Assaults at GAA games

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Cavan19

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 14, 2022, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I hear the soccerball "supporters" were at it in Dublin today!
The difference is

A. The cops and stewards stepped in.

B. There will be serious repercussions
Seems some of them were even fighting among themselves....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fans-facing-bans-as-trouble-erupts-in-the-stands-and-outside-aviva-stadium-at-fai-cup-final-42141448.html

Headlines yesterday. Leinster Council awaiting referees report.

Headline today. Fans already banned.

Nobody is arguing that loons go to sport. The isduw is one sport deals with it. One doesn't.
So your taking 'some fans may face bans' as 'fans already banned'
Yep, the guards and stewards took the time to get the name of all the scum that were thrown out of the aviva, and the scum were polite enough to comply with names and addresses. 😝

But they were at least thrown out...

There was also trouble outside the stadium beforehand too

Public Order Unit were on standby,which you would never see at any GAA game

The argument the soccer heads are making, and it has validity, is both the GAA and soccer have a problem. It may manifest slightly differently but the problems exist.

Soccer takes it far more seriously in terms of reaction to and attempting to stop their problems. The GAA don't. The soccer lads problem is that the media and politicians jump all over their incidents and demand action, wheras the GAA just carry on. The GAA factuon that dismissed violence as handbags and part of the culture simply doesn't exist in soccer.

Admittedly what happened in Parnell Park has done that, but it was the most extreme crowd trouble in a while in any code due to the hurl being used and the complete lack of any response from stewards and guards.

Second year in a row that the FAI Cup finals has had scenes like these near the Aviva?
If they are taking it seriously, what action did the FAI take this year to try and stop a repeat?

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648

That final is just turning into a national gurrier day out.

quit yo jibbajabba

Impressive crowd. 30k plus? The NI cup final wouldnt get near that.
Unfortunate scenes. Surely some better way to segregate seeming as this now seems to be annual as you say. Was it the same pub/street last year too?

full moon

Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 03:38:11 PM
Impressive crowd. 30k plus? The NI cup final wouldnt get near that.
Unfortunate scenes. Surely some better way to segregate seeming as this now seems to be annual as you say. Was it the same pub/street last year too?
Yeah same pub Irishtown inn, Guards probably shouldn't have let them march down in front of it.

I'd lean on blaming the Shels "fans" there, a lot of the Dublin clubs have a hooligan element.

clonadmad

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I hear the soccerball "supporters" were at it in Dublin today!
The difference is

A. The cops and stewards stepped in.

B. There will be serious repercussions
Seems some of them were even fighting among themselves....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fans-facing-bans-as-trouble-erupts-in-the-stands-and-outside-aviva-stadium-at-fai-cup-final-42141448.html

Headlines yesterday. Leinster Council awaiting referees report.

Headline today. Fans already banned.

Nobody is arguing that loons go to sport. The isduw is one sport deals with it. One doesn't.
So your taking 'some fans may face bans' as 'fans already banned'
Yep, the guards and stewards took the time to get the name of all the scum that were thrown out of the aviva, and the scum were polite enough to comply with names and addresses. 😝

But they were at least thrown out...

There was also trouble outside the stadium beforehand too

Public Order Unit were on standby,which you would never see at any GAA game

The argument the soccer heads are making, and it has validity, is both the GAA and soccer have a problem. It may manifest slightly differently but the problems exist.

Soccer takes it far more seriously in terms of reaction to and attempting to stop their problems. The GAA don't. The soccer lads problem is that the media and politicians jump all over their incidents and demand action, wheras the GAA just carry on. The GAA factuon that dismissed violence as handbags and part of the culture simply doesn't exist in soccer.

Admittedly what happened in Parnell Park has done that, but it was the most extreme crowd trouble in a while in any code due to the hurl being used and the complete lack of any response from stewards and guards.

This is the second year in a row in the vicinity of Irishtown House that there's been fans fighting each other and the public order unit having to get involved.

I could only imagine the outcry if this similar happened at an intercounty game


What is it with soccer that they seem to think a culture like this is acceptable?,Why do Irish fans want to ape their British Counterparts in this regards?

full moon

I don't know why LOI fans consistently attack GAA when they have their own much worse violence issues.

Plus lots of people support LOI and GAA.

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 03:38:11 PM
Impressive crowd. 30k plus? The NI cup final wouldnt get near that.
Unfortunate scenes. Surely some better way to segregate seeming as this now seems to be annual as you say. Was it the same pub/street last year too?
Yeah same pub Irishtown inn, Guards probably shouldn't have let them march down in front of it.

