Club Hurling 2023

Started by Saffrongael, October 01, 2023, 05:50:49 PM

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NorthAntrim

Quote from: Oso on December 18, 2023, 05:34:17 PMMcAteer did start well and was definitely a loss, has a physical presence also. McQuillan was largely anonymous apart from his point though he was very unlucky with the effort that hit the post.  Campbell and Burke are both defenders, shouldnt have to rely on them time and time again to contribute regularly on the scoresheet....that highlights a deficit in the rest of the forwards. No one scores relatively heavily regularly apart from McManus although McLaughlin is showing excellent promise.

Let's not forget that if OLGs had taken their goal chances and the points they missed they could have been out of sight. It was Cushendall's blistering start in the first 10 minutes that kept them in the game to the end 1-4 to 0-0 up. After that they actually never looked like getting enough scores to win the game and although OLG didn't hit the front until about 10 minutes from time they carved Cushendall open time after time and were woefully wasteful in front of goal.

Yes campbell and burke are on paper defenders. They attck from deep and are capable of long range scores. Do it for both antrim and cushendall. id have that down as one of cushendalls strengths. In a team if your free taker is nailing a high percentage + a few from play and every other forward and midfielder is chipping in from play you're in a good place. Cushendall have the capability of that

Zooming around

Quote from: seafoid on December 19, 2023, 08:37:20 AMThe latest iteration of Ballyhale in the all Ireland started in 2014 . A decade ago. Man Utd couldn't stay at the top level without falling back. The All Black's couldn't
  Barcelona couldn't.  Ballyhale will also struggle. And with all due respect 4 Kilkenny county players doesn't mean what it used to.

Dara Mason, Killian Corcoran, Darragh Corcoran, Evan Shefflin, Patrick Mullen, Adrian Mullen, Eoin Kenneally, Niall Shortall and Eoin Cody were all only chaps in 2014. The Shamrocks are a great club in that they keep rolling out outstanding hurlers.
Teams like Birr and Portumna won their titles with one team. The Shamrocks have won their titles over 40 years with many different teams.

seafoid

The Shamrocks had 3 teams really-:
1980s, 00s and 2015-recently. Some club.

Cork clubs dominated this competition from its inception but are way off the mark now.


Oso

Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 19, 2023, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: Oso on December 18, 2023, 05:34:17 PMMcAteer did start well and was definitely a loss, has a physical presence also. McQuillan was largely anonymous apart from his point though he was very unlucky with the effort that hit the post.  Campbell and Burke are both defenders, shouldnt have to rely on them time and time again to contribute regularly on the scoresheet....that highlights a deficit in the rest of the forwards. No one scores relatively heavily regularly apart from McManus although McLaughlin is showing excellent promise.

Let's not forget that if OLGs had taken their goal chances and the points they missed they could have been out of sight. It was Cushendall's blistering start in the first 10 minutes that kept them in the game to the end 1-4 to 0-0 up. After that they actually never looked like getting enough scores to win the game and although OLG didn't hit the front until about 10 minutes from time they carved Cushendall open time after time and were woefully wasteful in front of goal.

Yes campbell and burke are on paper defenders. They attck from deep and are capable of long range scores. Do it for both antrim and cushendall. id have that down as one of cushendalls strengths. In a team if your free taker is nailing a high percentage + a few from play and every other forward and midfielder is chipping in from play you're in a good place. Cushendall have the capability of that

We'll agree to disagree, they're modern day defenders, not expections to the rule on that front.  But.... When push came to shove on Sunday cushendall weren't able to take the scores as I predicted....  and the two guys we are talking about coming up from defence weren't able to land long range efforts into the wind. 

NorthAntrim

Quote from: Oso on December 19, 2023, 03:50:30 PM
Quote from: NorthAntrim on December 19, 2023, 09:51:26 AM
Quote from: Oso on December 18, 2023, 05:34:17 PMMcAteer did start well and was definitely a loss, has a physical presence also. McQuillan was largely anonymous apart from his point though he was very unlucky with the effort that hit the post.  Campbell and Burke are both defenders, shouldnt have to rely on them time and time again to contribute regularly on the scoresheet....that highlights a deficit in the rest of the forwards. No one scores relatively heavily regularly apart from McManus although McLaughlin is showing excellent promise.

Let's not forget that if OLGs had taken their goal chances and the points they missed they could have been out of sight. It was Cushendall's blistering start in the first 10 minutes that kept them in the game to the end 1-4 to 0-0 up. After that they actually never looked like getting enough scores to win the game and although OLG didn't hit the front until about 10 minutes from time they carved Cushendall open time after time and were woefully wasteful in front of goal.

Yes campbell and burke are on paper defenders. They attck from deep and are capable of long range scores. Do it for both antrim and cushendall. id have that down as one of cushendalls strengths. In a team if your free taker is nailing a high percentage + a few from play and every other forward and midfielder is chipping in from play you're in a good place. Cushendall have the capability of that

We'll agree to disagree, they're modern day defenders, not expections to the rule on that front.  But.... When push came to shove on Sunday cushendall weren't able to take the scores as I predicted....  and the two guys we are talking about coming up from defence weren't able to land long range efforts into the wind. 

Fair enough. Campbells effort was probably too far out. Burke was under pressure, didnt look at the posts had a guess and got it horribly wrong. He was disgusted with his effort. Think they have a good balance though. McCurry in midfield set up a lot of scores. Winning dirty ball and giving it to the runners off the shoulder.

seafoid

There is no shame in :-*  losing a tight match.Getting to a final followed by a narrow semifinal loss is a sign of the standard in the county.  Next year could be the year an Antrim team does it. It all depends on what work is done in the next 12 months.

"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses - behind the lines, in the gym, and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights.
"Muhammad Ali

johnnycool

The gaels more efficient in the shooting stakes, how they weren't awarded that goal I'll never know...
Thomas's still in this though.

Looks like a terrible day down in Dublin by the state of the lads at half time

Saffrongael

Quote from: johnnycool on January 21, 2024, 02:18:22 PMThe gaels more efficient in the shooting stakes, how they weren't awarded that goal I'll never know...
Thomas's still in this though.

Looks like a terrible day down in Dublin by the state of the lads at half time

Yeah and worse for the football I'm guessing, think I saw the Gardai had a warning for people not to travel today - doesn't apply to asking fans to travel to games though. No consideration of supporters travelling back home in the middle of a Red weather warning
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Armagh18

Quote from: Saffrongael on January 21, 2024, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on January 21, 2024, 02:18:22 PMThe gaels more efficient in the shooting stakes, how they weren't awarded that goal I'll never know...
Thomas's still in this though.

Looks like a terrible day down in Dublin by the state of the lads at half time

Yeah and worse for the football I'm guessing, think I saw the Gardai had a warning for people not to travel today - doesn't apply to asking fans to travel to games though. No consideration of supporters travelling back home in the middle of a Red weather warning 
Sure tickets will be bought already so what do the GAA care

Blowitupref

Didn't seem to be much in that for a red card?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

5times5times

Quote from: Blowitupref on January 21, 2024, 02:24:09 PMDidn't seem to be much in that for a red card?

Don't be an idiot. You can tell right away by the offending players reaction.

LC


Blowitupref

Quote from: 5times5times on January 21, 2024, 02:26:27 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on January 21, 2024, 02:24:09 PMDidn't seem to be much in that for a red card?

Don't be an idiot. You can tell right away by the offending players reaction.

His reaction was of surprise he must be an idiot also?
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

johnnycool

Conor Cooney giving Lawlor his fill of it..
Game on

Blowitupref

Scores hard got shooting into Canal End today.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose