The Many Faces of US Politics...

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J70

Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


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What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.

Gmac

Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!
the leaked audio of the la council meeting exposes what most of these clowns are really like , they care about themselves and their tribe and power  ,  nothing else . Democrats think they have a coalition of white liberals, lgbtq , African Americans, Latinos and illegal immigrants and the bottom the thing is they all hate each other . Bizarre

whitey

Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


.

What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

J70

Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


.

What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

Christ, we've been over this multiple times in the past.

Yes, after you prosecute them, (if applicable) imprison them, then kick them the f**k out!

J70

Quote from: Gmac on October 19, 2022, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!
the leaked audio of the la council meeting exposes what most of these clowns are really like , they care about themselves and their tribe and power  ,  nothing else . Democrats think they have a coalition of white liberals, lgbtq , African Americans, Latinos and illegal immigrants and the bottom the thing is they all hate each other . Bizarre

I don't know if you really want to be tarring or labelling everyone based on the attitudes or actions of a few. Especially when you're coming from the right.

whitey

Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


.

What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

Christ, we've been over this multiple times in the past.

Yes, after you prosecute them, (if applicable) imprison them, then kick them the f**k out!

How can they be prosecuted if local law enforcement are prohibited from handing them over to ICE and judges set them free on bail?


https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mass-judge-immigrant-escape-charges-dropped/2841861/?amp=1

"In her previous role as district attorney for Suffolk County, Rollins had been part of a lawsuit seeking to block federal authorities from making arrests at courthouses of people suspected of being in the country illegally."

Eamonnca1

Quote from: burdizzo on October 18, 2022, 10:14:16 PM
So what? And the likes of you only cry about 'black lives matter', but don't care a bit about white lives. See? Sad.

What?

Eamonnca1

"Compared to undocumented immigrants, U.S. citizens were twice as likely to be arrested for violent felonies in Texas from 2012 to 2018, two-and-a-half times more likely to be arrested for felony drug crimes, and over four times more likely to be arrested for felony property crimes, according to a study published by University of Wisconsin–Madison researchers today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

Source: Undocumented immigrants far less likely to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens - University of Wisconsin-Madison

whitey

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 19, 2022, 09:41:27 PM
"Compared to undocumented immigrants, U.S. citizens were twice as likely to be arrested for violent felonies in Texas from 2012 to 2018, two-and-a-half times more likely to be arrested for felony drug crimes, and over four times more likely to be arrested for felony property crimes, according to a study published by University of Wisconsin–Madison researchers today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences."

Source: Undocumented immigrants far less likely to commit crimes in U.S. than citizens - University of Wisconsin-Madison

Yes-but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China

We can't deport citizens but we can and should deport criminal illegals.

Am I correct in assuming your against deporting criminal illegals?

(Drugs, violent crime, drunk driving-I'm not talking about jaywalkers)

Gmac

Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 10:45:21 AM
Quote from: Gmac on October 19, 2022, 02:35:53 AM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 02:05:16 AM
Quote from: Gmac on October 18, 2022, 11:49:07 PM
George Floyd's family suing Kanye west  for 250m
He gave 2m donation to floyds kids 2 years ago.
Don't think Kanye is all there to be honest but he's learning the hard way what opinions are ok and what are not . Dangerous slope we are on in this country

What's the "opinion" in this case that's "not ok"?

Is it ok to run your mouth off in public talking shite about the cause of someone's death?

Alex Jones tried to profit off it and got a very costly and hopefully ruinous kick in the balls last week for it.
maybe he read the toxicology report ?

So Kanye is a pathologist now?

How about loudmouth entitled gobshites who don't know what they're talking about leave the science and medicine to the people who do and stop hurting families for their own political and monetary gain?

And did he not also express the "opinion" that Chauvin didn't sit on Floyd's neck with his knee?

Someone should tell Chauvin's lawyers. They might get him off that 20 year sentence yet!
george had Covid and was not vaccinated either something deserving of death if you go back through the Covid thread , exclusively an opinion spouted by posters of the liberal persuasion.
A blight on society.

Jell 0 Biafra

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/arizona-gop-candidate-arrested-allegedly-masturbating-truck_n_635007e2e4b03e8038da457f

Arizona GOP candidate who said he wanted "our children protected [from] the progressive left" was arrested for masturbating outside of a preschool

"I'm sorry. I fucked up. I'm really stressed."

omochain

Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


.

What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

Christ, we've been over this multiple times in the past.

Yes, after you prosecute them, (if applicable) imprison them, then kick them the f**k out!

How can they be prosecuted if local law enforcement are prohibited from handing them over to ICE and judges set them free on bail?


https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mass-judge-immigrant-escape-charges-dropped/2841861/?amp=1

"In her previous role as district attorney for Suffolk County, Rollins had been part of a lawsuit seeking to block federal authorities from making arrests at courthouses of people suspected of being in the country illegally."
You were anecdotally funny one time. You are now joined at the hip with GMAC and his cohorts in your denial of reality.

J70

Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 07:39:34 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 06:24:39 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 19, 2022, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: J70 on October 19, 2022, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on October 19, 2022, 02:06:21 PM
Ha ha!! The "right wing resentment train"! The whole left ideology is based around resentment!!

I can't speak to Ireland or wherever you are, but the US right wing thrives on fear and resentment and grievance. Illegal immigrants, black "thugs", trans women, Democratic paedophiles, Mexican rapists, environazis, feminists, MS-13, they're all coming for you, and the great white replacement is underway to change US society. The election was stolen from Trump and Biden is not our legitimate president is an axiom in the current GOP (and part of their official platform in places); any election a MAGAt wins is fair, any they lose was stolen.

And there's nothing funny about it.


.

What a pile of complete nonsense

So if you want immigration laws enforced and dangerous criminals deported you "fear and resent" illegal immigrants

Might want to tell this lady's family that one

https://www.foxla.com/news/las-vegas-strip-stabbing-what-we-know-about-the-suspect-reportedly-with-california-criminal-history.amp

It's not complete nonsense and you know full well that the rabble rousing over immigration extends well beyond enforcing laws and deporting criminals. You're on record here a number of times rejecting the more extreme elements of GOP rhetoric and policy on it.

I do note you didn't find fault with the rest.


Do you think Illegals who commit violent crimes, drive drunk and deal drugs should be handed over to ICE by local law enforcement?

Christ, we've been over this multiple times in the past.

Yes, after you prosecute them, (if applicable) imprison them, then kick them the f**k out!

How can they be prosecuted if local law enforcement are prohibited from handing them over to ICE and judges set them free on bail?


https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/mass-judge-immigrant-escape-charges-dropped/2841861/?amp=1

"In her previous role as district attorney for Suffolk County, Rollins had been part of a lawsuit seeking to block federal authorities from making arrests at courthouses of people suspected of being in the country illegally."

Having sensible sanctuary policies in place is the answer.

Make it safe for illegals to engage and cooperate with the authorities without fear of being arrested and deported for offering a statement or making a victim complaint.

Deport the criminal ones after they serve their sentences.

I don't see why this has to be such a divisive issue. Both extremes are as bad and unrealistic as the other.

whitey

So in the case I've highlighted you're okay with a judge letting a suspected drug dealer (with a outstanding ICE detainer) slip out the back door of the court house while the Immigration Officer was removed from the courtroom?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-judge/massachusetts-judge-faces-federal-charges-for-blocking-immigration-arrest-idUSKCN1S1260

Fair enough

J70

Quote from: whitey on October 20, 2022, 01:41:28 PM
So in the case I've highlighted you're okay with a judge letting a suspected drug dealer (with a outstanding ICE detainer) slip out the back door of the court house while the Immigration Officer was removed from the courtroom?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-judge/massachusetts-judge-faces-federal-charges-for-blocking-immigration-arrest-idUSKCN1S1260

Fair enough

Your link said "drug possession", not dealing. It doesn't say what drugs or how much. Was he just smoking a joint? Feel free to provide that information.

That said, without knowing anything about his personal circumstances, I think he probably should have been handed over on the grounds that he had been deported twice before.