I'd lean on blaming the Shels "fans" there, a lot of the Dublin clubs have a hooligan element.

Nah both fans were as bad as each other-Derry had a pile of hanger oners there yesterday, usually get 5k max at The Brandy. 20k went yesterday

full moon

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2022, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 03:38:11 PM
Impressive crowd. 30k plus? The NI cup final wouldnt get near that.
Unfortunate scenes. Surely some better way to segregate seeming as this now seems to be annual as you say. Was it the same pub/street last year too?
Yeah same pub Irishtown inn, Guards probably shouldn't have let them march down in front of it.

I'd lean on blaming the Shels "fans" there, a lot of the Dublin clubs have a hooligan element.

Nah both fans were as bad as each other-Derry had a pile of hanger oners there yesterday, usually get 5k max at The Brandy. 20k went yesterday
Fair enough, I'm just going off the video outside the pub seemed like Shelbourne started it. 20k very impressive turnout by Derry even if it's a one off.


Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on November 14, 2022, 03:45:40 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:41:35 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on November 14, 2022, 03:38:11 PM
Impressive crowd. 30k plus? The NI cup final wouldnt get near that.
Unfortunate scenes. Surely some better way to segregate seeming as this now seems to be annual as you say. Was it the same pub/street last year too?
Yeah same pub Irishtown inn, Guards probably shouldn't have let them march down in front of it.

I'd lean on blaming the Shels "fans" there, a lot of the Dublin clubs have a hooligan element.

Nah both fans were as bad as each other-Derry had a pile of hanger oners there yesterday, usually get 5k max at The Brandy. 20k went yesterday
Fair enough, I'm just going off the video outside the pub seemed like Shelbourne started it. 20k very impressive turnout by Derry even if it's a one off.

Wouldnt be the first time we took that number down, but yes its good. The derry fans were the ones launching the bottles down from the pub, we know how to throw to be fair

Bord na Mona man

Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 03:42:45 PM
This is the second year in a row in the vicinity of Irishtown House that there's been fans fighting each other and the public order unit having to get involved.

I could only imagine the outcry if this similar happened at an intercounty game

What is it with soccer that they seem to think a culture like this is acceptable?,Why do Irish fans want to ape their British Counterparts in this regards?

It's not just English hooligan culture that Irish soccer fans copy. For example when Luis Figo had a pig's head thrown onto the pitch at him at the Nou Camp 20 years ago, Shamrock Rovers fans copied that and did the same to a couple of their players who had joined Bohs.

Intellect and Imagination in short supply.

Wildweasel74

#249
That maniac with a hurl in the stand, swinging it like a, wikd thing, WTF, Assault with a weapon, unreal,

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:44:01 PM
I don't know why LOI fans consistently attack GAA when they have their own much worse violence issues.

Plus lots of people support LOI and GAA.

Is it worse though?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 14, 2022, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I hear the soccerball "supporters" were at it in Dublin today!
The difference is

A. The cops and stewards stepped in.

B. There will be serious repercussions
Seems some of them were even fighting among themselves....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fans-facing-bans-as-trouble-erupts-in-the-stands-and-outside-aviva-stadium-at-fai-cup-final-42141448.html

Headlines yesterday. Leinster Council awaiting referees report.

Headline today. Fans already banned.

Nobody is arguing that loons go to sport. The isduw is one sport deals with it. One doesn't.
So your taking 'some fans may face bans' as 'fans already banned'
Yep, the guards and stewards took the time to get the name of all the scum that were thrown out of the aviva, and the scum were polite enough to comply with names and addresses. 😝

But they were at least thrown out...

There was also trouble outside the stadium beforehand too

Public Order Unit were on standby,which you would never see at any GAA game

The argument the soccer heads are making, and it has validity, is both the GAA and soccer have a problem. It may manifest slightly differently but the problems exist.

Soccer takes it far more seriously in terms of reaction to and attempting to stop their problems. The GAA don't. The soccer lads problem is that the media and politicians jump all over their incidents and demand action, wheras the GAA just carry on. The GAA factuon that dismissed violence as handbags and part of the culture simply doesn't exist in soccer.

Admittedly what happened in Parnell Park has done that, but it was the most extreme crowd trouble in a while in any code due to the hurl being used and the complete lack of any response from stewards and guards.

Second year in a row that the FAI Cup finals has had scenes like these near the Aviva?
If they are taking it seriously, what action did the FAI take this year to try and stop a repeat?

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648

I'm not sure what the FAI can do here....

The Derry fans were in a pub with some Gardai hanging about, as per. Another group of Guards escorted a march of the Shels pups past them. Some wires definitely seem to have gotten crossed

rodney trotter

#252
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 05:15:20 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 14, 2022, 03:44:01 PM
I don't know why LOI fans consistently attack GAA when they have their own much worse violence issues.

