your heart would break seeing them.

laoislad

I've a couple of contracts with a few hotel groups.
Part of the contract is for me to go into these hotels and do safety audits on their electrical systems.
There are a number of these hotels that part of them are being used to house some of these families.
I actually have to go into these families bedrooms and do a safety audit on the electrical wiring/outlets and issue a cert.
What I have seen is pretty grim. Small hotel rooms that may have 2 or 3 kids living there. The rooms are so cramped Ive seen toasters and microwaves on the toilet floor as there is literally no where else to put them.
Stackes of clothes everywhere. Kids nowhere to play bar run up and down the corridors.
You get talking to some of these people as you go about your work and the vast majority you can't help but feel sorry for. Plenty of them actually have jobs and keep their rooms immaculate.
I will say there would be a minority who are playing the system. One woman told me she was offered a 3 bed house but because she has 3 children she wanted a 4 bedroom house as she wanted a bedroom for each kid and herself so she refused it. That kind of annoyed me to hear that.
In general though these families are just like yours or mine but just find themselves in a really unfortuante situation.
I tell you one thing it makes you appreciate coming home and putting a key in your own front door.
When you think you're fucked you're only about 40% fucked.


T Fearon


Orchard park

Quote from: T Fearon on December 19, 2017, 11:56:49 AM
They still have a roof over their head.

and they should kiss your grubby arse for that should they...

you dont even understand the definition of homelessness........

clear winner of gaaboard gobshite of the year award

Rossfan

He'll get my vote anyway😁
Excellent posts from Offaly and Laois above.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

magpie seanie

He's undefeated in that category despite some stiff competition at times.

T Fearon

People accommodated in hotels  (for which families on breaks or holidays) while awaiting permanent re housing are not homeless.

seafoid

Quote from: T Fearon on December 19, 2017, 04:08:23 PM
People accommodated in hotels  (for which families on breaks or holidays) while awaiting permanent re housing are not homeless.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

Orchard park

Quote from: T Fearon on December 19, 2017, 04:08:23 PM
People accommodated in hotels  (for which families on breaks or holidays) while awaiting permanent re housing are not homeless.

would you swap places and live in one ensuite room for say 3 years if its so idyllic

T Fearon


Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM


T Fearon

You want to see what privately let student accommodation was like in the late 70s.

foxcommander

Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie