The Many Faces of US Politics...

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whitey

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Quote from: J70 on October 20, 2022, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 20, 2022, 01:41:28 PM
So in the case I've highlighted you're okay with a judge letting a suspected drug dealer (with a outstanding ICE detainer) slip out the back door of the court house while the Immigration Officer was removed from the courtroom?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-judge/massachusetts-judge-faces-federal-charges-for-blocking-immigration-arrest-idUSKCN1S1260

Fair enough

Your link said "drug possession", not dealing. It doesn't say what drugs or how much. Was he just smoking a joint? Feel free to provide that information.

That said, without knowing anything about his personal circumstances, I think he probably should have been handed over on the grounds that he had been deported twice before.

He was wanted on "drug charges" drunk driving and already twice deported.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2019/04/25/joseph-macgregor-obstruction-conspiracy-charges-ice

The defendant isn't named in the indictment, but has been previously identified as Jose Medina-Perez, 38, from the Dominican Republic. In April 2018, he was facing drug charges and a fugitive warrant out of Pennsylvania for drunken driving. Immigration officials say the defendant's real name is Oscar Manuel Peguero. According to Lelling's office, Peguero has been deported from the U.S. twice — in 2003 and 2007 — and a federal order had been issued prohibiting him from reentry until 2027

(Edit-I remember reading at the time it was drug dealing, but that may have been possession. Either way, the drunk driving and 2 prior deportations should have been enough for him to be handed over)

Gmac

Is there not enough home grown/resident lunatics, criminals, drug addicts in the USA  ?
Why should anyone tolerate any illegal behavior from someone who's first act entering the country was to break the law ?

J70

Quote from: Gmac on October 20, 2022, 05:16:16 PM
Is there not enough home grown/resident lunatics, criminals, drug addicts in the USA  ?
Why should anyone tolerate any illegal behavior from someone who's first act entering the country was to break the law ?

I don't have much of an argument with that, except I wouldn't deport someone just because they got caught smoking a joint or going 12 mph over the speed limit.

Theft, DWI, assault, drug dealing, murder etc. - do your time and get the f**k out.

Gmac

Quote from: omochain on October 20, 2022, 02:49:48 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


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What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

Christ, we've been over this multiple times in the past.

Yes, after you prosecute them, (if applicable) imprison them, then kick them the f**k out!

How can they be prosecuted if local law enforcement are prohibited from handing them over to ICE and judges set them free on bail?


https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mass-judge-immigrant-escape-charges-dropped/2841861/?amp=1

"In her previous role as district attorney for Suffolk County, Rollins had been part of a lawsuit seeking to block federal authorities from making arrests at courthouses of people suspected of being in the country illegally."
You were anecdotally funny one time. You are now joined at the hip with GMAC and his cohorts in your denial of reality.
living in California or Florida these days ?

omochain

In California. On the central coast, surrounded by cohorts of liberals and too much Pinot noir🙏

Gmac

John fetterman making joe Biden look like Einstein wtf is this man doing running in a senate race .


Wildweasel74

Serious incident with Pelosi husband by the look of it, media bullshit, trump lies, and conspiracy nutjon theories, over the election has lead to this. The dummies still don't realise that words can have consequences.

whitey

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2022, 01:37:00 AM
Serious incident with Pelosi husband by the look of it, media bullshit, trump lies, and conspiracy nutjon theories, over the election has lead to this. The dummies still don't realise that words can have consequences.

Still a lot of info to come out on this......but it sounds like he's just seriously deranged.

According to one report he's illegal/undocumented........and has had numerous run ins with the law........but given that San Francisco/California is a sanctuary city/state.......he was never handed over to ICE  for deportation.  If this is true, its a serious black eye for the Democrats

lenny

Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2022, 01:52:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2022, 01:37:00 AM
Serious incident with Pelosi husband by the look of it, media bullshit, trump lies, and conspiracy nutjon theories, over the election has lead to this. The dummies still don't realise that words can have consequences.

Still a lot of info to come out on this......but it sounds like he's just seriously deranged.