Plus lots of people support LOI and GAA.

Is it worse though?

It is worse in the LOI. There is pre match rows with fans thinking they are in Green Street or Football Factory. Every week in the LOI flares are being used and clubs being fined.

Shelbourne fans were rowing among themselves by the end of it   https://t.co/w1HmZwUbJG

rodney trotter

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 14, 2022, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I hear the soccerball "supporters" were at it in Dublin today!
The difference is

A. The cops and stewards stepped in.

B. There will be serious repercussions
Seems some of them were even fighting among themselves....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fans-facing-bans-as-trouble-erupts-in-the-stands-and-outside-aviva-stadium-at-fai-cup-final-42141448.html

Headlines yesterday. Leinster Council awaiting referees report.

Headline today. Fans already banned.

Nobody is arguing that loons go to sport. The isduw is one sport deals with it. One doesn't.
So your taking 'some fans may face bans' as 'fans already banned'
Yep, the guards and stewards took the time to get the name of all the scum that were thrown out of the aviva, and the scum were polite enough to comply with names and addresses. 😝

But they were at least thrown out...

There was also trouble outside the stadium beforehand too

Public Order Unit were on standby,which you would never see at any GAA game

The argument the soccer heads are making, and it has validity, is both the GAA and soccer have a problem. It may manifest slightly differently but the problems exist.

Soccer takes it far more seriously in terms of reaction to and attempting to stop their problems. The GAA don't. The soccer lads problem is that the media and politicians jump all over their incidents and demand action, wheras the GAA just carry on. The GAA factuon that dismissed violence as handbags and part of the culture simply doesn't exist in soccer.

Admittedly what happened in Parnell Park has done that, but it was the most extreme crowd trouble in a while in any code due to the hurl being used and the complete lack of any response from stewards and guards.

Second year in a row that the FAI Cup finals has had scenes like these near the Aviva?
If they are taking it seriously, what action did the FAI take this year to try and stop a repeat?

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648

I'm not sure what the FAI can do here....

The Derry fans were in a pub with some Gardai hanging about, as per. Another group of Guards escorted a march of the Shels pups past them. Some wires definitely seem to have gotten crossed

And why would there be such tension before a game?. Donegal fans being escorted past Kerry fans doesn't result in a row.

The Gaa supporters obviously get worked up too, but that is in game related. Some of the LOI fans are just looking for a row regardless




clonadmad

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on November 14, 2022, 03:00:55 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2022, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 14, 2022, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: Hound on November 14, 2022, 08:36:48 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2022, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on November 13, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
I hear the soccerball "supporters" were at it in Dublin today!
The difference is

A. The cops and stewards stepped in.

B. There will be serious repercussions
Seems some of them were even fighting among themselves....

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/fans-facing-bans-as-trouble-erupts-in-the-stands-and-outside-aviva-stadium-at-fai-cup-final-42141448.html

Headlines yesterday. Leinster Council awaiting referees report.

Headline today. Fans already banned.

Nobody is arguing that loons go to sport. The isduw is one sport deals with it. One doesn't.
So your taking 'some fans may face bans' as 'fans already banned'
Yep, the guards and stewards took the time to get the name of all the scum that were thrown out of the aviva, and the scum were polite enough to comply with names and addresses. 😝

But they were at least thrown out...

There was also trouble outside the stadium beforehand too

Public Order Unit were on standby,which you would never see at any GAA game

The argument the soccer heads are making, and it has validity, is both the GAA and soccer have a problem. It may manifest slightly differently but the problems exist.

Soccer takes it far more seriously in terms of reaction to and attempting to stop their problems. The GAA don't. The soccer lads problem is that the media and politicians jump all over their incidents and demand action, wheras the GAA just carry on. The GAA factuon that dismissed violence as handbags and part of the culture simply doesn't exist in soccer.

Admittedly what happened in Parnell Park has done that, but it was the most extreme crowd trouble in a while in any code due to the hurl being used and the complete lack of any response from stewards and guards.

Second year in a row that the FAI Cup finals has had scenes like these near the Aviva?
If they are taking it seriously, what action did the FAI take this year to try and stop a repeat?

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1591792542974107648

I'm not sure what the FAI can do here....

The Derry fans were in a pub with some Gardai hanging about, as per. Another group of Guards escorted a march of the Shels pups past them. Some wires definitely seem to have gotten crossed

So it's the fault of the Gardai ?

How about the LOI fans behave like fans of every other sport in this country without playing pretend hooligans