According to one report he's illegal/undocumented........and has had numerous run ins with the law........but given that San Francisco/California is a sanctuary city/state.......he was never handed over to ICE  for deportation.  If this is true, its a serious black eye for the Democrats

Trump has many supporters who are seriously deranged and the rhetoric of trump means that actions like this and the attempted coup on January 6 will continue to happen while trump is politically active.

burdizzo

Quote from: lenny on October 29, 2022, 07:10:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2022, 01:52:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2022, 01:37:00 AM
Serious incident with Pelosi husband by the look of it, media bullshit, trump lies, and conspiracy nutjon theories, over the election has lead to this. The dummies still don't realise that words can have consequences.

Still a lot of info to come out on this......but it sounds like he's just seriously deranged.

According to one report he's illegal/undocumented........and has had numerous run ins with the law........but given that San Francisco/California is a sanctuary city/state.......he was never handed over to ICE  for deportation.  If this is true, its a serious black eye for the Democrats

Trump has many supporters who are seriously deranged and the rhetoric of trump means that actions like this and the attempted coup on January 6 will continue to happen while trump is politically active.

"Attempted coup"!! Ha ha!

J70

Quote from: burdizzo on October 29, 2022, 09:42:36 AM
Quote from: lenny on October 29, 2022, 07:10:52 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2022, 01:52:50 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 29, 2022, 01:37:00 AM
Serious incident with Pelosi husband by the look of it, media bullshit, trump lies, and conspiracy nutjon theories, over the election has lead to this. The dummies still don't realise that words can have consequences.

Still a lot of info to come out on this......but it sounds like he's just seriously deranged.

According to one report he's illegal/undocumented........and has had numerous run ins with the law........but given that San Francisco/California is a sanctuary city/state.......he was never handed over to ICE  for deportation.  If this is true, its a serious black eye for the Democrats

Trump has many supporters who are seriously deranged and the rhetoric of trump means that actions like this and the attempted coup on January 6 will continue to happen while trump is politically active.

"Attempted coup"!! Ha ha!

It didn't succeed, so it was, thankfully, only an attempt.

This time.

Next time out they may very well succeed with all of the lulas they're putting in place to "legally" thwart the decisions of the voters.

J70

Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2022, 11:18:02 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/us/politics/federal-judge-allows-activists-to-stake-out-ballot-boxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


This is all totally normal ... 😳

Someone is going to end up getting killed when an interaction with one of these thugs gets out of hand.

Trump has done such damage to this country, all in service of his massive, but fragile, ego.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on October 29, 2022, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2022, 11:18:02 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/us/politics/federal-judge-allows-activists-to-stake-out-ballot-boxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


This is all totally normal ... 😳

Someone is going to end up getting killed when an interaction with one of these thugs gets out of hand.

Trump has done such damage to this country, all in service of his massive, but fragile, ego.

Yes.....a would be assassin showed up at the door of a conservative Supreme Court Justice having driven 3000 miles across the country stoked by rage and lies ginned up by the left.

Even more outrageous is the fact 27 members of the Democratic Party voted against a bill offering SJC justices round the clock protection including AOC who was front and center in leading the outrage about the Pelosi attack

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3523572-these-are-the-27-house-democrats-who-opposed-a-bill-expanding-security-for-supreme-court-families/amp/

J70

Quote from: whitey on October 29, 2022, 10:25:04 AM
Quote from: J70 on October 29, 2022, 10:03:48 AM
Quote from: screenexile on October 28, 2022, 11:18:02 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/28/us/politics/federal-judge-allows-activists-to-stake-out-ballot-boxes.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur


This is all totally normal ... 😳

Someone is going to end up getting killed when an interaction with one of these thugs gets out of hand.

Trump has done such damage to this country, all in service of his massive, but fragile, ego.

Yes.....a would be assassin showed up at the door of a conservative Supreme Court Justice having driven 3000 miles across the country stoked by rage and lies ginned up by the left.

Even more outrageous is the fact 27 members of the Democratic Party voted against a bill offering SJC justices round the clock protection including AOC who was front and center in leading the outrage about the Pelosi attack

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/3523572-these-are-the-27-house-democrats-who-opposed-a-bill-expanding-security-for-supreme-court-families/amp/

Not defending extremist reaction on either side, but the fact is that one case was about Roe V Wade being struck down, a real actual event. Where's the truth in Trump and the GOP's "heads I win, tails you cheated" lies and action on elections?